🚨 BetFury - Systematic RTP Fraud Missing Keno Bet ($64) + False Claims

[kingbj21]

BetFury - Systematic RTP Fraud  Missing Keno Bet ($64), False Claims & Account Restrictions

What happened::

I have been playing on BetFury since early 2025 across multiple cryptocurrencies (USDT, BTTC, SHIB, BFG).
BetFury only provided me with 13,998 hands of recent Blackjack history, claiming they "don't store player data for more than 45 days" - conveniently destroying evidence of systematic fraud spanning months.

Through comprehensive statistical analysis of even this LIMITED 45-day dataset, I discovered systematic unfair gaming operations with currency-based RTP discrimination. The FULL extent of my losses is likely far greater, but BetFury has destroyed the evidence by their own admission.

PRIMARY ISSUE: SYSTEMATIC UNFAIR RTP & CURRENCY DISCRIMINATION

Statistical analysis of my complete betting history reveals impossible outcomes proving systematic manipulation:

Win Rate Analysis:

• Expected win rate (fair Blackjack): ~49.5%
• My observed win rate: 89.03% (12,462 wins / 13,998 total hands)
• Statistical deviation: 93.54 standard deviations from expected
• Probability of this occurring in fair play: < 0.0000000001%

This is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE in a legitimate game. For context, particle physics uses 5σ (5 standard deviations) as the threshold for "discovery" - my result is 93.54σ, which would never occur by chance in the lifetime of the universe.

Currency-Based RTP Discrimination (PROVEN):

Currency	Hands	Total Wagered	Total Won	My RTP	Fair RTP	Status
BFG (house token)	6,996	1,842,214	1,827,896	99.22%	99%+	✓ Fair
USDT (real money)	6,678	$126,285	$118,803	94.08%	99%+	✗ 5.92% house edge
BTTC (crypto)	220	24.9M tokens	17.7M tokens	71.15%	99%+	✗ 28.85% house edge
SHIB (crypto)	56	55,583	46,500	83.66%	99%+	✗ 16.34% house edge

The Pattern: BetFury maintains FAIR RTP for their house token (BFG) to appear legitimate, while systematically exploiting real money (USDT) and other cryptocurrencies with terrible RTPs. 71% BTTC RTP is WORSE than the worst slot machines in Las Vegas.

The Trap - Asymmetric Payouts:

Despite "winning" 89% of hands, I still lost money overall because:

• Average winning payout: 1,583 units (small, frequent)
• Average losing bet: 9,677 units (6.1× LARGER than wins)
• One single BTTC hand lost: 13,794,430 tokens (51% of total BTTC wagered!)

Result: 89 small wins < 11 massive losses = net loss despite high "win rate"

Documented Financial Losses (Excess Beyond Fair 1% House Edge):

• USDT: $7,482 actual loss vs. $1,263 expected = $6,219 excess loss
• BTTC: 7.2M tokens actual loss vs. 249K expected = 6.94M tokens excess loss
• SHIB: 9,083 tokens actual loss vs. 556 expected = 8,527 tokens excess loss

SECONDARY ISSUE: MISSING WINNING BET + CONTRADICTORY EXPLANATIONS

Date: June 19, 2025, ~02:34 AM IST
Game: Keno (USDT)
Bet: $8.00 stake
Result: Interface displayed 8× multiplier (expected payout: $64.00)
Problem: Round NEVER appeared in game history, NO Bet ID generated, NO payout credited

Bet ID shown in interface: 685329c4839c6d7108c479bb
Proof: Screenshots showing the bet details with $8.00 stake, x0.00 multiplier, $0.00 payout

BetFury's FIVE Different Contradictory Explanations:

• First response: "The bet was never placed"
• Second response: "Investigating how post-game states can appear without registration"
• Third response: "It's a visual bug, clear your cache"
• Fourth response: "We have only partial records"
• Final response: "Bet doesn't exist in system, no funds deducted"

These contradictions prove unreliable data integrity and record-keeping.

TERTIARY ISSUE: ACCOUNT ACCESS BLOCKING + PROVEN FALSE CLAIMS

BetFury claimed: "Our logs show no restrictions on your access"

DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF BLOCKING:

• August 19, 2025: Emailed risk@betfury.com reporting complete access block
• August 28, 2025: Emailed support@betfury.com AND risk@betfury.com about continued block
• Current status: Website access blocked without VPN (screenshots available)
• BetFury's own support team recommended: "Use VPN to access site"

This proves they made FALSE CLAIMS in dispute resolution. If there are "no restrictions," why did THEIR support recommend VPN bypass?

BETFURY'S RESPONSE TO FORMAL COMPLAINT

I sent comprehensive evidence including:

• Complete statistical analysis (13,998 transactions)
• Monte Carlo simulation results (10,000 fair games - ZERO achieved my 89% win rate)
• Currency discrimination proof
• Sample size adequacy calculations
• Professional standards comparison

BetFury's Response:

• ✗ Dismissed 13,998 bets as "limited sample size" (mathematically false)
• ✗ Claimed statistical methods "don't apply" to casino games (factually incorrect)
• ✗ Refused to provide RNG audit reports or certification details
• ✗ Refused to provide server logs
• ✗ Provided ZERO counter-evidence
• ✗ Closed case unilaterally with no investigation
• ✗ Made provably false claim about account access

STATISTICAL VALIDATION:

To validate my findings, I ran Monte Carlo simulation:

• Simulated: 10,000 fair Blackjack games
• Hands per game: 13,998
• Expected win rate: 49.5%
• Result: ZERO games achieved ≥89% win rate
• My result has NEVER occurred in simulated fair play

Chi-Square Test: Test statistic = 8,748.98, P-value < 0.0000000001
Binomial Test: Probability of 89% win rate in fair game < 0.000000000000001

Sample Size Adequacy:

• Required sample (95% confidence, 80% power) to detect 39.5% deviation: 13 bets
• My sample: 13,998 bets (1,116× MORE than required)
• Professional standards comparison: Exceeds medical trials (100-1K), political polls (1K-2K), market research (384-1K)

WARNING TO COMMUNITY

BetFury appears to operate a sophisticated scam:

• Maintains fair RTP for house token (BFG) to look legitimate in reviews/tests
• Systematically exploits real money deposits (USDT, BTTC, SHIB) with unfair RTPs
• Creates illusion of winning (89% win rate) while ensuring net loss (massive asymmetric losses)
• Dismisses mathematical proof without counter-evidence
• Makes false claims in dispute resolution
• Blocks account access during complaint investigation
• DESTROYS BETTING HISTORY after 45 days - preventing players from proving long-term fraud

This is not variance. This is not bad luck. This is mathematically proven systematic exploitation.

BITCOINTALK COMMUNITY ACCOUNTABILITY ISSUE:

I am calling out user nutildah for their role in defending BetFury and coordinating attacks against victims.

Timeline of Suspicious Activity:

• While I was documenting issues with Stake, I signed up on BetFury to expose similar practices
• User nutildah was wearing BetFury signature and aware of community complaints about BetFury
• When I raised concerns, nutildah coordinated attacks against me with multiple accounts defending BetFury
• NOW nutildah is NO LONGER wearing BetFury signature - this is NOT a coincidence

Questions for nutildah:

• Why did you defend BetFury so aggressively while wearing their signature?
• What is your relationship with BetFury beyond the signature campaign?
• Did you receive compensation to attack victims raising legitimate concerns?
• Why did you stop wearing BetFury signature right after systematic fraud was exposed?
• Do you have financial stake in BetFury operations?
• Will you apologize to victims you attacked while shilling for a proven scam?

This community must hold accountable those who knowingly shill for scam operations and attack victims.

If nutildah was just a signature campaign participant, they should:

• ✓ Publicly acknowledge BetFury's fraudulent practices
• ✓ Apologize for attacking victims raising legitimate concerns
• ✓ Disclose full nature of relationship with BetFury
• ✓ Support victims in getting refunds

The timing of removing BetFury signature speaks volumes. Either nutildah:

• Knew about the fraud and was paid to defend it, OR
• Was complicit in covering up systematic exploitation, OR
• Has deeper financial ties to BetFury than disclosed

I demand nutildah explain their role in defending BetFury and attacking victims.

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Scammers Profile Link:
https://betfury.com (Casino/Gaming Platform)
License: Curaçao eGaming (License details on their site footer)
Twitter: @BetFury_io

Reference Link:

• BetFury Website: https://betfury.com
• Terms of Service: https://betfury.com/terms
• Provably Fair Claims: https://betfury.com/fairness (claims RNG is certified but refuses to show certification)

However, the systematic nature suggests this affects ALL players betting with USDT, BTTC, SHIB (potentially thousands of players over time).

Payment Method:

• Cryptocurrency deposits (USDT, BTTC, SHIB, BFG)
• Multiple deposits over 3+ months (April-July 2025)
• All deposits on-chain and verifiable

Why This is a SCAM, Not Just Dispute:

This meets the definition of scam because:

• Systematic Deception: Platform advertises fair gaming (99%+ RTP) but delivers 71-94% RTP for real money
• Currency Discrimination: Deliberately maintains fair RTP for house token while exploiting others
• False Advertising: Claims "provably fair" and "certified RNG" but refuses to show certification
• Data Manipulation: Creates illusion of winning (89% win rate) through asymmetric payouts
• Bad Faith Dispute: Dismisses mathematical proof without investigation or counter-evidence
• False Statements: Provably lied about account access restrictions
• Pattern of Exploitation: Systematic design to extract money while appearing fair

Evidence Available:

I have prepared comprehensive evidence packages including:

• ✓ Complete transaction records (13,998 bets, CSV/XLSX format)
• ✓ Statistical analysis report (comprehensive)
• ✓ Monte Carlo simulation code and results
• ✓ Currency discrimination analysis with charts
• ✓ Sample size adequacy calculations
• ✓ Chi-square and binomial probability test results
• ✓ Professional standards comparison
• ✓ All email correspondence
• ✓ Screenshots of missing bet, account blocking, support responses
• ✓ BetFury's dismissive responses refusing accountability

Available for review: [Add Google Drive/Dropbox link with all files]

Call for Other Affected Players:

If you have played on BetFury with USDT, BTTC, or SHIB, CHECK YOUR BETTING HISTORY:

Calculate your RTP: (Total Won ÷ Total Wagered) × 100

Red Flags:

• 🚩 USDT or BTTC RTP below 95%
• 🚩 Win rate above 80% but still net loss overall
• 🚩 One or two massive losses that wiped out weeks of small wins
• 🚩 Better results with BFG than with real money
• 🚩 Missing bets or unexplained discrepancies

If you see these patterns, you may also be a victim.

Please post your findings in this thread if you've experienced similar issues.


Note: All statistical calculations, Monte Carlo simulations, and evidence are available for independent verification. I welcome any statistician or mathematician to review my methodology.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Currency   Hands   Total Wagered   Total Won   My RTP   Fair RTP   Status
BFG (house token)   6,996   1,842,214   1,827,896   99.22%   99%+   ✓ Fair
USDT (real money)   6,678   $126,285   $118,803   94.08%   99%+   ✗ 5.92% house edge
BTTC (crypto)   220   24.9M tokens   17.7M tokens   71.15%   99%+   ✗ 28.85% house edge
SHIB (crypto)   56   55,583   46,500   83.66%   99%+   ✗ 16.34% house edge

I already know your reply but still I want to ask, just for the fun of it. These blackjack "results" and what you think the RTP is, remind me, do you still think that RTP is the same as chance of winning? If yes, I have bad news for you, it's not. 

RTP in blackjack (or another game) has absolutely NOTHING to do with how many games you win or lose, you should finally understand that.

[kingbj21]

RTP in blackjack has absolutely NOTHING to do with how many games you win or lose, you should finally understand that.

Let me make this crystal clear for everyone:

I presented TWO SEPARATE METRICS proving TWO DIFFERENT types of fraud:
- Win Rate (89%): Proves asymmetric payout manipulation
- RTP by Currency: Proves systematic discrimination

BETFURY CONFIRMED MY RTP CALCULATIONS:

BetFury's earlier response to me:
"Your RTP for USDT bets from April to today is 94.07%, with a total of 6,678 bets."
"Your RTP for BFG bets is 99.20%, with 6,982 bets placed."

My calculations: USDT 94.08%, BFG 99.22%
Difference: 0.01% (rounding error)
Result: MY ANALYSIS WAS ACCURATE TO 0.01%

Then BetFury did this:

• ✓ Confirmed my exact RTP calculations
• ✗ Claimed "sample too small" (despite 6,678 bets being 514× MORE than statistically required)
• ✗ Claimed RNG "doesn't discriminate by currency"
• ✗ Provided ZERO explanation for 5-28% RTP differences between currencies
• ✗ Refused to show RNG certification details
• ✗ Lied about account access (I have emails proving blocking on Aug 19, Aug 28)
• ✗ Closed case unilaterally without investigation

THE SMOKING GUN - CURRENCY DISCRIMINATION:

Code:

Currency    RTP        Status
━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━
BFG         99.22%     ✓ Fair (house token)
USDT        94.08%     ✗ 5.14% WORSE (real money)
BTTC        71.15%     ✗ 28.07% WORSE (crypto)
SHIB        83.66%     ✗ 15.56% WORSE (crypto)

BetFury's claim: "RNG mechanism does not discriminate by currency"

Mathematical reality: If RNG doesn't discriminate, ALL currencies should have SAME RTP over 13,998 bets.

They literally confirmed different RTPs exist, then claimed discrimination doesn't exist. This is a contradiction they cannot explain.

QUESTIONS FOR AHOYBRAUSE (and nutildah):

1. Currency Discrimination: BetFury confirmed BFG=99.22%, USDT=94.08%, BTTC=71.15%. Same game. How does "variance" create systematic 5-28% RTP differences by currency?

2. Sample Size: Required (95% confidence): 13 bets. I have: 6,678 USDT bets (514× MORE). Medical trials use 100-1,000 subjects. I have 6× MORE data than medical research. How is this "insufficient"?

3. Statistical Impossibility: 89% win rate = 93.54σ deviation. Probability < 0.0000000001%. Monte Carlo (10,000 simulations): ZERO games achieved ≥89%. Particle physics uses 5σ as "discovery" threshold. I have 93.54σ. Explain how this is legitimate.

4. BetFury's Lies: They claimed "no account restrictions." I have timestamped emails (Aug 19, Aug 28) to risk@betfury.com proving access blocked. Their support recommended VPN bypass. Why did they lie in dispute resolution?

5. RNG Certification: BetFury claims "tested by SIQ, certified independent laboratory" but refuses to provide: certification number, audit date, test results, verification mechanism. If legitimate, why hide it?

6. nutildah's Timing: Wore BetFury signature → defended them aggressively → I exposed fraud with math → signature REMOVED same month. Damage control?

7. Your Connection: You appear making semantic arguments right after nutildah removes signature. What's YOUR financial relationship with BetFury? Why defend proven currency discrimination?

8. India Gaming Bill 2025: Passed Aug 21, 2025, makes offshore gambling operations ILLEGAL in India. BetFury, Stake, BC.Game using fraudulent UPI vendors = GST fraud + money laundering. Will you defend illegal operations?

RE: nutildah's FLAG against me:

nutildah raised trust flag claiming I'm "manipulative" and "untrustworthy" for exposing Stake fraud. The pattern:

• I documented Stake fraud (UPI scams, KYC delays) → nutildah (wearing BetFury sig) raised flag to silence me
• I exposed BetFury fraud with mathematical proof → nutildah REMOVED BetFury signature same month
• I deleted all my Stake posts citing "tired of trolling from Nutildah" → This is the GOAL: exhaust victims into silence
  
• Now AHOYBRAUSE appears defending BetFury with semantic games

I will NOT be intimidated. I will NOT delete evidence. I will NOT stop exposing fraud.

THE BOTTOM LINE:

BetFury confirmed my calculations then dismissed them without counter-evidence.
Currency discrimination is PROVEN by their own admission.
Sample size is 514× MORE than statistically required.
They lied about account access (documented).
Operations are now ILLEGAL under India Gaming Bill 2025.

Stop with semantic games. Address the EVIDENCE:
- Show mathematical explanation for currency-based RTP differences
- Show RNG certification details (number, date, auditor)
- Explain why 13,998 bets is "insufficient" when 13 is required
- Explain why you lied about account access
- Explain nutildah's signature removal timing
- Explain YOUR relationship with BetFury

Respond with EVIDENCE, not deflection.

The math doesn't lie. BetFury confirmed my numbers. Now explain the discrimination. 🎯

[BlackyJacky]

@ AHOYBRAUSE

People who skipped the primary school and are therefore not able to understand basic math, are not qualified to comment on RTP and house edge.

Your posts are therefore considered as useless spamming!

The RTP of course reflects exactly the house edge. 

Why?

Because the RTP determines how much % you will statistically lose per bet and the percentage you will statistically lose per bet = house edge. 

[kingbj21]

@ AHOYBRAUSE

People who skipped the primary school and are therefore not able to understand basic math, are not qualified to comment on RTP and house edge.

Your posts are therefore considered as useless spamming!

The RTP of course reflects exactly the house edge. 

Why?

Because the RTP determines how much % you will statistically lose per bet and the percentage you will statistically lose per bet = house edge. 

Thank you BlackyJacky. AHOYBRAUSE is using the same playbook as nutildah.

Speaking of nutildah - WHERE IS HE?

Timeline of nutildah's involvement:
 Wearing BetFury signature, actively defending them
 Raised trust flag against me for exposing Stake fraud
 I expose BetFury fraud with mathematical proof
 BetFury confirms my RTP calculations (USDT 94.07%, BFG 99.20%)
 nutildah REMOVES BetFury signature
- Now: Complete radio silence

Where are you, nutildah?

Questions that need answers:

1. Signature Removal: You wore BetFury signature while attacking me. I exposed fraud with math. You removed signature same month. Coincidence?

2. Trust Flag: You flagged me for "manipulation" when exposing Stake. Now BetFury CONFIRMED my calculations were accurate. Will you remove the flag?

3. Currency Discrimination: BetFury confirmed: BFG 99.20% RTP, USDT 94.07% RTP. Same game, 5% difference. Still claim this is "variance"?



TO THE COMMUNITY:

This is the signature campaign shill network:
- nutildah: Wore BetFury sig → attacked victims → fraud exposed → REMOVED signature → disappeared

Pattern:
1. Get paid to wear signature
2. Attack anyone exposing fraud
3. Use trust system to silence victims
4. When fraud proven, remove signature
5. Send replacements to continue attacks

nutildah, you can hide but the evidence doesn't disappear:

Currency	My RTP	BetFury Confirmed	Your Explanation?
BFG	99.22%	99.20%
USDT	94.08%	94.07%
BTTC	71.15%	Not addressed

You wore their signature. You defended them. You attacked me.

Now they've confirmed my calculations were accurate to 0.01%.

Where's your apology?

Come out and address the evidence. Or admit you shilled for a proven scam. 🎯

[Zwei]

I already know your reply but still I want to ask, just for the fun of it. These blackjack "results" and what you think the RTP is, remind me, do you still think that RTP is the same as chance of winning? If yes, I have bad news for you, it's not. 

here we go again with another 20 pages explaining RTP, house edge, and win chance to those two retards 

People who skipped the primary school and are therefore not able to understand basic math, are not qualified to comment on RTP and house edge.

you mean people like you?

The RTP of course reflects exactly the house edge. 

read his question again and maybe this time you will understand it.

Because the RTP determines how much % you will statistically lose per bet and the percentage you will statistically lose per bet = house edge. 

nuh uh, but keep thinking that.

[BlackyJacky]

@ Zwei

For those who skipped the primary school, I will explain one more time why RTP = return to player determines the house edge:

When the RTP is 95%, the player will statistically lose 5% from each bet amount = 5% house edge.

When the RTP is 99%, the player will statistically lose 1% from each bet amount = 1% house edge.

In general, the house edge is 100 minus RTP.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

@ AHOYBRAUSE

People who skipped the primary school and are therefore not able to understand basic math, are not qualified to comment on RTP and house edge.

Your posts are therefore considered as useless spamming!

The RTP of course reflects exactly the house edge. 

Why?

Because the RTP determines how much % you will statistically lose per bet and the percentage you will statistically lose per bet = house edge. 

Guess reading is not your forte, just like common sense or decency. But what else is new?  Show me the words "house edge" in my post please. Oh you can't? Guess I didn't mention it then. I said that chance of winning is NOT RTP, because you know why? It is not.

Maybe google the words house edge one time little guy, you will be amazed what info you will get. You with your several accounts still believe that a 42% win chance (which is a fact at blackjack) does not exist because the RTP is 99%. Well bad news for ya, it's still 42% to win a hand, not 49.5%. Basic math little fella. For more info: https://www.winstar.com/blog/blackjack-odds/

[BlackyJacky]

@ AHOYBRAUSE

People who skipped the primary school and are therefore not able to understand basic math, are not qualified to comment on RTP and house edge.

Your posts are therefore considered as useless spamming!

The RTP of course reflects exactly the house edge.  

Why?

Because the RTP determines how much % you will statistically lose per bet and the percentage you will statistically lose per bet = house edge.  

Show me the words "house edge" in my post please.

You said "chance of winning" and the chance of winning is determined by the house edge.

So if the RTP is 95%, your chance of winning = house edge is losing 5% of all bets placed.

These blackjack "results" and what you think the RTP is, remind me, do you still think that RTP is the same as chance of winning?

RTP in blackjack (or another game) has absolutely NOTHING to do with how many games you win or lose, you should finally understand that.

Biggest nonsense statement ever made on Bitcointalk!

Because the RTP exactly determines how many bets you will statistically lose.

For example, if the RTP is 95%, then the house edge is 5% and you will statistically lose 5% of all bets placed.

For example, if the RTP is 99%, then the house edge is 1% and you will statistically lose 1% of all bets placed.

[kingbj21]

here we go again with another 20 pages explaining RTP, house edge, and win chance to those two retards  

I said that chance of winning is NOT RTP, because you know why? It is not.

You're both attacking BlackyJacky instead of quoting MY evidence?

Why? Because you CAN'T refute this:

Currency	My RTP	BetFury Confirmed
BFG	99.22%	✓ 99.20%
USDT	94.08%	✓ 94.07%
BTTC	71.15%	—

BetFury confirmed my calculations. Same game, different RTPs by currency.

The Signature Campaign Crew:
- nutildah: Wore BetFury sig → flagged me for "manipulation" → I exposed fraud → removed signature → HIDING
- Zwei: Former BetFury sig wearer → nutildah's accomplice → attacks victims → avoids MY evidence
- AHOYBRAUSE: Appeared after nutildah fled → semantic games → defends BetFury → avoids MY evidence

WHERE'S nutildah?

You raised a trust flag against me for exposing Stake fraud. Called me "manipulative" and "untrustworthy."

Now BetFury CONFIRMED my calculations were accurate to 0.01%.

Questions:
1. Will you remove the flag now that I'm proven right?
2. Why did you remove BetFury signature same month they confirmed my fraud evidence?
3. Why are your crew (Zwei, AHOYBRAUSE) still defending proven currency discrimination?
4. Where are you hiding?

To Zwei & AHOYBRAUSE:

Explain the currency discrimination or admit you're paid shills.

Stop attacking BlackyJacky. Stop semantic games. Address MY evidence that BetFury confirmed.

The community is watching. nutildah ran. Will you? 🎯

[Zwei]

When the RTP is 95%, the player will statistically lose 5% from each bet amount = 5% house edge.

When the RTP is 99%, the player will statistically lose 1% from each bet amount = 1% house edge.

let me fix that for ya,

when the RTP is 95%, the player will statistically lose ~5% from each bet his total wager amount = 5% house edge.
when the RTP is 99%, the player will statistically lose ~1% from each bet his total wager amount = 1% house edge.

In general, the house edge is 100 minus RTP.

wow, you got something right for once.

You're both attacking BlackyJacky instead of quoting MY evidence?

is the evidence in the room with us right now?

Why? Because you CAN'T refute this:

Currency	My RTP	BetFury Confirmed
BFG	99.22%	✓ 99.20%
USDT	94.08%	✓ 94.07%
BTTC	71.15%	—

i can't refute what does not exist. just stop gambling, you suck at it.

- Zwei: Former BetFury sig wearer → nutildah's accomplice → attacks victims → avoids MY evidence

- kingbj21: sucks at blackjack → bad at math → alter ego of game-protect → blackmails casinos

Stop attacking BlackyJacky. Stop semantic games. Address MY evidence that BetFury confirmed.

sue me bitch.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

- AHOYBRAUSE: Appeared after nutildah fled → semantic games → defends BetFury → avoids MY evidence

3. Why are your crew (Zwei, AHOYBRAUSE) still defending proven currency discrimination?

Too funny. I am the last person here defending a garbage site like betfury, you should check my post history about this site and also my trust list. Anyway, what I also can't defend is made up hilarious math and blackmailing. You and your "friend" and straight up wrong, that's just how it is. You show your "evidence" while ignore everything you are being told. G|Just google blackjack and see how the winning chance works. Chance of winning is NOT house edge.

[nutildah]

To anybody who bothered to read this guy's whole posts: please check his trust rating. He's batshit insane. Not to forget he already pledged to leave Bitcointalk some months ago. I'm not surprised that he deleted that post. He's written 559 posts and all but 34 of them have been deleted, lol. Obviously a clown looking for a payday. Whether its here or busting scam projects, the fact that I can make such losers so mad is encouraging... it means I'm doing something right.

[examplens]

To anybody who bothered to read this guy's whole posts: please check his trust rating. He's batshit insane. Not to forget he already pledged to leave Bitcointalk some months ago. I'm not surprised that he deleted that post. He's written 559 posts and all but 34 of them have been deleted, lol. Obviously a clown looking for a payday. Whether its here or busting scam projects, the fact that I can make such losers so mad is encouraging... it means I'm doing something right.

I think it's obvious to everyone except himself
And here he tried to support himself, and that he tries very low to discredit those whose opinions he does not like by using altaccounts (@polatov420, @BlackyJacky),  however, the moderators reacted and deleted his bs
https://ninjastic.space/search?topic_id=5563800

[kingbj21]

i can't refute what does not exist. just stop gambling, you suck at it.
sue me bitch.

I am the last person here defending a garbage site like betfury
Chance of winning is NOT house edge.

To anybody who bothered to read this guy's whole posts: please check his trust rating. He's batshit insane.

And here he tried to support himself, and that he tries very low to discredit those whose opinions he does not like by using altaccounts (@polatov420, @BlackyJacky)

THE WHOLE GANG FINALLY SHOWED UP!

nutildah came out of hiding, brought his entire crew, and proved EVERYTHING I said about coordinated shilling.

Let me address each clown:

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1. ZWEI - "Can't refute what doesn't exist" / "Sue me bitch"
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What "doesn't exist"?

Currency	My Calculation	BetFury Confirmed	Difference
BFG	99.22%	99.20%	0.02%
USDT	94.08%	94.07%	0.01%

BetFury's email to me (June 2025):

"Your RTP for USDT bets from April to today is 94.07%, with a total of 6,678 bets."
"Your RTP for BFG bets is 99.20%, with 6,982 bets placed."

Source: BetFury support team response to my formal complaint

This is THEIR confirmation, not mine.

So when you say "doesn't exist," you're calling BetFury liars?

Former BetFury signature wearer defending BetFury by denying what BetFury confirmed. Make it make sense.

"Sue me bitch" - Professional argument from someone who wore BetFury signature. Class act.

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2. AHOYBRAUSE - "I'm not defending BetFury"
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Really? Let's check:

- Appeared in MY thread attacking MY evidence
- Made semantic arguments (win rate vs RTP) instead of addressing currency discrimination
- Showed up RIGHT AFTER nutildah removed BetFury signature
- Coordinated timing with Zwei
- Never addressed why BetFury confirmed different RTPs by currency
- Now claims "not defending BetFury"

If you're NOT defending them, explain this:

Why does BetFury's blackjack have:
- 99.20% RTP for BFG (house token)
- 94.07% RTP for USDT (real money)
- 71.15% RTP for BTTC (crypto)

THEY confirmed the first two numbers. Same game. Different currencies.

If you're "not defending" them, you should be AGREEING this is fraud.

Instead, you're here making semantic arguments and deflecting. That's defending.

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3. nutildah - FINALLY OUT OF HIDING
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Where have you been?

Your timeline:
- April-June 2025: Wearing BetFury signature
- June 17, 2025: Raised trust flag against me for exposing Stake
- June-September 2025: Actively defending BetFury in threads
- October 2025: I expose BetFury fraud with mathematical proof
- October 2025: BetFury CONFIRMS my RTP calculations (USDT 94.07%, BFG 99.20%)
- October 2025: You REMOVE BetFury signature
- October-November 2025: Complete silence while your crew (AHOYBRAUSE, Zwei) continues attacks
- November 2025: Finally appear with personal attacks, zero evidence

Let's address your claims:

"Check his trust rating"
You mean the trust rating YOU manipulated by flagging me for "manipulation" when I exposed casino fraud?

The flag you raised says: "extremely manipulative and has zero regard for the truth"

The reality: BetFury confirmed my calculations were accurate to 0.01%

So who has "zero regard for the truth"?

"He deleted posts"
Yes, I deleted Stake-related posts after exhaustion from coordinated attacks by YOUR crew.

You know what else got deleted? Your BetFury signature. Same month they confirmed my fraud evidence.

Coincidence?

"Obviously a clown looking for a payday"
Let's talk about paydays, nutildah:

Your own post:

Hello shasan I have sent another $70:
f625b2bd62f3b87177e746d9f83015cfd79d49e01527276360f3a714837486f5
I plan to send the remainder of the balance in the next couple weeks.

You're literally borrowing money while shilling for casinos.

Who's looking for a payday?

- Me: Exposing fraud, providing evidence, losing money to document it
- You: Wearing casino signatures, repaying debts, attacking victims, removing signature when exposed

Questions:
1. Why do you need to repay debts if signature campaigns are so lucrative?
2. Why remove BetFury signature the same month they confirmed my fraud evidence?
3. Why attack victims instead of addressing currency discrimination?

One of us is "looking for a payday." It's not me.

"I'm doing something right"
Yes, you're doing reputation management right:
1. Get paid to wear casino signature
2. Attack victims exposing fraud
3. Use trust system to silence complaints
4. When fraud proven, remove signature quietly
5. Send crew to continue attacks (Zwei, AHOYBRAUSE, examplens)
6. Hide for weeks
7. Return with personal attacks when evidence becomes undeniable

This is textbook shill behavior.

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4. examplens - The Alt Account Accuser
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Claims I'm using alt accounts: polatov420, BlackyJacky

To moderators: Please investigate and clear this up. I am NOT these users.

To examplens: Appeared same day as nutildah's return. Coordination obvious.

Classic deflection tactic: When you can't refute evidence, accuse of alt accounts.

BlackyJacky has been on this forum LONGER than me, has DIFFERENT posting patterns, DIFFERENT issues with casinos.

Just because we both expose casino fraud doesn't make us the same person.

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THE PATTERN IS UNDENIABLE:
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Watch how the signature campaign crew operates:

Phase 1: Victim documents fraud
Phase 2: Signature wearers attack (nutildah + BetFury sig)
Phase 3: Trust system weaponized (flag for "manipulation")
Phase 4: Fraud exposed with proof (BetFury confirms calculations)
Phase 5: Main shill removes signature (nutildah)
Phase 6: Replacement shills appear (AHOYBRAUSE, Zwei)
Phase 7: When pressure increases, ALL come back with coordinated attack (Zwei, AHOYBRAUSE, nutildah, examplens - all within 24 hours)

This is NOT organic discussion. This is organized reputation management.

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THE EVIDENCE YOU CAN'T REFUTE:
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Stop with personal attacks. Address THIS:

1. BetFury's Confirmation:
They confirmed USDT RTP = 94.07%, BFG RTP = 99.20%
My calculations: USDT 94.08%, BFG 99.22%
Difference: 0.01% (rounding error)
I was RIGHT.

2. Currency Discrimination:
Same blackjack game, different RTPs:
- BFG (house token): 99.20%
- USDT (real money): 94.07%
- BTTC (crypto): 71.15%

If RNG doesn't discriminate by currency, explain this.

3. Sample Size:
Required for 95% confidence: 13 bets
I have: 6,678 USDT bets
Ratio: 514× MORE than required
NOT "insufficient."

4. Statistical Impossibility:
89% win rate in 13,998 hands
Expected: ~42-43%
Deviation: 93.54σ
Probability: < 0.0000000001%
Never occurred in 10,000 Monte Carlo simulations of fair games.

5. Your Coordination:
- nutildah: Wore sig, flagged me, removed sig, hid, returned with crew
- Zwei: Wore sig, attacks victims, "sue me bitch," defends proven discrimination  
- AHOYBRAUSE: Appeared after nutildah fled, semantic games, "not defending" while defending
- examplens: Appeared same day as nutildah's return, alt account accusations

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DIRECT QUESTIONS FOR EACH OF YOU:
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nutildah:
1. Why did you remove BetFury signature same month they confirmed my fraud evidence?
2. Will you remove the trust flag now that I'm proven right?
3. Why are you borrowing money if signature campaigns pay so well?
4. Why did your entire crew appear within 24 hours of your return?

Zwei:
1. When did you stop wearing BetFury signature?
2. Why say evidence "doesn't exist" when BetFury confirmed it?
3. Is "sue me bitch" your best argument?
4. Why attack victims instead of addressing currency discrimination?

AHOYBRAUSE:
1. If not defending BetFury, why make semantic arguments in MY thread?
2. Why appear RIGHT AFTER nutildah removed signature?
3. Explain BFG 99% vs USDT 94% vs BTTC 71% RTPs
4. If BetFury is "garbage site," why defend their RNG?

examplens:
1. Why appear same day as nutildah?
2. Evidence I'm using alt accounts?
3. Will moderators investigate and clear this?
4. Why deflect to alt accounts instead of addressing currency discrimination?

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FINAL STATEMENT:
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You ALL showed up within 24 hours. You ALL avoid addressing the evidence. You ALL attack me personally.

BetFury confirmed my calculations. Then claimed "no discrimination." Both can't be true.

India Gaming Bill 2025 (August 21) makes these operations ILLEGAL.

nutildah is borrowing money while shilling for casinos.
Zwei is throwing tantrums ("sue me bitch").
AHOYBRAUSE claims "not defending" while defending.
examplens appeared for alt account deflection.

This coordinated attack PROVES everything I said about signature campaign shilling.

Currency discrimination: BFG 99.20%, USDT 94.07%, BTTC 71.15%
BetFury confirmed the first two. Explain the third.

Stop attacking me. Address the evidence.

The community is watching. And now they see EXACTLY how you operate. 🎯

[kingbj21]

TO EVERYONE WATCHING:

This is how signature shills operate:
- Get paid to wear casino sig
- Attack victims exposing fraud
- Coordinate with other shills
- Remove sig when exposed
- Hide when cornered

nutildah proved it. His crew proved it.

Truth wins. Facts don't lie. Shills run.

BFG 99%, USDT 94%, BTTC 71% - BetFury confirmed it.

Explain it or shut up. 🎯

[16xypjnxlrew]

SECONDARY ISSUE: MISSING WINNING BET + CONTRADICTORY EXPLANATIONS

Date: June 19, 2025, ~02:34 AM IST
Game: Keno (USDT)
Bet: $8.00 stake
Result: Interface displayed 8× multiplier (expected payout: $64.00)
Problem: Round NEVER appeared in game history, NO Bet ID generated, NO payout credited

Bet ID shown in interface: 685329c4839c6d7108c479bb
Proof: Screenshots showing the bet details with $8.00 stake, x0.00 multiplier, $0.00 payout

You probably won’t believe it, but Stake.com does the same thing — and with even smaller amounts. On my account, I noticed several times that winning bets of 5–10 cents weren’t counted at all (dude, imagine — they didn’t count 10 cents, so what can we say about 8 dollars?). Since then, I’ve left their site for good. In classic games they always cheat. And unfortunately, it’s impossible to prove anything. If you provide logical explanations to support chat, they pretend not to understand and say the system “skipped the bet on its own.” The same thing — missing entries in the bet history — happened on Primedice as well

[noviesol]

This looks more like a personal war against nutildah even if u were legitimate none would give u credibility. You have zero evidence and only rely on speculation and ''coincidence''. It adds nothing to your post and only weakens everything.

Your whole topic is a chaos and none even cares. If u can come comeup with some reliable statistics maybe someone will take it serious.

For example:

You are mixing up things up. Total Win / Total Wagered = RTP only applies when the betsize and conditions stays constant. If u are betting sizes vary from 0,10$ up to 1000$ it heavilly skews your statistics.

You are not providing the strategy used while playing Blackjack this heavily impacts the amounts of hands u will win/lose.

Did you take into consideration the conversion rates used for your calculation. For example a 100$ bet could be 1000 ''X'' tokens now but in the future it could be 500 ''X'' tokens.

However, I think this has been explained many times. The number of hands you win and lose does NOT determine the RTP. RTP is determined by how much you win when you win and how much you lose when you lose, not by the win/loss count.

If I play Coinflip with a RTP of 99% and would bet 1$ each time I would win 1000 times and lose 1000 times. But I will lose 20$ in the end eventhough I won 1000 times and lose 1000 times.

If I play Limbo with a RTP of 99% and i would bet 1$ each time and I choose a multiplier of 10. I would win 198 times and lose 1802 times. But I will lose 20$ in the end eventhough I won 198 times and lose 1802 times.

Even though you win far fewer times, the math still produces the same expected loss: $20 total, because the RTP is still 99%.

One last question. If u are so negative about the whole gambling industry and think everything is rigged against you. Why are you still gambling?

[BlackyJacky]

However, I think this has been explained many times. The number of hands you win and lose does NOT determine the RTP.

At Black Jack, it is absolutely correct that the number of hands you win and lose does NOT determine the RTP.

In fact, the number of bets you lose and win determine the RTP at Black Jack.

Most people here do not have the mental capability to understand the difference between hands and bets at Black Jack.

RTP is determined by how much you win when you win and how much you lose when you lose, not by the win/loss count.

At Black Jack, RTP is determined by the house edge:

For example, if the house edge is 1%, then RTP is 99%.

For example, if the house edge is 5%, then RTP is 95%.

At Black Jack, the house edge is collected via the number of bets you lose more than you win.

If I play Coinflip with a RTP of 99% and would bet 1$ each time I would win 1000 times and lose 1000 times. But I will lose 20$ in the end eventhough I won 1000 times and lose 1000 times.

You can not compare Coinflips with Black Jack, because Black Jack is not a Coinflip.

At Coinflips, the number of bets you win and lose is the same and the casino reduces the house edge from every bet amount.

At Black Jack, the casino does not reduce the house edge from every bet amount.

At Black Jack, the house edge is collected by the number of bets you lose more than you win.

[noviesol]

However, I think this has been explained many times. The number of hands you win and lose does NOT determine the RTP.

At Black Jack, it is absolutely correct that the number of hands you win and lose does NOT determine the RTP.

In fact, the number of bets you lose and win determine the RTP at Black Jack.

Most people here do not have the mental capability to understand the difference between hands and bets at Black Jack.

U are calling it bets/hands/transactions or whatever. Whats the difference?

The only way the RTP of Blackjack changes is when the rules change. For example Blackjack pays 6:5 or no doubling after splitting.

U are saying house edge is collected by number of bets you lose more than you win. But u are using total wagered and total won in ur calculation.

U dodged the last question: Why are you still gambling?