The economy of having children

[Nahl]

Raising kids is very expensive especially the costs of school will be increasing for every year which makes the parents have to working hard to ensure they will be able to pay the bills of school these conditions makes some couples think maybe why they don't want to having childrens in their lifetime because they don't want their childrens will not receive a proper education because their financial condition

But mostly some parents feels having childrens is one of good way to out from poverty that because someday they hoping their childrens can be wealth and improved their financial condition and for some countries this became an common culture so, that's why when the people got married their goal is want to have kids but this is wrong because in reality i have seen some families struggle for their economy condition because having too many childrens

[Royal Cap]

Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

Well, I want to say here that if you think about the previous era, when there were no banks or savings, people used to earn money by working physically. So, earlier, people considered having a child as an investment because then they would get another worker to do their work.

But in today's world, considering having a child as an investment is completely foolish. Because if you don't have the proper money to raise a child, how do you expect your child to grow up very well. Finally, he will grow up with a lot of mental pain. So I think having a child as an investment can be counterproductive. However, having a child as an investment is more common in developing countries, I think it is most important to see a child as a child rather than as an investment management.

[CageMabok]

After reading many posts I have to agree with you because it's not a matter of poverty or anything else children always bring positive changes that are important for every human being this also gives good motivation to do hard work and enjoy life.
I am living here where things are below average but people have a good luxury of kids which brings them happiness and provides good encouragement even in difficult times.
In few countries, the mindset is changing and people are not feeling this way still, those who love children are doing their best for it. Many want to live without children, which is their right, but I always want to have kids around me for happiness and a good change in life.

If there are still people around you who don't want children, they probably don't want the hassle of raising their own children because they think raising them is too difficult. However, the reality is that I, who already have children, can still enjoy life while raising my children to adulthood and providing them with a decent education along the way. Because children are the future and also assets in the form of descendants in this life, so when we work hard, of course the dedication is for the children and also for ourselves because everything that is obtained in this world must be enjoyed perfectly with our beloved family.

[summonerrk]

In my country, it is pretty common for parents to have kids then think that their kids are their hope. That is because they get kids without being financially ready for it yet and then they just eventually hope that when their kids grow up they will be the ones to build wealth for them. But is having kids the reason why people end up financially worse over the years? Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

I understand the desire of such parents to see their children as a support in the future, but it all happens the other way around. It is better to raise one child and give him good food, clothes and education so that he will be a very smart person when he grows up. This is much better than having many children and not having time to look after them, including without the opportunity to give them an education and good things.
Children is a topic where quality is much more important than quantity.

[Lanatsa]

Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

Well, I want to say here that if you think about the previous era, when there were no banks or savings, people used to earn money by working physically. So, earlier, people considered having a child as an investment because then they would get another worker to do their work.

But in today's world, considering having a child as an investment is completely foolish. Because if you don't have the proper money to raise a child, how do you expect your child to grow up very well. Finally, he will grow up with a lot of mental pain. So I think having a child as an investment can be counterproductive. However, having a child as an investment is more common in developing countries, I think it is most important to see a child as a child rather than as an investment management.

Raising kids today is completely different from what it used to be back in the day people saw children as extra hands to work in the fields or support the family but in the modern world children require proper care education healthcare and opportunities and all of these things cost a lot of money. Thinking of kids as an investment is not just outdated it can also create unnecessary pressure on the child because instead of growing up freely they are forced to carry expectations of lifting the family out of hardship this can affect their confidence mental health and even the bond they share with their parents.

In developing countries this mindset still exists mainly because many families lack financial stability but in reality this cycle keeps poverty going if you bring kids into the world without the means to give them a decent life chances are they might end up struggling the same way their parents did. Children should be brought into the world because parents are ready to nurture them provide them with a stable environment and guide them toward building their own lives not because they are expected to be a financial plan for the future seeing kids as blessings means accepting responsibility to give them the best chance to succeed rather than expecting them to carry the burden of survival from the very beginning.

[amihada]

In my country, it is pretty common for parents to have kids then think that their kids are their hope. That is because they get kids without being financially ready for it yet and then they just eventually hope that when their kids grow up they will be the ones to build wealth for them. But is having kids the reason why people end up financially worse over the years? Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

The mindset of people in your country is exactly the same as the mindset of people in my area, they always say "many children, much fortune". Initially, this assumption contradicted my way of thinking. How could having many children bring more fortune? Shouldn't parents work extra hard to provide for all their children's needs?
This question has always been on my mind, and I've finally found the answer. Children are a blessing from God. As long as parents are willing to work hard to provide for them, money will always come from unexpected sources.

Parents always try hard so that their children's fate is not like theirs, they will do anything to finance their education so that they grow up as good individuals and can build wealth for themselves. The best investment for parents is when they successfully educate their children and see them succeed even though they were born into a poor family.

[TheUltraElite]

I think a family should have kids when they are able to sustain them and keep the number of kids limited to a maximum of two. However some people might not agree but I think just giving birth to too many kids unable to sustain even one properly hoping that either of them will be earning is a poor choice made. It is an irresponsible thing to do and that is why birth control and family planning are important.

Raise kids properly, educate them and help them reach their goals and get employment, that should be the long term goal.

[Hamza2424]

In my country, it is pretty common for parents to have kids then think that their kids are their hope. That is because they get kids without being financially ready for it yet and then they just eventually hope that when their kids grow up they will be the ones to build wealth for them. But is having kids the reason why people end up financially worse over the years? Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

This is so bad, the same trend is here in my country but not all of the people do this, those who have businesses and lot of wealth or those who don't want to be a weight on their kids and want to maintain their sovereignty by not depending on them they do not do this, they work hard and become a blessing for their kids they provide them everything and they make them stand up on their foots.

If the kids will be good ones they will support their parents without their parents asking them, most of the kids do that, their parents don't ask for anything form their kids but they do it for them, and I am using the word kids (even if they are not kids anymore because to them they are still kids.)

[Juicyhome]

Having kids is everyone one dream, but preparation is the most important thing to do first, you must be ready for the child 100% without hoping on any one, its very hard to seek help for your child when you do not have the money to carter for them. In this big 2025, born with plan, the economy is not funny, if you can only cater for only yourself then do not add a child, until you have resource to sustain a home.

Never be in a hurry to start a Family because your friends are all married, take your time, check your capacity and wait till your are fully prepared for it, if you fail to provide for your home, the society will not help you, rather they will mock at you. Family should be your last plan, after you have excuted others , Family comes with so many responsibility and if you are not ready it will ruin your life.

[EarnOnVictor]

In my country, it is pretty common for parents to have kids then think that their kids are their hope. That is because they get kids without being financially ready for it yet and then they just eventually hope that when their kids grow up they will be the ones to build wealth for them. But is having kids the reason why people end up financially worse over the years? Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

I understand your disposition, but it's not always right to delay child bearing, but one should limit it to what they can take care of,  or to almost what they can take care of instead of waiting forever. At times, if you do not take the risk, you might never achieve what you want to achieve in life. There are many people who didn't take the risk, and didn't have children, or they have it late, and started taking care of the children at their old age, even with pension money. Is that good also? And we've seen enough people who didn't have much but risked it, and before they knew it, they become more than capable. Conclusively, this life is not balanced, no perfect equation or approach for it.

[DYING_S0UL]

In my country, it is pretty common for parents to have kids then think that their kids are their hope. That is because they get kids without being financially ready for it yet and then they just eventually hope that when their kids grow up they will be the ones to build wealth for them. But is having kids the reason why people end up financially worse over the years? Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

I understand your disposition, but it's not always right to delay child bearing, but one should limit it to what they can take care of,  or to almost what they can take care of instead of waiting forever. At times, if you do not take the risk, you might never achieve what you want to achieve in life. There are many people who didn't take the risk, and didn't have children, or they have it late, and started taking care of the children at their old age, even with pension money. Is that good also? And we've seen enough people who didn't have much but risked it, and before they knew it, they become more than capable. Conclusively, this life is not balanced, no perfect equation or approach for it.

Sometimes I wonder, how in the past, parents used to feed and raise 10-15 children! It may seem like a shocking thing to you but in some parts of the globe, having many children were an actual thing, maybe even now! Raising that many kids surely would have been expensive and exhausting! And here we are disputing about whether we should have two children (assumed) or not, lol !

My father has 3 brothers and 5 sisters, totalling 9 children raised by my grandma! Can u guys imagine that?

As for the time and limit, I believe in that too. Everything has their right time and we should also limit child bearing. One is good, two is also ok, but not more than that.

[Ricardo11]

In my country, it is pretty common for parents to have kids then think that their kids are their hope. That is because they get kids without being financially ready for it yet and then they just eventually hope that when their kids grow up they will be the ones to build wealth for them. But is having kids the reason why people end up financially worse over the years? Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

I understand your disposition, but it's not always right to delay child bearing, but one should limit it to what they can take care of,  or to almost what they can take care of instead of waiting forever. At times, if you do not take the risk, you might never achieve what you want to achieve in life. There are many people who didn't take the risk, and didn't have children, or they have it late, and started taking care of the children at their old age, even with pension money. Is that good also? And we've seen enough people who didn't have much but risked it, and before they knew it, they become more than capable. Conclusively, this life is not balanced, no perfect equation or approach for it.

Sometimes I wonder, how in the past, parents used to feed and raise 10-15 children! It may seem like a shocking thing to you but in some parts of the globe, having many children were an actual thing, maybe even now! Raising that many kids surely would have been expensive and exhausting! And here we are disputing about whether we should have two children (assumed) or not, lol !

My father has 3 brothers and 5 sisters, totalling 9 children raised by my grandma! Can u guys imagine that?

As for the time and limit, I believe in that too. Everything has their right time and we should also limit child bearing. One is good, two is also ok, but not more than that.

Now the current social system and lifestyle have changed everything, if we want to talk about the general thing of having a large family in the past era, then most of the societies were agricultural based, (at least in my country), then at that time having a large family i.e. having many children was seen as very powerful, because it benefited them in every way, for example since their work was agricultural, in that case their children would work with them and help them in everything, and since earlier education did not have much influence, so most of the families would also take their children to agricultural work, besides, people in the past lived for a long time, they always ate pure food so their life expectancy was very long, and they had natural strength in their body, due to which they were able to have more children, and for this reason in the past people's families had many children.

But the current era is modern, education, health system, standard of living and cost of living are all expanding and everything is going to beyond people's ability. besides the mentality of the people of the current era is different, they consider more children as a kind of trouble, even many people are financially capable, but also they consider having more children as a separate problem and that is why they do not want to have many children at present.
even there are many family who decide to do not have any children, I just wonder what their future is if they do not have any children?

However, people must have children, having more children is never a bad, rather it is better, we know very well what the current era is like, can you give any guarantee that if you have a child, your child will walk a good path in life? We have seen how the current youth society is moving towards destruction, so there is no guarantee that this future will not be even more terrible, so if we have 3 or 4 children, the advantage is that even if someone goes down a bad path, one child will definitely be good, not all of them will be bad, so you should at least think about this issue and your future in old age and then decide to having children or not, because in old age you will have to rely on your children.

[EarnOnVictor]

I understand your disposition, but it's not always right to delay child bearing, but one should limit it to what they can take care of,  or to almost what they can take care of instead of waiting forever. At times, if you do not take the risk, you might never achieve what you want to achieve in life. There are many people who didn't take the risk, and didn't have children, or they have it late, and started taking care of the children at their old age, even with pension money. Is that good also? And we've seen enough people who didn't have much but risked it, and before they knew it, they become more than capable. Conclusively, this life is not balanced, no perfect equation or approach for it.

My father has 3 brothers and 5 sisters, totalling 9 children raised by my grandma! Can u guys imagine that?

Many factors and reasons contribute to a high number of children being born in the olden days, and in many cases, it is not by a single mother. At that time, the economy of the country could be very favourable, or at least accommodating for such to happen. Wives and children were used for the farming activities, which contributed to the act and their survival. As time goes on, when development becomes advanced, both the father and the mother work, which increases their tendency to survive. And if the mother didn't work, the father must be capable. Above all, food was not their main issue and education, to some levels, was free. The government were even begging some of them to go to school in my country.

As for the time and limit, I believe in that too. Everything has their right time and we should also limit child bearing. One is good, two is also ok, but not more than that.

With the current economy, I don't think people need anyone to beg them before doing the needful. "Cut your clothes according to the clothes," which is also applicable to childbearing.

[bubilas]

Having kids is everyone one dream, but preparation is the most important thing to do first, you must be ready for the child 100% without hoping on any one, its very hard to seek help for your child when you do not have the money to carter for them. In this big 2025, born with plan, the economy is not funny, if you can only cater for only yourself then do not add a child, until you have resource to sustain a home.

Never be in a hurry to start a Family because your friends are all married, take your time, check your capacity and wait till your are fully prepared for it, if you fail to provide for your home, the society will not help you, rather they will mock at you. Family should be your last plan, after you have excuted others , Family comes with so many responsibility and if you are not ready it will ruin your life.

Absolutely true. And I can't understand how families who are completely unprepared psychologically, and who have no money, yet still have so many children, survive. Children aren't mice that will survive on their own. They need to be well fed and clothed, and looked after. And then it will bear fruit in the future. And of course, you shouldn't rely on anyone, because children want to be comfortable, not listen to excuses why we can't buy them new clothes or books.

[justdimin]

I can't understand how families who are completely unprepared psychologically, and who have no money, yet still have so many children, survive. Children aren't mice that will survive on their own. They need to be well fed and clothed, and looked after. And then it will bear fruit in the future. And of course, you shouldn't rely on anyone, because children want to be comfortable, not listen to excuses why we can't buy them new clothes or books.

To be fair, people with money or not money, when they want to have a kid, they should plan to have a kid, and not "oh wow it's a surprise", no kid should be born without two consenting people wanting one. And unfortunately, there are MANY who are born without planned. That is the issue, and that is the problem and as long as that exists, we are going to have a lot of kids growing up unwanted.

If both the mom and the dad wanted the kid and planned it and then had it, then yeah that kid will probably be living a better life, but if they end up with just a pregnancy without them aiming for it? That kid will grow up in a situation where they were not really wanted and was just a unplanned shock. Figure that out and be better.

[AmaGold70]

In my country, it is pretty common for parents to have kids then think that their kids are their hope. That is because they get kids without being financially ready for it yet and then they just eventually hope that when their kids grow up they will be the ones to build wealth for them. But is having kids the reason why people end up financially worse over the years? Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

Gone are those days when people taught having more kids automatically means a better future for them without even planning on how to sponsor your kids in their lives journey, the new generation are putting a stop to this poverty continuity mindset that the oldies had back in the day. We are learning from the mistakes of our parents and I would never bring any child into this world without any plans to eradicate poverty from my lineage, having a number of kids you can't cater for is a bad financial decision because you will only end up with excess bill that you can't afford and making life difficult for everyone in your family, kids are blessings but they shouldn't be brought to the world to suffer from my bad choices.

[passwordnow]

This topic connects with this thread and topic: Sex education in schools.
If these people who engages with intercourse understands the basic economy of having children, they'd do it with protection. But if not, and they are not prepared for it. They'll have to deal with it because not all of the people that are wanting to have children have planned everything before it came to them. As for the people who didn't prepared economically, they have to learn it somehow that even our parents probably weren't prepared for it and so the cycle just continued. But, on our time, we have to break this cycle.

[Nalbo]

In my country, it is pretty common for parents to have kids then think that their kids are their hope. That is because they get kids without being financially ready for it yet and then they just eventually hope that when their kids grow up they will be the ones to build wealth for them. But is having kids the reason why people end up financially worse over the years? Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

This is the mindset of many poor ignorant people, they will keep giving birth and multiplying children with the hope that one or two of them will grow up and become rich to take them out of poverty. They don't reason that one or some of the kids can become criminals and give them heartbreak, in the end poverty will keep increasing and most of them will die miserably. Enlightened people plan how many kids that they can afford to take care of and when the kids starts to come they will give them the very best care and education that they can afford.

There is a part of a country that has a lot of terrorists, if you research you will find out that most of the parents and children born in that part of the country are destituts, very impoverished and that is why they can be easily recruited into terrorism. If the parents were enlightened and stop giving birth to uncountable children, poverty will decrease and they can resist crime.

That might have been true but most parts of the world is facing a different problem. Except for some African countries and few Muslim countries, fertility rates are very low. There's a sudden and quick drop in fertility rate that we are moving towards a strange demographics where there are a lot of old people but not enough young people to work. Old people are living long while couples are either not making babies or making just one. On the contrary, people here feel kids are expenses they can't afford.

[ChiBitCTy]

I think my opinion on children is going to bury vastly from the vast majority of people here and the simple fact if it comes down to, I see what my friends and family spend on their children and holy shit I’ve been bringing a life into the worlds, beautiful thing, but isn’t it a beautiful thing to be able to live a much more comfortable Life yourself?

[Bitcoin_people]

In my country, it is pretty common for parents to have kids then think that their kids are their hope. That is because they get kids without being financially ready for it yet and then they just eventually hope that when their kids grow up they will be the ones to build wealth for them. But is having kids the reason why people end up financially worse over the years? Do not get me wrong, kids are a blessing but realistically speaking they are expensive. Is it fair to yourselves and to the kids to have kids just to leave it up to them to be wealthy and let them grow up through hardships?

When a child is born, the parents promise to raise the child well and without any hardships so that the child can study and become something great in the future. But if there are parents who make their children work and think that they will become rich, then I think it is completely wrong and irregular. Having children in a family is a blessing, so it is the responsibility of the parents to raise them from young to old in a costly or middle-class manner. They earn hard and show their children the dream of doing something good in the future. However, if those parents make their children work hard from a young age, then that child will never be able to become rich in the future because he will lack education and skills, due to which he will not be able to do anything good, that is why every child has a lot of importance on his parents.