What distance of time is long term investment plans?

[DanWalker]

This is the problem of newcomers who were afraid to buy bitcoin when its price was low, but now, after the price has updated ATH several times. So perhaps the best solution would be to wait for the price to decrease in order to proceed with DCA.

I know that buying bitcoin during the bear season and doing DCA will be more profitable. But the question is, will those who refused to buy bitcoin when the price was low have the courage to buy bitcoin during the bear season?

This is the kind of mentality that many newbies are suffering from, they feel regret when bitcoin increases but show doubts and fear when bitcoin starts to drop. They don't see it as an opportunity.

So if they really want to invest in bitcoin, they should learn about it thoroughly and can start investing now. Because only when they own it can they fully trust bitcoin.

[tvplus006]

...So if they really want to invest in bitcoin, they should learn about it thoroughly and can start investing now.

In my opinion, you can only start Bitcoin DCA at the current price if you plan to hold it for at least 10-15 years. But if we start from a 4-year cycle, then the average purchase price in this case will be lower than the current price, which may lead to a loss.

[Wind_FURY]

Let's give an example of what actually long term is. Do you remember the recently woke up Bitcoin wallets that holds a lot of it? So, whoever the owners of it defines what long term is. And to them, it's not a few years, 5 years but it's more than a decade and that's how they have patiently waited for the right time for them to start selling. It's how you define how long term is to you and how could patient you are by holding the assets that you've chosen. Obviously, Bitcoin is here to stay and that's the best candidate for everyone to opt to for long term holding.

The individual who held 80,000 Bitcoins?

I believe that in that situation, no pleb like us could lecture him/her about "what is long-term" if his investment surged to more than $1 Billion United States Freedom Tomahawk Nuclear Dollars.

 

"What is long-term" will be thrown out of the window once your investment reaches that level of value. That amount of money enough to retire himself/herself and his/her children and grandchildren.

[beveryu778]

It has been so dramatic with how we define the duration for long time investment. Everyone have their own view of how they think their patient or investment plans can sustain them all the while.
Some foresee the least 4 years some foresees 8 years and above to be a long term plans but yet, some says either 4 to 8 years is not enough to be long term plans but 10 years and above.
I think this is a psychological matter where your emotions and your alternative source of income flows have to determine your goals and as well your time of holding before taking a sells decision.

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

Long-term investment horizons can generally be considered a 4-year cycle, but there is no long-term horizon for investing in Bitcoin because every cycle, the ETH coin creates a new ATH, so the longer you are able to hold Bitcoin, the bigger the profit you can get. Usually, a 4-year cycle can be a default horizon. However, if you are financially stronger, you can hold Bitcoin for a few more circles, which will increase your profit even more. So I would say that there is no specific time frame for Bitcoin investment in the long term, it will depend on you.

[justdimin]

Having a Bitcoin investment for 4 years is okay but you should start when the bear run comes. That will help you to buy Bitcoin at a lower price and keep buying using DCA methods. That also helps you to accumulate more Bitcoin than you started with at this time because the price has already increased. But if you want to start now, that will not be a problem.

Kinda terrible advice bro, just as I was praising you recently lol

Don't even bother waiting to start when 'bear run' comes. You can't predict it, and you can't also say it is anymore 4 years cycle now with Bitcoin.

Buying low is great but the thing people keep forgetting about DCA's actual purpose, which is to avoid all this sort of guessing game. AVERAGING works best when you buy all the time, long term. DCA means you start now, any time, no need to wait or predict.

I am not entirely sure if you are correct on this. You "can" predict it, in 2026 it will be bad, and will probably hit rock bottom. Just like how 2022 was bear, and how 2018 was bear. So it is not really that shocking to assume that 2026 will be bear as well. In which case, we are going to be under 100k, so that we will bottom out, we never know what is the bottom, that part is true, but we know when it will start to go down.

I plan for sell orders at 150k, so if price of bitcoin hits 150k. I also have a buy order at 50k in my mind, not really anywhere really, but I will buy at 50k or under. That is how you make money and I believe both of these will happen soon enough, like within a year of right now.

[xiamin]

You may be right. The recommended time frame for Bitcoin accumulation is usually two or three cycles. I think it's a matter of goals and mindset. That's what I want to achieve with my capital. You should have a discretionary fund allocated to Bitcoin while you have an income stream. accumulation with an investment goal can show you responsible behavior because you currently have a source of income and you are accumulating Bitcoin from it, but you may not have this source of income in the future. You should keep holding Bitcoin to be financially independent in the future.

[puloweh555]

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

You've said it yourself that different people with their different views about this subject, which is very Correct. There's no specific definition for this duration, but here is that catch. No matter how anyone views it, if an investment plan is termed long-term, it means that it can't be lower than the duration of 5-years. That's the standard I know. So it now depends on you whether yours is 7 years, 15 years, 30 years or more, they will still call all a long-term investment plan. However, in Bitcoin investment, all true HODLers should be regarded as a long-term Bitcoin investors.

The length of your investment depends on your individual goals. There's no definitive timeframe, but longer is better, as you're investing primarily to seek profit, not loss. If you want to have a good financial future in old age, you'll definitely need a longer investment horizon, as this can't be achieved instantly. Besides having to be patient, you also need to be consistent in your investments to achieve this goal.

In my opinion, when determining your investment horizon, you should have the mindset that time changes everything. Bitcoin's price will continue to rise over time, especially with its limited supply, and each cycle will reach its highest price. So, if you start investing now, especially in Bitcoin, in 10 years, it could become something incredibly valuable.

[Z_MBFM]

You may be right. The recommended time frame for Bitcoin accumulation is usually two or three cycles. I think it's a matter of goals and mindset. That's what I want to achieve with my capital. You should have a discretionary fund allocated to Bitcoin while you have an income stream. accumulation with an investment goal can show you responsible behavior because you currently have a source of income and you are accumulating Bitcoin from it, but you may not have this source of income in the future. You should keep holding Bitcoin to be financially independent in the future.

3 Circles means 12 years. If someone can hold their Bitcoin for 12 years, then they will undoubtedly get several times the profit. Looking at the history of Bitcoin in the last 12 years, we can see that the price of Bitcoin has increased hundreds of times, but now Bitcoin is in the position where it is, it will not be possible to get big profits like before. OG investors of everything can enjoy very big profits. The same has happened in the case of Bitcoin. However, if you hold a few circles of Bitcoin, you can definitely expect 8-10x profit from it if someone can hold their Bitcoin for 12 years. It may be possible to get more profit from other coins, but the risk will also be much higher, but in the case of Bitcoin, the risk is much lower.

[Localhostspeed]

...So if they really want to invest in bitcoin, they should learn about it thoroughly and can start investing now.

In my opinion, you can only start Bitcoin DCA at the current price if you plan to hold it for at least 10-15 years. But if we start from a 4-year cycle, then the average purchase price in this case will be lower than the current price, which may lead to a loss.

The secret thing about Bitcoin is that we don't know what is going to do next. Market traders were making all kind of predictions but I bet not many expected the market was going to reach $100k quickly and now we are here with the price trying to maintain it. We may also see more than we least expect now or later.

I'm not sure if the 4 years cycle will be a thing anymore, we haven't had bull run ever since the last one, altcoins are stuck, maybe institutional doesn't trust these cons again unlike then when everyone can make that profit in less than 4 years.

[slaman29]

Don't even bother waiting to start when 'bear run' comes. You can't predict it, and you can't also say it is anymore 4 years cycle now with Bitcoin.

Buying low is great but the thing people keep forgetting about DCA's actual purpose, which is to avoid all this sort of guessing game. AVERAGING works best when you buy all the time, long term. DCA means you start now, any time, no need to wait or predict.

I am not entirely sure if you are correct on this. You "can" predict it, in 2026 it will be bad, and will probably hit rock bottom. Just like how 2022 was bear, and how 2018 was bear. So it is not really that shocking to assume that 2026 will be bear as well. In which case, we are going to be under 100k, so that we will bottom out, we never know what is the bottom, that part is true, but we know when it will start to go down.

I plan for sell orders at 150k, so if price of bitcoin hits 150k. I also have a buy order at 50k in my mind, not really anywhere really, but I will buy at 50k or under. That is how you make money and I believe both of these will happen soon enough, like within a year of right now.

Well regardless of who is right or wrong when predicting, I still stand by my thing about DCA. Which is to remove the element of predicting, and to buy at all times, ensuring you get the best pricing when averaged out (and this has worked perfectly throughout the whole lifetime of Bitcoin).

Buying at what you think is rock bottom or starting to buy there... is not really DCA tho is it. What if the bottom is 55k? Then your buy orders never trigger. GL tho

[GigaBit]

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

In the case of investing in Bitcoin, though each person determines a period as a long-term investment, I think that the period in which the investment can be profitable should be considered. In the case of ordinary Bitcoin, I consider a period of at least 4 to 10 years as a long-term investment because at least one cycle will be found during this period. Those who hold Bitcoin for up to one cycle will have possibility to make profit and who hold it for longer will see their returns increase further.

[xiamin]

You may be right. The recommended time frame for Bitcoin accumulation is usually two or three cycles. I think it's a matter of goals and mindset. That's what I want to achieve with my capital. You should have a discretionary fund allocated to Bitcoin while you have an income stream. accumulation with an investment goal can show you responsible behavior because you currently have a source of income and you are accumulating Bitcoin from it, but you may not have this source of income in the future. You should keep holding Bitcoin to be financially independent in the future.

3 Circles means 12 years. If someone can hold their Bitcoin for 12 years, then they will undoubtedly get several times the profit. Looking at the history of Bitcoin in the last 12 years, we can see that the price of Bitcoin has increased hundreds of times, but now Bitcoin is in the position where it is, it will not be possible to get big profits like before. OG investors of everything can enjoy very big profits. The same has happened in the case of Bitcoin. However, if you hold a few circles of Bitcoin, you can definitely expect 8-10x profit from it if someone can hold their Bitcoin for 12 years. It may be possible to get more profit from other coins, but the risk will also be much higher, but in the case of Bitcoin, the risk is much lower.

We can almost certainly assume that the price of Bitcoin will continue to rise at an increasing rate from the current level. If you keep saving regularly for 3 cycles of 12 years, you can accumulate a holding and the unit price will show an average. For sure, the DCA strategy for saving Bitcoin is a great one that can provide high profits with the increase in the holdings in your portfolio. I agree with you that if someone keeps saving Bitcoin from the current time and can do it continuously for three cycles, he will be able to make a profit of 8 -10 x.

[tvplus006]

...I'm not sure if the 4 years cycle will be a thing anymore, we haven't had bull run ever since the last one, altcoins are stuck, maybe institutional doesn't trust these cons again unlike then when everyone can make that profit in less than 4 years.

The four-year cycle is determined by the period between bitcoin halvings, and in the current cryptocurrency market, this applies not only to BTC, but also to all altcoins. The dominance of bitcoin remains, which indicates that BTC enjoys the greatest trust.

[GIF-JOBS]

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

In the case of investing in Bitcoin, though each person determines a period as a long-term investment, I think that the period in which the investment can be profitable should be considered. In the case of ordinary Bitcoin, I consider a period of at least 4 to 10 years as a long-term investment because at least one cycle will be found during this period. Those who hold Bitcoin for up to one cycle will have possibility to make profit and who hold it for longer will see their returns increase further.

I totally agree with you, the longer you hold an investment, the greater and deeper your chances of success will be, an investor should always think long term as much as possible, history shows that those who have held for at least one cycle have made very good profits since then. So patience is the greatest strength here, Bitcoin will not let anyone down in the long run, it has always been valuable in the long run, so it is necessary to think long term here, thinking about short term Bitcoin investment will only bring losses, so if you can be patient for 4 to 10 years or more, then the potential profit not only increases, but also creates a great opportunity for financial freedom.

[WatChe]

You can see Bitcoin has done 1000x in the last few years but it's likely going to reduce over time because the value is getting bigger and the more it get bigger the more it chance of doing more reduce but will continue to grow, the people that will enjoy this are people that has money because if you have 1 Bitcoin and the market do 2x, that's a big money compare to a person that invested 1000 to another coin that did 10x with high risk. I feel things has change here about time of investment.

The price of Bitcoin is 115k and anyone who invest right now and want to double his investment must have to wait till bitcoin goes to 230k. We are seeing cases, where whales are selling there Bitcoins very recently that are bought during Satoshi era. But that doesn't mean we should lose heart and stop investing in Bitcoin. It's just speculation that it will take time for Bitcoin to make it to 200k and above. In reality, no one knows what Bitcoin price will be in coming 10 years, may be we were saying by that time that in 2025 Bitcoin was very cheap.

[Crypto Library]

It has been so dramatic with how we define the duration for long time investment. Everyone have their own view of how they think their patient or investment plans can sustain them all the while.
Some foresee the least 4 years some foresees 8 years and above to be a long term plans but yet, some says either 4 to 8 years is not enough to be long term plans but 10 years and above.
I think this is a psychological matter where your emotions and your alternative source of income flows have to determine your goals and as well your time of holding before taking a sells decision.

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

I basically always try to invest in Bitcoin long term by focusing on Bitcoin halving. For example, previous bull seasons emerged a year after Bitcoin halving and the situation is similar today.
And this time is basically for selling the Bitcoin I am holding. And after the bull season ends, I wait for the bear season to come and then I resell the amount of Bitcoin I sold. In this way, I basically end one part of my long-term holding and as another part, I invest regularly in Bitcoin with the DCA strategy, this is again for a minimum of 10 years.

[Lanatsa]

You may be right. The recommended time frame for Bitcoin accumulation is usually two or three cycles. I think it's a matter of goals and mindset. That's what I want to achieve with my capital. You should have a discretionary fund allocated to Bitcoin while you have an income stream. accumulation with an investment goal can show you responsible behavior because you currently have a source of income and you are accumulating Bitcoin from it, but you may not have this source of income in the future. You should keep holding Bitcoin to be financially independent in the future.

3 Circles means 12 years. If someone can hold their Bitcoin for 12 years, then they will undoubtedly get several times the profit. Looking at the history of Bitcoin in the last 12 years, we can see that the price of Bitcoin has increased hundreds of times, but now Bitcoin is in the position where it is, it will not be possible to get big profits like before. OG investors of everything can enjoy very big profits. The same has happened in the case of Bitcoin. However, if you hold a few circles of Bitcoin, you can definitely expect 8-10x profit from it if someone can hold their Bitcoin for 12 years. It may be possible to get more profit from other coins, but the risk will also be much higher, but in the case of Bitcoin, the risk is much lower.

We can almost certainly assume that the price of Bitcoin will continue to rise at an increasing rate from the current level. If you keep saving regularly for 3 cycles of 12 years, you can accumulate a holding and the unit price will show an average. For sure, the DCA strategy for saving Bitcoin is a great one that can provide high profits with the increase in the holdings in your portfolio. I agree with you that if someone keeps saving Bitcoin from the current time and can do it continuously for three cycles, he will be able to make a profit of 8 -10 x.

Bitcoin is growing in popularity and more investors are entering but the total supply never changes it stays capped and every halving reduces the rewards miners get which makes the flow of new coins even smaller. this scarcity is one of the main reasons people keep believing in long term growth because basic economics says when supply is fixed and demand rises the price has no choice but to climb. If you look back at previous halvings the price always made big moves compared to before and awareness is much higher now than it was years ago. more people are learning about bitcoin understanding its value and treating it as a store of wealth which naturally adds to demand.holding bitcoin with a time frame of two or three full cycles really puts things into perspective because it shifts the focus away from short term swings and into long term wealth building. three cycles means around 12 years and if someone has the discipline to keep accumulating and not panic sell then history already shows what the outcome can be.

The earlier days of bitcoin gave massive gains that new investors today can’t expect anymore since the base price is much higher now but that doesn’t erase the potential. an 8 to 10x over a decade is still incredible compared to most traditional investments and the risk profile of bitcoin is lower than chasing small altcoins that might vanish. Having a steady income stream and setting aside a discretionary fund to accumulate bitcoin makes the process sustainable because you’re not betting everything, you’re just turning part of your earnings into long term savings. that approach not only builds holdings but also makes sure you won’t regret the decision even if the market goes through corrections. DCA is the simplest but strongest way to do this because it smooths out the price, takes away the stress of timing, and leaves you with a strong average position when the cycles play out. anyone who can stay consistent through three cycles has a very high chance of ending with life changing returns.

[stadus]

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

In the case of investing in Bitcoin, though each person determines a period as a long-term investment, I think that the period in which the investment can be profitable should be considered. In the case of ordinary Bitcoin, I consider a period of at least 4 to 10 years as a long-term investment because at least one cycle will be found during this period. Those who hold Bitcoin for up to one cycle will have possibility to make profit and who hold it for longer will see their returns increase further.

That only means that the longer you dare to hold your bitcoin, the more massive your profits will be. So in that case, why not hold your coins forever, or as long as you’re capable and suitable to invest? Do not just set fixed number of years, because you never know you can still do something better and make bigger profits if you just continue hodling on. But never forget to sell portion of your coins as well, because those profits will definitely keep you moving forward on your investment.

[Localhostspeed]

...I'm not sure if the 4 years cycle will be a thing anymore, we haven't had bull run ever since the last one, altcoins are stuck, maybe institutional doesn't trust these cons again unlike then when everyone can make that profit in less than 4 years.

The four-year cycle is determined by the period between bitcoin halvings, and in the current cryptocurrency market, this applies not only to BTC, but also to all altcoins. The dominance of bitcoin remains, which indicates that BTC enjoys the greatest trust.

The Bitcoin dominance has remain the same for long time, it need to reduce so that altcoins can climb and makes some moves for investors but it can't happen yet until the institutional investors are ready to buy them. The way altcoins are moving, only selected altcoins are making moves, the rest are doing profits and loss since Rte beginning of this year.

If one altcoin is able to pump and people make money from that coin, the rest of the coins are going to move. We need to believe in altcoins again but the bad side of this is you don't know if altcoins are going to dump later, nobody wants to lose thier money.

[lionheart78]

So to you all, when is actually the timing limit for long term investment plans when invest on bitcoin?

If you really wanted to have a huge profit in your Bitcoin investment, the timing limit for long-term investment plans is the longer the better.  The more cycles a Bitcoin investment undergoes, the bigger the profit it can give.  We can verify this through the history of Bitcoin price ATH. 

So if you are not in a rush, I suggest holding your BTC  for as long as possible until you think you are satisfied with the profit.