Dave1 and cryptomaniac_xxx are connected, Abused merit and Sig Campaign

[Minor Miner]

Two Accounts Connected:

1- Dave1  [Betpanda Campaign]
2- cryptomaniac_xxx  [Razed Campaign]

Forum Username; Dave1
Bitcoin Segwit Address: bc1q7z4j7zfevpkjnr606va58n4h4wzx44shz4fj5d

User: cryptomaniac_xxx
BTC Address- bc1qnmd99mjhlq65tt9vghgu9czc8l5eakxz7les7c

At first, Dave1 - bc1q7z4j7zfevpkjnr606va58n4h4wzx44shz4fj5d Moved his Funds to this Address- 3Kr5TSzbxH65pBsKfekvshGd8V9SRKmkGe
Next day, cryptomaniac_xxx - bc1qnmd99mjhlq65tt9vghgu9czc8l5eakxz7les7c also Moved his Funds to the same Address- 3Kr5TSzbxH65pBsKfekvshGd8V9SRKmkGe



He moved his campaign payments to the same wallet.

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Abused Merit
cryptomaniac_xxx Sent a total of 19 merits to Dave1
And Dave1 sent a total of 25 merits to cryptomaniac_xxx
So, he exchanged a total of 44 merits between his alts- https://loyce.club/Merit/history/2789889.html
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Applied many campaigns with his alt










So basically, he took full advantage of the merit system and abused it massively to sneak into the signature campaign.
And on top of that, he has been involved in multiple campaigns, even though the Campaign Manager made it crystal clear that using an alt account is off limits.

[julerz12]

Another day, another alt. Pretty sure any of these would be the response.
1. That's an exchange's wallet address (points at random exchange)
2. We both sold our BTC to that guy (points at random newbie)
3. He's a close friend of mine. We pooled our BTC to have less fees.
4. He has good topics, deserves my merit
5. I only applied my alt, if both accepted, I only use one.

[Xiestar]

Do the exchange transfer happened at the same time? There’s a lot of P2P merchant that has telegram group to do their P2P instead of the exchange platform.

But based on evidence suggested they are most likely an alt account but I doubt the current evidence is enough to warrant a negative.

If merit abused is a crime those fruit carver on Nigerian board should have a negative trust. Including the OP of this thread for being a most probably purchased account that is not allowed in the forum.

[Minor Miner]

Another day, another alt. Pretty sure any of these would be the response.
1. That's an exchange's wallet address (points at random exchange)
2. We both sold our BTC to that guy (points at random newbie)
3. He's a close friend of mine. We pooled our BTC to have less fees.
4. He has good topics, deserves my merit
5. I only applied my alt, if both accepted, I only use one.

I don't think he could reply here beyond this , this is a failed attempt to save himself. I believe he has many more alt accounts in various campaigns.

I also didn't have time to search much, but I will do that later. But I was suddenly looking at the spreadsheet of the Duelbits campaign, and his wallet change came to mind.

He was changing it via private message. That's why his address couldn't be traced on Ninjastic. That's his trick!

And the merit he is abusing so badly is why he is easily identified.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I don't think he could reply here beyond this , this is a failed attempt to save himself. I believe he has many more alt accounts in various campaigns.

I also didn't have time to search much, but I will do that later. But I was suddenly looking at the spreadsheet of the Duelbits campaign, and his wallet change came to mind.

He was changing it via private message. That's why his address couldn't be traced on Ninjastic. That's his trick!

And the merit he is abusing so badly is why he is easily identified.

You make a great observation. I saw some other names that looked familiar in that spreadsheet. Kemarit’s address doesn’t appear on Ninjastic either. When we look at the history of the address he used, bc1q88x489a6qgdnvdefz3z55yr8yl5v0aceklk2wj, the last transfer he made was to Jating’s address bc1qx6qxfksg38jmhjwp0tmdgg3krqtjyw80gcaujz

https://mempool.space/tx/b0944a5cae6c576fdb773e8b6b483f10ae9c4725aa07e0f409170cb5da581252

Then the funds in Jating’s address get consolidated along with cryptomaniac_xxx funds in address bc1qcn2m22khfztx4e002mmuve4rf7r4gslz48afl6.

https://mempool.space/tx/d38c7f87c9e64b818d055d5fe1e4de51505d04e76a39ca059215c3b87c6e8130#vin=9

[dkbit98]

How exactly those two accounts abused signature campaigns? Did they join and participate in the same campaign or no?

I can see potential connection with bitcoin addresses and merit exchange, but I see them in different campaigns now.
Another similarity I see is that both accounts are writing mostly in same boards, that can be seen on Ninjastic website:
https://ninjastic.space/user/id/1143990
https://ninjastic.space/user/id/2789889

[The Sceptical Chymist]

If merit abused is a crime those fruit carver on Nigerian board should have a negative trust. Including the OP of this thread for being a most probably purchased account that is not allowed in the forum.

Fruit carver(s)?

Just FYI to anybody who hasn't been here since at least 2018:  merit abuse is at best a no-no that Theymos doesn't really want the community to punish that harshly, which is why there aren't a thousand threads in the Reputation section calling people out for it or negative trust being handed out by DT members or anyone else.  On top of that, account sales aren't against any rules here, though there are some of us who think the practice is anathema to the forum's health (for a whole bunch of reasons).

That said, doing either one is likely to tarnish a member's reputation and bitcointalk has a very, very long memory when it comes to those types of things.

[logfiles]

You make a great observation. I saw some other names that looked familiar in that spreadsheet. Kemarit’s address doesn’t appear on Ninjastic either. When we look at the history of the address he used, bc1q88x489a6qgdnvdefz3z55yr8yl5v0aceklk2wj, the last transfer he made was to Jating’s address bc1qx6qxfksg38jmhjwp0tmdgg3krqtjyw80gcaujz

https://mempool.space/tx/b0944a5cae6c576fdb773e8b6b483f10ae9c4725aa07e0f409170cb5da581252

Then the funds in Jating’s address get consolidated along with cryptomaniac_xxx funds in address bc1qcn2m22khfztx4e002mmuve4rf7r4gslz48afl6.

https://mempool.space/tx/d38c7f87c9e64b818d055d5fe1e4de51505d04e76a39ca059215c3b87c6e8130#vin=9

Just trying to get into the bottom of this,

Does this imply that Dave1 and cryptomaniac_xxx are part of the might farm that was uncovered recently (A legendary member who owns at least 9 more accounts is cheating sig campaigns). If this is true, then Jating was really committed in cheating.

And could be having some more alts which is why he never bothered to defend the other accounts once they were exposed.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Just trying to get into the bottom of this,

Does this imply that Dave1 and cryptomaniac_xxx are part of the might farm that was uncovered recently (A legendary member who owns at least 9 more accounts is cheating sig campaigns). If this is true, then Jating was really committed in cheating.

And could be having some more alts which is why he never bothered to defend the other accounts once they were exposed.

At the very least it proves they were using the same custodial services. Writing the same kind of threads in the same style, and sending most of their merits to a small set of accounts who are also engaging in similar behavior, is enough circumstantial evidence to make me believe there is a connection between these accounts. If they are not all the same person, then there is a conspiracy between a few users to artificially inflate each other’s alts’ merit totals to cheat in campaigns and then cashing out their earnings through similar methods.

[Xiestar]

Just trying to get into the bottom of this,

Does this imply that Dave1 and cryptomaniac_xxx are part of the might farm that was uncovered recently (A legendary member who owns at least 9 more accounts is cheating sig campaigns). If this is true, then Jating was really committed in cheating.

And could be having some more alts which is why he never bothered to defend the other accounts once they were exposed.

At the very least it proves they were using the same custodial services. Writing the same kind of threads in the same style, and sending most of their merits to a small set of accounts who are also engaging in similar behavior, is enough circumstantial evidence to make me believe there is a connection between these accounts. If they are not all the same person, then there is a conspiracy between a few users to artificially inflate each other’s alts’ merit totals to cheat in campaigns and then cashing out their earnings through similar methods.

A lot of user doing this on Nigerian board. Posting on merit spam thread, participating on contest that distribute merit and post the same pattern talking shit about football and hyping Bitcoin.

They occasionally send merit consecutively to a merit jerker buddy on the post positioned on the middle of thread that shows they have connection.

If this is already a circumstantial evidence I think we should do something on that board.

[cooinnoo22]

I think all this drama and theatrics just for the fact that there are more and more campaigns now in the community.


Isn't this what the community wants ? Traffic? And these companies know this and are actively coming cause they are also growing and benefiting so what's all the fuzz about.

If theymos was someone easily influenced, most of you guys would have made sure he ban even signature promotions here because that's the cause of all the envy that's leading to the recent drama in this community.

[Xiestar]

I think all this drama and theatrics just for the fact that there are more and more campaigns now in the community.


Isn't this what the community wants ? Traffic? And these companies know this and are actively coming cause they are also growing and benefiting so what's all the fuzz about.

If theymos was someone easily influenced, most of you guys would have made sure he ban even signature promotions here because that's the cause of all the envy that's leading to the recent drama in this community.

I support the idea of busting account farmer that cheating on the same campaign but what I don’t like on the current alt account investigation flow is the most diabolical are frequently being ignored which is the blatant merit jerking from a country that now have a bunch of merit source pouring down on their members even on a nonsensical statement that you can read on general Bitcoin discussion thread that doesn’t have a merit.

They are capitalizing their merit among their fellow local member then join on signature campaign that accepts user based on sheer value of merit alone regardless if it’s gotten on fruit carving, pumpkin carving and other cooking or from thread that JJG pour merit frequently.

If campaign manager will revert back the criteria of checking the actual post quality instead of merit counts most importantly on the board that their company should be promoted maybe this cancer jerker will lessen their account farming.

But now the system is working. Investigator caught old account that commit mistake in the past and let this next generation “fresh blood” motherfucker merit whore replace all the spot even enrolled on single campaign to operate legally due to no blockchain trail connection.

The number of organic user here drop significantly which a 5 to 10 people from Nigeria can handle 100+ account and counting. Check out those low rank member suddenly create account and knew immediately how to fish merit like their predecessor done in the past. It’s easier because they have lot of merit source.

[Minor Miner]

How exactly those two accounts abused signature campaigns? Did they join and participate in the same campaign or no?

I can see potential connection with bitcoin addresses and merit exchange, but I see them in different campaigns now.
Another similarity I see is that both accounts are writing mostly in same boards, that can be seen on Ninjastic website:
https://ninjastic.space/user/id/1143990
https://ninjastic.space/user/id/2789889

No, I didn't find that he got accepted into the same campaign

But he applied with both of his IDs in the same signature campaign, even though the CM strictly stated that enrolling alt is not allowed.

So, the best he could say in this case is:

5. I only applied my alt, if both accepted, I only use one.

Just trying to get into the bottom of this,

Does this imply that Dave1 and cryptomaniac_xxx are part of the might farm that was uncovered recently (A legendary member who owns at least 9 more accounts is cheating sig campaigns). If this is true, then Jating was really committed in cheating.

And could be having some more alts which is why he never bothered to defend the other accounts once they were exposed.

Simple answer is "NO".

Although Dave1 and cryptomaniac_xxx are connected to each other cause they sent funds from their personal wallet to the same exchange wallet, but on the basis of BTC transaction, we can't say Dave1 and cryptomaniac_xxx are connected with @Jating, Cause those input addresses are from a centralised exchange.

However, as @FinneysTrueVision said, if you look over their writing style and merit sending behaviour, then obviously you could connect them.

[Minor Miner]

Including the OP of this thread for being a most probably purchased account that is not allowed in the forum.

This is kinda off-topic in here. I explained everything where it should have been. If you lost your account somehow, you could contact the recovery team, and that team would only return the account to you if you were able to provide a valid sign message. The best I could say is "Not your keys, not your coin Account"
I already provided my sign message. But yeah, I can't force people to drop their doubts if they're stuck thinking negatively about me cause I gave a loan whom they think cheater, maybe cheater, I dunno.