I would like to know your thoughts about the user Satofan44

[LoyceV]

my concern is what chances does he have to be in your Trust list if you have one (now or in the future)?

I don't think he'll be on DT any time soon:

Trust list for: Satofan44 (Trust: neutral) (383 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2025-10-11_Sat_05.18h)
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Satofan44 Trusts these users' judgement:
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Satofan44 Distrusts these users' judgement:
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Satofan44's judgement is Trusted by:
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~Satofan44's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. babo (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 4326 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. ₿itcoin (Trust: +0 / =0 / -3) (56 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. yahoo62278 (Trust: +37 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (23) 3965 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. NEW Don Pedro Dinero (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (2091 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +27 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (23) 4964 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. Bitcoin Smith (Trust: neutral) (528 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Cricktor (Trust: neutral) (3044 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. God Of Thunder (Trust: +6 / =4 / -0) (DT1! (1) 1310 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. memehunter (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (748 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
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In the last topic about Satofan44's feedback, it became clear he has his own interpretation of the Trust system. It resulted in him collecting more and more Trust exclusions. That's up to him and it's totally fine (albeit undesirable), as this is how the Trust system is supposed to work when someone abuses it.
But I think it's a waste of his talent:

@Satofan44: a bit of unsolicited advice: don't get sucked into The Bitcointalk Drama. Something tells me you enjoy the technical side of the forum much more.

[TheirEgoAtThePeakLevel]

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@AB de Royse777, TheirEgoAtThePeakLevel. They think they only know a lot about Bitcoin Technical.

[JollyGood]

This is interesting. If what you claim is true, he left that bit of information out when he created this thread. May I ask, who instigated the conversation in the first place? Do you have any evidence (such as screenshots) of the conversation?

Did he recommend removing all negative tags that you gave, or only the ones you gave to him?

He opened this thread shortly after privately recommending me to remove the negative feedback. Very trustworthy behavior I recon, right?  

[Zoomic]

Satofan44 is a good user of the forum who has a sound knowledge of the bitcoin technical. There was when his matter first appeared in the reputation board, I checked his feedback page and discovered that he was a bit aggressive. He has his own standard. I wouldn't say his feedbacks were totally inaccurate, rather he uses -ve tag in some obvious cases of neutral tag.

However, the whole issue escalated or backfired because he wasn't rooted in the forum and also he left those tags to some big wings in the forum. Assuming he was already in DT1 and a well known name in the forum before giving the tags, he would simply be feared the more by non established members thereby playing demi-gold like some do in this forum.

[mindrust]

He has serious knowledge about the technicals of crypto but also way too angry.

I sense a great amount of

Nerd rage…

It is fun when you are young but becomes very self destructive and unsustainable as you get older.

Ask any dota player. You won’t see a good 40 years old dota player but from 15 to 25, thats their golden years. The madder they get the better players they become.

“I fucking told you to leave me the mid lane and now you feed him fu i quit”

[Satofan44]

This is interesting. If what you claim is true, he left that bit of information out when he created this thread. May I ask, who instigated the conversation in the first place? Do you have any evidence (such as screenshots) of the conversation?

Did he recommend removing all negative tags that you gave, or only the ones you gave to him?

He opened this thread shortly after privately recommending me to remove the negative feedback. Very trustworthy behavior I recon, right?  

Of course, I have nothing to hide or a reason to lie. He initiated this himself. I'd rather spend my time differently.



I wonder how some users would react if I sent a message like this to someone..

[JollyGood]

I suppose it would have been better (and definitely courteous) to have sent the PM in a completely different manner. He could have worded it much better such as asking why you felt the need to leave a tag or maybe in his opinion the tag was inappropriate. Keeping that aside, what does Royse777 mean by "tba"?

[Satofan44]

I suppose it would have been better (and definitely courteous) to have sent the PM in a completely different manner. He could have worded it much better such as asking why you felt the need to leave a tag or maybe in his opinion the tag was inappropriate. Keeping that aside, what does Royse777 mean by "tba"?

I don't know, usually it could mean to be announced but perhaps he wanted to write tbh? Otherwise I am not sure. In any case I didn't even have a chance to respond, not that I would remove the tag given that the scammed user has not been made whole. This thread came shortly after I didn't answer the message.

[alani123]

From my understanding this user is very passionate about bitcoin politics and decided to give me a negative trust feedback because I hold an opinion not in agreement with his.

So just because I don't like certain recent developments in bitcoin's dev stack I must be not trust worthy based on his assessment? Clearly that's a misuse of the trust system. Probably this user doesn't care through. It's likely a bought account because I can't see someone new to the space having such strong opinions on these topics.

Thanks for the mention because otherwise I would have taken ages to notice. I usually don't trade on this forum so I don't check my feedback frequently. To receive a negative feedback for an opinion expressed about software development sounds crazy to me.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I wouldn't have bothered opening a thread for untrusted feedback. Actually, I just checked and I have two negatives, one I already knew about and another I just realised, from that idiot jvanname, LMAO.

I believe there is no reason to prolong this discussion any further. I think there is consensus that Satofan44 does not use feedback appropriately, and for that reason he is excluded from DT. I also see no reason to continue with the drama, so for my part I am going to stop participating in it.

[AB de Royse777]

Of course, I have nothing to hide or a reason to lie. He initiated this himself. I'd rather spend my time differently.

No-one is hiding anything.
I saw your feedback, assumed you are an asshole, immediately sent you the PM. Then I took the time to check who is this wannabe asshole and found out all those feedback you left for others and realized my assumption was not wrong that you are indeed an asshole. Nothing then stopped me to create this topic (of course your response does not matter to me anymore).

PS: I don't need to care about any manners when I am sending a PM to someone who I assume is an asshole.

More to add as PS: Did I say somewhere, "good understanding with JG"? Yes, I did.

[Satofan44]

Of course, I have nothing to hide or a reason to lie. He initiated this himself. I'd rather spend my time differently.

No-one is hiding anything.
I saw your feedback, assumed you are an asshole, immediately sent you the PM. Then I took the time to check who is this wannabe asshole and found out all those feedback you left for others and realized my assumption was not wrong that you are indeed an asshole. Nothing then stopped me to create this topic (of course your response does not matter to me anymore).

PS: I don't need to care about any manners when I am sending a PM to someone who I assume is an asshole.

More to add as PS: Did I say somewhere, "good understanding with JG"? Yes, I did.

None of this changes that you facilitated an exit scam and have not reimbursed the victim. If something changes you can send me a message me. If it does not change, you are just wasting your time here. I will periodically refresh your negative so that it stays recent. Thanks.

[JollyGood]

You might not be aware but it was Royse777 that continued to manage the Sinbad mixer after I created a thread explaining it was a matter of time before Sinbad would be shutdown by officials because the scammers behind another project were behind it: After Chipmixer, Is Sinbad.io Next To Be Shutdown?

As a result of Sinbad being seized by officials for money laundering purposes, theymos banned mixers in the forum. Had Royse777 stopped promoting Sinbad after I created the thread then maybe mixers would not have been banned at that stage. I suppose arrogance, narcissism and egotistic are some words commonly associated with Royse777. He always suffered from delusions of grandeur because of an overinflated ego.

Had his oversized ego given him space to be flexible and he stopped promoting Sinbad, we might have had a different situation with mixers in the forum. He will always be remembered as the selfish manager that opted to promote the Sinbad scam until it was seized and shut down and forced mixers to be banned in the forum even though he was warned it was inevitable it was going to be seized. Around six months after my warning, it was shutdown.

Anyway, regarding the matter on hand, my understanding is that Royse777 paid the campaign participant victims of the Cointor exit scam but he did not pay anything to the member that sent a six figure amount to the mixer. If that is what happened, I suppose there is not much else Royse777 was supposed to do. Whether he paid the campaign participants from his own funds or from an escrow is irrelevant if they were paid in full. It was a rumour that was never proven that he was part of the project and promoted it with the intention scamming. My advice would be to ignore the rumours.

As for the victim that sent a six figure sum to the scammers and any other victims that sent funds expecting them to be mixed, it is difficult to expect any campaign manager to be held responsible for repaying them if there is an exit-scam. Their priority should be paying the campaign participants that enrolled expecting to be paid.

If the victims of the exit-scam want to blame somebody, they have to blame the scammers first. After that, they have to blame those that facilitated the exit-scam and that may or may not involve the campaign manager or the website/forum showing the ads.

None of this changes that you facilitated an exit scam and have not reimbursed the victim. If something changes you can send me a message me. If it does not change, you are just wasting your time here. I will periodically refresh your negative so that it stays recent. Thanks.

[Satofan44]

As for the victim that sent a six figure sum to the scammers and any other victims that sent funds expecting them to be mixed, it is difficult to expect any campaign manager to be held responsible for repaying them if there is an exit-scam. Their priority should be paying the campaign participants that enrolled expecting to be paid.

If the victims of the exit-scam want to blame somebody, they have to blame the scammers first. After that, they have to blame those that facilitated the exit-scam and that may or may not involve the campaign manager or the website/forum showing the ads.

None of this changes that you facilitated an exit scam and have not reimbursed the victim. If something changes you can send me a message me. If it does not change, you are just wasting your time here. I will periodically refresh your negative so that it stays recent. Thanks.

Mr. Policeman, I am innocent I swear! I didn't know anything about any crime, they just paid me to drive the car. How is this my fault? 
Thanks for the information, I was not aware of these events.

[AB de Royse777]

None of this changes that you facilitated an exit scam and have not reimbursed the victim. If something changes you can send me a message me. If it does not change, you are just wasting your time here. I will periodically refresh your negative so that it stays recent. Thanks.

Had it looked like I cared about your feedback? My concern was to check if you will ever be in DT. Seems like your chances are zero. Maybe JG will give you an add and that's all. Your lose argument logics have no value for me or anyone else who have common sense. I mean look at you and look at me, you are no match for me. Have you wanted to compare your character with gmaxwell? LOL

/topic closed.

[JollyGood]

Mr. Policeman, I am innocent I swear! I didn't know anything about any crime, they just paid me to drive the car. How is this my fault?  

I suppose that seems to be the way Royse777 wanted it to be known. He knew Sinbad was going to be seized by the authorities yet he continued to be their campaign manager.

Thanks for the information, I was not aware of these events.

If you were not using the forum in that time, you would be unaware of certain situations and facts. For example, there was also the Bitlucy scam. Royse777 was a partner in the business, he was proud to claim he held the official title of "Co-Partner and Marketing Director of Bitlucy". That project ended with an exit-scam.

Here are some links that will shed light on what happened:

Re: Royse's connection with Small Rabbit, CEO of BitLucy Scam, Spiroll Scam
Royse [BitLucy Scammer] [Spiroll Contest Rigger] [Account Buyer] - TBU
Bitlucy withdrawal problem, does this acceptable?
Royse777, Bitlucy and long story in brief

Not only was Royse777 incompetent by continuing to manage a mixer after I made it clear (After Chipmixer, Is Sinbad.io Next To Be Shutdown?) it would be shutdown because it was established with money-laundered funds, his actions led to mixers being banned in the forum.

None of this changes that you facilitated an exit scam and have not reimbursed the victim. If something changes you can send me a message me. If it does not change, you are just wasting your time here. I will periodically refresh your negative so that it stays recent. Thanks.

I mean look at you and look at me, you are no match for me.

@Satofan44

Here are some words that come to mind after (unignoring and) reading that post from Royse777:

Narcissist
Egomaniac
Egotistic
Deranged

Ever since the Royse777 account changed hands and came to be in possession of the current operator that renamed it AB de Royse777, his overinflated sense of self-importance has been apparent. It was created and used a lot by a member in the Russian board but then the non-Russian current operator came to be in possession of the account. It was never discovered whether the account was hacked or purchased. He seems to be using it ever since and has created the R7 campaign manager persona.

Your tag on his account must have hurt his ego, that is why he dedicated the time to create this thread specifically in order to discuss you.

Your account was created five months ago therefore we have not really interacted as we are mostly posting if different threads but by reading what others have written, you seem knowledgeable in the technical field but can be a little eager and/or aggressive. Is that how you would describe yourself?

[Satofan44]

Your account was created five months ago therefore we have not really interacted as we are mostly posting if different threads but by reading what others have written, you seem knowledgeable in the technical field but can be a little eager and/or aggressive. Is that how you would describe yourself?

Yeah. With our lovely stand your ground laws, you get a little bit too used to shooting first and asking questions later.  

Ever since the Royse777 account changed hands and came to be in possession of the current operator that renamed it AB de Royse777, his overinflated sense of self-importance has been apparent. It was created and used a lot by a member in the Russian board but then the non-Russian current operator came to be in possession of the account. It was never discovered whether the account was hacked or purchased. He seems to be using it ever since and has created the R7 campaign manager persona.

Your tag on his account must have hurt his ego, that is why he dedicated the time to create this thread specifically in order to discuss you.

I'm then surprised that the Default Trust police men have not given him negative feedback. I am sure that they wouldn't tolerate this amount of shady behavior from most members here. Is it because they've participated in his signature campaigns? That would explain this biased behavior. With those financial incentives it would be no surprise that they are wasting time looking at the feedbacks that I have left instead of scrutinizing shady people like OP.

Aside from you I see only 1 more negative feedback.

[JollyGood]

I cannot recall if the Royse777 account changed hands during the period it was accepted in the forum, or whether it was after accounts being traded began to be frowned upon.

Anyway, he claimed there were reasons he was not going to post in the Russian board again, that was a way of him trying to hide the account came in to his hands but he did create a ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] thread.

How many Russians love cricket, discuss it or even know what it is?

How many Russians knew there was a Sri Lankan player called Malinga and he was going to play his last game?

How many Russians would bet that Bangladesh would beat Sri Lanka?

This one did  

Also, if memory serves there was a time when a member sent a PM to Royse777 in Russian and received a reply back conveniently in perfect Russian. He worked hard to demonstrate he is the original creator of the account.

Keeping that aside, what exactly is the reason behind his animosity towards you?

I'm then surprised that the Default Trust police men have not given him negative feedback. I am sure that they wouldn't tolerate this amount of shady behavior from most members here. Is it because they've participated in his signature campaigns? That would explain this biased behavior. With those financial incentives it would be no surprise that they are wasting time looking at the feedbacks that I have left instead of scrutinizing shady people like OP.

Aside from you I see only 1 more negative feedback.

[Light 10]

Looks like in around 5 months he picked up the understanding of forum feature very well. In fact, in a few weeks (first on 2025-06-16 and 2nd on 2025-06-22) he understood how to use the trust feedback. Which one is his main account?

I think, Satofan44 has another account, d5000 could be this account. Because 57 merits or whatever you call them have been transferred from d5000 to Satofan44. Again, Satofan44 gave him 20 plus back. The reason for giving d5000 less is that his previous account came to the forum on March 09, 2013. At that time, he already had the Legendary rank.

The reason I suspect this is because they both criticized and transferred qualifications on one of their discussion boards. And most of them posted at the same time.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/10/19/UMgLL8.jpeg

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/10/19/UMgcq3.jpeg

Please check the link below and give your opinion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5547807.msg65564868#msg65564868

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5504639.msg65648924#msg65648924

[Satofan44]

Keeping that aside, what exactly is the reason behind his animosity towards you?

I've never interacted with him prior to his latest mixer scam. It must just be the negative feedback from a member that is not even in Default Trust, yes it seems that he is that shallow and vulnerable. Perhaps someone asked about it and he's just too much of a pussy to admit it.

I think, Satofan44 has another account, d5000 could be this account. Because 57 merits or whatever you call them have been transferred from d5000 to Satofan44. Again, Satofan44 gave him 20 plus back. The reason for giving d5000 less is that his previous account came to the forum on March 09, 2013. At that time, he already had the Legendary rank.

The reason I suspect this is because they both criticized and transferred qualifications on one of their discussion boards. And most of them posted at the same time.

Good try mr. alt account. Luckily for me I didn't publish my project with d5000 yet.    d5000 is much more understanding towards third world, cow or pedophile worshiping retards than I am.

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