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 This is a fight boxing fans should not miss, as two fighters who have proven themselves and become kings in their respective divisions now clash for recognition and the WBC Super Welterweight Championship. So, who do you have for this fight? Let's vote and have a discussion. Sebastian Fundora and Keith Thurman have a deal in place to meet for the WBC junior middleweight title on Oct. 25 at Las Vegas’ MGM Grand Garden Arena, a source told The Ring on Thursday.
The 154-pound bout for Fundora's belt will headline a PBC on Prime PPV. Sebastian Fundora-Keith Thurman WBC 154-Pound Title Fight Set For Oct. 25
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August 21, 2025, 04:22:09 PM |
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Fundora was awesome in his last match against Tszyu. Tim Tszyu has no answer to Fundora’s attack; he fully utilises his weight and reach advantages, and he even controlled the game when they were close. Fundora looked invincible in that match if he shows the same performance as he did against Tszyu; Thurman is in big trouble.
Thurman's last fight was against Barrios on February 5, 2022, over three years ago. This is concerning, especially since Fundora is still recovering from his dominant victory against Tszyu. As a result, Thurman is likely to face ring rust come fight night. I’ll have Fundora winning by unanimous decision or by knockout.
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August 22, 2025, 05:18:00 PM |
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Thurman's last fight was against Barrios on February 5, 2022, over three years ago. This is concerning, especially since Fundora is still recovering from his dominant victory against Tszyu. As a result, Thurman is likely to face ring rust come fight night. I’ll have Fundora winning by unanimous decision or by knockout.
Keith Thurman had a fight this year. He fought Brock Jarvis just this March and won via knockout in round 3. his fight with Jarvis was right after coming out of a 3-year layoff from boxing, so I think he'll be fine if he performed that well in his most recent fight.
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August 22, 2025, 05:53:29 PM |
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Thurman's last fight was against Barrios on February 5, 2022, over three years ago. This is concerning, especially since Fundora is still recovering from his dominant victory against Tszyu. As a result, Thurman is likely to face ring rust come fight night. I’ll have Fundora winning by unanimous decision or by knockout.
Keith Thurman had a fight this year. He fought Brock Jarvis just this March and won via knockout in round 3. his fight with Jarvis was right after coming out of a 3-year layoff from boxing, so I think he'll be fine if he performed that well in his most recent fight. Nah, I don't consider Brock a good test for Thurman. Maybe in paper Brock looks good with high knockout percentage, but outside of Australia? No one knows who Brock is. And probably that fight is a make or break for Keith. It's test for him if you could still fight or not, the good thing is that he was able to win that fight and so his career continues. But against Fundora, not sure if he can replicate his performance against the towering Sebastian. And against his performance against Tim Tsyzu, he should again that his first win is no fluke. Just to sad to see Tim going down this way. Fundora really took everything from him in the first fight and I don't see him becoming a great fighter like his father.
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August 23, 2025, 02:07:13 PM |
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... against Fundora, not sure if he can replicate his performance against the towering Sebastian.
And against his performance against Tim Tsyzu, he should again that his first win is no fluke. Just to sad to see Tim going down this way. Fundora really took everything from him in the first fight and I don't see him becoming a great fighter like his father.
Fundora learned a lot from his loss against Brian Mendoza. He now knows how to use his advantage to the fullest. I reviewed Fundora's last match against Tszyu. Fundora threw everything but the kitchen sink. He is relentless and never lets up Just check it out, this highlight: Fundora vs Tszyu 2 HIGHLIGHTS: July 19, 2025 | PBC PPV on Prime VideoThurman is in a big surprise because Fundora is like a punching machine; if he uses the same strategy, Thurman will have a tough night.
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... against Fundora, not sure if he can replicate his performance against the towering Sebastian.
And against his performance against Tim Tsyzu, he should again that his first win is no fluke. Just to sad to see Tim going down this way. Fundora really took everything from him in the first fight and I don't see him becoming a great fighter like his father.
Fundora learned a lot from his loss against Brian Mendoza. He now knows how to use his advantage to the fullest. I reviewed Fundora's last match against Tszyu. Fundora threw everything but the kitchen sink. He is relentless and never lets up Just check it out, this highlight: Fundora vs Tszyu 2 HIGHLIGHTS: July 19, 2025 | PBC PPV on Prime VideoThurman is in a big surprise because Fundora is like a punching machine; if he uses the same strategy, Thurman will have a tough night. It also proved that Fundora's past won are against the low caliber fighters. He been fighting boxers that aren't realy that good yet it boost his profile being a pro boxer and when encountering Tszyu and Mendoza, he suffered this loss. Now I'm sure if Thurman is that solid still but he grown old already which this could be a very one sided fight to once again boost Fundora. Fundora may win but probably not a KO win.
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Nah, I don't consider Brock a good test for Thurman. Maybe in paper Brock looks good with high knockout percentage, but outside of Australia? No one knows who Brock is. And probably that fight is a make or break for Keith. It's test for him if you could still fight or not, the good thing is that he was able to win that fight and so his career continues. But against Fundora, not sure if he can replicate his performance against the towering Sebastian.
And against his performance against Tim Tsyzu, he should again that his first win is no fluke. Just to sad to see Tim going down this way. Fundora really took everything from him in the first fight and I don't see him becoming a great fighter like his father.
I am not really familiar with Fundora. I can't really say how good he is, and how good Thurman will perform in his fight against him. Anyway, all I'm saying is, Thurman did perform well during his fight with Jarvis and shows that he isn't facing "ring rust" as coin-investor mentioned since Thurman was inactive for 3 years.
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August 23, 2025, 08:46:22 PM |
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I don’t really understand why PBC still insists on putting every fight on PPV. The UFC, WWE, and Riyadh Season have already ditched this archaic business model. Fundora isn’t some major star and Thurman fights once every 2–3 years.
Fundora avoided his mandatories against Xander Zayas and Vergil Ortiz, which tells you that promoters think of Thurman as a softer touch. I also do not have high expectations from the semi-retired Thurman.
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August 25, 2025, 11:16:04 AM |
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I don’t really understand why PBC still insists on putting every fight on PPV. The UFC, WWE, and Riyadh Season have already ditched this archaic business model. Fundora isn’t some major star and Thurman fights once every 2–3 years. They should eventually transition away from their PPV model and adopt the more popular approach to promoting fights, as this currently hinders the growth of their superstars. Fundora avoided his mandatories against Xander Zayas and Vergil Ortiz, which tells you that promoters think of Thurman as a softer touch. I also do not have high expectations from the semi-retired Thurman. Fundora tasted his first loss the hard way, and now that he is a champion again, he wants to be fully developed as a seasoned fighter. I still consider him raw against these tough fighters, Zayas and Ortiz. Thurman is a good deal; he is not as impressive as the two fighters. Fundora will learn a lot from this fight and will eventually have to face Zayas and Ortiz.
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August 25, 2025, 11:59:21 AM |
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... against Fundora, not sure if he can replicate his performance against the towering Sebastian.
And against his performance against Tim Tsyzu, he should again that his first win is no fluke. Just to sad to see Tim going down this way. Fundora really took everything from him in the first fight and I don't see him becoming a great fighter like his father.
Fundora learned a lot from his loss against Brian Mendoza. He now knows how to use his advantage to the fullest. I reviewed Fundora's last match against Tszyu. Fundora threw everything but the kitchen sink. He is relentless and never lets up Just check it out, this highlight: Fundora vs Tszyu 2 HIGHLIGHTS: July 19, 2025 | PBC PPV on Prime VideoThurman is in a big surprise because Fundora is like a punching machine; if he uses the same strategy, Thurman will have a tough night. It also proved that Fundora's past won are against the low caliber fighters. He been fighting boxers that aren't realy that good yet it boost his profile being a pro boxer and when encountering Tszyu and Mendoza, he suffered this loss. Now I'm sure if Thurman is that solid still but he grown old already which this could be a very one sided fight to once again boost Fundora. Fundora may win but probably not a KO win. He beat Tszyu twice already, his only lost is against Brian Mendoza who caught him up with that big punch and so he goes down hard and didn't recover. But after that he become a champion by being Tszyu is one of the most bloodiest fight I have ever witnessed. Others might want to check it out in Youtube. And I thought that Tszyu will win that fight as he was leading until the cut that changes that fight. And in the rematch, it looks like Tim is already out. But against a tough Thurman, let's see, this division is weak as far as I know and that's why Fundora remains as a champion. But if Thurman can still pull the trigger and has the power, then maybe he can knockout Thurman. But if the fight goes to a full 12 round, maybe Fundora's height might be his advantage here as Thurman is known to have faded if the fight goes longer that 8 rounds.
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Nah, I don't consider Brock a good test for Thurman. Maybe in paper Brock looks good with high knockout percentage, but outside of Australia? No one knows who Brock is. And probably that fight is a make or break for Keith. It's test for him if you could still fight or not, the good thing is that he was able to win that fight and so his career continues. But against Fundora, not sure if he can replicate his performance against the towering Sebastian.
And against his performance against Tim Tsyzu, he should again that his first win is no fluke. Just to sad to see Tim going down this way. Fundora really took everything from him in the first fight and I don't see him becoming a great fighter like his father.
I am not really familiar with Fundora. I can't really say how good he is, and how good Thurman will perform in his fight against him. Anyway, all I'm saying is, Thurman did perform well during his fight with Jarvis and shows that he isn't facing "ring rust" as coin-investor mentioned since Thurman was inactive for 3 years. We can look at the tale of the tape here - and have some insights on what can happen on their fight. Even if Thurman had a long hiatus in boxing, we can say, he still has some juice on this sports. And we will see this in the upcoming fight if indeed he has it despite of that inactivity period. Also, we can check the recent fights of both fighters and gauge their power inside the ring. They may have 9-year gap in age, but it is about how active you are in this sports. And Thurman wants a good comeback, hence, he is surely preparing for this one. Fundora vs Thurman
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I'm not underestimating Thurman, but it seems he'll be having a hard time winning this one however you look at the match. With his significant height and reach advantage, even Fundora's jabs alone are probably enough to outpoint Thurman and defeat him via UD.
And given Thurman's age and probably ring rust, which definitely affects his reflex and agility, it's certainly a big challenge for him to be able to get inside and hurt Fundora from within.
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I'm not underestimating Thurman, but it seems he'll be having a hard time winning this one however you look at the match. With his significant height and reach advantage, even Fundora's jabs alone are probably enough to outpoint Thurman and defeat him via UD.
And given Thurman's age and probably ring rust, which definitely affects his reflex and agility, it's certainly a big challenge for him to be able to get inside and hurt Fundora from within.
If Thurman comes into this fight in good condition, I think he can win because he’s a smart boxer. Fundora may have beaten Tszyu, but in that fight Tszyu didn’t really make the right adjustments, which shows he doesn’t have the same ring IQ. Thurman on the other hand only lost to Pacquiao, and that was a pretty controversial one in my opinion. I don’t care if he’s older, age is just a number, and Pacquiao already proved that in his fight against Barrios, and even though it ended in a draw, it was still a great fight.
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I'm not underestimating Thurman, but it seems he'll be having a hard time winning this one however you look at the match. With his significant height and reach advantage, even Fundora's jabs alone are probably enough to outpoint Thurman and defeat him via UD.
And given Thurman's age and probably ring rust, which definitely affects his reflex and agility, it's certainly a big challenge for him to be able to get inside and hurt Fundora from within.
If Thurman comes into this fight in good condition, I think he can win because he’s a smart boxer. Fundora may have beaten Tszyu, but in that fight Tszyu didn’t really make the right adjustments, which shows he doesn’t have the same ring IQ. Thurman on the other hand only lost to Pacquiao, and that was a pretty controversial one in my opinion. I don’t care if he’s older, age is just a number, and Pacquiao already proved that in his fight against Barrios, and even though it ended in a draw, it was still a great fight. I would have to agree with Darker45 here, the height and reach advantage of Fundora is going to be a big problem by Thurman. He really need to get closer to be able to hit Fundora with his power punches. But we have seen the Fundora has improved a lot against his lost to Brian Mendoza and has been using his jab more often now to keep distance and he uses this against Tim. And I would say that he also has power too. Although Thurman won his comeback fight, but maybe only a few of us here might be impressed with that because his opponent is not that well known.
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Although Thurman won his comeback fight, but maybe only a few of us here might be impressed with that because his opponent is not that well known.
Before his comeback, he actually beat Barrios who’s a well-known boxer. Fundora, on the other hand, isn’t really that established, he only got popular after beating Tszyu, so he hasn’t truly been tested against a real champion yet. Thurman hasn’t beaten a 6-footer before, but who knows, maybe he can pull it off and be like Canelo who loves taking down taller opponents. At the end of the day, it’s all about strategy and how he adjusts, because height and reach advantage don’t always guarantee a win against a shorter fighter.
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Although Thurman won his comeback fight, but maybe only a few of us here might be impressed with that because his opponent is not that well known.
Before his comeback, he actually beat Barrios who’s a well-known boxer. Fundora, on the other hand, isn’t really that established, he only got popular after beating Tszyu, so he hasn’t truly been tested against a real champion yet. No, Barrios wasn't well know that time, Barrios was also coming from a lost to Tank Davis, while Thurman was away from the ring for 30 months or so after his defeat on Pacquaio. And this is also Barrios moving up in Thurman's weight class. Thurman hasn’t beaten a 6-footer before, but who knows, maybe he can pull it off and be like Canelo who loves taking down taller opponents. At the end of the day, it’s all about strategy and how he adjusts, because height and reach advantage don’t always guarantee a win against a shorter fighter.
I do agree that he has a puncher's chance to beat Fundora, every one and maybe the scenario that you are saying might happen as it will be a big challenge for Thurman to beat that tall of a boxer. But he should still have the mental hunger just like before as he was a unified champion at 147 lbs but then moving up another weight class.
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I do agree that he has a puncher's chance to beat Fundora, every one and maybe the scenario that you are saying might happen as it will be a big challenge for Thurman to beat that tall of a boxer. But he should still have the mental hunger just like before as he was a unified champion at 147 lbs but then moving up another weight class.
If Thurman wins this fight, his name will be back in the spotlight for sure, and the Pacquiao rematch talks will explode again. I know a lot of fans still want that, especially since the first fight left plenty of controversy. Personally, I really want to see Thurman pull it off. Fundora is at the peak of his career right now, he’s the champ and already beat Tszyu twice, but that’s exactly why this win would mean so much more for Thurman. Imagine the storyline, beating the young champ and setting up one last big-money fight with Pacman. I’m rooting hard for Thurman here. He’s been counted out before, but if there’s one fight to bring him back, this is it.
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I’m rooting hard for Thurman here. He’s been counted out before, but if there’s one fight to bring him back, this is it.
Thurman can be considered to be the most rested boxer in history. He has months and years of gaps in many of his fights, but he can come out the winner. Fundora, fresh from a brutally punishing fight with Tszyu, faces a different battle, but we cannot count on Thurman; he has consistently proven himself after coming from a long rest. Of course, if Thurman wins this match, there's going to be a Pacquiao rematch. I consider Thurman the underdog in this fight, not because of his long rest, but more on Fundora's skills, height, and youth advantages.
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I consider Thurman the underdog in this fight, not because of his long rest, but more on Fundora's skills, height, and youth advantages.
Not sure if the odds are accurate, but looking at the numbers in the link, it feels like Fundora is overvalued. He’s listed at -750 while Thurman is at +470. https://www.proboxingodds.com/events/2025-10-26-2307With that kind of line, I’d be more tempted to take Thurman. Hard to resist that value knowing he’s still a quality fighter.
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