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November 08, 2025, 10:28:43 PM
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They call it reserve, that means those bitcoin are for investment and future profits purpose,  so for that reason,  at some point they will definitely sell off their Bitcoin holdings when the profits is ok for the country, also we shouldn't think that because such a big country's holding Bitcoin reserves will stop Bitcoin from dumping in price or even mark an all time high bill market.

Volatility is what Bitcoin is know for and we have to agree withbthat fact that Volatility will always have it ways innthe bitcoin market and it ecosystem.

We shouldn't expect so much from their engagement with bitcoin and even their bitcoin holdings is quite small compared to that of others .

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November 09, 2025, 03:52:12 AM
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They call it reserve, that means those bitcoin are for investment and future profits purpose,  so for that reason,  at some point they will definitely sell off their Bitcoin holdings when the profits is ok for the country, also we shouldn't think that because such a big country's holding Bitcoin reserves will stop Bitcoin from dumping in price or even mark an all time high bill market.

Volatility is what Bitcoin is know for and we have to agree withbthat fact that Volatility will always have it ways innthe bitcoin market and it ecosystem.

We shouldn't expect so much from their engagement with bitcoin and even their bitcoin holdings is quite small compared to that of others .
When a government consider bitcoin a reserve, that means they wouldn't sell it. It becomes store of value and trump has formalized the executive order about it.

It's not like some random company portfolio where they can rotate around their asset. Entirely different thing.

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November 09, 2025, 03:52:17 AM
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They call it reserve, that means those bitcoin are for investment and future profits purpose,  so for that reason,  at some point they will definitely sell off their Bitcoin holdings when the profits is ok for the country, also we shouldn't think that because such a big country's holding Bitcoin reserves will stop Bitcoin from dumping in price or even mark an all time high bill market.

Volatility is what Bitcoin is know for and we have to agree withbthat fact that Volatility will always have it ways innthe bitcoin market and it ecosystem.

We shouldn't expect so much from their engagement with bitcoin and even their bitcoin holdings is quite small compared to that of others .

I don't know what the purpose of the US government is in holding that bitcoin, but once it is called a national reserve. This means the asset is not used for investment and profit purposes. The purpose of national reserves is to protect and stabilize the economy and is only to be used in emergencies. They are not sold casually just for profit.

But I agree with you, the market is very volatile and follows the law of supply and demand, not just depending on 1 government. So let's not be naive enough to think just because a country holds a large amount of bitcoin and doesn't sell it, its price won't drop or skyrocket.
Bitcoin is a global asset, and fluctuates according to the laws of supply and demand.

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November 09, 2025, 06:56:12 AM
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There are now countries that have a strategic bitcoin reserve or have purchased Bitcoin as security for their country. And also many companies have done the same. It would be better if many people hold their own Bitcoin. But when a larger drop come, they could cause their fear to drive the price down more quickly. With countries and companies, this maybe does not happen so quickly. Perhaps we are currently see that, with the price holding above $100k.
Above all, it is important that MiCa does not cut this development in 2026. The control makes it unattractive for some, and in terms of freedom, the MiCa regulation will restrict it.

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November 09, 2025, 08:36:14 AM
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They call it reserve, that means those bitcoin are for investment and future profits purpose,  so for that reason,  at some point they will definitely sell off their Bitcoin holdings when the profits is ok for the country, also we shouldn't think that because such a big country's holding Bitcoin reserves will stop Bitcoin from dumping in price or even mark an all time high bill market.

Volatility is what Bitcoin is know for and we have to agree withbthat fact that Volatility will always have it ways innthe bitcoin market and it ecosystem.

We shouldn't expect so much from their engagement with bitcoin and even their bitcoin holdings is quite small compared to that of others .
When a government consider bitcoin a reserve, that means they wouldn't sell it. It becomes store of value and trump has formalized the executive order about it.

It's not like some random company portfolio where they can rotate around their asset. Entirely different thing.

The government can still sell even if bitcoin becomes a strategic reserve but they will only sell in urgent cases to serve the economy. They won't sell it because the price has gone too high and the profit is too great.

Yes, national reserves are completely different from the so-called investment portfolio.

But we need to be clear that the strategic bitcoin reserve signed by Trump has not reached that level yet. His administration could sell it at any time, or a successor administration could easily do so with just another decree. Because the strategic bitcoin reserve signed by Trump is not an official national reserve like the gold the United States holds.

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November 09, 2025, 09:32:03 AM
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The law can always be amended at anytime so what they are saying there is just for the moment and does not hold any force. The US are never trusted whenever things of this nature comes up as seen in the words of their President whom just come on air and say something that affects the market and not minding the consequences of what he has said.

The US strategic reserve is a nice idea but they never invested in Bitcoin but rather ceased Bitcoin are what is to be converted into the national reserve and these are people's assets that were stolen which should have been possibly returned back to them through the safest and more reliable means but they chose to hold onto it and making it a national reserve. If they can act this way, is it law that they can not amend under seconds to suit their main goal?

It can and there's possibilities that it will happen in future especially that not all officials really like the law and actions done by Trump on Bitcoin.

That's why they didn't succeed on their BTC accumulation plans even if there's a senator push to create a law that allow US to accumulate Bitcoin since there lots of critics stop this to happen. Also we provably notice that US seems manipulating the market and I will not get surprise if they decide to dump their Bitcoins in future since somehow its expected that this situation will happen in future.

Bitcoin strategic reserve idea is really cool but if they are just using their seized coin and will not accumulate still it will not give any big market effect.


Not everyone in the government of US likes the Bitcoin idea and besides, Trump has a limited time in office  and the possibility of the Bitcoin bills and policies can likely be revoked or reversed after his tenure is over so therefore the possibility of the Bitcoin reserve might also be revoked when he leaves office.

The possibility of them also dumping is very high as well because not all the law makers and executives are okay with the Bitcoin market even Trump too sometimes just goes off keys  and whenever he does that, it drastically has a downtone on the Crypto market so tell me as an enthusiast and irrespective of the fact that he is the President, he would always be mindful of his words not to cause any market crisis or decline so that the industry would keep booming but the reverse is the case as his actions clearly shows his intentions and that has been the case since he assumed office.

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November 09, 2025, 12:08:19 PM
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Not everyone in the government of US likes the Bitcoin idea and besides, Trump has a limited time in office  and the possibility of the Bitcoin bills and policies can likely be revoked or reversed after his tenure is over so therefore the possibility of the Bitcoin reserve might also be revoked when he leaves office.

The possibility of them also dumping is very high as well because not all the law makers and executives are okay with the Bitcoin market even Trump too sometimes just goes off keys  and whenever he does that, it drastically has a downtone on the Crypto market so tell me as an enthusiast and irrespective of the fact that he is the President, he would always be mindful of his words not to cause any market crisis or decline so that the industry would keep booming but the reverse is the case as his actions clearly shows his intentions and that has been the case since he assumed office.
Next time read prior posts on the thread before writing useless and generic shitposts such as this one. This has already been addressed, you could not be more wrong. It does not matter what "law makers" are okay with, all that matters is who is paying for it and how much they are paying for it. Don't be a naive kid and learn how the world works.

The important thing here is that this has finally been accomplished. This step should be celebrated instead of looking for flaws or discouraging arguments. Bitcoin can't mature in the US policy would this stepping stone. As the industry grows further, no significant politician will be able to strongly oppose it. Democrats are as corrupt as they come. Once all major banks and financial companies are deeply tied to Bitcoin, they will come on board. They always do.  Smiley

The government can still sell even if bitcoin becomes a strategic reserve but they will only sell in urgent cases to serve the economy. They won't sell it because the price has gone too high and the profit is too great.

Yes, national reserves are completely different from the so-called investment portfolio.

But we need to be clear that the strategic bitcoin reserve signed by Trump has not reached that level yet. His administration could sell it at any time, or a successor administration could easily do so with just another decree. Because the strategic bitcoin reserve signed by Trump is not an official national reserve like the gold the United States holds.
I've also addressed this on the previous page as well. This is fine. You can't get a national reserve asset as fast as you can get the strategic reserve that they have made. Anyway, the USG does not own a considerable number of Bitcoin yet. So even if they were to sell them by a future government change, it would not be as significant as some think it would. Now were they to actually try to buy a considerable amount say 1M, then a potential sale could have a significant effect. So far, any such plans are on ice even though the USG can easily afford to take such action.

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 We've seen how sanctions on big nations always cause a dump on the market, well the US government already have a fair agreement with the Chinese government concerning the trade war so far the time being we might not see any sanctions on China until their agreement is broken.
 The fact that US added Bitcoin to their reserve means they won't sell but hodl it for the future but selling a large quantity of Bitcoin is not only what causes a dump he (Trump) might have made agreement with China and ease the sanctions, how about Russia, how about FUDs and other market manipulations.

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They call it reserve, that means those bitcoin are for investment and future profits purpose,  so for that reason,  at some point they will definitely sell off their Bitcoin holdings when the profits is ok for the country, also we shouldn't think that because such a big country's holding Bitcoin reserves will stop Bitcoin from dumping in price or even mark an all time high bill market.

Volatility is what Bitcoin is know for and we have to agree withbthat fact that Volatility will always have it ways innthe bitcoin market and it ecosystem.

We shouldn't expect so much from their engagement with bitcoin and even their bitcoin holdings is quite small compared to that of others .
When a government consider bitcoin a reserve, that means they wouldn't sell it. It becomes store of value and trump has formalized the executive order about it.

It's not like some random company portfolio where they can rotate around their asset. Entirely different thing.
But they will sell their bitcoin regardless whether that be from other sources where they have accumulated it from. From confiscations due to criminal activity, auction or other means.
These are not included in their bitcoin reserve so they are free to do what they want with those acquired from those confiscations.

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November 10, 2025, 12:33:46 AM
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But they will sell their bitcoin regardless whether that be from other sources where they have accumulated it from. From confiscations due to criminal activity, auction or other means.
These are not included in their bitcoin reserve so they are free to do what they want with those acquired from those confiscations.
Can you not write shitposts and do some basic research first before writing incorrect nonsense? The Bitcoin Reserve as created by trump will explicitly keep confiscated coins, they will not sell them.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/03/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-establishes-the-strategic-bitcoin-reserve-and-u-s-digital-asset-stockpile/

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The Strategic Bitcoin Reserve will be capitalized with bitcoin owned by the Department of Treasury that was forfeited as part of criminal or civil asset forfeiture proceedings.  Other agencies will evaluate their legal authority to transfer any bitcoin owned by those agencies to the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve.

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Tbh, I wouldn’t say “never.” Govs change rules all the time when it fits their goals. Right now it’s bullish, yeah, they’re treating BTC like digital gold. But if markets crash or they need liquidity, they could tweak the law. If other countries copy this tho, that’s huge  less BTC on exchanges, tighter supply, price could go nuts long term.

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Tbh, I wouldn’t say “never.” Govs change rules all the time when it fits their goals. Right now it’s bullish, yeah, they’re treating BTC like digital gold. But if markets crash or they need liquidity, they could tweak the law.
The government can still sell bitcoin to the market, they can't hold it forever, but if it becomes a national reserve. They won't be able to sell it randomly just because the market is volatile, they will only sell it in case the economy is in trouble. That's one of the benefits if bitcoin becomes a national reserve like gold.

If other countries copy this tho, that’s huge  less BTC on exchanges, tighter supply, price could go nuts long term.

This is only true if countries turn bitcoin into national reserves and use national budgets to buy and accumulate it. But if they just copy the US and use the seized Bitcoin as national reserves, it won't have much impact on the current circulating supply.

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Who controls (hoard) the supply, controls the price.

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They call it reserve, that means those bitcoin are for investment and future profits purpose,  so for that reason,  at some point they will definitely sell off their Bitcoin holdings when the profits is ok for the country, also we shouldn't think that because such a big country's holding Bitcoin reserves will stop Bitcoin from dumping in price or even mark an all time high bill market.

Volatility is what Bitcoin is know for and we have to agree withbthat fact that Volatility will always have it ways innthe bitcoin market and it ecosystem.

We shouldn't expect so much from their engagement with bitcoin and even their bitcoin holdings is quite small compared to that of others .
When a government consider bitcoin a reserve, that means they wouldn't sell it. It becomes store of value and trump has formalized the executive order about it.

It's not like some random company portfolio where they can rotate around their asset. Entirely different thing.
But they will sell their bitcoin regardless whether that be from other sources where they have accumulated it from. From confiscations due to criminal activity, auction or other means.
These are not included in their bitcoin reserve so they are free to do what they want with those acquired from those confiscations.
When a country classifies Bitcoin as part of its reserve, it’s treated as a store of value much like gold or foreign currency reserves the intention is not to trade it frequently or sell it for quick profit but to hold it as a long term strategic asset it represents strength and diversification rather than a speculative position so those particular Bitcoin reserves are unlikely to be sold unless the nation faces a financial crisis or a major economic shift. However, governments do end up selling Bitcoin that isn’t part of their reserve holdings coins confiscated through criminal cases or seized from illegal activities are different they are not categorized under national reserves these are usually auctioned off or liquidated because they are treated as recovered assets rather than investments.

The volatility of Bitcoin still remains regardless of who holds it even if countries or large institutions add it to their balance sheets it doesn’t stop the natural cycles of the market Bitcoin will always swing because that volatility is part of its design and what makes it valuable for traders and risky for others. The role of government participation might give the market a sense of legitimacy and stability in the long term but it won’t erase the short term ups and downs in the end Bitcoin’s price will continue to move based on global sentiment demand and market cycles not just on who holds it in their reserves.

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November 11, 2025, 10:18:11 AM
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Tbh, I wouldn’t say “never.” Govs change rules all the time when it fits their goals. Right now it’s bullish, yeah, they’re treating BTC like digital gold. But if markets crash or they need liquidity, they could tweak the law. If other countries copy this tho, that’s huge  less BTC on exchanges, tighter supply, price could go nuts long term.

Most definitely, that is true.

They are not into BTC due to its ideals, but because they will have profit and more details on people from it (if said people would go to centralized entities for BTC and so on..).

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The U.S government is making Bitcoin a strategic reserve doesn't mean they dump BTC again. For the record, they have a lot of BTC seized from Silk Road in 2020, and more, which is worth over 3Billion dollars now.
What they want to do is put the BTC into good use instead of selling it, like what the German government did this year. However, it is a good thing for crypto in general because it shows a bold sign that the government acknowledges BTC.
Meanwhile, we should be ready for what will happen in the future when they want to sell their holding.

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November 11, 2025, 11:30:59 AM
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The government can still sell even if bitcoin becomes a strategic reserve but they will only sell in urgent cases to serve the economy. They won't sell it because the price has gone too high and the profit is too great.

Yes, national reserves are completely different from the so-called investment portfolio.

But we need to be clear that the strategic bitcoin reserve signed by Trump has not reached that level yet. His administration could sell it at any time, or a successor administration could easily do so with just another decree. Because the strategic bitcoin reserve signed by Trump is not an official national reserve like the gold the United States holds.

This reminds me of what Germany did, assuming they hold the coin at this price, they will be 2 times billionaire at the price they sold and that makes me worry about this strategic government pretence towards Bitcoin as reserved. Institutionals are well understood, we know they are using their money to acquire bitcoin and they have obligations to sell when they want to, we will get used to it eventually and that fear will be gone one day. However, I'm not confident with the way the government is moving.

I want US to lead by example to acquire Bitcoin and not all this gimmick of using seize Bitcoin, it doesn't create demand rather its bringing forceful centralization. I read yesterday that Kazakhstan plan to used seize crypto assets as reserve including funds illegal miners. This is even more scarier, I don't support crime, I don't support fraud but I feel, if you love Bitcoin that much and you value it then come to the market and get yours, it's high time the hypocrisy need to stop. This is why insist that if US buy Bitcoin, the rest the countries will do the same, you can see they are practically doing exactly what the US said they plan to do with their Bitcoin reserve.

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November 11, 2025, 11:53:32 AM
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The U.S government is making Bitcoin a strategic reserve doesn't mean they dump BTC again. For the record, they have a lot of BTC seized from Silk Road in 2020, and more, which is worth over 3Billion dollars now.
What they want to do is put the BTC into good use instead of selling it, like what the German government did this year. However, it is a good thing for crypto in general because it shows a bold sign that the government acknowledges BTC.
Meanwhile, we should be ready for what will happen in the future when they want to sell their holding.


The US government are already holding Bitcoin In there reserve they made a law and Yes those Bitcoin are Bitcoin that they seize from criminals and they did a very nice thing by not selling it immediately, I love trump for that, in the future the US government will generate more revenue from that investment and they made a law that those Bitcoin won't be sold so before they can sell that Bitcoin they have to pass through some proces.
Again it is important to know that the US government didn't purchase any of the Bitcoin they are holding right now in there reserve all was seized from criminals or those who went against the law.
We will be ready when they sell, the only thing that can happen is that there will be a dip in Bitcoin but it will still recover, I don't see US government selling there Bitcoin any time soon.

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November 11, 2025, 12:03:33 PM
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The U.S government is making Bitcoin a strategic reserve doesn't mean they dump BTC again. For the record, they have a lot of BTC seized from Silk Road in 2020, and more, which is worth over 3Billion dollars now.
What they want to do is put the BTC into good use instead of selling it, like what the German government did this year. However, it is a good thing for crypto in general because it shows a bold sign that the government acknowledges BTC.
Meanwhile, we should be ready for what will happen in the future when they want to sell their holding.


The situation with German case is brought up many times, but they were (as far as I know) obliged to get rid of the coins that were in their hands the way they got to them, that's why they did it.

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November 12, 2025, 10:06:12 AM
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The U.S government is making Bitcoin a strategic reserve doesn't mean they dump BTC again. For the record, they have a lot of BTC seized from Silk Road in 2020, and more, which is worth over 3Billion dollars now.
What they want to do is put the BTC into good use instead of selling it, like what the German government did this year. However, it is a good thing for crypto in general because it shows a bold sign that the government acknowledges BTC.
Meanwhile, we should be ready for what will happen in the future when they want to sell their holding.


The US government are already holding Bitcoin In there reserve they made a law and Yes those Bitcoin are Bitcoin that they seize from criminals and they did a very nice thing by not selling it immediately, I love trump for that, in the future the US government will generate more revenue from that investment and they made a law that those Bitcoin won't be sold so before they can sell that Bitcoin they have to pass through some proces.
Again it is important to know that the US government didn't purchase any of the Bitcoin they are holding right now in there reserve all was seized from criminals or those who went against the law.
We will be ready when they sell, the only thing that can happen is that there will be a dip in Bitcoin but it will still recover, I don't see US government selling there Bitcoin any time soon.
I like your optimism but ordinary people and the media won't know the exact day the government are going to go through the process of selling the Bitcoin until the movement is shown on blockchain and I believe it is not all Bitconers (that include me) that know the wallet address holding the BTC so I will advice not to totally bank on waiting for their process. However, I don't see the US government selling Bitcoin now.

The U.S government is making Bitcoin a strategic reserve doesn't mean they dump BTC again. For the record, they have a lot of BTC seized from Silk Road in 2020, and more, which is worth over 3Billion dollars now.
What they want to do is put the BTC into good use instead of selling it, like what the German government did this year. However, it is a good thing for crypto in general because it shows a bold sign that the government acknowledges BTC.
Meanwhile, we should be ready for what will happen in the future when they want to sell their holding.


The situation with German case is brought up many times, but they were (as far as I know) obliged to get rid of the coins that were in their hands the way they got to them, that's why they did it.
Obliged to sell the BTC they ought to hold for some years to help their country's economy? Who ordered the sale of the BTC when some countries are using it as a strategic reserve after seeking professional economic advice.
I believe the decision was made in haste or there's something shady going on which the German government is not telling the public.

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