Is the US about to militarily attack Venezuela?

[paxmao]

During the last weeks, there is an accumulation of US ships - including some amphibious assault capable units near the coast of Venezuela. Is this a negotiating position or are we about to get yet anothe war of aggression?

[DubemIfedigbo001]

Us have deployed 3 amphibious assault vessels with over 2000 Marines to the Venezuelan border to join the missile destroyers already there on an excuse to repel drug trafficking from Venezuela to the US, this is because the US has branded Maduro, the Venezuelan president to be a drug Baron . I do not believe the excuse because the US Marines are not just an anti-narcotics police department.

Venezuelan president has responded by deploying lots of Militia forces friendly to it's government  as a response to the US buildup.

This surely is tension building up, it has not been explicitly spelt out, but it's obvious Trump is cooking something very hot for the Venezuelan government after placing a $50 million bounty on the head of it's president. This is surely beyond preventing drug trafficking.

[Xal0lex]

...after placing a $50 bounty on the head of it's president.

No one will lift a finger for $50. But for $50 million... 

[DubemIfedigbo001]

...after placing a $50 bounty on the head of it's president.

No one will lift a finger for $50. But for $50 million...  

It was a typo, I've corrected it, thanks

[Hispo]

I am from Venezuela. And it is pretty unlikely Trump will do something explicit against the regime of Maduro, honestly. There is much speculation going on here, but the truth those in power here (ilegitimately) will do anything within their power to stay untouched my justice and continue repress the people of the country while they build their empire of drug trafficking in the Caribbean and beyond.
If any one of you have questions about what is going on from the perspective of a Venezuelan civilian, I can try to reply any of your questions, as long as they are serious and not ill-intentioned.

[BADecker]

Is the US about to militarily attack Venezuela?


Let's hope so. Take it over, and make it a State of the United States, and get the oil, while freeing the people.

[pooya87]

Let me check how much oil Venezuela have .... hmm... highest oil reserves in the world! uh oh

are we about to get yet anothe war of aggression?

A better question is how desperate US regime is and more important than that which version of US military the Venezuelans believe in, the illusion or the reality?

What most people don't realize is how extremely vulnerable and fragile the US regime is...

 

This is a small example off the top of my head: The ultra fast Zolfaghar missile boats specifically designed to sink US naval units...

That's not to mention what Venezuela can and must do to legitimate targets inside US mainland (namely military base in Norfolk, Virginia where these silly little ships were supposedly deployed from) in retaliation to any form of aggression.

Of course it is up to the people of Venezuela whether they want to become Syria 2.0 where US regime removed the legitimate government an installed Takfiri terrorists there... or learn a lesson from what happened in the other continent which is exactly what is happening to their country!!!

[Alpha Marine]

If any one of you have questions about what is going on from the perspective of a Venezuelan civilian, I can try to reply any of your questions, as long as they are serious and not ill-intentioned.

What I really want to understand is whether this is just another excuse for the US to use and invade another country, where they have ulterior motives, or if the reason they say they're there is the actual reason they're there. Because I think they want a reason they can use to eliminate the president of a country and install the one they want and will favour them.

I am honestly confused because I haven't seen where the US deployed Marines against drug dealers. What happened to the agency created to fight drug trafficking?
I know they won't invade the country anyway, but by installing a leader they can be puppet masters to, there will be no need to invade, and that is what I think will happen, or I'm I reading the situation wrong?

[General_Bitcoin]

If any one of you have questions about what is going on from the perspective of a Venezuelan civilian, I can try to reply any of your questions, as long as they are serious and not ill-intentioned.

What I really want to understand is whether this is just another excuse for the US to use and invade another country, where they have ulterior motives, or if the reason they say they're there is the actual reason they're there. Because I think they want a reason they can use to eliminate the president of a country and install the one they want and will favour them.

I am honestly confused because I haven't seen where the US deployed Marines against drug dealers. What happened to the agency created to fight drug trafficking?
I know they won't invade the country anyway, but by installing a leader they can be puppet masters to, there will be no need to invade, and that is what I think will happen, or I'm I reading the situation wrong?

You have good point about this even I am not expecting anything going to happen because this will increase tension for the USA and also allow few other countries to invite China here which is already looking here with greedy eyes.

Agency which was supposed to be had end of drug dealers now taking their own share and working peacefully because agencies always have this path of working.

[caroasi]

Trump is aware he lost some support with his war against Yemen, and more support with his war against Iran. He can't continue to attack more countries and expect any support at all by the end of his term. The only people left would be the small fraction of people who are pro-war and don't even admit it generally speaking because they are well aware they are a minority of maybe 15% if that.

The bulk of problem base of our society could be described as excessive violence. People use violence to achieve unequal rights in a classed society of ruling and ruled classes. People use violence to get money and power at the formal organizational level, fully government sanctioned. Violence very often achieves the exact opposite of its intended effect, especially violence that is unjustified.

The best path to peace, is peace.

[Hispo]

If any one of you have questions about what is going on from the perspective of a Venezuelan civilian, I can try to reply any of your questions, as long as they are serious and not ill-intentioned.

What I really want to understand is whether this is just another excuse for the US to use and invade another country, where they have ulterior motives, or if the reason they say they're there is the actual reason they're there. Because I think they want a reason they can use to eliminate the president of a country and install the one they want and will favour them.

I am honestly confused because I haven't seen where the US deployed Marines against drug dealers. What happened to the agency created to fight drug trafficking?
I know they won't invade the country anyway, but by installing a leader they can be puppet masters to, there will be no need to invade, and that is what I think will happen, or I'm I reading the situation wrong?

You have good point about this even I am not expecting anything going to happen because this will increase tension for the USA and also allow few other countries to invite China here which is already looking here with greedy eyes.

Agency which was supposed to be had end of drug dealers now taking their own share and working peacefully because agencies always have this path of working.

The dictator of this country is not the legitimate president of the republic, as he blatantly cheated the lastest presidential election. That is enough reason to have him outsted and call all people of the country to vote in a new election to restore democracy here.
This is a country which has very low standards of freedom, here one could literally be thrown in jail because of openly being against the ruling party or calling out the president a thief in social media.

Also, the ruling party has thrown union workers into jail, for protesting for better working places and better salaries.
The minimum monthly salary here in Venezuela is less than one dollar, which can give you a very good idea of how reckless and stupidly dangerous this government/dictatorship is.

[covfefe_]

If Hispo wants his country be attacked for regime change, do it.

[DeathAngel]

Very unlikely, the US will not engage without serious threat to themselves. I don’t think people from Venezuela have to worry at all. The US is probably just in the region for non provocative reasons.

[Hispo]

Very unlikely, the US will not engage without serious threat to themselves. I don’t think people from Venezuela have to worry at all. The US is probably just in the region for non provocative reasons.

The United States already set a prize / reward for the capture of our president and doubled it up to 50 million dollars. Don't you think that is somewhat provocative enough? Not even mentioning that after doubling the reward for the capture of the president, they started to mobilize war-vessels into the Caribbean sea. I would not call it a coincidence, there are trying to create fear among the people within this criminal administration, fear and uncertainty.

I doubt the USA will try to directly over-throw these criminals, but at the very least, there are seeking to create pressure on them.

[pooya87]

The dictator of this country is not the legitimate president of the republic
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The United States already set a prize / reward for the capture of our president and doubled it up to 50 million dollars.

This way of thinking is the reason why so many countries have gotten destroyed. People never learn from history and from others. Now they want to turn Venezuela into Syria 2.0, Libya 2.0, Iraq 2.0, and so many others simply because nobody reads history! Not history of a million years ago, history of past 20 freaking years!!!

You think the governments of any of these countries I just named were so good and without corruption? Do you really think the government in the US and in EU and in any other place is so good and without corruption?

If you think your government is illegitimate, then it is YOUR responsibility to deal with it but when a foreign bloodthirsty regime is threatening your country you must stand against it and with your government not with the foreign enemy.
Why? Because that bloodthirsty enemy would turn you into one of those countries I just named.

Let me give you a quick summary of what happened in Syria.
Syrians had a good life with a good standard of living once. The Ba'athi party was in power, it had its problems like any other government in the world but it was protecting the country and its people and the economy was good. Then came the NATO with its so called Coalition of Willing calling their president a "dictator" and started sanctioning them and by them I don't mean Ba'athi party and Bashar al-Assad; no no. I mean they sanctioned the people. The Syrian economy started shrinking and getting worse every day.

Their NATO neighbor, a weasel called Erdogan also started cutting their water with multiple dams he kept building on the rivers that went into Syria, all at the behest of his boss ie. the US regime. Slowly but surely farmers were left without water, villages and then cities were emptied and people started migrating toward the capital while the economy kept getting worse and worse due to US regime's economic terrorism against the people of Syria. Meanwhile the mouthpieces kept saying it is all the so called "dictator's" fault.

Protests began as millions were living in the edge of the city without work and food while blaming the government. Calling their own legitimately elected government stuff similar to "illegitimate president of the republic".

All of a sudden came a group of armed men whom were referred to with different terms depending on which side you were on. The US regime was calling them "people protesting against Assad regime" and their foreign minister was saying that US is arming them; the rest of the world however knew them as Da'esh aka ISIS, a multi-national group of radical Wahhabi terrorists.

That tore apart their country, before people knew it the eastern Syria was occupied by extremists/separatists backed and armed by the US regime while majority of their oil and gas fields were in full control of US stealing their resources. And as Trump once said about the reason why they still remain in Syria: "it's all for the oil". They don't give a shit about dictators, if they did they wouldn't shake hands with the Arab dictators. Part of the north was occupied by Erdogan and the other part was occupied with Takfiri terrorists who were remainder of US-backed ISIS and al-Qaeda (in Idlib mostly) and their country was being bombed regularly by another terrorist organization to their west called Israel.
Why did all this happen? Because many Syrians cheered when NATO invaded instead of fighting the invaders!

During this time their economy got worse, obviously the government could not even sell its own oil (US regime was stealing it). To the point where people had to stand in line with their identity cards to get a small loaf of bread.

But that wasn't the end, the US regime didn't give up. They revived ISIS on November last year and an internationally recognized terrorist who was a deputy of ISIS named Joulani now rules the capital. Trump even shook hands with him, thanking him for destroying Syria.
These terrorists have already slaughtered tens of thousands of Syrians over the past 8-9 months.

Do you know whom the Syrians are begging to return these days? The same Assad they called a dictator.
Do you know whom the Libyans are begging to return these days that their people are being traded on slaves on open markets? The same Gaddafi they once called a dictator.
A better question, did you know the quality of life Libyans had before NATO invasion was something that Americans and Europeans cannot even see in their dreams at night?

Read some history...

[MusaPk]

Do you know whom the Syrians are begging to return these days? The same Assad they called a dictator.
Do you know whom the Libyans are begging to return these days that their people are being traded on slaves on open markets? The same Gaddafi they once called a dictator.
A better question, did you know the quality of life Libyans had before NATO invasion was something that Americans and Europeans cannot even see in their dreams at night?

Gaddafi did so much for welfare of his people, in Libya under Gaddafi rule people are given facilities like free education, free medical, new baby bonus and much more. People from other countries used to go to Libya to work and earn Libyan Dinar. This is something not told by the countries who invaded Libya to end Gaddafi rule.

Same story but different country i.e. Iraq. Saddam also did so much for the development of country. Under Saddam rule Iraq was one of most developed country of east with best infrastructure.

Key takeaway is that ruler who don't obey orders of US and his allies have to face invasion in the name of 'war to restore democracy'. While rulers of gulf keep ruling their countries (with no democracy) because they obey orders of US

[Wakate]

This way of thinking is the reason why so many countries have gotten destroyed. People never learn from history and from others. Now they want to turn Venezuela into Syria 2.0, Libya 2.0, Iraq 2.0, and so many others simply because nobody reads history! Not history of a million years ago, history of past 20 freaking years!!!

I could remember in 1945 when the US bombed Japan in Hiroshima and Nagasaki just to expand territory. They attached so many countries that can not fight for themselves after them because of power intoxication. Currently France and the United States are planning to overtake Burkina faso just because of their raw materials and I still don't understand why some people would not learn from what happened in History.

You think the governments of any of these countries I just named were so good and without corruption? Do you really think the government in the US and in EU and in any other place is so good and without corruption?

The United States is the most corrupt country in the world but the truth is always hidden from the media. There are so many atrocities the US has committed but there was no one to bring them to book. There has been so many terrorists sponsors by the United States in Nigeria, Arab nations, and other part of Africa and I am happy that people are now understanding what is actually happening beneath the ear.

Take a look at Nigeria which is the giant of Africa. There was a time when the GDP of Nigeria was growing fast but due to hatred and and manipulation, The Boko Haram insurgency was sponsored to cause chaos and conflict in different part of the Northern area which affected the country to keep falling and spending more on security which plumate the Nigerian GDP over a certain period of time. Infact you have explained more than I can ever imagine.

If you think your government is illegitimate, then it is YOUR responsibility to deal with it but when a foreign bloodthirsty regime is threatening your country you must stand against it and with your government not with the foreign enemy.
Why? Because that bloodthirsty enemy would turn you into one of those countries I just named.

Let me give you a quick summary of what happened in Syria.
Syrians had a good life with a good standard of living once. The Ba'athi party was in power, it had its problems like any other government in the world but it was protecting the country and its people and the economy was good. Then came the NATO with its so called Coalition of Willing calling their president a "dictator" and started sanctioning them and by them I don't mean Ba'athi party and Bashar al-Assad; no no. I mean they sanctioned the people. The Syrian economy started shrinking and getting worse every day.

Their NATO neighbor, a weasel called Erdogan also started cutting their water with multiple dams he kept building on the rivers that went into Syria, all at the behest of his boss ie. the US regime. Slowly but surely farmers were left without water, villages and then cities were emptied and people started migrating toward the capital while the economy kept getting worse and worse due to US regime's economic terrorism against the people of Syria. Meanwhile the mouthpieces kept saying it is all the so called "dictator's" fault.

Protests began as millions were living in the edge of the city without work and food while blaming the government. Calling their own legitimately elected government stuff similar to "illegitimate president of the republic".

All of a sudden came a group of armed men whom were referred to with different terms depending on which side you were on. The US regime was calling them "people protesting against Assad regime" and their foreign minister was saying that US is arming them; the rest of the world however knew them as Da'esh aka ISIS, a multi-national group of radical Wahhabi terrorists.

That tore apart their country, before people knew it the eastern Syria was occupied by extremists/separatists backed and armed by the US regime while majority of their oil and gas fields were in full control of US stealing their resources. And as Trump once said about the reason why they still remain in Syria: "it's all for the oil". They don't give a shit about dictators, if they did they wouldn't shake hands with the Arab dictators. Part of the north was occupied by Erdogan and the other part was occupied with Takfiri terrorists who were remainder of US-backed ISIS and al-Qaeda (in Idlib mostly) and their country was being bombed regularly by another terrorist organization to their west called Israel.
Why did all this happen? Because many Syrians cheered when NATO invaded instead of fighting the invaders!

During this time their economy got worse, obviously the government could not even sell its own oil (US regime was stealing it). To the point where people had to stand in line with their identity cards to get a small loaf of bread.

But that wasn't the end, the US regime didn't give up. They revived ISIS on November last year and an internationally recognized terrorist who was a deputy of ISIS named Joulani now rules the capital. Trump even shook hands with him, thanking him for destroying Syria.
These terrorists have already slaughtered tens of thousands of Syrians over the past 8-9 months.

Do you know whom the Syrians are begging to return these days? The same Assad they called a dictator.
Do you know whom the Libyans are begging to return these days that their people are being traded on slaves on open markets? The same Gaddafi they once called a dictator.
A better question, did you know the quality of life Libyans had before NATO invasion was something that Americans and Europeans cannot even see in their dreams at night?

Read some history...

I am feeling emotional right now reading all these which I know it was the obvious truth the news would never tell us. You must have gone through history to know all these dude! Thanks for the forbidden truth you have expressed so far and I know that those who understand the evil the United States and NATO had unleashed on other countries that can not fight for themselves would never take your words for granted. Your words carry weight and hidden truth that even Japan, Africa, Arab nations, China and other part of Asia would never forget the history.

The US is always the first to point fingers on countries that are trying as much as possible to give their citizens the best life that would make their country great and competitive with the Western world.

[Gentle_Soul]

During the last weeks, there is an accumulation of US ships - including some amphibious assault capable units near the coast of Venezuela. Is this a negotiating position or are we about to get yet anothe war of aggression?

Until we can come up with solid facts and proofs to show that truely US want to  militarily attack Venezuela otherwise it could be regarded as speculation for me.
Amidst this, there are also certain systematic approaches that suggest otherwise.
Though the president of Venezuela Nicholas Maduro has pointed at the secret military base at Essequibo as a treat hence a reason to suggest an attack or insecurity because normally this are territories that should literally be attributed to Venezuela and Guyana
US war ship deployment to tackle narco terrorists  was to some extent not done with a genuine intention, for transparency sake I feel like it should have been more transparent other than it to look like an act of forcefully taking over the region. I do not tend to clearly know what the intentions behind this actions may be but  I feel like it's more of politics and security issues.

Triumph increasing the number of security patrolling the boarder  to 15,000 is commendable for me but I just hope his intentions are pure truly he has stated that it's to combat drug trafficking into the area so if that be the case then it's a perfect move owing to the fact that over the years only God knows the amount of atrocities that might have been going on there .
The president of Venezuela and the prime minister coming out to say the place is void of drug trafficking is what I'm yet to come to conclusion with. People should know the whole truth are there other things under the ground that people don't know of??

Us sub marine and other war ship changing direction and focusing towards the coast of Venezuela is indeed of great concern but the US is hiding under the cover of trying to cortail the sale and distribution of cocaine and other dangerous drugs around the region and beyond how that won't have been a problem but I feel like it is probably seen as a treat is because the drug lords and cartels tend to cover there interest hence the reason why Trumph pointed fingers at the president and his right hand man placing a whooping sum of 50million and 25million dollars respectively there is obviously some possible condition of the men in the crime they accused of just my thought actually.

Honestly am forced to if this whole saga is really about drug smuggling or probably about squeezing Maduro into a tight corner I mean I mean the bounty of 50 million dollars is extremely high for me so I thought.
This could all be triggered towards making Maduro to actually come out to admit his involvement in drug shipment but then what could be the interest of the US in making him do that all together there are just so much involved in this crisis.

[paxmao]

Very unlikely, the US will not engage without serious threat to themselves. I don’t think people from Venezuela have to worry at all. The US is probably just in the region for non provocative reasons.

The United States already set a prize / reward for the capture of our president and doubled it up to 50 million dollars. Don't you think that is somewhat provocative enough? Not even mentioning that after doubling the reward for the capture of the president, they started to mobilize war-vessels into the Caribbean sea. I would not call it a coincidence, there are trying to create fear among the people within this criminal administration, fear and uncertainty.

I doubt the USA will try to directly over-throw these criminals, but at the very least, there are seeking to create pressure on them.

Let's make thing clear: The US is there for the oil. How do I know? Because when the Republican Party is in charge they are always waging oil wars.

You want a regime change? I do not blame you. You want a regime change led by the US? Call Irak, they will give you a Tripadvisor Review on that.

BTW, I guess Maduro would be in his right to put a 50 million reward on Trump]s head on the basis of being ... a rapist or whatever they come up with.

[Hispo]

Very unlikely, the US will not engage without serious threat to themselves. I don’t think people from Venezuela have to worry at all. The US is probably just in the region for non provocative reasons.

The United States already set a prize / reward for the capture of our president and doubled it up to 50 million dollars. Don't you think that is somewhat provocative enough? Not even mentioning that after doubling the reward for the capture of the president, they started to mobilize war-vessels into the Caribbean sea. I would not call it a coincidence, there are trying to create fear among the people within this criminal administration, fear and uncertainty.

I doubt the USA will try to directly over-throw these criminals, but at the very least, there are seeking to create pressure on them.

Let's make thing clear: The US is there for the oil. How do I know? Because when the Republican Party is in charge they are always waging oil wars.

You want a regime change? I do not blame you. You want a regime change led by the US? Call Irak, they will give you a Tripadvisor Review on that.

BTW, I guess Maduro would be in his right to put a 50 million reward on Trump]s head on the basis of being ... a rapist or whatever they come up with.

You are talking as the Republican party is the only faction within the United States which has interest on the oil of this country, as a matter of fact, the democrat party would also be in favor a overthrowing the regime of this country, not only because the easy access to oil, also because there are many valuable minerals in this land and in order to keep the influence of Moscow at bay and do not allow the kremlin to influence over Latin america.
It does not matter whether the president of the USa is democrat or Republican, the establishment will always be against Maduro and his crooks, who are illegally holding the power in this country.

These criminals here are so desperate, that they are willing to force people to become part of the militia, there are barely any people genuinely supporting Maduro.