Can we Cheat on Nature?

[gibrab16]

Everything is possible and not against nature. Infact, it is natural that we discover and innovate things.

Of course. Discovery and research has brought us as humans this far. If this should be considered as a way of cheating nature, then what can we say about the discovery of malaria and other disease treatment?. What can we say about the so many discoveries that are meant to assist people struggling with health, especially in the case of asthma?.

No doubt, these discoveries are very important, but with how the society has become, where money has been used to differentiate people into classes, this particular discovery might just be for a very few that can afford it because it's definitely going to be very expensive.

Maybe they will spray life nutrients in chemtrails, and we will all get them.

When you look at the underground, ancient cities that they are finding, maybe they had greater technology in the distant past. Didn't keep them alive, though.

Lol yeah, that’s a fun thought but also kinda says a lot.

Chemtrails saving humanity would be wild sci-fi at best. If “they” really had a magic solution, it probably wouldn’t come sprayed from the sky anyway. History shows us humans love tech, but tech doesn’t equal wisdom.

[BADecker]

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Maybe they will spray life nutrients in chemtrails, and we will all get them.

When you look at the underground, ancient cities that they are finding, maybe they had greater technology in the distant past. Didn't keep them alive, though.

Lol yeah, that’s a fun thought but also kinda says a lot.

Chemtrails saving humanity would be wild sci-fi at best. If “they” really had a magic solution, it probably wouldn’t come sprayed from the sky anyway. History shows us humans love tech, but tech doesn’t equal wisdom.

Nature is tech. It all works by cause and effect, action and reaction, just like all our tech.

Here is the strangest thing of all. A person starts as this single celled entity. He/she grows through continuous stages of ultimately fantastic technology. - If you don't think this is tech, simply investigate what medical research has found out, how life has loads of redundant biological systems. - Then, by age 100 if not before, all this marvelous tech is dead.

How in the world can that be possible? It's so astounding and unimaginable - if you know some of the life tech - that it shouldn't be possible. But it happens to everybody that we know.


It's not about inventing a pill to sustain life. Rather, it's about finding out how in the world anybody can even die of old age with all the redundant technology that is built right in the body.

[JackMazzoni]

Humankind still not powerful enough to cheat on nature. Humankind still on its infancy. But we will be there within a century if does not reset before then.

[BADecker]

Humankind still not powerful enough to cheat on nature. Humankind still on its infancy. But we will be there within a century if does not reset before then.

Actually, humankind is in our old age. How can we tell? We have discovered things like pyramids, etc., that our best scientists and engineers claim that we would have a difficult time building today, if we could build them at all. Yet we are just scratching the surface of ancient 'stuff' that is out there.

When mankind was in its infancy 6,000 or 7,000 years ago, that's when they built all this stuff we wonder if we could build today. Maybe if the world united, we could build some of it. But our unity seems to be falling apart lately. Just look at the turmoil in the US and Europe.

[Jeremiah001]

If you ask me this same question, I will reply you by saying no, because no matter how we took a sleeping pills to ensure all night dtand6, we will still end up dozing off, same also applies when we are growing, it's natural and we can't deprive ourselves from this, neither can we extend the longevity to how these should happen to man.

I understand that scientist have always been proven making tremendous achievements by improving ways of life through what they have researched, but I recently came across this topic and will appreciate us to drop our opinion on what we see about it.

A set of Chinese researchers are making moves to introduce anti aging pills, that can help improves human existence or longevity of life to about 150 years, this involves the introduction of what will work as anti aging pills, is this a welcome idea or bad initiative we shouldn't accept.

Learn more about it from the reference link below
https://komersant.ua/en/nyt-kytayskyy-startap-rozrobliaie-tabletky-dlia-prodovzhennia-zhyttia-do-150-rokiv/

Basically  nature has been designed for a significant role to play, you can feel it but can't touch what helps matters is the approach towards the existence, you can cheat nature pending on individual interests, some cheat nature by taking risk of which end of distraction, due to some recent advancement in the field of life, try understand the whole concept where it can be base , nature has it own conception

[devlin85]

My question is, why prolong life for so many years? In other words, prolonging life is not the same as prolonging quality of life. Living longer is not very useful if those extra years are spent in frailty, dependence, or cognitive decline. Will that pill also prolong human functionality? The real challenge is not to add decades, but to maintain functionality and dignity.
Science can delay wear and tear, but it cannot replace the natural balance or the human sense of limited time. For me, true progress is not about living twice as long, but about living better the time we already have.

[BADecker]

Exactly man i can barely handle the Monday morning blues right now so imagine doing that for another hundred years, id probably lose my mind before i hit 80

However, you have determined this already. It means that you are intelligent enough to think your way out of the grind... new job; new country; new life that is more fun; etc.

My question is, why prolong life for so many years? In other words, prolonging life is not the same as prolonging quality of life. Living longer is not very useful if those extra years are spent in frailty, dependence, or cognitive decline. Will that pill also prolong human functionality? The real challenge is not to add decades, but to maintain functionality and dignity.
Science can delay wear and tear, but it cannot replace the natural balance or the human sense of limited time. For me, true progress is not about living twice as long, but about living better the time we already have.

The first thing to realize is that in order to live at all, there must be a certain amount of 'quality of life'. The reason why one grows old at all is because of lack of proper nutrition, and proper overall attitude.

Like as death by bullet is disruption of certain physical operations, so death by old age is simply disruption of certain physical operations. In other words, prolonged life has to have good health to even exist.

Nature has built-in methods for living a largely long life, maybe indefinite. But it involves mental and spiritual 'attitude' as well as physical nutrition and exercise. And it requires all these things in balance.

In Jesus's 40-day fast in Matthew in the Bible, He accessed these things. Then, later, in His "Sermon on the Mount," He said to the people, "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened," - https://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/7.htm.

What this means is that long life depends on knowing God, and then asking Him in an appropriate way. And the appropriate way amounts to learning the whole Bible so that you know how to ask God... by first believing that He exists, and then by believing that He saves people through Jesus-salvation.

Life is good and righteous health. Death is lack of health.

[Hazink]

But considering everything, we will find that the physical is simply 'fallout' from the spiritual and mental. Anti-aging nutrients may help. But all they do is give the spiritual something to work with. Without focus on the spiritual, nutrition isn't enough.

Does spirituality have anything to do with drugs? And what it’s being prepared to work on the body for, I know nature has its own way of doing things, but these new inventions really have their way too in terms of health. I just don’t see anything beyond that.

[BADecker]

But considering everything, we will find that the physical is simply 'fallout' from the spiritual and mental. Anti-aging nutrients may help. But all they do is give the spiritual something to work with. Without focus on the spiritual, nutrition isn't enough.

Does spirituality have anything to do with drugs? And what it’s being prepared to work on the body for, I know nature has its own way of doing things, but these new inventions really have their way too in terms of health. I just don’t see anything beyond that.

Consider the drug ayahuasca.

Most people do not have a devastatingly bad effect from using ayahuasca. The few bad cases come from overdoing it.

The famous author, Graham Hancock, confessed that he was a drug addict in earlier days. Using the drug ayahuasca cured his marijuana dependencies as well as opening his mind to clear thinking.

The thing is that it all revolves around spirituality.

Back in the '70s, a surgeon told me that the medical was researching different anesthetic drugs. One particular anesthetic drug, when people came out of it, if they were not Christians, they came out screaming like they were seeing the flames of Hell. They had to be held in a pitch dark room for three days to calm them down. But Christians came out from under, joyful at seeing the glories of Heaven.

[OgNasty]

I saw an advertisement for a hydrogen generator that made me think of this thread.  Part of the advertisement said that they cheat nature by unlocking the hydrogen from water to allow you to absorb it and made lots of claims about health improvements...  So apparently hydrogen generators are nature cheaters. 

[BADecker]

^^^ While that is true, our bodies make hydrogen from sugars. They do it by internal hydrolysis.


From How Does Hydrogen Enter Our Body? - https://www.sciencing.com/hydrogen-enter-body-5247391/:

Of course, this is not the only way that hydrogen can enter the body. The element is part of many different substances on Earth, including others that humans consume. Carbohydrates like sugars and starch use hydrogen as a primary building block and are one of the most important energy sources for humans. The body takes these simple sugars and breaks them down to create the chemicals it uses to gain energy through hydrolysis. Proteins, the building blocks of cells, are also made partially of hydrogen, so when humans eat protein-rich foods such as meat or legumes, they are ingesting even more hydrogen. Fats, too, use hydrogen as a primary component of their atomic structure, along with nucleic acids and bones, although these are not eaten as often by humans.

[SynthWave_99]

I saw an advertisement for a hydrogen generator that made me think of this thread.  Part of the advertisement said that they cheat nature by unlocking the hydrogen from water to allow you to absorb it and made lots of claims about health improvements...  So apparently hydrogen generators are nature cheaters. 

Nature usually wins in the end, breaking chemical bonds takes energy so there is no real cheat there

[Queen uloma]

We can never cheat on nature, as days, weeks, months, and years goes by that is how we are aging, drugs has nothing to do with age and taken drugs to be younger won't work, because old age is a natural thing, that can never been ignore or run from that's the fact about nature, anyone that says they can  cheat on nature has never been truth to themselves, because the bible made us to understand that whatever a man do lies with them, whether Good or bad , it await you, so we need to be careful on what we say or do in this life, so for me old age is a natural thing that we can't run from.

[BADecker]

We can never cheat on nature, as days, weeks, months, and years goes by that is how we are aging, drugs has nothing to do with age and taken drugs to be younger won't work, because old age is a natural thing, that can never been ignore or run from that's the fact about nature, anyone that says they can  cheat on nature has never been truth to themselves, because the bible made us to understand that whatever a man do lies with them, whether Good or bad , it await you, so we need to be careful on what we say or do in this life, so for me old age is a natural thing that we can't run from.

One basic thing. If you stop eating for about 50 days you will die for lack of nutrition. At the final stages, you will look all withered and unnatural, just like a person who is old.

This means that we need to find the right nutrients to extend life naturally. Old people are just nutritionally deficient people... deficient in nutrients (and eating techniques) that we are not aware of.

[Sticky Bomb]

Humankind still not powerful enough to cheat on nature. Humankind still on its infancy. But we will be there within a century if does not reset before then.

Sometimes it is not really about cheating nature but remaining in a certain kind of way for longer based on our choice of living. It is possible to look and feel younger if you hit the gym, eat healthily and avoid drinking too much alcohol.

There are various practices that we can use to kind of alter the supposed natural phenomenon to what we desire for ourselves and as long as we do it naturally and healthily, we are not cheating nature but altering nature to our advantage.

[Dunamisx]

I saw an advertisement for a hydrogen generator that made me think of this thread.  Part of the advertisement said that they cheat nature by unlocking the hydrogen from water to allow you to absorb it and made lots of claims about health improvements...  So apparently hydrogen generators are nature cheaters. 

But we never heard anything about this assuming it turned a successful attempt, it should have gone viral, however, there are lots of theories and hypothesis that man are trying to introduce by the law of science, which may not appropriately fit into the law of nature.

At least up to this time, we have been well advanced into the scientific era and things have been well improvised to the benefits of man, which we can tell from the medical aspect and the social and economical aspects respectively, but however, we still have some limitations to what man can achieve doing in manipulating against nature, fish were built specifically to live in the water, can many made something possible that they turned to live on land without water?.

[gibrab16]

If you ask me this same question, I will reply you by saying no, because no matter how we took a sleeping pills to ensure all night dtand6, we will still end up dozing off, same also applies when we are growing, it's natural and we can't deprive ourselves from this, neither can we extend the longevity to how these should happen to man.

I understand that scientist have always been proven making tremendous achievements by improving ways of life through what they have researched, but I recently came across this topic and will appreciate us to drop our opinion on what we see about it.

A set of Chinese researchers are making moves to introduce anti aging pills, that can help improves human existence or longevity of life to about 150 years, this involves the introduction of what will work as anti aging pills, is this a welcome idea or bad initiative we shouldn't accept.

Learn more about it from the reference link below
https://komersant.ua/en/nyt-kytayskyy-startap-rozrobliaie-tabletky-dlia-prodovzhennia-zhyttia-do-150-rokiv/

what is china not working on? without getting into the ethnical side of things this is just so wrong. were born we age we die its a cycle that they are trying to interrupt and this can have major consequences. i can see why many would feel this to be appealing but really 150 people are scared of death cause is is the one thing that is truly unknown to the human race of what really comes next. so in my answer no we cant beat nature no matter how hard we try

[Btcloop]

Tomorrow is the election. Close your eyes for thirty seconds while voting.

Remember Abu Saeed, Abrar Fahad, Sharif Osman Hadi. Remember the killings in Peelkhana. They were killing 57 patriotic army officers one by one. How the scholars were bloodied in Shapla. Remember those who were victims of disappearances and crossfire for the past sixteen years. They were imprisoned in the three-handed room of the mirror house for years. Remember Riya Gop, who was torn apart by bullets from a helicopter in July before your eyes. Give your valuable vote to the one who your conscience approves, taking responsibility for the trust, struggle and blood of so many martyrs. Do not vote for someone who will start watering the soil with blood again as soon as he gets the smell of power. Due to the mistakes we have made repeatedly, this land still has no blood thirst. We do not want to give blood anymore.  This time, I want to build a new Bangladesh, where you and I will be partners.

[laijsica]

But no one knows about the side effects of this medicine. Perhaps those whose bodies it will be applied to may die tomorrow. Death is eternal truth but most people do not remember this truth. For no reason respiratory function is stopped and death is occurring. No one knows the reason and the correct answer for this.

[bournekin]

If you ask me this same question, I will reply you by saying no, because no matter how we took a sleeping pills to ensure all night dtand6, we will still end up dozing off, same also applies when we are growing, it's natural and we can't deprive ourselves from this, neither can we extend the longevity to how these should happen to man.

I understand that scientist have always been proven making tremendous achievements by improving ways of life through what they have researched, but I recently came across this topic and will appreciate us to drop our opinion on what we see about it.

A set of Chinese researchers are making moves to introduce anti aging pills, that can help improves human existence or longevity of life to about 150 years, this involves the introduction of what will work as anti aging pills, is this a welcome idea or bad initiative we shouldn't accept.

Learn more about it from the reference link below
https://komersant.ua/en/nyt-kytayskyy-startap-rozrobliaie-tabletky-dlia-prodovzhennia-zhyttia-do-150-rokiv/

yea i hear you to be fair it can only be cheated for a matter of time. so these newer inventions cam cheat nature for an extra say 60 years but eventually it will catch up with us. we should not except it to honest but the inventions now a days the rich would by in to if they had the chance to gain from cheating nature like they do everything else in life. there is crazy technology now involving science but the impact these things have on the human race will take time to be shown to us