To have kids or not to? Your opinion from economy perspective

[reefsea]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

I firmly believe that children are blessings from God. Despite financial struggles, many parents lives are transformed for the better by their kids. I don't see anything more unique than being a parent. To be honest, having children brings me the most joy in the world. I understand that having children can be challenging, particularly when one is struggling financially, because you have to provide for their basic needs and education, but it does not discourage me from not having kids, i will do everything possible to be a good parent. Some people may not be suited to have children due to their irresponsible behavior, as every child needs care, support, and guidance from their parents.

Although from a spiritual perspective it is always said that children are a blessing from God, but in the end we must realize that nowadays we also have to be realistic in responding to things.

When we are still preoccupied with financial conditions that are still inadequate, there is nothing wrong with delaying until we can really be sure that we can be responsible for our child's life later.
This does not mean that we are not grateful for what God has given but we also have to be responsible afterwards, not only because we are focused on the words “blessings from God”, we do not prepare carefully because after all, children can be said to be a blessing if we are able to be responsible and support them properly but it will be a different story when our conditions are still not able to do this but force us to have children then it will only torture ourselves and our own children in the end.

[ImGenius]

What about you?

If your child is a human being and does not have any material support, you will feel happy. And if you have a mountain of wealth and your child is not a human being, the happiness of that wealth will be buried in the dust in an instant. Don't think that I am writing to teach you. No, not for that; but to think, to think deeply, of course.

What we want in life - that is our choice. Do we want a beautiful, happy and comfortable family life, or do we want another life full of financial luxury and splendor, burned in the fire of unrest?

So is there no need for wealth in life! Of course there is. Even more important is to transform your child into wealth. To protect your acquired wealth, it is also important to transform your child into wealth.

[dunfida]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

I firmly believe that children are blessings from God. Despite financial struggles, many parents lives are transformed for the better by their kids. I don't see anything more unique than being a parent. To be honest, having children brings me the most joy in the world. I understand that having children can be challenging, particularly when one is struggling financially, because you have to provide for their basic needs and education, but it does not discourage me from not having kids, i will do everything possible to be a good parent. Some people may not be suited to have children due to their irresponsible behavior, as every child needs care, support, and guidance from their parents.

It’s true that raising kids brings both joy and pressure and while financial stability is important it’s not the only thing that defines a good parent. money helps to provide comfort and opportunity but love patience and presence shape a child’s growth far more deeply than wealth ever could. A home full of care even with little money can nurture confidence and happiness in a child.

Still, it’s also fair to say that bringing a child into the world is a huge responsibility. when someone isn’t prepared emotionally or financially it can easily turn into stress and conflict. that’s why timing matters, not because children are a burden, but because they deserve stability and guidance from parents who can manage both their own lives and their children’s future. There are people who started from almost nothing but their kids became their motivation to work harder and improve their situation. sometimes that push is what turns struggle into success. life changes completely once you have children; it demands sacrifice, balance, and growth, and it often brings out the best version of a person who is ready to step up.

[tsaroz]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

Talking in economic perspective, This moment at present has the highest number of youth population than it ever was so its tough out there fighting for a good job, getting a place to live and sustain a child's costs. Naturally people see their suffering and don't want their kids to go through it. But what we also should consider is a lot of these young people are deciding to have no kids or just one. It may seem a good idea now but it won't sustain our population growth. By the time this year born kids reaches the active age, there would already a scarcity of manpower. Just like in the past, having more number of kids now would be an assets than liability.
But people don't think in economic way anymore, they want to be happy and care free now. Having no kids lessens their responsibility and their little salary would be enough for them to rent a room eat and drink everyday.

[HONDACD125]

Although from a spiritual perspective it is always said that children are a blessing from God, but in the end we must realize that nowadays we also have to be realistic in responding to things.

When we are still preoccupied with financial conditions that are still inadequate, there is nothing wrong with delaying until we can really be sure that we can be responsible for our child's life later.
This does not mean that we are not grateful for what God has given but we also have to be responsible afterwards, not only because we are focused on the words “blessings from God”, we do not prepare carefully because after all, children can be said to be a blessing if we are able to be responsible and support them properly but it will be a different story when our conditions are still not able to do this but force us to have children then it will only torture ourselves and our own children in the end.

I totally agree with this. It's true that children are blessings for their parents, and only those who are lucky get to have this blessing and their importance can be asked from the parents who aren't able to have children of their own for medical reasons, because adopting will give you a child, but the feeling that you will have from your own can't be matched. That being said, a human being, especially a man, has to think rationally about things because they are the ones who will need to provide for the family. So, when you think of getting your family extended, you need to make sure that you are capable enough of taking care of the whole family that will now become bigger.

If you don't have a stable income, struggling to eat proper meals yourself with your spouse, then planning a child in this situation is nothing but foolishness because you can clearly see that you are not in the condition to take good care of the child, then you shouldn't plan it in the first place. If you believe that your destiny might change after your child comes in this world, then remember that something like that doesn't happen to everyone.

[Localhostspeed]

I firmly believe that children are blessings from God. Despite financial struggles, many parents lives are transformed for the better by their kids. I don't see anything more unique than being a parent. To be honest, having children brings me the most joy in the world. I understand that having children can be challenging, particularly when one is struggling financially, because you have to provide for their basic needs and education, but it does not discourage me from not having kids, i will do everything possible to be a good parent. Some people may not be suited to have children due to their irresponsible behavior, as every child needs care, support, and guidance from their parents.

What blessings exactly are you talking about? Children doesn't brings blessing, let's get that straight. You know why elderly people do say children brings blessings, thats because you tend to care more when you have an offspring to take care off, you become more of responsible person than you have ever become, you spend money save up more than you have always been doing before especially if you don't save money and then people begin to see that on you as blessings which is nothing but shift of responsibility.

I don't see anything bad in having a kid and I don't see anything wrong either in not wanting a child, it's your choice, you do what makes you happy. However, if you don't want to have a kids, I don't believe such people have the right to adopt one unless you don't have what it takes to produce one.

[Mahanton]

I firmly believe that children are blessings from God. Despite financial struggles, many parents lives are transformed for the better by their kids. I don't see anything more unique than being a parent. To be honest, having children brings me the most joy in the world. I understand that having children can be challenging, particularly when one is struggling financially, because you have to provide for their basic needs and education, but it does not discourage me from not having kids, i will do everything possible to be a good parent. Some people may not be suited to have children due to their irresponsible behavior, as every child needs care, support, and guidance from their parents.

What blessings exactly are you talking about? Children doesn't brings blessing, let's get that straight. You know why elderly people do say children brings blessings, thats because you tend to care more when you have an offspring to take care off, you become more of responsible person than you have ever become, you spend money save up more than you have always been doing before especially if you don't save money and then people begin to see that on you as blessings which is nothing but shift of responsibility.

I don't see anything bad in having a kid and I don't see anything wrong either in not wanting a child, it's your choice, you do what makes you happy. However, if you don't want to have a kids, I don't believe such people have the right to adopt one unless you don't have what it takes to produce one.

Children are often called blessings not because they magically change a person’s life but because they push people to grow up in ways they never expected. when you have a child your priorities shift your view of life expands and suddenly you start caring about things that never used to matter. that responsibility brings a new kind of discipline and sometimes that’s what people interpret as blessings because it changes your mindset and your sense of purpose. For many parents it’s not about wealth or status it’s about the emotional fulfillment that comes from nurturing another life. even when the struggles are heavy there’s a sense of meaning that comes with knowing someone depends entirely on you. that alone makes people stronger more patient and sometimes more successful because they now have a reason to keep pushing forward.

But it’s also true that not everyone wants or is ready for that responsibility and that’s fine. having children isn’t a moral obligation it’s a choice. some people live fulfilled lives without kids and still contribute greatly to society. what matters is honesty with oneself—whether or not you truly want to raise a child and can commit to it fully. As for adoption it’s not just for those who can’t have kids biologically. some people choose adoption because they want to give a child a better life and that too is a noble choice. what’s most important is the ability to love care and provide stability. whether the child is biological or adopted the blessing comes from the act of giving love not from the label of being a parent.

[libert19]

Ayy, thx for bumping the post. We're back in the roll, I find responses in this thread entertaining.

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If your child is a human being and does not have any material support, you will feel happy.

Wat?

And if you have a mountain of wealth and your child is not a human being, the happiness of that wealth will be buried in the dust in an instant. Don't think that I am writing to teach you. No, not for that; but to think, to think deeply, of course.

Certainly have kids, if you have means to.

What we want in life - that is our choice. Do we want a beautiful, happy and comfortable family life, or do we want another life full of financial luxury and splendor, burned in the fire of unrest?

It depends on individual, I am not fan of family life and I would not bottle down my living into luxury, splendor either, and what unrest are you talking about?

So is there no need for wealth in life! Of course there is. Even more important is to transform your child into wealth. To protect your acquired wealth, it is also important to transform your child into wealth.

Without having material resources, it makes it hard to transform your kid into 'wealth'.

I totally agree with this. It's true that children are blessings for their parents, and only those who are lucky get to have this blessing and their importance can be asked from the parents who aren't able to have children of their own for medical reasons...

I don't call it, 'lucky' to have children, majority of people can have 'em without fuss — I mean look at population, and there are also methods like ivf.

[BigBos]

I firmly believe that children are blessings from God. Despite financial struggles, many parents lives are transformed for the better by their kids. I don't see anything more unique than being a parent. To be honest, having children brings me the most joy in the world. I understand that having children can be challenging, particularly when one is struggling financially, because you have to provide for their basic needs and education, but it does not discourage me from not having kids, i will do everything possible to be a good parent. Some people may not be suited to have children due to their irresponsible behavior, as every child needs care, support, and guidance from their parents.

Although from a spiritual perspective it is always said that children are a blessing from God, but in the end we must realize that nowadays we also have to be realistic in responding to things.

When we are still preoccupied with financial conditions that are still inadequate, there is nothing wrong with delaying until we can really be sure that we can be responsible for our child's life later.
This does not mean that we are not grateful for what God has given but we also have to be responsible afterwards, not only because we are focused on the words “blessings from God”, we do not prepare carefully because after all, children can be said to be a blessing if we are able to be responsible and support them properly but it will be a different story when our conditions are still not able to do this but force us to have children then it will only torture ourselves and our own children in the end.

The important point is that we must be realistic, and I agree with you. This isn't to reject God's grace, but we must also prepare for it all. After all, we have to be responsible, right? From food, shelter, clothing, and so on.

I personally don't want to be a criminal to my own child. What I mean is, if we might not be ready for all of that, we can minimize it by not entering. Unless, for example, our economy is doing well and we have children, and then our situation turns sour, that would be a different story.

[Sexylizzy2813]

I know some persons right from day one they don't like kids and they find it hard to be around children but that shouldn't be a reason for others not to have kids, children are a blessing from God and we shouldn't use because of how difficult the economy is to stop having children. I think this is not about the hardship of the economy, is mainly because of fear that's why maybe for the OP and some other persons and we do forget there are some children that immediately they find their way in any family things will turn out for good, is good to have children but you should know when to stop producing depending on how much you have but it should be a factor to stop having children.

[kasablings]

It all depends on the individual, everyone has there own perspective about life and how they see it.there are people who don't have money from were am from but they keep on given birth to children they can not take care off,hoping those children will survive and grow older to take care of them no matter how bad the economy.but if you are civil enough to no the kind off life you want for your self and the children you are giving birth too,that is when you start been calculative about your income and the economy.

[Webutxo]

I know some persons right from day one they don't like kids and they find it hard to be around children but that shouldn't be a reason for others not to have kids, children are a blessing from God and we shouldn't use because of how difficult the economy is to stop having children. I think this is not about the hardship of the economy, is mainly because of fear that's why maybe for the OP and some other persons and we do forget there are some children that immediately they find their way in any family things will turn out for good, is good to have children but you should know when to stop producing depending on how much you have but it should be a factor to stop having children.

Such people that doesn't like kids are acting that way because of how they are but isn't like they don't want to be around kids. Some could be there experience, me as an example I don't like babies that teething because they cry alot during that period, if you are not the type that tolerate alot that time, it will make you want to fling them away because tell me why a baby will just he crying for no reason but if you know problems of infants, you will understand them better.

Some people don't like babies when they are younger, they do feel like they might over pressed them because of their body but it does not make them not want to have babies. I feel everyone in their life deserve to experience having their own child, it makes you care more and have your family.

[Oneandpure]

I know some persons right from day one they don't like kids and they find it hard to be around children but that shouldn't be a reason for others not to have kids, children are a blessing from God and we shouldn't use because of how difficult the economy is to stop having children. I think this is not about the hardship of the economy, is mainly because of fear that's why maybe for the OP and some other persons and we do forget there are some children that immediately they find their way in any family things will turn out for good, is good to have children but you should know when to stop producing depending on how much you have but it should be a factor to stop having children.

Some person won't have kid because their financial still not stable yet exactly for the new bride have to manage well with financial condition spent out much for having house. Most of them will prioritizing decent housing for his kid one day later and not planning as soon as to have kid after marriage. Nowadays in my environment looks funny, some one with difficult financial condition can't stopping have kid not enough for one kid but also easily for them having three until five kids with short period moment.
I can't imagine with small salary payment how to manage well if have three until five kid exactly most of them need much money for school cost until healthy cost. It must be normalized that if you want to have more than two or three children, you must at least have financial stability and be able to provide them with a decent education and housing. If can't guarantee all it better without having kid or have one kid more enough to control well with current financial condition.

[icebar]

It all depends on the individual, everyone has there own perspective about life and how they see it.there are people who don't have money from were am from but they keep on given birth to children they can not take care off,hoping those children will survive and grow older to take care of them no matter how bad the economy.but if you are civil enough to no the kind off life you want for your self and the children you are giving birth too,that is when you start been calculative about your income and the economy.

Generally, if a person has financial solvency, then I think it is definitely necessary for him to adopt a child. Nowadays, there is a trend among people that they think that raising a child requires a lot of money, but in fact it is not. Here, I think a positive response is most important. Those who have limited income can also adopt a child. It should be done by having a good understanding with the husband and wife. If there is no such difficulty, then definitely having a child is very necessary. It plays a very important role in strengthening the family relationship.

[coupable]

I don't see anything bad in having a kid and I don't see anything wrong either in not wanting a child, it's your choice, you do what makes you happy. However, if you don't want to have a kids, I don't believe such people have the right to adopt one unless you don't have what it takes to produce one.

There are many people arround the globe who don't care about spreading their genes into future generations. A worldwide movement called "Anti-Natalism", which goal is to establish a community for anti-natalist people. I frequently visit social media groups about them and it's clear how many people having the same ideology. There is already a sub in reddit for people who want to find a partner for marriage without having children.

[Sexylizzy2813]

I know some persons right from day one they don't like kids and they find it hard to be around children but that shouldn't be a reason for others not to have kids, children are a blessing from God and we shouldn't use because of how difficult the economy is to stop having children. I think this is not about the hardship of the economy, is mainly because of fear that's why maybe for the OP and some other persons and we do forget there are some children that immediately they find their way in any family things will turn out for good, is good to have children but you should know when to stop producing depending on how much you have but it should be a factor to stop having children.

Such people that doesn't like kids are acting that way because of how they are but isn't like they don't want to be around kids. Some could be there experience, me as an example I don't like babies that teething because they cry alot during that period, if you are not the type that tolerate alot that time, it will make you want to fling them away because tell me why a baby will just he crying for no reason but if you know problems of infants, you will understand them better.

Some people don't like babies when they are younger, they do feel like they might over pressed them because of their body but it does not make them not want to have babies. I feel everyone in their life deserve to experience having their own child, it makes you care more and have your family.

Now you sound like you came out as an adult, we all went through those stages and you can't say that's the reason why you don't like babies, there's more to what you said. If you tell me that they are too fragile that you're scared of holding them at that period it will be understandable it happened to me but using that growing of teeth as an excuse isn't something I can agree on, you as a human went through that stage and you should ask those who took good care of you how they felt, after hearing all what they went through to calm you down you'd change your perspective about children, you'd love them no matter what.
No matter how small a baby is taking care of them teaches you how to be careful and also how to take care of them when they're in need of something, you'd have to understand their language even when you find it hard to communicate with them. I see those who don't like babies as selfish individuals because they only think of themselves than others that's why having a baby around is lie a big borden.

[philipma1957]

What title says,

unless one is well off himself one should not be having kids, this is my opinion.

What about you?

Well interesting

first off do I own a farm

if I do having kids makes sense.

Do I live in a first world city making kids makes less sense unless I am an earner.

Also I will be very blunt I am a guy my risk of death by fucking and sucking the same woman (wife) is way smaller for me then her if we try to make kids.

Women die making kids. So if You are married and your wife is good to you and you are good to her you both have to calculate the downside of kids.

her health goes to risk.

and your good sex life goes to risk as does hers.

so the decision to make a kid or two or three or more is not so easy.

I am 68 I remember a world with only 2.5 billion people this world has 8 billion people so I know the world work with far less people since I watch the word AND LIVED IN IT BACK THEN.

My wife and I lost all our kids to miscarriages and we are 68 and 69  so kids are not in the picture.

If can be a good life with out the kids as our life is good.

But if I were 30 and she were 30 I know we would try again to have some kids.

[libert19]

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Such people that doesn't like kids are acting that way because of how they are but isn't like they don't want to be around kids. Some could be there experience, me as an example I don't like babies that teething because they cry alot during that period, if you are not the type that tolerate alot that time, it will make you want to fling them away because tell me why a baby will just he crying for no reason but if you know problems of infants, you will understand them better.

That's true for me, aside from what I said earlier in topic and comments, I can't tolerate anybody else's presence around me whether it be kids or grown ups, it's just how my brain is (or conditioned this way) and I live by it's whims.

There are many people arround the globe who don't care about spreading their genes into future generations. A worldwide movement called "Anti-Natalism", which goal is to establish a community for anti-natalist people. I frequently visit social media groups about them and it's clear how many people having the same ideology.

Yo, this is the first time I think anybody has mentioned antinatalism here. I visit r/antinatalism regularly, sometimes there are good reasons given why one shouldn't be having kids.

... I see those who don't like babies as selfish individuals because they only think of themselves than others that's why having a baby around is lie a big borden.

I am offended. I don't see how it's selfish when if you decide to not have a kid, it harms none, and kids are spared from death as well; people call, 'gift of life', but I always saw it as, more like, 'gift of death' — may be I am a pessimist, or may be a realist because what I said is factual, no?

[coupable]

There are many people arround the globe who don't care about spreading their genes into future generations. A worldwide movement called "Anti-Natalism", which goal is to establish a community for anti-natalist people. I frequently visit social media groups about them and it's clear how many people having the same ideology.

Yo, this is the first time I think anybody has mentioned antinatalism here. I visit r/antinatalism regularly, sometimes there are good reasons given why one shouldn't be having kids.
 

Unfortunately, despite the big number of people who adopt the anti-natalist philosophy, their ideas do not find much resonance. What you see as good reasons is what made this doctrine worth following. In Reddit, the sub became a space for those people to know each other and get into real life relation.

Note that when we say anti-natalist people we mean those who don't want to have children, not those who gave birth in the past and don't want to have kids anymore.

[junder]

Generally, if a person has financial solvency, then I think it is definitely necessary for him to adopt a child. Nowadays, there is a trend among people that they think that raising a child requires a lot of money, but in fact it is not. Here, I think a positive response is most important. Those who have limited income can also adopt a child. It should be done by having a good understanding with the husband and wife. If there is no such difficulty, then definitely having a child is very necessary. It plays a very important role in strengthening the family relationship.

I agree with having children to strengthen family ties. Yes, if a couple has financial stability, even more than enough, but is having difficulty conceiving children, adoption might be the way to go. However, there are also families with financial stability and children, but they are busy with their respective careers, which means the children rarely get time with their parents. This is something to be wary of.
Considering that everyone's economic circumstances are different, sometimes a man isn't ready to marry because his finances aren't yet stable. But what about what others say about marriage opening the door to prosperity? Do you believe that?