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September 11, 2025, 03:30:41 PM
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To be honest, there are lots of folks who'd be willing to sacrifice their privacy and chase huge profits regardless of revealing their identity and documents for KYC but then looking at how stressful several casinos have made the process and how some still seize customers withdrawal after the very stressful KYC process, I think there's many like me who wouldn't want to go through that stressful process after winning huge profits and rather pick a private casino with lesser profit withdrawal. Maybe, If the KYC process isn't stressful and a casino is transparent and allow customers to withdraw very huge money after KYC then I'll consider the one that allows withdrawal of huge profits.
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September 11, 2025, 03:35:40 PM
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Would you rather play in a casino where you win a lot and big ones too but has strict KYC implementation and is a headache to actually cash out from or play in a casino with no KYC, totally private and secure but doesn’t let you win a lot?

I know that in casinos, there’s not much difference between rates of winning because it’s random but hypothetically which one is more important for you? Profit or Privacy?

KYC only needs to be done once, so once you've done it at a casino, there won't be any withdrawal issues. There's no reason to look for another casino, for example, that doesn't require KYC. KYC is also required when you make a deposit or when you've reached a certain level. So, is it possible that players will choose not to do KYC and move to a casino that doesn't require KYC even though they've already reached a certain level at that casino? I do not think so, and i feel more and more players are finally accepting KYC, even though it's still unpleasant.

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September 11, 2025, 04:23:21 PM
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I think it was before that people gambled for fun, not now that everybody's eyes have opened about money, and even before, is only a few I can say that gambled just for fun since not everyone could afford to lose their money, but now some people are even staying away from gambling just because of the risks, like the risks that are involved in gambling are increasing every day. That’s why even the number of those who gamble just for fun is reducing; they are not functioning anymore.

I do not agree with what you have said about the fact that people are staying away from gambling. One of the online dailies reported the sudden increase in the gambling rate in the world, and this article shows statistics of "younger people betting more in this dispensation" than before.

Currently, you rarely see a gambler who gambles for fun except for a well-to-do person who doesn't bother much about income when they have a good source of income for themselves, but the average gambler has the target of making a profit, and these are the sets of gamblers who turn addicts because of their perspective on gambling.

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September 11, 2025, 05:14:07 PM
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Would you rather play in a casino where you win a lot and big ones too but has strict KYC implementation and is a headache to actually cash out from or play in a casino with no KYC, totally private and secure but doesn’t let you win a lot?

I know that in casinos, there’s not much difference between rates of winning because it’s random but hypothetically which one is more important for you? Profit or Privacy?
People get scared of KYC when they know that their identity can be used against them. But when it doesn't, people will be free to have their identity revealed.

Having myself in a casino that has a big chance of winning each time I play, passing their KYC first before withdrawing the money won, I wouldn't see it as a problem so far, my identity will not be used against me or sold out to criminals.

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September 11, 2025, 05:24:45 PM
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Would you rather play in a casino where you win a lot and big ones too but has strict KYC implementation and is a headache to actually cash out from or play in a casino with no KYC, totally private and secure but doesn’t let you win a lot?

I know that in casinos, there’s not much difference between rates of winning because it’s random but hypothetically which one is more important for you? Profit or Privacy?

In my opinion, since regulators demand ID checks and VASPs must adhere to AML regulations, it is preferable to select KYC &  licensed platform if you truly want to win large & have legal recourse. I always love NoKYC casinos, although they may seem private, no-KYC casinos have a higher risk of scams & exits, are less protected by the law & occasionally block or lose payouts.  remember freebitco.in?? they climb up top of the reputation suddenly exit scam. you should accept that there are lower limits & greater risks if privacy is truly important to you. So I will prefer provably-fair on-chain sites to stay safe..

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September 11, 2025, 05:46:50 PM
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People get scared of KYC when they know that their identity can be used against them. But when it doesn't, people will be free to have their identity revealed.

Having myself in a casino that has a big chance of winning each time I play, passing their KYC first before withdrawing the money won, I wouldn't see it as a problem so far, my identity will not be used against me or sold out to criminals.

That is if it goes swiftly and easy for the gamer to run those verifications. Most times when the KYC is needed after winning big, the process gets longer and may not be resolved and according to the narratives of the Op, a casinos that consistently offers winning may be escaping bankruptcy through making the KYC verification a headache for the winner. Because when they always payout it could be detrimentry to the house, financially.

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September 11, 2025, 05:47:49 PM
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This ToS of common casinos lately i think every gamblers know about that and KYC only exceptional to those who only gets big win and as long as the players won with honest i think the casinos will verify the KYC with very fast and the players can able to received their money so this is only the regular process and if the players won with clean way i don't think they should be fear with this process and for me personally if someday i have experience won with big amount of money then i willing to accept this requirements that because for some case i will support if this is mandatory especially to verified the account

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September 11, 2025, 05:56:46 PM
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I’m not a criminal so i don’t really have a problem passing the KYC requirement. As a gambler my goal is to win, so obviously i’d play in a casino where i can win, and i’m sure my requirements will pass since they’re authentic.

At the end of the day there’s no point for a gambler, whatever platform it is, if you’re not winning.
It’s just a waste of time and money, why even bother.

Every gambler prioritizes winning but privacy and security Is very important. You don't have issues with KYC requirements thats good, but it's not only about having issues. What if that casino you get winnings from doesn't take KYC seriously which allows people to hack into it easily. Even though it seems like that chances of this happening is low there's a possibility to it. If it happens your wins can be stolen from you

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September 11, 2025, 11:05:22 PM
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Would you rather play in a casino where you win a lot and big ones too but has strict KYC implementation and is a headache to actually cash out from or play in a casino with no KYC, totally private and secure but doesn’t let you win a lot?

I know that in casinos, there’s not much difference between rates of winning because it’s random but hypothetically which one is more important for you? Profit or Privacy?

I consider myself a casual gambler with little or no expectation to get a significant amount of money from a casino any time soon, in general I am pessimistic with comes to my luck, so I would not say I would prioritize profits, since I am not counting on them happening any time soon.
Though, I also think the key when comes to casinos is getting a balance between respect for privacy, fairness and liquidity, so they can reassure a quick withdrawal of our money in the case of a win. But talking about profit as something which is certain it is kind of illogical when we talk about gambling, it is a tricky question in my opinion.

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September 12, 2025, 03:01:08 AM
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Would you rather play in a casino where you win a lot and big ones too but has strict KYC implementation and is a headache to actually cash out from or play in a casino with no KYC, totally private and secure but doesn’t let you win a lot?

I know that in casinos, there’s not much difference between rates of winning because it’s random but hypothetically which one is more important for you? Profit or Privacy?

I consider myself a casual gambler with little or no expectation to get a significant amount of money from a casino any time soon, in general I am pessimistic with comes to my luck, so I would not say I would prioritize profits, since I am not counting on them happening any time soon.
Though, I also think the key when comes to casinos is getting a balance between respect for privacy, fairness and liquidity, so they can reassure a quick withdrawal of our money in the case of a win. But talking about profit as something which is certain it is kind of illogical when we talk about gambling, it is a tricky question in my opinion.
This is how we should think about fairness in gambling. I think the same way and focus more on the possibility of losing when gambling. Although I try my best to win every game. When I start playing in casinos, I prefer to rely on luck to reduce the excitement because I know that most of the time the experience is worthless.

I don't take fairness seriously from the casino developers because they are trying to make money from you instead of having fun.

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Would you rather play in a casino where you win a lot and big ones too but has strict KYC implementation and is a headache to actually cash out from or play in a casino with no KYC, totally private and secure but doesn’t let you win a lot?

I know that in casinos, there’s not much difference between rates of winning because it’s random but hypothetically which one is more important for you? Profit or Privacy?

Id rather have to deal with the kyc and win a lot. Im sure its a hassle but it definitely beats not winning lol.  Also I would prefer to be in a live casino if I can help it but ill settle for some online poker here and there

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September 12, 2025, 04:35:04 AM
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Everyone starts out playing for fun and profit. Of course, they look for a safe and comfortable platform, meaning a trustworthy one, even though they must adhere to the terms and conditions outlined on the platform.

Regardless of the game, especially online, withdrawals are crucial. While the privacy of our KYC data is at risk of being misused, the reality is that most people willingly follow these rules. If they don't, withdrawals won't be possible. I think this is similar to registering on an exchange and requiring KYC, otherwise withdrawals won't be possible.

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Reason I won't go for privacy is that in this world, no one is really living a private life, people know you just as you also know people, if you operate a local bank account, they have almost all your private information already, if you work for or with a company, the company has a good information about you, if you are running your own business, you have customers who know at least, your real name, your phone number, your business address, the type of car you own, and maybe some of them might even know your wife and kids, this is why I said no one is really living a private life..
None of that relates to the issue at hand or the casino. A bank has basic information of your existence, and these days it is an utility. Do you think that providing the required information to receive a connection to the electrical grid is a compromise of privacy? Roll Eyes The fact that there is proof that you exist does not mean that your privacy is compromised. Submitting KYC to private companies that are not utilities is something else entirely, especially ones where a lot of data can be mined from your behavior. You can avoid using banks for anything non mandatory. You can't avoid playing in a casino if you want to gamble in that casino. Have you not learned anything from Snowden?

Privacy is not about hiding that you exist at all, that is a misunderstanding regarding what privacy is about. Many people lead different degrees of private lives, some more private than others.

You will regret your comments someday when you will need to submit KYC to access a search engine and when they monitor every written word on your computer and punish you accordingly.  At that point it will be too late though. Smiley

It's obvious that you are the idiot here, @FiveStar4EverMVP thinks the same way like I do, it shows that I am not an idiot, I'm guessing you can't call him an idiot for a reason only known to you or maybe you are scared of him since he is a legendary member lol.

The privacy you seek for, either it's personal privacy or the Internet privacy will not work 100% like you intended, get used to it, this is why many casinos start asking for KYC information after few years of running without asking anyone for KYC information.

The world will be a huge messed up space if everyone is given the privilege to keep everything private, let's say twitter is an anonymous platform, saw what those evil people said about the assassination of Charlie kirk? Few of them lost their jobs already, you would say that's because their information is on their profiles, no one will know them if it's anonymous, this is how pedophiles will run free too, even your daughters won't be safe.

That privacy part exactly, if you have good intent for your own sake what about the high numbers of evil people in the world today? You think they think the same way as you do? If you are appointed to become a leader of a state, maybe a governor and crime rates are increasing, what would you do if those criminals can't be brought to justice because the cops and FBI can't seem to find any clue about them all because there are privacy ways of communication or keeping data safe? It won't work.

Take it or leave it, that's your problem, I dare you to make privacy work in any way and let's see, it is IMPOSSIBLE, and good luck with your delusional privacy dream, it's never going to come true.



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September 12, 2025, 10:58:45 AM
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People get scared of KYC when they know that their identity can be used against them. But when it doesn't, people will be free to have their identity revealed.

Having myself in a casino that has a big chance of winning each time I play, passing their KYC first before withdrawing the money won, I wouldn't see it as a problem so far, my identity will not be used against me or sold out to criminals.

That is if it goes swiftly and easy for the gamer to run those verifications. Most times when the KYC is needed after winning big, the process gets longer and may not be resolved and according to the narratives of the Op, a casinos that consistently offers winning may be escaping bankruptcy through making the KYC verification a headache for the winner. Because when they always payout it could be detrimentry to the house, financially.

First, we also have to know that any casino that makes KYC verification very difficult for players would not have more customers comes to play in their casino except for newbies that doesn't know much about the casino but if the KYC issue is just something that doesn't take longer than weeks or months, then people can handle it because once you pass the KYC, you won't have to undergo such stress again but you will continue winning more often just as you have been winning even before doing the KYC.

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September 12, 2025, 11:13:37 AM
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Would you rather play in a casino where you win a lot and big ones too but has strict KYC implementation and is a headache to actually cash out from or play in a casino with no KYC, totally private and secure but doesn’t let you win a lot?

I know that in casinos, there’s not much difference between rates of winning because it’s random but hypothetically which one is more important for you? Profit or Privacy?
I have gave my KYC already to several companies, including casinos, so that's a no brainer to me. It's not a headache for me and imho this isn't a real issue anyway, because where are you even facing this kind of profit vs privacy issue?

And riddle me this: how would you be ensured that the non-kyc casino would be more secure just because it wouldn't have KYC? Because i would immediately think that non-kyc casinos would have more changes to exit scam then regulated casinos.

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Would you rather play in a casino where you win a lot and big ones too but has strict KYC implementation and is a headache to actually cash out from or play in a casino with no KYC, totally private and secure but doesn’t let you win a lot?

I know that in casinos, there’s not much difference between rates of winning because it’s random but hypothetically which one is more important for you? Profit or Privacy?

KYC only needs to be done once, so once you've done it at a casino, there won't be any withdrawal issues. There's no reason to look for another casino, for example, that doesn't require KYC. KYC is also required when you make a deposit or when you've reached a certain level. So, is it possible that players will choose not to do KYC and move to a casino that doesn't require KYC even though they've already reached a certain level at that casino? I do not think so, and i feel more and more players are finally accepting KYC, even though it's still unpleasant.

Well, I guess that's because of the increase in scam online casinos that's been coming out. People have seen from the news and streamers how they lose their money in a blink. That could be the reason behind the choice of the online casino with KYC requirements initially, but it's trustworthy and reputable.

I do the same and am still doing it now. I'd rather pick Stake.com over other online casinos, and I have already accepted the KYC requirement and filled it up. It's not like it's going to hurt my privacy that much because they also have a job to keep the information secure for their customers.

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September 12, 2025, 03:20:40 PM
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To be honest, there are lots of folks who'd be willing to sacrifice their privacy and chase huge profits regardless of revealing their identity and documents for KYC but then looking at how stressful several casinos have made the process and how some still seize customers withdrawal after the very stressful KYC process, I think there's many like me who wouldn't want to go through that stressful process after winning huge profits and rather pick a private casino with lesser profit withdrawal. Maybe, If the KYC process isn't stressful and a casino is transparent and allow customers to withdraw very huge money after KYC then I'll consider the one that allows withdrawal of huge profits.
KYC is no longer a thing to be scared of if you are a gambler because it's rare for you to see a casino that are fully on No KYC. I wouldn't use any casino that is not transparent and gives headache whenever there is a withdrawal request. Rather, I will prefer to gamble in an offline casino without any strictness. Why would it be very easy for deposits and withdrawal becomes a problem it's a red flag.

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September 12, 2025, 03:37:00 PM
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I have gave my KYC already to several companies, including casinos, so that's a no brainer to me. It's not a headache for me and imho this isn't a real issue anyway, because where are you even facing this kind of profit vs privacy issue?

And riddle me this: how would you be ensured that the non-kyc casino would be more secure just because it wouldn't have KYC? Because i would immediately think that non-kyc casinos would have more changes to exit scam then regulated casinos.
It's your right to give your KYC to anyone, including on the gambling platform, but being more selective would certainly be better to avoid data being used improperly.
This is everyone's privacy issue and for people who are reluctant to do KYC then they also have the right to stick to their principles.

Some casinos that implement KYC will also not guarantee anything, but if the casino has obtained a certificate and is legally operated that is supervised by the government, perhaps it will be safer.
Rather than just giving KYC to new casinos that we don't know about, non KYC casinos that provide a lot of bonuses but will also end up deceiving a lot of people.

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September 13, 2025, 04:37:55 AM
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I do not agree with what you have said about the fact that people are staying away from gambling. One of the online dailies reported the sudden increase in the gambling rate in the world, and this article shows statistics of "younger people betting more in this dispensation" than before.

Currently, you rarely see a gambler who gambles for fun except for a well-to-do person who doesn't bother much about income when they have a good source of income for themselves, but the average gambler has the target of making a profit, and these are the sets of gamblers who turn addicts because of their perspective on gambling.
It's not surprising, and it's not surprising, that so many online casinos are operating, and the number of addicted gamblers is increasing. It's a well-known fact that the more online casinos there are, the more enthusiasts there are. I've concluded that in my own community, there's quite a lot of interest in online gambling, not just from one group, but from all walks of life. Many people gamble to make money, so it's no surprise that many people are addicted.

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September 13, 2025, 10:52:49 AM
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Would you rather play in a casino where you win a lot and big ones too but has strict KYC implementation and is a headache to actually cash out from or play in a casino with no KYC, totally private and secure but doesn’t let you win a lot?

I know that in casinos, there’s not much difference between rates of winning because it’s random but hypothetically which one is more important for you? Profit or Privacy?
I have gave my KYC already to several companies, including casinos, so that's a no brainer to me. It's not a headache for me and imho this isn't a real issue anyway, because where are you even facing this kind of profit vs privacy issue?

And riddle me this: how would you be ensured that the non-kyc casino would be more secure just because it wouldn't have KYC? Because i would immediately think that non-kyc casinos would have more changes to exit scam then regulated casinos.

Exactly the point, this is not a real issue at all because KYC verification is not something that you will keep doing all the time when you want to withdraw from that casino. It's something that you only need to do once and regardless of the delay in the verification, after it has been passed, you have now have a free tickets to winning and making your withdrawal without stress, but I won't be that easy for casinos to allow people to just continue winning like that, unless they are not even going to allow the gamblers to withdraw that money.

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