Israël threatens France

[G.Seed]

Israël wants to "punish" us (french) because we have recently recognized the state of Palestine.

First diplomatic sanctions. We do not give a shit, actually, the less diplomatic relations with have with "Israël", the better it is for France.

Second economic sanctions. We are already destroyed by debt interests thanks to zionist "french" politics, so we have nothing to lose.

Third terrorism. They could use zionist terrorist groups like "ISIS" to commit "false flag" attacks against France. This won't be really "false flag" because now everybody knows Daesh works for Israël.

[Joy_learns_crypto]

Do you have any link to this news? Isreal is in no position to threaten any country or impose sanctions on any country because they recognize Palestine.
Spain may boycott the World Cup if isreal is given a chance to participate, other countries are asking that Israeli clubs to be removed from European competitions so it is not good for isreal at the international level.

[franky1]

Third terrorism. They could use zionist terrorist groups like "ISIS" to commit "false flag" attacks against France. This won't be really "false flag" because now everybody knows Daesh works for Israël.

g.seed always loves to use the crimes and issues of hamas.. but pretend that they are issues or things related to israel
hamas want genocide hamas is a terror group. hamas are related to the isis/daesh terror groups..

yep if you read the syrian presidents biography of how he was radicalised and by who, and his movements between different terror groups as a low level pawn to their lawfare and warfare games.. it becomes clearer who was affiliated with it.. hamas are linked.. not israeli-jews

daesh/isis were not a group of jews, not hebrew speakers.. they were arabian based

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peaceful, innocent palestinians wont get a state until hamas are dealt with. but g.seed doesnt want hamas destroyed/removed from power, he just wants hamas not to be talked about but still in power, so they can get to govern a state recognised internationally.. and by france as soon as possible

i feel g.seed has some leanings towards arabians and animosity against jews.. he loves using negativity when saying buzzwords of "zionist".

daesh, isis, hamas dont want jews around(dont want zionists)
daesh, isis, hamas want a revival of the persian/arab empire(they are/were proxies of the tehran regime)

[G.Seed]

Do you have any link to this news? Isreal is in no position to threaten any country or impose sanctions on any country because they recognize Palestine.

Yes.
arab source : https://www.newarab.com/news/israel-threatens-france-over-palestine-recognition
israeli source : https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-05-26/ty-article/.premium/netanyahus-top-ally-threatens-west-bank-annexation-if-palestinian-state-declared/00000197-0c1f-dc94-ab97-0e1f0c110000
luxemburg source : https://www.rtl.fr/actu/international/reconnaissance-de-l-etat-de-palestine-quelles-represailles-peut-on-attendre-de-la-part-d-israel-7900544009
french right wing source : https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/israel-menace-la-france-d-imposer-la-fermeture-de-son-consulat-general-a-jerusalem-20250820


Spain may boycott the World Cup if isreal is given a chance to participate, other countries are asking that Israeli clubs to be removed from European competitions so it is not good for isreal at the international level.

Yes, I know these are good news.

Third terrorism. They could use zionist terrorist groups like "ISIS" to commit "false flag" attacks against France. This won't be really "false flag" because now everybody knows Daesh works for Israël.

g.seed always loves to use the crimes and issues of hamas.. but pretend that they are issues or things related to israel
hamas want genocide hamas is a terror group. hamas are related to the isis/daesh terror groups..

Why don't you speak directly to me. It looks like you are afraid.

american source : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/
french source : https://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2006/02/03/quand-israel-favorisait-le-hamas-par-charles-enderlin_737642_3232.html

daesh/isis were not a group of jews, not hebrew speakers.. they were arabian based

not "were" but "are" they still exist. They are arabian based, true. But they kill muslims and christian and never attacked "Israël".
This is a fact.

There is another fact you probably do not know.

Daesh attacked the hezbollah
source : https://www.rtl.fr/actu/international/liban-41-morts-dans-un-attentat-de-daesh-contre-un-fief-du-hezbollah-7780484445

the persian/arab empire

Yes persian, arab, it is the same.
It is like saying "the chinese/japanese" empire.
Please read books.



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[Dunamisx]

OP if you don't want to end this your topic in a trash can, you had better allow other members to reply after your post and don't make posts in a row without other's post at intervals.

I don't think Israel will want to spark on anything that may cause them to have issues with France, they may try to threaten on any French speaking nations that supports Palestine their greatest enemy, but not directing it to France, with what i see, but let see how it all goes, because Israel couldn't just keep in silence over anything that has to do with one collaborating with their enemies, while i don't support either of the two, but i only see no reason for sparking up war for anything.

[franky1]

Third terrorism. They could use zionist terrorist groups like "ISIS" to commit "false flag" attacks against France. This won't be really "false flag" because now everybody knows Daesh works for Israël.

g.seed always loves to use the crimes and issues of hamas.. but pretend that they are issues or things related to israel
hamas want genocide hamas is a terror group. hamas are related to the isis/daesh terror groups..

Why don't you speak directly to me. It looks like you are afraid.

american source : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas/
french source : https://www.lemonde.fr/idees/article/2006/02/03/quand-israel-favorisait-le-hamas-par-charles-enderlin_737642_3232.html

israel did not actually take any money out of its own treasury to give to hamas
instead israel was blocking and preventing the tehran/persian regime from funding gaza.. which tehran and other arab nations used qatar as the laundering service
think of qatar as he middle-easts version of "switzerland" playing financial and political mediator/tax haven/middleman

israel had blocks/sanctions to prevent money transfers as a way to stop hamas gaining power or recruiting..

but then tensions were rising and things were escalating where things were starting to cause both civil and political and military and jihadi unrest. and so to ease tensions and bring back some semblance to normalsy/peace, israel allowed money to flow from tehran->qatar->gaza so that palestinians could get paid and thus stop the tensions/strike/protest that could have lead to conflict a couple decades ago... and it worked, people backed down and went back to work and a semblance of normalsy was returned

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has defended allowing Qatar to transfer millions of dollars to Hamas-run Gaza despite criticism from within his own government over the move aimed at restoring calm after months of unrest.

The Israeli-authorised money transfer appeared to be part of talks that would see Islamist movement Hamas end months of often violent protests along the border in exchange for Israel easing its blockade of the Gaza Strip.

Border protests have been much calmer the last two Fridays, the day they usually peak.

so israel did not create or fund hamas. israel just initially stopped hamas from becoming so brutal so quickly by giving into small demands upfront like stop blocking financial transfers(stop sanctioning gaza), to then enable them to get funds from ultimately tehran to shut them up and stop making threats.

[G.Seed]

OP if you don't want to end this your topic in a trash can, you had better allow other members to reply after your post and don't make posts in a row without other's post at intervals.

Well it has been merged...

I don't think Israel will want to spark on anything that may cause them to have issues with France...

I hope so. They have threatened us several times, openly, this is a fact.

israel did not actually take any money out of its own treasury...

They did not do it with their money ! Very funny ! Almost antisemitic ! Be careful...
It is not us. We did not do it. It is Hamas (we supported), this is a "djihadist" group (we supported), it is Pontius Pilate...
Israël never directly supported independantists in New Caledonia. Azerbaïdjan did it. And Israël is Azerbaïdjan first support.
Oh but oups, wait a min, this is from the Benjamin Mileikowski's son (family changed their European name to "Netanyahu" so we think they are hebrew)
Screw you! Yes to independence of New Caledonia! Yes to independence to French Polynesia! Yes to independence of Corsica! Yes to independence of the Basque Country! Yes to independence of French Guinea! Stop the neo imperialism of France in west Africa!
Oh thank you, "chosen one", thank you "children of light", it seems that we french are also part of the "people of darkness".

[franky1]

israel did not actually take any money out of its own treasury...

They did not do it with their money ! Very funny ! Almost antisemitic ! Be careful...

you need to learn the facts, stop sniffing the hamas glue and start to learn

israel banned international finance with gaza to stop other countries funding/sponsoring hamas
hamas financial minister stopped funding public services inside gaza,stopped paying palestinian wages, stopped social security payments

palestinians started protesting asking for international funding to begin because hamas was blaming israel for hamas's actions

israel seen tensions rise and could become a civil war and then a cross border war, so they relaxed some restrictions/sanctions temporarilly, which allowed qatar to send funds into gaza...

Under arrangements stemming from past ceasefire understandings with Israel, the gas-rich emirate of Qatar pays the salaries of civil servants in the Gaza Strip

qatar was also the laundry service of the tehran agenda.. so it was tehran/qatar that created, bolstered and funded hamas.. not israel

the closest you could find to israel financing gaza is where israel allowed palestinian daily work visa's to pass east through the border into israel to work as day labourers.

you might also when learning about the tensions which lead to a temporary relaxation of financial sanctions. learn that tensions did deescalate and for years there was no war.. and then you may learn when in september 2023 the hamas financial minister yet again decided to slash wages by more then 50% it caused civil discourse, protests, which escalated and hamas were blaming on israel for gaza's financial ministers decison, saying it was solely due to israel not allowing international doner's to sponsor hamas.. which lead to protests and violence. and then hamas broke passed the border and attacked israel on october 7th declaring war on israel

[Hispo]

I would have guessed Israeli-Frenchbdiplomscy was always going to be strong and aligned... It seems I was wrong...

Israel is a relatively small country with limited economical power, so I don't see how it could effectively punish France, unless the Israel continues to be backed by the United States in order to punish their own allies for recognizing Palestine as a country/state.

It would be quite shocking to see the United States applying sanctions against their own allies in the European continent. But keeping in mind the United States had called Israel their most important ally, I would not be surprised...

[franky1]

I would have guessed Israeli-Frenchbdiplomscy was always going to be strong and aligned... It seems I was wrong...

Israel is a relatively small country with limited economical power, so I don't see how it could effectively punish France, unless the Israel continues to be backed by the United States in order to punish their own allies for recognizing Palestine as a country/state.

It would be quite shocking to see the United States applying sanctions against their own allies in the European continent. But keeping in mind the United States had called Israel their most important ally, I would not be surprised...

as always G.Seed takes clickbait titles and exagerates it into some violent attack kind of language

israel is just saying it will take away frances consulate property within the israel territory. basically if france refuses to wait until hamas are de-powered then israel will take away frances political holiday home in israel

think about it from another prospective. using other countries as a example
imagine there is a long term plan to demilitarise north korea and give it statehood alongside south korea. but north korea has to have elections first to rid it of kim jong un's agenda first
now imagine if russia wanted to recognise north korea as a partner straight away. the UK would want to say to russian diplomats to get out of the UK as their embassy is no longer allowed in the UK

[G.Seed]

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The fact Hamas has been helped by "Israël" to have valid pretexts to kill and steal more lands (and other reasons) is a fact. It is not something we can debate, all people interested on the subject knows it. Some just do not want it to spread, and some want it to spread.
Your anti-muslim and anti-arabic racism is not ok with this fact, I am sorry about that but it cannot change the truth.

I would have guessed Israeli-French diplomscy was always going to be strong and aligned... It seems I was wrong...

"Israël" has no allies. Israël has slaves (USA, France, Italy...) or enemies (Iran, China...). And slaves sometimes try to escape.

as always G.Seed takes clickbait titles and exagerates it into some violent attack kind of language

Ah, ah ! You are very funny ! I have a mental image of you with Mr Bean's face. "Shoah by words".

[franky1]

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The fact Hamas has been helped by "Israël" to have valid pretexts to kill and steal more lands (and other reasons) is a fact. It is not something we can debate, all people interested on the subject knows it. Some just do not want it to spread, and some want it to spread.
Your anti-muslim and anti-arabic racism is not ok with this fact, I am sorry about that but it cannot change the truth.

im only anti-hamas.. im all for palestinians having gaza as their homeland once hamas are dealt with, and coexist with israeli's in westbank.. to develop their own cultural identity.. however your continual game of not understanding the different factions, clans, creeds, tribes. and instead trying to brush them under one category or mis-represent which side they origin'd from, is where you become the racist.

although im athiest, i have nothing against any religious people, as long as they use their religion to better themselves and not use it against others. heck your trying to pretend all israeli actions are based on your obsession with biblical references where you feel you want to push that narrative onto jews mission.. when infact hamas(small clan) are the ones that use their religious views to power their goals

as always G.Seed takes clickbait titles and exagerates it into some violent attack kind of language

Ah, ah ! You are very funny ! I have a mental image of you with Mr Bean's face. "Shoah by words".

i imagine you as a basement dwelling troll, whos only life experience is social media, i imagine you have never met nor got to know any arabian nor israeli to actually know their real experience. you just take clickbait as your gospel and then fantasise about it, until whats in your head is a major exageration compared to the facts hidden/ignored in reality

[G.Seed]

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The fact Hamas has been helped by "Israël" to have valid pretexts to kill and steal more lands (and other reasons) is a fact. It is not something we can debate, all people interested on the subject knows it. Some just do not want it to spread, and some want it to spread.
Your anti-muslim and anti-arabic racism is not ok with this fact, I am sorry about that but it cannot change the truth.

im only anti-hamas.. im all for palestinians having gaza as their homeland once hamas are dealt with, and coexist with israeli's in westbank.. to develop their own cultural identity..

If you are anti Hamas, and if "Israël" helped to create Hamas to create casus belli to steal more palestinian lands, how can you support "Israël" ?

however your continual game of not understanding the different factions, clans, creeds, tribes

You were the one talking about "persian/arab empire".
I was the one telling you that Daesh attacked Hezbollah.

is where you become the racist

Racist against which race ?

although im athiest, i have nothing against any religious people, as long as they use their religion to better themselves and not use it against others.

So what about justifying stealing lands and killing people using religious arguments like "chosen people" and "Isaiah s prophecy" ?

your trying to pretend all israeli actions are based on your obsession with biblical references where you feel you want to push that narrative onto jews mission

Benjamin Mileikowski "Netanyahu" pushed this narrative.
He did it. It is a fact.

when infact hamas(small clan) are the ones that use their religious views to power their goals

Oh yeah great argument. It would be difficult to say this with the first palestinian resistance who was christian, muslim, marxist and even jewish.
Oh wait a minut, this is why Israël promoted Hamas, it will be easier to steal money for christian courntries if we fight "Hamas", the perfect heel as in "WWE".

i imagine you as a basement dwelling troll, whos only life experience is social media

I am ashamed because the subject is serious, but you are so funny. I do not think you are an evil person or anything. Just something in your brain blocks you.

i imagine you have never met nor got to know any arabian nor israeli to actually know their real experience

Ah, ah, ah ! (this is the french way to laugh)

• Israeli poisoned palestinian wells.
• Israeli sterilized black women without their consent.
• Israeli did everything to break all peace treaties for decades.
• Israël steals our money and blackmail our politics.
• Israël acts as a hideout for jewish criminals.
• Israël leaders are racist and religious extremists.
• Israëli lobby break the career of journalists/artists/politics critizing them.
• Israël attacked USA and tried to accuse Egypt.
• Israël has nuclear weapons and does not want to sign non-proliferation treaty
• Israël killed a lot of moderate leaders and promoted Hamas as a way to continue war.
• Israël is currently organizing a starvation campaign
• Etc, etc, etc

These are facts, not exagerations. Israël exagerates when they starve people, not me.
And you are just saying me that I cannot understand because I have never had Israeli cocks in my hole. I do not think this would help.
You are a very funny person.

[₿itcoin]

wtf, to me, this seems like a deep conspiracy. France and other countries recently recognized a Palestinian state, which was really needed, but this is just a diplomatic move, there is no suicidal provocation here. Moreover, Israel does not have a magic "sanctions button" with which it can punish states like superpowers.

Yes, other countries can and do impose measures, but unilateral countermeasures are complicated and political. I think the claim that "Daesh works for Israel" is a baseless conspiracy, I reject this narrative outright. It is better to stop raising smoke without any evidence.

[franky1]

Moreover, Israel does not have a magic "sanctions button" with which it can punish states like superpowers.

types of sanctions include economic sanctions, which restrict trade and finance (e.g., trade bans, asset freezes, arms embargoes),
and diplomatic sanctions, such as reducing diplomatic ties or cancelling meetings

israel can close off french access to embassies operating in israels territory, ignore french diplomacy, stop doing trade deals

some of this stuff is vitally important at the moment due to 'Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)' aka doctors without borders

[JeromeTash]

Well Well Well, is there anyone still surprised with Netanyahu and Israel with their level of arrogance and impunity? We have one country to blame for this. They are the enablers of all this kind of shitshow and the times are going to come when they come back to their senses, and it's too late.
I watched part of Netanyahu's speech at the UN and I found it so nauseating, no wonder a number of delegates walked out.

[franky1]

Well Well Well, is there anyone still surprised with Netanyahu and Israel with their level of arrogance and impunity? We have one country to blame for this. They are the enablers of all this kind of shitshow and the times are going to come when they come back to their senses, and it's too late.
I watched part of Netanyahu's speech at the UN and I found it so nauseating, no wonder a number of delegates walked out.

the delegates that walked out were mainly african, because netanyahu has no trade deals with them and other matters of economics and climate.. the african nations do this many times and has become a known tradition

UN climate talks (November 2024): Delegations from developing nations, including African countries, walked out of a meeting at the COP29 climate talks in Baku, Azerbaijan. The walkout was a protest against what they viewed as insufficient climate finance commitments from wealthy nations for developing countries to help them adapt to climate change

2023: Burundi delegation walkout
    Human Rights Committee (July 2023): The Burundian delegation walked out of a UN Human Rights Committee meeting in Geneva during a review of Burundi's human rights record. The delegates claimed the committee was working with "criminals" and "terrorists" by including civil society members from outside the government in the discussion

2022: COP15 biodiversity talks
    UN biodiversity talks (December 2022): Developing countries, including African states, staged a walkout during the COP15 talks in Montreal to protest the lack of funding commitments from developed nations. Activist groups called the walkout a sign of frustration, stating that "developing countries are tired of the behavior of rich nations on biodiversity finance"

[₿itcoin]

types of sanctions include economic sanctions, which restrict trade and finance (e.g., trade bans, asset freezes, arms embargoes),
and diplomatic sanctions, such as reducing diplomatic ties or cancelling meetings

israel can close off french access to embassies operating in israels territory, ignore french diplomacy, stop doing trade deals

some of this stuff is vitally important at the moment due to 'Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)' aka doctors without borders

yeah  technically Israel can limit French diplomatic activities there is no doubt about that, but lets not forget that there are legal limits &  costs that both countries will have to bear. You know the Vienna Convention protects mission premises &  sets rules for medical treatment, even if your relations are bad, they have to be allowed to do their work, thats the agreement. The point is that punitive economic measures or outright severance of relations are politically complex &  costly for both countries, so it would be wrong to think that the key is in Israel's hands.

More relevant at the moment is the humanitarian perspective, MSF has long warned and even suspended its activities in Gaza City because the security situation and access restrictions are making life saving work almost impossible. You know that any action by Israel, Hamas or any other state that prevents aid will undoubtedly be considered an abhorrent act by the international community. The same rules apply to everyone, be it Israel, Hamas or the United States

I agree that it is rather reasonable for the Israeli government to take diplomatic steps, however disrupting humanitarian access (MSF, hospitals) is not acceptable at all. It is a clear blow to legal, moral &  reputational integrity

[franky1]

types of sanctions include economic sanctions, which restrict trade and finance (e.g., trade bans, asset freezes, arms embargoes),
and diplomatic sanctions, such as reducing diplomatic ties or cancelling meetings

israel can close off french access to embassies operating in israels territory, ignore french diplomacy, stop doing trade deals

some of this stuff is vitally important at the moment due to 'Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF)' aka doctors without borders

yeah  technically Israel can limit French diplomatic activities there is no doubt about that, but lets not forget that there are legal limits &  costs that both countries will have to bear. You know the Vienna Convention protects mission premises &  sets rules for medical treatment, even if your relations are bad, they have to be allowed to do their work, thats the agreement. The point is that punitive economic measures or outright severance of relations are politically complex &  costly for both countries, so it would be wrong to think that the key is in Israel's hands.

More relevant at the moment is the humanitarian perspective, MSF has long warned and even suspended its activities in Gaza City because the security situation and access restrictions are making life saving work almost impossible. You know that any action by Israel, Hamas or any other state that prevents aid will undoubtedly be considered an abhorrent act by the international community. The same rules apply to everyone, be it Israel, Hamas or the United States

I agree that it is rather reasonable for the Israeli government to take diplomatic steps, however disrupting humanitarian access (MSF, hospitals) is not acceptable at all. It is a clear blow to legal, moral &  reputational integrity

lets say MSF had previous clinics in gaza city.. which due to surveillance footage of hamas incursions of abusing clinics as their base of operations, shut down their designations as protected infrastructure and reclassified them as military operational targets. evacuation warnings were given for the medics to vacate and warnings to citizens to evacuate and head to neighbouring towns which will have a US GHF medic station personnel led by US medical staff, thus not needing the french doctors. israel can then legally ask the french doctors to evacuate all of gaza strip entirely and go back to france. whereby israel may have other deals with other medical specialists from other nations to fill in and help.

diplomatically just saying 'services no longer required' deporting them back to france, could be the better more respectful option compared to arresting them and interrogating them to see how much they aided hamas

[franky1]

the persian/arab empire

Yes persian, arab, it is the same.
It is like saying "the chinese/japanese" empire.
Please read books.

According to fcunty1 hamas=iran, so arabs=persians
LMFAO
He clearly needs either history or math classes..
(Just to show you how these propagandists operate. They just spread lies).

iran=persian
iran(tehran regime) have an agenda to re-ignite the persian empire.. using hamas/houthi's/hezbollah as POLITICAL/MILITARY proxies(not religiously/linguistically/culturally)
iranian(tehan regime(persian empire plan)) stage one was to get hamas to remove israeli- jews..
much like how iran sided with syria to get the Ba'ath Party in iraq

 then(no where near yet to start) have iranian(persians) remove/convert the arabians
we have yet to see iran do its master plan upfront.. but it will eventually come, and become the next endless war in the middle east.