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November 01, 2025, 11:18:29 AM
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people that are tired of being poor need to make all the efforts within their capacity to leap out of poverty.
This is a very powerful statement, and it’s true that self determination plays a vital role in improving a person’s financial situation. However, it’s also important to recognize that not everyone starts from the same level of opportunity. Effort actually matter a lot, but access to education, and economic systems also play big roles. Still, having the mindset to push forward and make use of what is within your control is the first and most important step toward breaking free from poverty.

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November 01, 2025, 12:45:11 PM
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This is a very powerful statement, and it’s true that self determination plays a vital role in improving a person’s financial situation. However, it’s also important to recognize that not everyone starts from the same level of opportunity. Effort actually matter a lot, but access to education, and economic systems also play big roles. Still, having the mindset to push forward and make use of what is within your control is the first and most important step toward breaking free from poverty.
Many of us started with nothing, but I was lucky enough to save from a young age. I read a few books in my youth that I adopted. Even when I was earning very little I still saved, and as my income grew, I saved more and more. Then I learned how to invest money and generate income from my assets. It's all fascinating, and I did it all so it would allow me to not have to work. Now I can say that we only need to work to gain the necessary experience, and then either start your own business or live off passive income if you can. Living your whole life just to go to work is the hardest path, and one I definitely wouldn't want to take.

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November 01, 2025, 02:10:07 PM
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I realize that all the sweat and hard work we put in is just to keep the wheels turning, not to improve your financial situation. You've explained it very well, OP. Income remains stagnant while the cost of living continues to rise, and inflation continues to eat away at our savings.

I often hear the adage from conglomerates that, "If you choose to work, you will continue to live in poverty until you die."

Rich people have an open and broad mindset. They look at various perspectives and then develop a plan. For example, when they are still poor, they start by working for several years and accumulating all their money in clear, potentially profitable investment assets in the long term, like Bitcoin. Once the annual profit percentage is sufficient to cover their living expenses, they will stop working and focus on becoming investors. This is why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

Work smarter, not harder.

I always heard such things from articles and sometimes from CEOs, but when you think about it - it's truly the case Wink

What you hear from CEOs is true, working smart helps us to be a little bit superior to most people who work hard, usually people who work smart they can see all the opportunities that are in front of their eyes and then try to execute them. working smart can minimize sweat from your body but the benefits can be greater than working hard, but in my opinion this is not working smart or hard the point is about being sensitive to opportunities, being brave and consistent.

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November 01, 2025, 02:42:18 PM
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people that are tired of being poor need to make all the efforts within their capacity to leap out of poverty.
This is a very powerful statement, and it’s true that self determination plays a vital role in improving a person’s financial situation. However, it’s also important to recognize that not everyone starts from the same level of opportunity. Effort actually matter a lot, but access to education, and economic systems also play big roles. Still, having the mindset to push forward and make use of what is within your control is the first and most important step toward breaking free from poverty.
The most important thing is mindset, and we strive for it because great things can only be achieved through hard work Especially changing one's fate from poverty to wealth, This is quite difficult for some, but it can certainly be achieved with strong determination, hard work and consistency.

If we are born into a poor family we seem to work for a living It's undeniable It's bitter, but it's the reality.

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November 01, 2025, 03:11:16 PM
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Sometimes it feels like no matter how much we earn, the cost of living keeps climbing faster. Food, rent, electricity, even transportation, everything seems to demand a bigger slice of the paycheck. People are spending more hours working, but what they can afford with that work keeps shrinking.

So the question remains: are we really working to live… or just living to work?

Its real reality are facing right now by all people I don't think in one country only but around the world have the same cases such as telling by OP, we are working daily day and spent out more than 12 to 15 hours daily to work but still not enough yet back up our daily day needed. Nowadays cost of living keep climbing faster and easily month by month and in my country Indonesia during close with special moment all the price of basic commodities has increased quite significantly but the salaries received have not increased at all.

Nothing we can't do exactly in my country have high the living cost but ratio salary payment most cheapest than other development countries such as Thailand, Singapore or difference huge amount salary payment if comparison with my country. So must enjoying we are really working to live can't spent more for enjoying our life, not matter how many hours working in daily day but still not enough yet to back up how much living cost nowadays.

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November 01, 2025, 06:44:01 PM
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Sometimes it feels like no matter how much we earn, the cost of living keeps climbing faster. Food, rent, electricity, even transportation, everything seems to demand a bigger slice of the paycheck. People are spending more hours working, but what they can afford with that work keeps shrinking.

Inflation quietly eats into savings, and most salaries never catch up. Productivity keeps rising, but real wages have barely moved in decades. The system keeps asking for more output, more hours, more efficiency, yet most workers still feel stuck in the same place.

It makes you wonder if the goal was ever financial freedom at all, or just keeping the wheel spinning.

In times like this, some turn to Bitcoin and other decentralized assets as a hedge, not just against inflation, but against a system that seems built to make people dependent.

So the question remains: are we really working to live… or just living to work?


This has to be a worldwide crisis honestly, there's a saying(I'm paraphrasing) that if you love what you do, it's not "work" anymore. But at this point, even that isn't enough as it's just the same tedious cycle, working to survive, less and less with family.
OP framed it perfectly "living to work" a sad reality
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November 01, 2025, 08:09:21 PM
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Unfortunately, I don't think I have the answer for that, because it's a big area to cover! But one thing I can say is that, sometimes I feel like as we grow up as our income increased so does our demands! I mean just think, when we had less our demands were also less. But now that we have started working, our demands also starter rising. It's not how it used to be! Five years ago, I may have 10 bucks and I couldn't fulfill all my wish, now I have 100 (assuming), still unable to fulfill it. I guess that's called life! So I can't really differentiate between whether we are working to live or living to work...really going with the flow I guess...

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November 01, 2025, 08:10:54 PM
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What you fail to understand is that the cycle of life is a common pattern. It is inevitable for most humans - birth, growth, work, family, aging, and death. However, it is not always like that to all of us, because we have the right to decide in some certain areas. For example, we can choose to have a family or not. But we cant choose to die or not, age or stay young forever. The same thing is applicable to work. If you dont work, you cant afford the basic things of life, so yeah we actually working to live.

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November 01, 2025, 09:11:40 PM
 #189

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So the question remains: are we really working to live… or just living to work?

Everyone wants to work and just enjoy their life from the money they are making but the reality is just upside down, we are just running to keep the food on the table and just stay in our regular lifestyle. It is the curse of living a life within the shell and there is only one way to break is to make more money which is possible too and those who are ready to do to achieve that goal.

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November 01, 2025, 09:37:28 PM
Last edit: November 03, 2025, 05:59:45 PM by AmoreJaz
 #190

Unfortunately, I don't think I have the answer for that, because it's a big area to cover! But one thing I can say is that, sometimes I feel like as we grow up as our income increased so does our demands! I mean just think, when we had less our demands were also less. But now that we have started working, our demands also starter rising. It's not how it used to be! Five years ago, I may have 10 bucks and I couldn't fulfill all my wish, now I have 100 (assuming), still unable to fulfill it. I guess that's called life! So I can't really differentiate between whether we are working to live or living to work...really going with the flow I guess...

What we can do is sit down and assess our needs. Why is it that years back, where we had less money, we can survive, and yet, we need a lot more today. So what changed? Because more than likely, most of us are working to live, as we need to address the basic necessities to survive and of course, buy some luxuries from time to time. But for some, they already planned their retirement and so once they reached certain age, they are already ready to face their retirement from the hustle and bustle of a corporate life.

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November 01, 2025, 09:57:31 PM
 #191

What we can do is sit down and assess our needs. Why is it that years back, where we had less money, we can survive, and yet, we need a lot more today. So what changed? Because more than likely, most of us are working to live, as we need to address the basic necessities to survive.
The average people are still finding it hard to eat what actually they need in a day, they haven't figured out how to beat this demon called hunger so they leaving on earth to only survive and never build, because basic things in life are what they target to accomplish everyday of their life.

So instead working to live, they are spending years living to work. From hand to mouth all day for long time.


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November 02, 2025, 09:51:33 AM
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This has to be a worldwide crisis honestly, there's a saying(I'm paraphrasing) that if you love what you do, it's not "work" anymore. But at this point, even that isn't enough as it's just the same tedious cycle, working to survive, less and less with family.
OP framed it perfectly "living to work" a sad reality

Although you imagine a sad reality because of the framing of living to work. So I also want to know how someone lives without working and without thinking about money for their daily needs, which are generally just to fill their stomachs. Family certainly deserves to be well-cared for and should be our best support when things don't work out, but spending more time with family to the point of not wanting to work isn't a very good option for those who still live modestly and don't have much money in this world. So, living to work is a worthy thing, even though it also includes worship, rest, and time with beloved family. But we all surely realize that making our family happy also requires money.

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What you fail to understand is that the cycle of life is a common pattern. It is inevitable for most humans - birth, growth, work, family, aging, and death. However, it is not always like that to all of us, because we have the right to decide in some certain areas. For example, we can choose to have a family or not. But we cant choose to die or not, age or stay young forever. The same thing is applicable to work. If you dont work, you cant afford the basic things of life, so yeah we actually working to live.

As one singer said: "Life is a game in which we're dealt a hand of cards from birth", and unfortunately, these cards are often stacked against us, because most people are born into wealth with literally two aces up their sleeves. They may not work their entire lives and never know what it's like to wake up early and listen to the boss yell at them, so it's all completely unfair. Unfortunately, we are truly born to work and earn money for the rest of our lives. But our goal is to provide for our children, so that life is easier for them.

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Today at 06:54:35 AM
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What we can do is sit down and assess our needs. Why is it that years back, where we had less money, we can survive, and yet, we need a lot more today. So what changed? Because more than likely, most of us are working to live, as we need to address the basic necessities to survive and of course, buy some luxuries from time to time. But for some, they already planned their retirement and so once they reached certain age, they are already ready to face their retirement from the hustle and bustle of a corporate life.
Here I think that human nature is like this. Because as people's income increases their consumption demand also increases. But when income decreases the demand remains as high as before. In that case, people become unhappy. So  that's why I think we live mainly to earn money. But people who have low incomes may work to survive. Because if you don't eat due to lack of money, who will come and ask you if you have eaten or not. So in my opinion, we should definitely keep our desires low, by doing this we can be happy in life.

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Everyone wants to work and just enjoy their life from the money they are making but the reality is just upside down, we are just running to keep the food on the table and just stay in our regular lifestyle. It is the curse of living a life within the shell and there is only one way to break is to make more money which is possible too and those who are ready to do to achieve that goal.

What's the difference, working to live, living to work aren't they the same thing. You can't live without working for money and you can't be working for money then you don't live. Both are working hand in hand but what's important is that we enjoy life while we still have it. You don't have to over work yourself to death and neither should you abandon work because you want to enjoy life. Everything should be done in equilibrium that it doesn't affect one another but balance your life. A little fun here and there then work to generate money that can be used to sustain life.

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Today at 09:43:19 AM
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Sometimes it feels like no matter how much we earn, the cost of living keeps climbing faster. Food, rent, electricity, even transportation, everything seems to demand a bigger slice of the paycheck. People are spending more hours working, but what they can afford with that work keeps shrinking.

Inflation quietly eats into savings, and most salaries never catch up. Productivity keeps rising, but real wages have barely moved in decades. The system keeps asking for more output, more hours, more efficiency, yet most workers still feel stuck in the same place.

It makes you wonder if the goal was ever financial freedom at all, or just keeping the wheel spinning.

In times like this, some turn to Bitcoin and other decentralized assets as a hedge, not just against inflation, but against a system that seems built to make people dependent.

So the question remains: are we really working to live… or just living to work?

The current situation is going from bad to worse. The more paper money the government prints to keep itself running well, the more inflation is happening. People's trust in paper money is getting weaker than before, which is why people are now focusing on Bitcoin or decentralized assets.

Just as gold was a way to store wealth in the past, Bitcoin is now acting as the digital gold of the digital age. So to solve these problems, many investors keep a part of their assets in Bitcoin so that the value does not decrease due to printing money.

Finally, I would like to give a message to everyone - Bitcoin will protect us from inflation because it cannot be printed at will like money and its value is much more likely to remain stable than money in the long run.

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Today at 11:44:27 AM
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Unfortunately, I don't think I have the answer for that, because it's a big area to cover! But one thing I can say is that, sometimes I feel like as we grow up as our income increased so does our demands! I mean just think, when we had less our demands were also less. But now that we have started working, our demands also starter rising. It's not how it used to be! Five years ago, I may have 10 bucks and I couldn't fulfill all my wish, now I have 100 (assuming), still unable to fulfill it. I guess that's called life! So I can't really differentiate between whether we are working to live or living to work...really going with the flow I guess...

You know, I disagree that as our income increases, our expenses also increase. I've always lived frugally and keep track of all my expenses, never buying anything unnecessary. But I see prices skyrocketing due to inflation, and it turns out my standard of living remains unchanged, as does the amount of goods I can afford. It's frustrating, and I don't see any future prospects because of it. I feel like I'm working harder and harder, but nothing's changing.

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