How to send 0.0000004 BTC?

[corel]

Either way, this is ridiculous, unless he is trying to create his own service that will be able to achieve that. I've not seen a service going that low.

Unfortunately, there are services that do not disdain this and extorts you to send them that dust. One seemingly respectable platform does just that. Here I completely agree with you again, this is ridiculous. I've not seen too a service going that low

[Charles-Tim]

Unfortunately, there are services that do not disdain this and extorts you to send them that dust. One seemingly respectable platform does just that. Here I completely agree with you again, this is ridiculous. I've not seen too a service going that low

There are services that can use small amount of money to make you prove that you are human or that you are serious. I have even seen some services that will send you back the money.

A good example is this forum that blacklist some IPs. Anyone that uses the IP to create account on this forum will pay evil fee. Do not be surprised if the evil fee is as low as 40 sats at times.

[corel]

There are services that can use small amount of money to make you prove that you are human or that you are serious. I have even seen some services that will send you back the money.

A good example is this forum that blacklist some IPs. Anyone that uses the IP to create account on this forum will pay evil fee. Do not be surprised if the evil fee is as low as 40 sats at times.

Are you sure you mean cryptocurrency sites with serious techies. Who know everything about transactions? Because demanding a transfer of 40 sats that is technically impossible to send - says that the one who demands it is an absolutely incompetent schoolboy

Proofs that dust sending is impossible:
These respected users said that sending such dust is impossible and I believe them:

Bitcoin have something called dust limit. It prevent many wallet from letting sending such small amount to other address and some nodes wouldn't relay such transaction.

No, most of the nodes will not accept such transaction because it would be seen as dust.

No wallet will allow this.

Before people answer you, I think you should tell us why you are sending such a ridiculously low amount (≈$0.044).

Here I completely agree with you, this is an absolutely ridiculously stupid low amount.

I see this as a joke, to be honest, it doesn't make any sense from every angle.

Here I completely agree with you again. If a service extorts dust that is impossible to send, then it is better to spit on this service, which is what I will do and I recommend it to everyone who also will encounters the same dust extortion. Such dust sending demands looks more like either someone's joke or trolling

At least you need to send an amount higher than them before the transaction can be broadcasted. They are a very low amount of money that is not up to $1.

I'd rather not send anything to that dust extorting service. They don't deserve even a cent.

You just opened my eyes to the truth. If a service extorts such ridiculous things, it means it is a going down crap

Thanks to everyone for the answers and saved me from sending the depot to a service that does not deserve it. 0.0000004 BTC is unsendable sum. These are some kind of ridiculous trolls not a service. (Very respectable top site among crypto entusiasts. And these trolls own a top crypto site and don't even know that it's technically impossible to send such dust which speaks about the extreme incompetence of these schoolboys)

[Ruttoshi]

Thanks to everyone for the answers and saved me from sending the depot to a service that does not deserve it. 0.0000004 BTC is unsendable sum. These are some kind of ridiculous trolls not a service. (Very respectable top site among crypto entusiasts. And these trolls own a top crypto site and don't even know that it's technically impossible to send such dust which speaks about the extreme incompetence of these schoolboys)

Some of these services know what they're doing, it's either they want to use that dust transaction for their own selfish interests and need someone to do it for them. However, why did you wanted to use their service when you can send bitcoin out from your own self custody wallet by yourself.

Dust transaction can be sent by scammers into your wallet and use it to compromise your wallet if you don't freeze it. Be careful with the services you are using online and verify before using them. You can't send such an amount.

[nc50lc]

Thanks to everyone for the answers and saved me from sending the depot to a service that does not deserve it. 0.0000004 BTC is unsendable sum. These are some kind of ridiculous trolls not a service. (Very respectable top site among crypto entusiasts. And these trolls own a top crypto site and don't even know that it's technically impossible to send such dust which speaks about the extreme incompetence of these schoolboys)

We have a "Reputation" board here in the forum, link: /index.php?board=129.0

If you think that the service deserves a minor stain on their reputation, you may post a new topic in that board including the full detail of the situation.
People there are usually good on judging whether you claims are valid or not.
(or if you post the service's name here, that could shed a light on what's actually happening)

But take note that such issue isn't qualified for a negative rating in case they have a Bitcointalk profile.

[corel]

Thanks to everyone for the answers and saved me from sending the depot to a service that does not deserve it. 0.0000004 BTC is unsendable sum. These are some kind of ridiculous trolls not a service. (Very respectable top site among crypto entusiasts. And these trolls own a top crypto site and don't even know that it's technically impossible to send such dust which speaks about the extreme incompetence of these schoolboys)

We have a "Reputation" board here in the forum, link: /index.php?board=129.0

If you think that the service deserves a minor stain on their reputation, you may post a new topic in that board including the full detail of the situation.
People there are usually good on judging whether you claims are valid or not.
(or if you post the service's name here, that could shed a light on what's actually happening)

But take note that such issue isn't qualified for a negative rating in case they have a Bitcointalk profile.

Why are you offtopic? Did I ask you anything about other forum sections?

I am not interested in other sections of the forum. I am only interested in the point within this topic to which I have already received an answer.

Why should I create an additional topic at "reputation" there if I have already received all the answers to my question (that sending such a dust is not possible)

And you got your answers. You wanted to know for what dust sending is needed. I answered you. And you took it and turned it into the main thread of the discussion. This is already off-topic and a deviation from the topic framework.

And your advice to create a topic in the Reputation section is even more off-topic, which is a derivative of the sucked-out demand of users to say "why should I send such ridiculous dust"

[examplens]

Bitcoin have something called dust limit. It prevent many wallet from letting sending such small amount to other address and some nodes wouldn't relay such transaction. Maybe you want to tell us your goal since it sounds like you fall into XY problem.

The OP mentions the faucet. It would be interesting to see how much the fee would be on 40 satoshi's which are actually from 10-15 small transactions.

Do you think it's possible to collect dust on bitcoin faucets and then send it?

Faucets often have a minimum withdrawal limit, 1000 satoshi's for example, or they use some of the micro wallet payment platforms.

[nc50lc]

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Why should I create an additional topic at "reputation" there if I have already received all the answers to my question (that sending such a dust is not possible)

It's just your last post contains rants (big-bold texts) that could use some clarification.
Disclosing the service's name would also help others to stay away from the service before they even think of using it.

And lastly, the verdict is almost one-sided where it's not known if it's actually asking for on-chain transaction where it's really not "standard" to send lower than dust or something else where it's possible.

It's just a suggestion though, you can ignore it if you don't want to.

[corel]

It's just your last post contains rants big-bold texts that could use some clarification.

You are off-topic again. Read the question in the thread and focus on it, not on your personal preferences in font size.

Disclosing the service's name would also help others to stay away from the service before they even think of using it.

You are off-topic again. Read the question in the thread and focus on it, not on your personal suggestions what I should to do on another forum sections. I didn't ask you for advice on which section of the forum I should go to in order to complain about this crypto-site which lures out dust

Maybe you want to tell us your goal

Do you have any reason to move a dust ?

What would it be for?

I'm also curious to know the motivations to send such a small amount of sats to another wallet. without the intention of questioning or judging, OP, but could you clarify our doubts?

Why are you answering a question with a question? The topic contains a clear and simple question. And you are answering by offtopic answer

1) I am asked: "How to send 0.0000004 BTC?"
2) Smart people here have already answered: "It's impossible."
3) But some offtopic users continue to answer questions like a parrot: "For what, For what, For what?"
4) I satisfied curiosity of these parrots and answer them "For what?"
5) But these parrots were not satisfied with my answer, which they so passionately lured out, and now they have a new amusement: "What kind of service is this? What kind of service is this? What kind of service is this?"

Parrots, please don't write here anymore. I don't need your offtopic here. My question concerned only the technical possibility of sending this small amount. But for "what purpose" and "what site required such small ridiculous amount" as EarnOnVictor said - is not the point  here and, moreover, is offtopic, since it deviates from the given topic

[nc50lc]

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2) Smart people here have already answered: "It's impossible."

Parrots, please don't write here anymore. I don't need your offtopic here. My question concerned only the technical possibility of sending this small amount.

Speaking of technical possibilities, you got the wrong answer.
My last "off-topic" reply has a clue on it, I though you'd notice since you seem confident to know the right answers despite being the one who's asking.

You see, I mentioned "standard" there.
Meaning, it's not a "consensus rule" that every Bitcoin node enforce, it's just a policy that's set by a config.
The values that are presented to you are based from the default setting (3000sat/kvB or 3sat/vB x UTXO's projected input vsize) which is mostly likely used by the majority of the nodes.
The setting is based of: github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/policy/policy.h#L59-L64
Which can be set as --dustrelayfee command line arg or dustrelayfee=<sat/kvB> config in bitcoin.conf file to a lower value than the default.
With that, it's a matter of finding the right peers and miners that has lower settings for it to get relayed and mined.
In short, it's not impossible but rather, very hard to achieve.

And there's lightning network where the service can request such dust amount of BTC.

Anyways, I wont be bothering you anymore.
Cheers.

[ABCbits]

2) Smart people here have already answered: "It's impossible."

My question concerned only the technical possibility of sending this small amount.

I'll just give the technical answer you need, it's possible despite being difficult and considered not practical. You'll need to,
1. Find mining pool that accept such transaction. For example, MARA Slipstream.
2. Find wallet which let you create transaction where it send very small amount of Bitcoin to other address.
3. Create the transaction and get it's raw transaction.
4. Submit the raw transaction to the mining pool.

[LoyceV]

2. Find wallet which let you create transaction where it send very small amount of Bitcoin to other address.

That's the easy part: Electrum can do it with the right settings.

3. Create the transaction and get it's raw transaction.

Done! This transaction sends 4 sats to your addy my own address:

Code:

0200000000010176fc071f2bb6c0b2e5a40c24d2190742e569f8cc4950b2f750489b95b25b36420000000000fdffffff0204000000000000001600141653fddbe357eb66cac6af6cf57a5841e58846e9a3010000000000001600145be25692d1e68c53457454d8f6bbd96390a977ce024730440220070ee867dffc8e4a1774df4ff0a59d208cb136206118840b3a5d8e16890914e202201a6a4ff0d63f13558cbdf95fe84e0368b8c9de1e0c4d08f7861c73bb4116b54d012103eafe50e2f369aea45e2c896043097edd18dde48476fd5994e51966d608303970f2ee0d00

4. Submit the raw transaction to the mining pool.

I don't have high hopes, but I'll just click "Broadcast" to my own Electrum server:

Code:

Transaction could not be broadcast due to dust outputs.

I haven't changed the dust-default on my server.

Let's try mempool.space/tx/push:

Code:

Failed to broadcast transaction, reason: dust, tx with dust output must be 0-fee

Interesting! Let's try that:

Code:

0200000000010176fc071f2bb6c0b2e5a40c24d2190742e569f8cc4950b2f750489b95b25b36420000000000fdffffff0204000000000000001600141653fddbe357eb66cac6af6cf57a5841e58846e9c6010000000000001600145be25692d1e68c53457454d8f6bbd96390a977ce02473044022069ad926956f931103033df65baedd925a06c2880fad83b3819015139190f3d5802206485227ba2a30fdd2c538145d3de3e7d308118ea0810a58382f979418e2dd802012103eafe50e2f369aea45e2c896043097edd18dde48476fd5994e51966d608303970f3ee0d00

That's disappointing:

Code:

Failed to broadcast transaction, reason: min relay fee not met, 0 < 15

Feel free to try to broadcast this transaction anywhere

[ABCbits]

--snip--
Feel free to try to broadcast this transaction anywhere

Your raw TX have fee rate 0.25 sat/vB and 0 fee, while MARA Slipstream[1] currently only accept TX with fee rate at least 6 sat/vB. Unfortunately i don't other whether other mining pool offer similar service, let alone accepting TX with such low fee rate. ViaBTC[2] require you to enter TX ID rather than raw TX, so it wouldn't work for OP's case.

[1] https://slipstream.mara.com/
[2] https://www.viabtc.com/en/tools/txaccelerator/

[LoyceV]

MARA Slipstream[1] currently only accept TX with fee rate at least 6 sat/vB.

My dust wallet doesn't have enough funds for that, and I'm not going to burn any real funds for this experiment (as that would just be pointless). So it ends here

[stwenhao]

Code:

decoderawtransaction 0200000000010176fc071f2bb6c0b2e5a40c24d2190742e569f8cc4950b2f750489b95b25b36420000000000fdffffff0204000000000000001600141653fddbe357eb66cac6af6cf57a5841e58846e9c6010000000000001600145be25692d1e68c53457454d8f6bbd96390a977ce02473044022069ad926956f931103033df65baedd925a06c2880fad83b3819015139190f3d5802206485227ba2a30fdd2c538145d3de3e7d308118ea0810a58382f979418e2dd802012103eafe50e2f369aea45e2c896043097edd18dde48476fd5994e51966d608303970f3ee0d00
{
  "txid": "c17c66304921facf2434022eb4c17098f888b99f1d5e27732e9ffb448c38fb18",
  "hash": "ec1742e25c7a896a8aa8adb4e485d9861cc540387b33293328ad1f3d946d9c43",
  "version": 2,
  "size": 222,
  "vsize": 141,
  "weight": 561,
  "locktime": 913139,
  "vin": [
    {
      "txid": "42365bb2959b4850f7b25049ccf869e5420719d2240ca4e5b2c0b62b1f07fc76",
      "vout": 0,
      "scriptSig": {
        "asm": "",
        "hex": ""
      },
      "txinwitness": [
        "3044022069ad926956f931103033df65baedd925a06c2880fad83b3819015139190f3d5802206485227ba2a30fdd2c538145d3de3e7d308118ea0810a58382f979418e2dd80201",
        "03eafe50e2f369aea45e2c896043097edd18dde48476fd5994e51966d608303970"
      ],
      "sequence": 4294967293
    }
  ],
  "vout": [
    {
      "value": 0.00000004,
      "n": 0,
      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "0 1653fddbe357eb66cac6af6cf57a5841e58846e9",
        "desc": "addr(bc1qzeflmklr2l4kdjkx4ak027jcg8jcs3hfne4fqy)#5x94fx5k",
        "hex": "00141653fddbe357eb66cac6af6cf57a5841e58846e9",
        "address": "bc1qzeflmklr2l4kdjkx4ak027jcg8jcs3hfne4fqy",
        "type": "witness_v0_keyhash"
      }
    },
    {
      "value": 0.00000454,
      "n": 1,
      "scriptPubKey": {
        "asm": "0 5be25692d1e68c53457454d8f6bbd96390a977ce",
        "desc": "addr(bc1qt039dyk3u6x9x3t52nv0dw7evwg2ja7w05gx3v)#j6zv845c",
        "hex": "00145be25692d1e68c53457454d8f6bbd96390a977ce",
        "address": "bc1qt039dyk3u6x9x3t52nv0dw7evwg2ja7w05gx3v",
        "type": "witness_v0_keyhash"
      }
    }
  ]
}

Few things:
1. You set it to 0.00000004 BTC, instead of 0.00000040 BTC.
2. You used SIGHASH_ALL, so that nobody can join the challenge.

How to fix it? Just prepare something like that:

Code:

createrawtransaction '[{"txid":"42365bb2959b4850f7b25049ccf869e5420719d2240ca4e5b2c0b62b1f07fc76","vout":0}]' '[{"bc1qzeflmklr2l4kdjkx4ak027jcg8jcs3hfne4fqy":0.00000040},{"bc1qt039dyk3u6x9x3t52nv0dw7evwg2ja7w05gx3v":0.00000418}]' 0 true
020000000176fc071f2bb6c0b2e5a40c24d2190742e569f8cc4950b2f750489b95b25b36420000000000fdffffff0228000000000000001600141653fddbe357eb66cac6af6cf57a5841e58846e9a2010000000000001600145be25692d1e68c53457454d8f6bbd96390a977ce00000000
signrawtransactionwithkey "020000000176fc071f2bb6c0b2e5a40c24d2190742e569f8cc4950b2f750489b95b25b36420000000000fdffffff0228000000000000001600141653fddbe357eb66cac6af6cf57a5841e58846e9a2010000000000001600145be25692d1e68c53457454d8f6bbd96390a977ce00000000" '["privatekey"]' '[{"txid":"42365bb2959b4850f7b25049ccf869e5420719d2240ca4e5b2c0b62b1f07fc76","vout":0,"scriptPubKey":"001439fd8effbf7b48dbb63a4ee8d732210a5c56db89","amount":0.00000458}]' "ALL|ANYONECANPAY"

Then, your transaction will still have zero fees, but other people will be able to add more inputs, and make it valid.

[corel]

At the moment I don't know which wallet to use. Tell me please which wallet should I use? Which will allow me to send 0.0000004 BTC.

You can try using SafePal wallet from where you can deposit your specified amount of BTC to another address.

Tell me please  which wallets support this customizing?

SafePal Wallet, Trustlet supports customization here where you can fully customize the mempool and reduce fees. I will show you through a screenshot so you can try it out.

Has anyone succeeded in doing this? Is this feasible what Powerjumboo wrote?