Member card in physical casinos, better or worse?

[SATWAT]

Making cards mandatory brings another shift in the gambling world, making it easier and more digitalized for the users. It has pros and cons, but the thing you mentioned was a fact, that the card is a kind of gold mine for the casino. They now know when you enter and leave, how much you win and lose, which one is your favorite game, and your bets. But somehow, the card is now easy to carry, and you don't have to hold cash at casinos while moving from one machine to another.

Things like these are tactics or marketing because too many casinos are having loyalty or things like these which are encouraging peoples for having more wagering and increase their rank and also have bonuses which are surely never been worth to their money and time but still things are working.
It's not only physical now online casinos are also having feature and its giving them good response just because of this now everyone is going with his own way and bringing new features and bonuses increasingly in last few months for me its always serious trouble because peoples surely always looking for something which always hurt them in long run.
In coming days things could be much improved because as technology is going advance companies are increasing their work and this is always interesting what is next into their pocket for having more intention of community.

[TheUltraElite]

If they ask for getting a physical card to play, its similar to creating an account on an online casino. They will individually track a players wins losses and their time spent among other things.

Of course this data can be used to get the idea of what promotion they can push towards that user.

I have little idea about this because physical casinos almost dont exist from which I live but this seems like how it should run.

[Mahanton]

People will not like to play in physical casino because they don't want to be expose to were many people will see and notice that they are into gambling, so that is why most people preferred online gambling casino

People who will prefer using a physical kind of gambling card on casino is people who is not hiding anything about gambling and they are also people who love a gambling so for me I will prefer online gambling casino where everything will be in secret and the nobody will know my way about in gambling and if I lose I know that I lose without the awareness of anyone but the way I'm seeing this physical kind of gambling casino that are requires membership card or member card I think they will physical record for the machine that accepts the card.

Many gamblers choose online casinos because they value privacy they don’t want others to know that they gamble and the internet gives them that cover no one sees their face, no one asks questions, and losses stay hidden that sense of secrecy is part of what makes online gambling so popular you can play from anywhere, stop anytime, and no one around you will ever know.

Physical casinos are different they are open, social, and filled with people who come to play, watch, or just enjoy the environment not everyone is comfortable with that especially those who fear judgment or gossip from others membership cards make it even more personal since they record activity, winnings, and time spent it’s useful for the casino but not so much for players who want anonymity. Online gambling feels safer in that sense but it also comes with its own risks since it’s easier to access and harder to control time and spending for someone who wants to gamble quietly and manage things privately, online casinos fit perfectly they allow freedom and privacy that physical casinos simply can’t offer.

[Iroh]

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

I don't know about tracking players, but I think its more like a database to know their players and just how many they've got. That database  would then help in their marketing and advertising departments on how best to go about targeting a certain group or demographic in the population, keep their customers and more importantly, how to lure in new players.
If you play with some good money, winning or losing whenever you visit, the casino probably knows who you are and what you do. Perhaps the account card is for convenience on both sides but favoring the casinos far better.

[mak013]

Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

Cmon, it is cheating. If someone can catch any casino on it - it would break reputation of all casinos. The result of it would be inspections to lots of casinos, that could find some other problems. No one need it. Casino is interested in gamblers, they would lose money themselves, casino doesn`t need do something more.
But they can analyze your games, your bets, and choose some bonuses, advertisement for you that would help you to spend more money.

[Finestream]

Cmon, it is cheating. If someone can catch any casino on it - it would break reputation of all casinos. The result of it would be inspections to lots of casinos, that could find some other problems. No one need it. Casino is interested in gamblers, they would lose money themselves, casino doesn`t need do something more.
But they can analyze your games, your bets, and choose some bonuses, advertisement for you that would help you to spend more money.

How is that cheating? You chose to use their cards for gambling, and if they put chips or trackers to monitor play it still looks like something they can do in their own venue. I don’t see what law that would break.

I’d be glad to be proven wrong though, if you’re saying it’s illegal, post the exact law or rule that backs that up. Otherwise it sounds like a house policy or a civil issue, not a criminal one.

[Fredomago]

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There's value on it, unless the casino is not trustable then there's a possibility that they might be using those details agains the end users, but if the casino already have good reputation they value their customers and they wanted to have them keep going back, there's no use of doing any possibility of doiing something fishy but instead give them that space and enjoyment to have them bring more deposit to the business.

Data is the new gold, they can use it however they want and I am pretty sure they will share with an analytics company to identify their high-value customers and offer them extra perks to retain their engagement. Once something goes on recods there can be no assurance that it is not used in the way we don't like it.

It is one of the reason why crypto casinos became popular a decade ago, it was completely anonymous and users can just deposit and withdraw there will be no records but those days are long gone now.

Indeed, I use to remember a casino site before where you can place your bet just by sending your crypto to a certain wallet and wait for the outcome, the site will be the one that automatically send back your money together with your initial deposit if you win your bet, those are the days where crypto users can gamble anonymously.

And agree to that, data information is the new gold now, since those who can get that details from you can use it to whatever they want and whatever they'll be able to allowed.

[stompix]

What do you think?

They are not mandatory, casinos are not using it to some reptilian malicious conspiracy but in order to keep troublesome players or players who are on the self-exclusion list out in an easier way, it's way easier to avoid minors getting in and playing and more importantly than anything, you can stay away from mules that launder money in your casino with it.

It's not always about the money, there a ton of other things land casinos need to be careful with and membership cards solve a ton of problems.

[giorgione]

What do you think?

They are not mandatory, casinos are not using it to some reptilian malicious conspiracy but in order to keep troublesome players or players who are on the self-exclusion list out in an easier way, it's way easier to avoid minors getting in and playing and more importantly than anything, you can stay away from mules that launder money in your casino with it.

It's not always about the money, there a ton of other things land casinos need to be careful with and membership cards solve a ton of problems.

Well, certainly dealing with a casino that doesn't check documents and allows minors to gamble is a very important red flag that needs to be considered. It's something that should lead to the distancing of people who can't continue to gamble with them. Those who do so have something to hide.

[GigaBit]

In this case, I have some belief that new gamblers have a higher chance of winning. Maybe it is given by the casino itself. But there is no proof of this. No one can say that he is new so he has won more.  I have reviewed my gambling history and found that when I was a gambler at the beginning, my winning ratio was good. There may be a purpose for the casino to track the account where they understand the motives of gamblers, what kind of games they want to play and what they do when they win and what their motives are when they lose. Tracking players can definitely be a positive aspect for them.

[Akbarkoe]

Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

I think previously only membership cards were used to count people who played in casinos and this was used as their customer database, and also led to digitalization to make things easier for players in this modern world, just like how we do in online casinos, we have our own accounts which are verified, and they also see the activities we do on their casino machines, and our activities should also be monitored by them, that's not a problem, this is a normal thing, just like you have a membership card at  mini markets, most of them provide them to see how you spend your money and what you buy.

However, your suspicions are baseless, casino games should have been tested and not controlled by them, unless they are really doing something wrong with the developers (or some kind of control knob to manipulate each spin).

[SatoPrincess]

People will not like to play in physical casino because they don't want to be expose to were many people will see and notice that they are into gambling, so that is why most people preferred online gambling casino

People who will prefer using a physical kind of gambling card on casino is people who is not hiding anything about gambling and they are also people who love a gambling so for me I will prefer online gambling casino where everything will be in secret and the nobody will know my way about in gambling and if I lose I know that I lose without the awareness of anyone but the way I'm seeing this physical kind of gambling casino that are requires membership card or member card I think they will physical record for the machine that accepts the card.

That could be a reason but I think for most the reason they prefer online casinos to physical casinos is convenience. Unless there is some sort of side attraction or event happening at the casino I’m not going to leave my apartment to go to a casino.

[cryptoaddictchie]

How's the ambience in Solaire North though, maybe I will give it a try one of this days.  

Oh they also have this kind of tier in terms of the card. Obviously, the bigger the money that you spend on casinos, the better the tier of your card and more benefits.

Since I never tried to register for a card I cant compared much. But the ambiance is good but those you went are bigger in my opinion since I also went there sometimes. But since theres a closer one in my place now Id prefer there in solaire North. Wow it seems like you played a lot bases on your story. Thats cool to know dude.

Maybe I tried to register when I go there this week as I like the one you mentioned perks. Maybe theres not much difference I guess.

[AmoreJaz]

In this case, I have some belief that new gamblers have a higher chance of winning. Maybe it is given by the casino itself. But there is no proof of this. No one can say that he is new so he has won more.  I have reviewed my gambling history and found that when I was a gambler at the beginning, my winning ratio was good. There may be a purpose for the casino to track the account where they understand the motives of gamblers, what kind of games they want to play and what they do when they win and what their motives are when they lose. Tracking players can definitely be a positive aspect for them.

We can't say such as this will be very difficult to prove. If it is happening, it will be the casino itself who can attest such. But because we are in the digital age, casinos are also adapting this technological evolution. Hence, it will be easy for them to track their patrons and what's happening on their account. So not to really expect something anything from the casino, always consider that when you play it is owed to your luck and not because of casino's influence. Because in the first place, casino should not in any way influence the results of the game. Otherwise, once found out, their business is doomed to collapse.

[batang_bitcoin]

We can't say such as this will be very difficult to prove. If it is happening, it will be the casino itself who can attest such. But because we are in the digital age, casinos are also adapting this technological evolution. Hence, it will be easy for them to track their patrons and what's happening on their account.

That's the purpose why cards are made. It's true that they have to know and track what's happening to their customers. And if some problem occurs, all they have to do is to look at their records to figure out easily if something is wrong with their system and why there's all of a sudden changes and big wins that has happen. But if proven all of those things are to be legitimate, they'd surely spare them and will allow to withdraw the winnings that they deserve.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

We can't say such as this will be very difficult to prove. If it is happening, it will be the casino itself who can attest such. But because we are in the digital age, casinos are also adapting this technological evolution. Hence, it will be easy for them to track their patrons and what's happening on their account.

That's the purpose why cards are made. It's true that they have to know and track what's happening to their customers. And if some problem occurs, all they have to do is to look at their records to figure out easily if something is wrong with their system and why there's all of a sudden changes and big wins that has happen. But if proven all of those things are to be legitimate, they'd surely spare them and will allow to withdraw the winnings that they deserve.

Yeah, but you can also have the option that even if you have the physical card, you might not want to use them after all. So they can't really track where yo are playing except that there is a eye on the sky to watch your every move.

They can just verify it in the place right away if you won big or if there are some problems in that machine. But it seldom does in a land base casinos, as compare to online wherein they might not give you your winning on the spot. As for the cards, yes, the perks might be really enticing for players to register and then take advantage of it.

[Cointxz]

We can't say such as this will be very difficult to prove. If it is happening, it will be the casino itself who can attest such. But because we are in the digital age, casinos are also adapting this technological evolution. Hence, it will be easy for them to track their patrons and what's happening on their account.

That's the purpose why cards are made. It's true that they have to know and track what's happening to their customers. And if some problem occurs, all they have to do is to look at their records to figure out easily if something is wrong with their system and why there's all of a sudden changes and big wins that has happen. But if proven all of those things are to be legitimate, they'd surely spare them and will allow to withdraw the winnings that they deserve.

Casino withdrawal decline is very rare to happened especially on reputable physical casino because they have a license and regulated strictly compared to online casino with Curacao license.

This member card sure works to track players for bonuses and recordings required by the law.

But they can’t use it to freeze user withdrawals just because a player winning big.

[batang_bitcoin]

We can't say such as this will be very difficult to prove. If it is happening, it will be the casino itself who can attest such. But because we are in the digital age, casinos are also adapting this technological evolution. Hence, it will be easy for them to track their patrons and what's happening on their account.

That's the purpose why cards are made. It's true that they have to know and track what's happening to their customers. And if some problem occurs, all they have to do is to look at their records to figure out easily if something is wrong with their system and why there's all of a sudden changes and big wins that has happen. But if proven all of those things are to be legitimate, they'd surely spare them and will allow to withdraw the winnings that they deserve.

Yeah, but you can also have the option that even if you have the physical card, you might not want to use them after all. So they can't really track where yo are playing except that there is a eye on the sky to watch your every move.

They can just verify it in the place right away if you won big or if there are some problems in that machine. But it seldom does in a land base casinos, as compare to online wherein they might not give you your winning on the spot. As for the cards, yes, the perks might be really enticing for players to register and then take advantage of it.

That's also a good point. And we have a choice that we won't use the cards after all but, I think that the perks will make us convinced of using them and that's why they have put it in there.

Casino withdrawal decline is very rare to happened especially on reputable physical casino because they have a license and regulated strictly compared to online casino with Curacao license.

This member card sure works to track players for bonuses and recordings required by the law.

But they can’t use it to freeze user withdrawals just because a player winning big.

I agree, it shouldn't be used for freezing users money just because for genuinely winning big. That's why they conduct investigations about that and if there's no reason for them to do it, they eventually releases the money after all.

[Orpichukwu]

In this case, I have some belief that new gamblers have a higher chance of winning. Maybe it is given by the casino itself. But there is no proof of this. No one can say that he is new so he has won more.  I have reviewed my gambling history and found that when I was a gambler at the beginning, my winning ratio was good. There may be a purpose for the casino to track the account where they understand the motives of gamblers, what kind of games they want to play and what they do when they win and what their motives are when they lose. Tracking players can definitely be a positive aspect for them.

This feeling of new players always having an advantage to winning more than old gamblers is not new; a lot of people have felt this way, but in reality everyone is just having a fair share of the game. The casino might not alter the game outcome.

Tracking players' behavior by the casino will help in thequick granting of a bonus that will suit the player based on their game option.

[letteredhub]

Physical casinos used to be able to be played without an account and just cash. This was one of the main advantages.
But probably they realized that tracking player habits even on the individual level was too valuable to miss and started making player accounts mandatory.

Now to play at any machine at a physical casino, you can't just drip some cash in, you need to insert a card.
This way the casino knows who has played what, which game you won what on etc.

I'm having a suspicion some casinos might even use their ability to track player to lure new players in with bigger wins only at first runs with small balances. What do you think?

Actually I don't view it as a means to track players habits and how they gamble and with what games in particular, maybe you could be right from your angle. But what if we can see it as a means that even promotes players security as they do not have to be carrying physical cash with them in large sum which could attract attackers when they perceive what the player is in possession of. I think it's just an innovative thought from the physical casino which they would have evaluated the advantages for them and the players before swinging into adopting it over cash.