Can we Cheat on Nature?

[Iamgoat]

A set of Chinese researchers are making moves to introduce anti aging pills, that can help improves human existence or longevity of life to about 150 years, this involves the introduction of what will work as anti aging pills, is this a welcome idea or bad initiative we shouldn't accept.

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Well if it is 150 years, it is not much because in some countries, there are people who get close to that age though few. If the medication or supplement were to take people to 200+ plus then I could say the supplement is effective. But one thing that human being can't fight against is death, they have not been able to change the blood vessels and arteries etc that sustains life. This has become the standard of living and it is not changing no matter how much mutilation or supplement manufactured. Life is sacrosanct and it is only God that gives and takes life.

You are right, 150 years does not sound like an impressive or outstanding when you actually think we'll about it giving places like Japan or places they call Blue Zones have some people who are already reaching such age naturally without any supplements or so but of the supplement can could push one's life expectancy to like 200 years or more, it will be a game changer and alot of people would see it as an effective supplement to use. But I was also going to mention the fact humans cannot fight death forever because it is a call of nature which is unavoidable, whatsoever.  As much as our arteries and blood vessels will wear out then no matter how many supplements or fancy tech we make we can't avoid death because as much as living is sacrosanct, the same applies to death too. It is a sacred human nature which we cannot fight no matter how hard we try.

[BADecker]

A set of Chinese researchers are making moves to introduce anti aging pills, that can help improves human existence or longevity of life to about 150 years, this involves the introduction of what will work as anti aging pills, is this a welcome idea or bad initiative we shouldn't accept.

Learn more about it from the reference link below
https://komersant.ua/en/nyt-kytayskyy-startap-rozrobliaie-tabletky-dlia-prodovzhennia-zhyttia-do-150-rokiv/

Well if it is 150 years, it is not much because in some countries, there are people who get close to that age though few. If the medication or supplement were to take people to 200+ plus then I could say the supplement is effective. But one thing that human being can't fight against is death, they have not been able to change the blood vessels and arteries etc that sustains life. This has become the standard of living and it is not changing no matter how much mutilation or supplement manufactured. Life is sacrosanct and it is only God that gives and takes life.

You are right, 150 years does not sound like an impressive or outstanding when you actually think we'll about it giving places like Japan or places they call Blue Zones have some people who are already reaching such age naturally without any supplements or so but of the supplement can could push one's life expectancy to like 200 years or more, it will be a game changer and alot of people would see it as an effective supplement to use. But I was also going to mention the fact humans cannot fight death forever because it is a call of nature which is unavoidable, whatsoever.  As much as our arteries and blood vessels will wear out then no matter how many supplements or fancy tech we make we can't avoid death because as much as living is sacrosanct, the same applies to death too. It is a sacred human nature which we cannot fight no matter how hard we try.

There are some super-wealthy people who probably have had the answer for a long time. Some of them may be over 300 years old. They are hiding the knowledge to let the rest of us die so that we don't live long enough to figure out how to oppose them out of their control of everything.

However, Jesus is good; Jesus is alive; Jesus is older than any of them. Jesus offers us eternal life - like He has. It's written in the Bible. Just have faith in Him.

[₿itcoin]

A set of Chinese researchers are making moves to introduce anti aging pills, that can help improves human existence or longevity of life to about 150 years, this involves the introduction of what will work as anti aging pills, is this a welcome idea or bad initiative we shouldn't accept.

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Yes, I read the news, a company called Lonvi Biosciences in China is currently working on a pill to reduce human age. The name of this pill is PCC1, which is made from grape seed extract. The company claims that if this pill is effective, it can increase human lifespan by up to 150 years! However, the thing to see here is that they are the ones who are warning again. There is still no conclusive evidence whether it will work on humans the way it works on mice. Large scale human trials have not been completed yet. So, there is no doubt the idea is exciting however at present it seems more like science fiction than real science. And if you talk about nature, then I would say yes, this is definitely against nature &  it can give very horrible side effects if applied to the human body

[BADecker]

A set of Chinese researchers are making moves to introduce anti aging pills, that can help improves human existence or longevity of life to about 150 years, this involves the introduction of what will work as anti aging pills, is this a welcome idea or bad initiative we shouldn't accept.

https://komersant.ua/en/nyt-kytayskyy-startap-rozrobliaie-tabletky-dlia-prodovzhennia-zhyttia-do-150-rokiv/

Yes, I read the news, a company called Lonvi Biosciences in China is currently working on a pill to reduce human age. The name of this pill is PCC1, which is made from grape seed extract. The company claims that if this pill is effective, it can increase human lifespan by up to 150 years! However, the thing to see here is that they are the ones who are warning again. There is still no conclusive evidence whether it will work on humans the way it works on mice. Large scale human trials have not been completed yet. So, there is no doubt the idea is exciting however at present it seems more like science fiction than real science. And if you talk about nature, then I would say yes, this is definitely against nature &  it can give very horrible side effects if applied to the human body

Dr. David Sinclair discovered the anti-aging benefits of grape seed extract in 1993. The formulation of it was called 'Resveratrol', and it's available all over the place in the USA and other countries.

Research Dr. Sinclair's anti-aging practices. They seem to be working somewhat.

BTW, it's not cheating on nature. It's simply using a different form of nature.

[Prosofina_G]

Absolutely nature can never be cheat, but rather  you can bend it, to some extent,
Human have only succeed in working around nature but not to concan nature.
This are ways to work around nature

1. Engineering class, this set of people has tried to work across all over, even in the mist of nature, they constructed a bridge across the
Ocean but yet they can never cheat on nature.

2. Technology also, is very good because it alow some to communicate to one another
.
There are some natural laws that can not be ride which are
1 aging

2 Death

3 gravity.

[Sarah Jordan]

Nature  can't  be  entirely  cheated. One  can't deny the fact that we can't change  some things about it even though we try.

Things  are really happening in our world today where we  see  ladies and even some men changing their looks. Its either they get their bum big, boobs big, remove some ribs to have a slender waist, making their faces look the way they want. Money as actually made people to cheat nature. Not everyone likes the way they look. They'll eventually do what will make them look their best.

I watched botch on E whereas the lady who did breast enlargement told herself if she had known it will lead to what she went through she wouldn't go for that breast enlargement and that she will never advice anyone to go through what she did. So nature can't be cheated entirely. One will still grow old and have wrinkles, loosed skin, unclear vision. All these will still happen because its nature

[Obulis]

I don't mean to criticize a scientific innovation because should that be the case then what a wonderful and welcome development.
But then I have questions:
1..I hope this is not the one that is only meant to experiment on people?
2... How did they actually test it (what's the prove)?
3...I hope it will keep them and their family that long?
4... I guess it's reaction won't only be on the outside.

In as much as such pill can be real, there's a lot that humanity knows that can actually support living longer, ranging from psychological reactions to life (mindset & mentality), chemical reactions to life (food etc),  I can likewise say physical reactions to life then the spiritual ( that is if you believe in the spiritual).

[BADecker]

Can we Cheat on Nature?


Yes... but only if we do it naturally.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

It's clear that human ability has it limit as regards to certain things about nature no matter how many kind tried he can't win completely against nature. Common example health improvement are there but can't wake a dead,  I will digress by using sun light, artificial rain examples no matter how science or human do to improve on this it can't conquer the natural which build by nature while nature can't be renewed artificial will definitely failed away and required to be renewed, nature is too powerful humanity can only improve on  them but can't change some completely.

[Hispo]

Can we Cheat on Nature?


Yes... but only if we do it naturally.

Could you give an example of cheating nature naturally and cheating nature unnaturally?
Pendending whom you ask and the period of human history, most of the things we take for granted today and make our life easier would have been considered to be some kind of black magic and anti-natural process which goes against the will of God and nature. Someone with a car would have been burnt at the stake in Spain during the inquisition, someone with a cellphone would have been killed in victorian England, and so on...
So where do you draw the line between anti natural cheating and natural cheating.?

[BADecker]

Can we Cheat on Nature?


Yes... but only if we do it naturally.

Could you give an example of cheating nature naturally and cheating nature unnaturally?
Pendending whom you ask and the period of human history, most of the things we take for granted today and make our life easier would have been considered to be some kind of black magic and anti-natural process which goes against the will of God and nature. Someone with a car would have been burnt at the stake in Spain during the inquisition, someone with a cellphone would have been killed in victorian England, and so on...
So where do you draw the line between anti natural cheating and natural cheating.?

Nature exists throughout the universe. Nothing we do or work with is outside of nature.

If we make inventions that are not found directly in nature, we are still using nature to do these 'unnatural' things. Why? Because all of the basic laws of physics in the inventions are still at work in them.

For example. If we make a wheel, you can see things that roll all over nature. But none of them have the kind of shape that our wheels have. None of them have a place for an axle. Yet all of them roll, just like things of nature roll. If we had not seen the example of rolling things in nature, we would not have invented the wheel.

Nothing goes outside of nature. Everything is simply a usage of nature to make things not seen directly in nature, using the laws of nature to do it, and doing it withing nature.

One of the reasons for AI is people trying to understand things that might not be natural, even though they can't understand these unnatural things if they happen to find them. Probably AI won't be able to understand them, either. AI is still part of nature.

[uneng]

Seeking for such ways to live longer doesn't mean cheating on nature. It means using natural resources aiming to improve life quality and to develop new knowledges. It's not a bad thing.

The problem is that it's not everything when seeking for a happy life, although people nowadays think science can solve all their problems and bring answers to every questions. There is something else which goes beyond the physical world, and that is what people nowadays fail to realize.

That is why there is a constant feeling there is something missing all the time going on inside the modern human being.

[BADecker]

Seeking for such ways to live longer doesn't mean cheating on nature. It means using natural resources aiming to improve life quality and to develop new knowledges. It's not a bad thing.

The problem is that it's not everything when seeking for a happy life, although people nowadays think science can solve all their problems and bring answers to every questions. There is something else which goes beyond the physical world, and that is what people nowadays fail to realize.

That is why there is a constant feeling there is something missing all the time going on inside the modern human being.

I'm not picking on you with this post, uneng.

There is a lot not easily available in nature, because the easy way has been destroyed by Satan and evil. When you look at the miracles that Jesus did, listed in the Bible New Testament, you see that the health is still available to those who seek it. But, because of what we have become, there is only one way to seek it. Seek it by finding Jesus first.

Matthew 7:7,8: "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened," - https://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/7.htm.

And there are more and similar. Get into Jesus... the Bible... especially the New Testament. None of us has the strength to do it on our own. But Jesus will extend help through the Holy Spirit.

[Ibeology]

If you ask me this same question, I will reply you by saying no, because no matter how we took a sleeping pills to ensure all night dtand6, we will still end up dozing off, same also applies when we are growing, it's natural and we can't deprive ourselves from this, neither can we extend the longevity to how these should happen to man.

I understand that scientist have always been proven making tremendous achievements by improving ways of life through what they have researched, but I recently came across this topic and will appreciate us to drop our opinion on what we see about it.

A set of Chinese researchers are making moves to introduce anti aging pills, that can help improves human existence or longevity of life to about 150 years, this involves the introduction of what will work as anti aging pills, is this a welcome idea or bad initiative we shouldn't accept.

Learn more about it from the reference link below
https://komersant.ua/en/nyt-kytayskyy-startap-rozrobliaie-tabletky-dlia-prodovzhennia-zhyttia-do-150-rokiv/

Nature is wonderful there are some certain things we do that like as if we want to cheat nature unlike someone who did not sleep at night it is a certain that you must sleep in the next day the sacrifice that you make by not sleeping at night you pay for it sleeping the daytime this means that you cannot cheat nature, this also tells that the money which you make when people are sleeping the same people have make that same money when you are sleeping. Nature is wonderful.

[Hispo]

Can we Cheat on Nature?


Yes... but only if we do it naturally.

Nature exists throughout the universe. Nothing we do or work with is outside of nature.

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So what you are basically saying is nuclear reactors are natural, messenger ARN vaccines are within the scope of nature, and so on.
If everything we do is within the scope of nature then also people changing their gender is natural or "cheating naturally"?

You have been very vocal and against many things which are done through the advance of science and for the sake of some political ideologies which (according to some) are against nature. What you are saying it is a complete contradiction to what you have expressed in this section of the forum for many years. Perhaps you are not aware of it, but that is basically what you are saying here.

Science and engineering are about using the laws of nature, bend the arm of nature for the sake of accomplishing the will and whim of human beings, obviously there are thing we do which cross the line of what it is natural or not.

[Berry2d]

Seeking for such ways to live longer doesn't mean cheating on nature. It means using natural resources aiming to improve life quality and to develop new knowledges. It's not a bad thing.

The problem is that it's not everything when seeking for a happy life, although people nowadays think science can solve all their problems and bring answers to every questions. There is something else which goes beyond the physical world, and that is what people nowadays fail to realize.

That is why there is a constant feeling there is something missing all the time going on inside the modern human being.

Peoples believe on the works of science to bring remedy to challenges is the major factor responsible for social, economic and environmental issues affecting the entire world. Am not of the opinion that scientific improvement is not good but the constant research has brought about good and also caused more problem than good, creating instability and environmental issues leading to economic and environmental met down.

[Stormisover]

Seeking for such ways to live longer doesn't mean cheating on nature. It means using natural resources aiming to improve life quality and to develop new knowledges. It's not a bad thing.

The problem is that it's not everything when seeking for a happy life, although people nowadays think science can solve all their problems and bring answers to every questions. There is something else which goes beyond the physical world, and that is what people nowadays fail to realize.

That is why there is a constant feeling there is something missing all the time going on inside the modern human being.

Peoples believe on the works of science to bring remedy to challenges is the major factor responsible for social, economic and environmental issues affecting the entire world. Am not of the opinion that scientific improvement is not good but the constant research has brought about good and also caused more problem than good, creating instability and environmental issues leading to economic and environmental met down.

Knowledge will increase same as science, to whatever that has advantage there can still be limitations to be considered as disadvantages, it is a common thing that standards will never remain the same at one point or the other and this is growth as a characteristics of living things which can come to place in various kind of ways, we can't deny the fact that science has improved life alot and of course has also caused havocs in dimensions and there is no way things can go back and what i can say is that we will keep solving, creating problems until the end of time.

[Royal Cap]

If you ask me this same question, I will reply you by saying no, because no matter how we took a sleeping pills to ensure all night dtand6, we will still end up dozing off, same also applies when we are growing, it's natural and we can't deprive ourselves from this, neither can we extend the longevity to how these should happen to man.

I think this attempt to increase human lifespan is as much a matter of business and power as it is a scientific curiosity. Living to 150 years sounds like the future but if such a medicine really comes along, will it be accessible to everyone? The big question is whether only the rich or influential will get it, and ordinary people will live as normal a life as before. This could create even greater inequality in society. Another thing is that if people live so many years, the structure of society will change. Jobs, the economy, population, natural resources, even family and relationship patterns may change. Being afraid of dying and taking responsibility for longevity are two completely different things.

[RealNoblee]

The narrative that no one can not cheat nature can never be negotiated or argued, no matter how much science tries.

There is a time go conceive and to bring forth
There is a time to be born and to die
Time to sleep and to wake up
Growing into adulthood form a child takes a process.
What you take in as food has time to go out as waste

Yes, science is playing it's part in humanity but cannot but can never replace nature.

[BADecker]

Can we Cheat on Nature?


Yes... but only if we do it naturally.

Nature exists throughout the universe. Nothing we do or work with is outside of nature.

...

So what you are basically saying is nuclear reactors are natural, messenger ARN vaccines are within the scope of nature, and so on.
If everything we do is within the scope of nature then also people changing their gender is natural or "cheating naturally"?

You have been very vocal and against many things which are done through the advance of science and for the sake of some political ideologies which (according to some) are against nature. What you are saying it is a complete contradiction to what you have expressed in this section of the forum for many years. Perhaps you are not aware of it, but that is basically what you are saying here.

Science and engineering are about using the laws of nature, bend the arm of nature for the sake of accomplishing the will and whim of human beings, obviously there are thing we do which cross the line of what it is natural or not.

If you can find any usage in anything, that does not include using universal physics (nature), please point them out to us. People would love to know any ways we are not acting within universal laws of physics, and, thereby, not acting within the universe.