Why still plagiarize when there is AI?

[Rikafip]

I came across this thread - Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed and I wondered why it is very much still active.

It is active, but nowhere as much as it was in the past meaning shitposters are learning and are using new tools that are at their disposal.

I have known this thread for long, I think that people should not be plagiarizing again, especially now we have AI.

They shouldn't have done it it in the past either. 

Why is there still plagiarism?

Ignorance, laziness...

[virasog]

If anyone doesn't understand a particular topic of discussion in a thread, they could easily google it or ask AI, use 15 to 20 mins to read about the topic and return to the forum to make organic contribution.

I thought that the reason why people were plagiarizing in the past was because of the lack of research tools and platform. Now that even google has integrated AI, research shouldn't be difficult and the rate of plagiarism is supposed to reduce drastically.
Why is there still plagiarism?

You have answered the question yourself. Those who are doing plagiarism, I don't think they would be so creative to spend 10- 15 minutes to understand and use AI to generate a reply, they will just stick to the old school of just copying and pasting and thinking they will get away with it. Those people are too lazy to get help from AI.

[Joy- maker]

Plagiarism has never been because of lack of research materials, both here in bitcointalk and anywhere else plagiarism is frowned upon. People plagiarize in bitcointalk because of laziness and the desire to rank up as fast as possible, with as little effort as possible or no effort at all. Research materials have always been available, but to copy and past is the easier option for lazy members.

you are right a lot of people plagiarise here on bitcointalk, because they too lazy, and eager to rank up very fast, and not because of lack of researching tools, people who plagiarise don't have time to write something that is organic that's why they end up copying what others have written down and post then here on bitcointalk without add another word of their own which is not making sense at all. At least when you come across something online and  you feel like posting the thing here on bitcointalk just take the main things from  what you saw online and the rest of the things should come from you or you put them in a quotation Mark so that when other users come across them they will know that those words are not yours and it will be understandable.

[Donneski]

Plagiarism has never been because of lack of research materials, both here in bitcointalk and anywhere else plagiarism is frowned upon. People plagiarize in bitcointalk because of laziness and the desire to rank up as fast as possible, with as little effort as possible or no effort at all. Research materials have always been available, but to copy and past is the easier option for lazy members.

Yes, I agree with you that plagiarism has always been about laziness and shortcuts especially from people who just want to rank up fast without putting in the real work. But at the same time, I also think it wasn’t as easy to make research and understand things in the past as it is today. With AI tools and even the way Google integrates answers now, researching now feels much lighter than what it used to be and that I think is the major reason the OP came up with this topic.  Now, you can easily digest a topic in minutes and come back with your own words. That’s why plagiarism today looks even more unjustifiable because the excuse of not knowing how to research is almost gone.

Another angle is that a lot of people don’t actually trust their own writing ability. They feel their words won’t sound good enough or won’t be taken seriously so instead of writing with their own knowledge, they resort to ready-made texts from others, a practice that's highly prohibited and punishable in the forum.

[Ultegra134]

Well, you've got a point, but it has actually been proven to you already. How many plagiarism reports do we get in the main thread anymore? Just a couple per month, but in the AI report thread, we get more than one to three users per week. I remember even reporting as many as five to six users per week myself alone, there was a period, where I also had more time available, that I would catch more than one to two users daily. The users who would have used copy/paste plagiarism are now using AI, it's also a form of plagiarism if you think it through, because in fact-related topics, it has to extract information from somewhere.

[nutildah]

The users who would have used copy/paste plagiarism are now using AI, it's also a form of plagiarism if you think it through, because in fact-related topics, it has to extract information from somewhere.

Yep, this is 100% the way I see it as well. I mean, peeps that engage in AI shitposting are doing the exact same thing plagiarists are doing: implicitly taking credit for content they didn't create. And its largely for the same reason, which is to avoid having to use one's own brain.

Posting AI material is perhaps even more offensive than plagiarizing IMHO. After all, any idiot can do what these people are doing. Meaning, any idiot has access to ChatGPT or Grok and can feed it a post to respond to or ask it to generate a summary of this or that topic.

[Fiasem20]

I thought that the reason why people were plagiarizing in the past was because of the lack of research tools and platform. Now that even google has integrated AI, research shouldn't be difficult and the rate of plagiarism is supposed to reduce drastically.
Why is there still plagiarism?

The simple truth is, people are plagiarizing because they fail to acknowledge the original poster of the content they want to pass to the public.Insufficient research tools have never been the main reason why people were plagiarizing in the past, even before artificial intelligence came into existence Google has been in existence,so that's not the major reason why people plagiarise.It's just a simple thing to do, give citation or the source from the site you've taken an information from.

[Alpha Marine]

If anyone doesn't understand a particular topic of discussion in a thread, they could easily google it or ask AI, use 15 to 20 mins to read about the topic and return to the forum to make organic contribution.

Bold of you to assume they have 15 to 20 minutes to read.

I thought that the reason why people were plagiarizing in the past was because of the lack of research tools and platform. Now that even google has integrated AI, research shouldn't be difficult and the rate of plagiarism is supposed to reduce drastically.
Why is there still plagiarism?

Anybody who could not spend 15 minutes reading before AI will not spend 15 minutes reading with AI. It's not like researching something on Google was more difficult than it is now. It's still the same thing. The difference is, the meta description that was the first to appear before when you search for something has been replaced by Google's AI. So a person who was too lazy to research, read and understand a particular topic before will still be lazy to read an AI's explanation so what they do is plagerize what the AI said.

[Ultegra134]

Yep, this is 100% the way I see it as well. I mean, peeps that engage in AI shitposting are doing the exact same thing plagiarists are doing: implicitly taking credit for content they didn't create. And its largely for the same reason, which is to avoid having to use one's own brain.

Posting AI material is perhaps even more offensive than plagiarizing IMHO. After all, any idiot can do what these people are doing. Meaning, any idiot has access to ChatGPT or Grok and can feed it a post to respond to or ask it to generate a summary of this or that topic.

There's absolutely no reason to plagarism anymore, AI tools can do that too, along with writing a complete summary within seconds. It can find sources for any kind of article within seconds.

The only positive thing I've noticed the past few months is that the number of reports for AI has gone down. I also remember reporting anywhere from three to five users on a weekly basis, but now it's a lot more sparse. It seems that our efforts have discouraged some people from even trying to get away with AI usage. On the other hand, I've also noticed that I'm receiving mixed results in users that's almost certain are using AI, which is a little concerning because some people are finding ways to manipulate the detectors.

[lovesmayfamilis]

The only positive thing I've noticed the past few months is that the number of reports for AI has gone down. I also remember reporting anywhere from three to five users on a weekly basis, but now it's a lot more sparse. It seems that our efforts have discouraged some people from even trying to get away with AI usage. On the other hand, I've also noticed that I'm receiving mixed results in users that's almost certain are using AI, which is a little concerning because some people are finding ways to manipulate the detectors.

I think otherwise; probably those who used AI got other tools that humanize texts well, and unfortunately, there are a lot of them. Because of this, the number of those caught decreased. Without expecting it, we taught spammers AI how to write posts so that they are undetectable. Yes, AI is easy for everyone, but there are many tricks on the Internet on how to work with AI and not get caught. I think fans of this tool will definitely use such methods. Those who simply copy texts from the Internet during such technologies as AI, one can say, are at the lowest level of development and laziness, and it is probably not worth expecting that they will be able to extract something from the forum. Although the ban on plagiarism in our time is considered for each person personally.

[tbct_mt2]

I think otherwise; probably those who used AI got other tools that humanize texts well, and unfortunately, there are a lot of them. Because of this, the number of those caught decreased. Without expecting it, we taught spammers AI how to write posts so that they are undetectable. Yes, AI is easy for everyone, but there are many tricks on the Internet on how to work with AI and not get caught. I think fans of this tool will definitely use such methods. Those who simply copy texts from the Internet during such technologies as AI, one can say, are at the lowest level of development and laziness, and it is probably not worth expecting that they will be able to extract something from the forum. Although the ban on plagiarism in our time is considered for each person personally.

I heard of Humanized AI tools and I remembered it was discussed in the forum too.

Possibly lazy posters are always fans of plagiarims, AI contents and Humanized AI contents as well as some extra tricks to make their traditional plagiarism and AI-plagiarisms harder to be detected.

Many deravatives of plagiarisms and it's similarly for existence of AI-plagiarism deravatives.

New sort of plagiarism
Text spinning/disguised plagiarism
is it plagiarism?

[Zoomic]

If anyone doesn't understand a particular topic of discussion in a thread, they could easily google it or ask AI, use 15 to 20 mins to read about the topic and return to the forum to make organic contribution.

I thought that the reason why people were plagiarizing in the past was because of the lack of research tools and platform. Now that even google has integrated AI, research shouldn't be difficult and the rate of plagiarism is supposed to reduce drastically.
Why is there still plagiarism?

You have answered the question yourself. Those who are doing plagiarism, I don't think they would be so creative to spend 10- 15 minutes to understand and use AI to generate a reply, they will just stick to the old school of just copying and pasting and thinking they will get away with it. Those people are too lazy to get help from AI.

The response of more than 80% of the people in this thread is centered on laziness. I haven't known laziness in this context before. I thought laziness only applies to physical laziness, ie when someone is involved in a work that will require physical strength.
So, this type of laziness should be call intellectual laziness right?
This should only be done by newbies who doesn't know the rules of the forum. I will visit that thread again to see if higher ranks other than newbies still commit plagiarism.

[Hazink]

I think otherwise; probably those who used AI got other tools that humanize texts well, and unfortunately, there are a lot of them. Because of this, the number of those caught decreased. Without expecting it, we taught spammers AI how to write posts so that they are undetectable. Yes, AI is easy for everyone, but there are many tricks on the Internet on how to work with AI and not get caught. I think fans of this tool will definitely use such methods. Those who simply copy texts from the Internet during such technologies as AI, one can say, are at the lowest level of development and laziness, and it is probably not worth expecting that they will be able to extract something from the forum. Although the ban on plagiarism in our time is considered for each person personally.

But since laziness is one of the major reasons why people plagiarize and make use of AI, with the time and research that most people spend just to discover a way they can use to humanize AI-written content, if they also invest the same time in learning, can’t they just expand and present something from their head, or is laziness not just the only issue here, but most of them lack what to offer and just need an AI to do the thinking for them? Or it could probably be a lack of self-confidence.

[Alone055]

But since laziness is one of the major reasons why people plagiarize and make use of AI, with the time and research that most people spend just to discover a way they can use to humanize AI-written content, if they also invest the same time in learning, can’t they just expand and present something from their head, or is laziness not just the only issue here, but most of them lack what to offer and just need an AI to do the thinking for them? Or it could probably be a lack of self-confidence.

Both a lack of knowledge and self-confidence are the reasons why people use AI to generate posts for them, because they understand that an AI model will have more knowledge about the topic than them do, and then it will also be able to produce better words, sentences, paragraphs, etc.

It's a valid argument that those who spend so much time generating AI content and then using tools to humanize them to avoid getting detected can spend the same amount of time or even less in thinking and then writing something on their own, but as I said, a lack of knowledge and an ability to think and come up with valid and unique points themselves is a feature they don't posses. This is the reason why they don't care about the amount of time they might have to spend on it, because in the end, they manage to post something that they could never think of themselves.

[Hazink]

But since laziness is one of the major reasons why people plagiarize and make use of AI, with the time and research that most people spend just to discover a way they can use to humanize AI-written content, if they also invest the same time in learning, can’t they just expand and present something from their head, or is laziness not just the only issue here, but most of them lack what to offer and just need an AI to do the thinking for them? Or it could probably be a lack of self-confidence.

Both a lack of knowledge and self-confidence are the reasons why people use AI to generate posts for them, because they understand that an AI model will have more knowledge about the topic than them do, and then it will also be able to produce better words, sentences, paragraphs, etc.

But are most of those people not aware that AI can also produce misinformation about a particular thing? I believe one of the ways to even spot some AI-generated content in some places is how they can completely go rogue and produce what might not be helpful to an ongoing discussion, which if the AI user doesn’t have a clue about what’s happening, they might not be able to notice it and stupidly copy and paste it.

[Catenaccio]

But are most of those people not aware that AI can also produce misinformation about a particular thing? I believe one of the ways to even spot some AI-generated content in some places is how they can completely go rogue and produce what might not be helpful to an ongoing discussion, which if the AI user doesn’t have a clue about what’s happening, they might not be able to notice it and stupidly copy and paste it.

AI can provide very helpful and straigth to the point answers for any discussion but the AI users must understand well about AI, how to make proper prompts in order to trigger AI works well and give them relevant posts.

This leads to a funny fact in AI practice of plagiarists who are surely lazy so that they don't have enough time and patience to try and adjust their prompts to AI in order to get as best content as possible for their posts. This is the biggest problem of AI users and plagiarists while AI is not responsible for not too good content. It's very unrealistic to as lazy people to spend a little bit more time for changing their prompts to AI as they don't mind about which content they will be given by AI.

[God Of Thunder]

I thought that the reason why people were plagiarizing in the past was because of the lack of research tools and platform. Now that even google has integrated AI, research shouldn't be difficult and the rate of plagiarism is supposed to reduce drastically.
Why is there still plagiarism?

You are getting it wrong. People do not plagiarize because of a lack of research tools. They plagiarize to earn merit. If someone wants to learn, they have to read and acquire knowledge. Copy-pasting on the forum has nothing to do with the research. Why do I have to post something on a forum to learn something? Just quote the post and ask if someone wants to learn. But I believe the reason is something else. Most people copy the posts that will earn them some merit.

[Zigabel]

I thought that the reason why people were plagiarizing in the past was because of the lack of research tools and platform. Now that even google has integrated AI, research shouldn't be difficult and the rate of plagiarism is supposed to reduce drastically.
Why is there still plagiarism?

Using AI tool for research, for the purpose of gathering information isn't a bad one but posting Aai text here is discouraged, that in itself can at some point  be considered plagiarism especially when you copied all of it and paste here, some persons in a bid to get a well articulated post you find them copying the AI generated post and then coming to past here, the forum does frow against that.

One reason I think plagiarism is still on the high side is that some persons want to generate quality post by all means so they can get so.e merit and some others are just looking to complete their post count for the week nevertheless there could be other reasons but for whatsoever reasons, plagiarism or the use of AI generated post is not tolerated here.

[AVE5]

I wondered why it is very much still active. I have known this thread for long, I think that people should not be plagiarizing again, especially now we have AI. Do not get me wrong, I do not endorse people using AI to make posts here. I am advocating for the right use of AI.
If anyone doesn't understand a particular topic of discussion in a thread, they could easily google it or ask AI, use 15 to 20 mins to read about the topic and return to the forum to make organic contribution.

I guess you're expecting an end to plagiarism since you've known how effective and active the anti plagiarism thread has long been existing and you're either not expecting the thread to be so much active furthermore since there had been set amenities to do justice with users plagiarizing.
Well it isn't unfortunate to say plagiarism hasn't come to an end yet in the forum but the he activeness of the thread and the patrolling users of the forum has been doing so well to put tension that doesn't accommodate it which as well had effectively brought an ease to users plagiarizing.
In the second hand, acquisition of informations with the use of AI and google isn't against the forum because they could be resourceful while researching but plagiarizing with it apparently implies cheating. It's neither not going to be unfortunate that users especially Newbies won't seize to plagiarize but the good formation is that there's no room to condone it as long Mods and other patrolling users are duly active fighting it via reports and appropriate users taking actions.

[Zoomic]

I thought that the reason why people were plagiarizing in the past was because of the lack of research tools and platform. Now that even google has integrated AI, research shouldn't be difficult and the rate of plagiarism is supposed to reduce drastically.
Why is there still plagiarism?

You are getting it wrong. People do not plagiarize because of a lack of research tools. They plagiarize to earn merit. If someone wants to learn, they have to read and acquire knowledge. Copy-pasting on the forum has nothing to do with the research. Why do I have to post something on a forum to learn something? Just quote the post and ask if someone wants to learn. But I believe the reason is something else. Most people copy the posts that will earn them some merit.

I agree with you that some people plagiarize in order to earn merits. And majority of them end up sending their accounts to early graves.
Thinking of this in another dimension, it is recommended to investigate any newbie that is earning merits rapidly.
This could be a clue to catch newbie plagiarists. This does not mean that there are no newbies who earn merits genuinely.
There are many of them these days.