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September 03, 2025, 09:46:24 PM
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I won't specify a specific number of years, but it's certainly more than a year. For some reasons, I consider a year to be medium-term. For Bitcoin, four years is probably the most appropriate timeframe, considering the Bitcoin cycle.

I personally strive to invest based on time horizons. This isn't easy at all, as it requires patience and sacrifice. I often experience losses in short- and medium-term investments when my predetermined time horizon is reached, and of course, we have to wait longer to see profits.
Crypto isn't like other investments, even 6 months could be a long term. But for me, it is 4 year cycle, and anything in between that period is a long term investment. So for example, 2022 year was a bear year, if you bought in 2022 when it went down, and waited until 2025 until it peaked and sold, that was a long term investment.

But if you bought in 2024 early on, and sold early in 2025, you still made a profit and that is one long term investment as well. I believe in all of these to be long term, as long as you are not day trading. Of course one week is not a long term trading, but if you can find the entry point very well and exit point very well, there are great moments between 6 to 8 months where you can make a great return.


Both of you are hitting on the point, the term long time investment does not have a specific time frame but does not mean the probability of of making profits in the short term is an investment but trading. I believe traders are short term goalers who stresses on making profits in a specific short term and that is why they looses whenever they sells at the wrong target time based on short timeframe.
Yes it might not be so easy to hold for a longer especially when you are financially struggling or your state emotions could be too fragile to be more patient. Although even if there is a possibility to make profits in the short term maybe you were opportuned to buy at a highly volatility and make profits in the shortcoming does not really mean you invested in the long term. Long term investments is a financial project set to achieve a goal in a timely fram that is likely to had experienced all bitcoin market cycles as four years while others might see it as a retirement project.

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September 04, 2025, 08:07:32 AM
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It has been so dramatic with how we define the duration for long time investment. Everyone have their own view of how they think their patient or investment plans can sustain them all the while.
Some foresee the least 4 years some foresees 8 years and above to be a long term plans but yet, some says either 4 to 8 years is not enough to be long term plans but 10 years and above.
I think this is a psychological matter where your emotions and your alternative source of income flows have to determine your goals and as well your time of holding before taking a sells decision.

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

Before I answer your question, I would like you to also take some time and reason what was the price of Bitcoin in the last 10 years, which is 2015, and compare it with what the price of Bitcoin might be in the next 10 years, which will be 2035. If you see the profit range, you will understand that 10 years is not that much to wait, because if you keep that money you invest in Bitcoin as fiat in your traditional bank or even at home, in 10 years you will not be able to get any value with it, and if care is not taken, it might even lose its value due to inflation.

Furthermore, why I said 10 years is not that much is because if you look at the lives of some people, you will see that in the last 10 years some were rich but are now poor, while some are still in the same spot. So, if you are opportune to have the money to invest for a long time, why not invest it in Bitcoin and continue with your life, then in 10 years you can come back to see what you invested.

I know some will have reasons, but if you really want to invest, you will have to get that discipline and patience before you start. If not, you will not be able to go far in it, as you may end up spoiling your investment with your own hands, and in the nearest future, you will be the one to either enjoy it or suffer for it.

This is why a wise man said, the choices we make today determine our future. It is not bad for you to decide what your own definition of long time is.

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September 04, 2025, 12:18:21 PM
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I think "long term" is really subjective and depends a lot on your personal situation. For Bitcoin, many people consider 5–10 years as long term, mainly to ride out volatility and benefit from potential adoption growth. But if you have other income streams and can tolerate risk, even 3–5 years could work as a long-term mindset. Ultimately, it’s about patience and not reacting to short-term swings.
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September 04, 2025, 12:56:38 PM
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So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?
4 years for me. You know why? That's because of the 4-year cycle that might be broken anytime soon, and when that happens, that's when I will adjust my definition of "long-term holding or investment".

We have different definition when it comes to "long-term investment". Some have 5 years (most common), some even have 10 years, and there are stupid ones that thinks that long-term for them when it comes to holding Bitcoin is "FOREVER". This is a subjective matter, and TBH, my definition of long-term investing back in 2021 caused me thousands of dollars that's why I made an adjustment this 2025 bull run.

Anyway, it's all about the patience you want to put in our investments, and the trust of course.

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September 04, 2025, 01:22:44 PM
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So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?
If your mindset is long term holding of bitcoin then you should be ready and Willing to hold your bitcoin investment for like 4 to 10 years or more in other for you to make reasonable profit, because investing in bitcoin isn't like other investments that you can just cabbage in and cabbage out and bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme, bitcoin is very volatile in nature and it price always fluctuate dramatically so you don't have to be in a hurry to take profit, investing in bitcoin is a game of patient and commitment, so instead of taking of selling your bitcoin accumulate bitcoin consistently with your discretionary income until you accumulate of it and hold for 4 to 10 years or more.

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September 04, 2025, 01:27:14 PM
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So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

Everyone certainly has a different understanding of long-term investment planning. Some use the halving moment as a reference, while others do not care about the timing of their investment plans, but simply continue to accumulate the Bitcoin they own.
I do not hold for a long time. I also only buy Bitcoin for a timeframe that I determine. Although I also sell some when I want to sell them due to needs or other reasons.

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September 04, 2025, 02:03:38 PM
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So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?


For me, holding Bitcoin for 5 years is already a long-term plan. Although there may be some among us who think it is still too early for that time.


Personally, that's too early. Wait for Bitcoin to surge to a seven digit valuation per coin.

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For anyone who is just starting to invest, holding for 5 years is not something easy. Everything can be done after the understanding is acquired gradually. But rather than setting a time target, I prefer to aim for the price that will be reached. At that point, I can calculate how much of the asset I can sell and how much I will continue to hold.


Probably not, but there are "strategies" you could do to help you "sit on your hands" and not to panic when the market becomes VERY volatile. My personal favorite is set up an actual storage, and store your keys in an offline computer that will NEVER connect to the internet.

Another one is generate a paper wallet and hide it somewhere. The extra process of importing/typing your seed could stop you from doing any emotional decisions.

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September 04, 2025, 03:06:16 PM
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So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

Everyone certainly has a different understanding of long-term investment planning. Some use the halving moment as a reference, while others do not care about the timing of their investment plans, but simply continue to accumulate the Bitcoin they own.
I do not hold for a long time. I also only buy Bitcoin for a timeframe that I determine. Although I also sell some when I want to sell them due to needs or other reasons.


That is certainly right, everyone reacts to the bitcoin based on their psychological differences and view of interests. So we don't expect everyone to act the same but on this thread, we are strictly discussing about timeframe that involves minimum of long term investment and not trading as your entry method obviously state it (not holding for the long time). I am either not discriminating short term goalers because of all, the goal is to make profits.

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September 04, 2025, 07:43:15 PM
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As we all know a long term investment is determined by the nature of the investment we think of going into. In the case of bitcoin, it is of utmost importance that we learn to exercise patience because of the market volatility and as such I will say that a minimum of 10 years is appropriate for a bitcoin investment long term goal and besides, while having a rundown of bitcoin journey so far, it was able to achieve a significant price value before the space of ten years and counting which means that it could do much more than that before the count of ten years looking at the speed it grew and the constant adoption rate coupled with the fact that it is beginning to serve as a national reserve for nations  within the time frame it has evolved which would further give a boost to its price value.Therefore 10 years is enough significant time to expect a good return on investment on bitcoin  as the adoption rate keeps increasing which  would give it a boost for price increase but it would take an investor patience to be able to achieve such investment goals looking at the time interval involved.


So you are discarding a minimum of 4 years on this quest? Well, that is of your own view afterall it is at my opinion that this long term varies based on individual psychological insights and Investment goals while some investors as set on this journey for retirement purposes which might take them almost lifetime plans.
If we also considers maximizing our profits in due time as certainly the price rises much as more investors are buying bitcoins overtime. So it is obvious ideal that the longer you hold is the more profits you could achieve over the long term. So I will say 4 years can be accorded a long term while holding longer maximizes the probability of increasing our profits referencing historical performance and the anticipation that the price will always rise in time to come.

Anyone have is plan on is bitcoin investment, some people plan to sold there coin in long term like 5 to 10 years and some don't think of selling there coin because they think if they sell now, they will miss the huge profit when the bitcoin increases. I don't usually invest for short term but when I get profit I usually sell my profit and leave my capital because am not greedy to wait I should get huge profit before I sell my bitcoin profit. Everyone have is view on how he plan is bitcoin investment to reach before they sell it and enjoy the benefits.

If you can be patient in your investment you will always get profit without feelings discourage on investing for the long term. Because bitcoin is always volatile and to get profit, that can make you satisfied. you need to invest for long term and you will be topping your investment anytime you have the opportunity to invest higher because I usually believe that bitcoin is not at risk like other coins and he can always minimize your risk when you didn't sell at wrong time.

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September 04, 2025, 08:23:39 PM
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It has been so dramatic with how we define the duration for long time investment. Everyone have their own view of how they think their patient or investment plans can sustain them all the while.
Some foresee the least 4 years some foresees 8 years and above to be a long term plans but yet, some says either 4 to 8 years is not enough to be long term plans but 10 years and above.
I think this is a psychological matter where your emotions and your alternative source of income flows have to determine your goals and as well your time of holding before taking a sells decision.

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?
To my mind, long-term investment is an investment that lasts for more than 10 years. Btw in Bitcoin's case you often hear 4 year, number four because Bitcoin halving happens every 4th year, which means that the block reward gets halved and miners generate 50% less Bitcoin. In order to keep mining profitable, the price of the coin should rise or otherwise miners won't be able to mine Bitcoin, so everyone has an expectation of a bull run because of that event and that's also what happens in reality in the end. I suggest everyone to don't touch their Bitcoin investment for 4-5 years, profit during the bull run and sell the coin before the market crashes, then repeat the process again.

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If you want to maximize your investment, you don’t have to limit it just like 3-5 years, but challenge yourself to go with 10-15 years if you can without tempting to sell your coins earlier than that, that way you will be making excellent profits then, not only 2x or 3x but it’s most likely 5x-10x as long as bitcoin price continue to increase its price year by year.

Patience is certainly a must, that’s the best weapon you can use against greed and temptation to sell earlier just because you want to profit while watching others are already making profits as well.

 
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September 04, 2025, 10:25:06 PM
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If you want to maximize your investment, you don’t have to limit it just like 3-5 years, but challenge yourself to go with 10-15 years if you can without tempting to sell your coins earlier than that, that way you will be making excellent profits then, not only 2x or 3x but it’s most likely 5x-10x as long as bitcoin price continue to increase its price year by year.

Patience is certainly a must, that’s the best weapon you can use against greed and temptation to sell earlier just because you want to profit while watching others are already making profits as well.


But be specific on what sort of "coins" those in your wallet are. Cool

If it's Bitcoin, HODL. You need a hedge against fiat and the legacy financial system's devaluation of money.

Altcoins, that's going to be very tricky especially for plebs like us. I suggest doing the winning strategy - HODL Bitcoin.

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September 04, 2025, 10:50:09 PM
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It has been so dramatic with how we define the duration for long time investment. Everyone have their own view of how they think their patient or investment plans can sustain them all the while.
Some foresee the least 4 years some foresees 8 years and above to be a long term plans but yet, some says either 4 to 8 years is not enough to be long term plans but 10 years and above.
I think this is a psychological matter where your emotions and your alternative source of income flows have to determine your goals and as well your time of holding before taking a sells decision.

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?


Individuality is what make the most difference when it comes to investment because our timing is different From each other and for that reason, we need to consider alot of other factors too apart from time, how much we invest also matters to the amount of time we need to wait to get our desired profits that we can consider as a long term profits.


This relates only to long term investors alone and not day trader's, because traders have short term goals, but investors will at least have to wait longer for the profits to come, and the time they need to wait depends on individuals.
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September 05, 2025, 07:19:04 AM
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It has been so dramatic with how we define the duration for long time investment. Everyone have their own view of how they think their patient or investment plans can sustain them all the while.
Some foresee the least 4 years some foresees 8 years and above to be a long term plans but yet, some says either 4 to 8 years is not enough to be long term plans but 10 years and above.
I think this is a psychological matter where your emotions and your alternative source of income flows have to determine your goals and as well your time of holding before taking a sells decision.

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?


I count long term investment by the cycle.
If I invested from bearish to bullish, I think it's already long term. Some people will have different definition of long term. Some even willing to hold bitcoin for multiple decades.

The reason I use cycle to count is because altcoin come and go and bitcoin is following this pattern. It's a good way to get the most out of the market.

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September 05, 2025, 02:25:43 PM
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If you want to maximize your investment, you don’t have to limit it just like 3-5 years, but challenge yourself to go with 10-15 years if you can without tempting to sell your coins earlier than that, that way you will be making excellent profits then, not only 2x or 3x but it’s most likely 5x-10x as long as bitcoin price continue to increase its price year by year.


Of course in bitcoin investment if you have to maximize your asset values you will have to hold beyond than expected in the closets nomatter how excited profits you have made so far and when you think you want more, then you still have to keep holding in the longer time since the price of bitcoin increases over the years as adoption may also increase overtime.
Maximizing your income to your highest peaks is investing towards retirement. This would encourage your emotions to hold firmly until that designated time closely to your retirement obligations is reached.

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September 05, 2025, 04:26:26 PM
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Every investors has different profit target for long term purposes so the answers could be very various depend on their target which i mean some people have enough to hold only 1 or 2 years because they have been achieve their profit target and decide to sell all of their bitcoin but for some people 10 years even still not enough because they are very sure bitcoin still possible to reach new all time high for couple of times in the next few years

And as i said before that in my country there are some people who have more patiently and they never sell all of their bitcoin for over than 10 years and usually if they needed money these people only sell approximatelly less than 5% from all their portfolio asset and currently they can recognized as the millionare because they were successfully to hold bitcoin for long term

 
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September 05, 2025, 05:21:05 PM
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So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

Talking about how long the investment period might be does sound ambiguous, because each person has different investment plans. Personally, i would hold on to it for as long as possible. My mindset is not just about investing to make a profit, more than that, i see investing in Bitcoin as a way to store money so it doesn't get eroded by inflation. If you keep it in a bank, the amount will remain the same, but its value will continue to decrease every year.

In conclusion, for now, i have no intention of selling, either now or in the future. Perhaps because i purchased it using discretionary funds, it doesn't pose a serious burden on my finances, it's leftover money.

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September 05, 2025, 05:23:42 PM
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It has been so dramatic with how we define the duration for long time investment. Everyone have their own view of how they think their patient or investment plans can sustain them all the while.
Some foresee the least 4 years some foresees 8 years and above to be a long term plans but yet, some says either 4 to 8 years is not enough to be long term plans but 10 years and above.
I think this is a psychological matter where your emotions and your alternative source of income flows have to determine your goals and as well your time of holding before taking a sells decision.

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?


A day trader ranges from minutes to a few days;
A short term investor ranges from a few months to 1 year.
A long term investor ranges from 6 months to as they can.
A Hodler is one who does not panic sell when market is crashing.

My personal investment horizon is forever.

TL;DR I am selling small portions of my portfolio to cover some needs and I do DCA from my salary into the same portfolio. So I have inflows and outflows. But my portfolio returns are higher than the amount I withdraw yearly, so I have an increasing total balance.
This is when bitcoin becomes a lifestyle. Please, do you mean your signature campaign earnings as your salary or you mean your off forum job salary?

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Another one that I saw somewhere is a full quarter length. Doesn't mean like from q3 to q4, because that could be just one day difference, I mean like a full quarter length because that is how prices change in that span usually. That means 3 months, if you wait for a full three months, in most likely scenario the price will be different.

There are cases like ours right now where it doesn't change much, it could be considered nearly stable at this point, we have been between 10k and 120k for months and months now, sometimes go above a bit, sometimes go under a bit but mostly between those prices. But in most cases three months is long enough time to see it go down or go up big. That is why that does look like long term enough at minimum.

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September 05, 2025, 05:56:53 PM
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So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?
Two years is what I consider long term investment for me. And that is a very long time, maybe because I am counting it in number of days and not the number of years it self. And you know that bitcoin is fastpaced. You can make a lot of life changing money in bitcoin within the space of the two years. And when that two years reaches, I re-evaluate the what I have achieved and either continue or take profit and leave the capital to continue another cycle. That it my long term investment there.

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