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November 15, 2025, 09:00:17 PM
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Some of us might have heard of the trending saga online from Nigeria between the Federal Capital Territory Minister and A Lieutenant Naval Military Officer. To be brief about it, the minister has been sending policemen to stop the building project of a land owned by a retired. Naval Admiral, who was a former Chief of Naval Staff, claimed they had no documents or authorization to build, and no approval was granted.

The Admiral sent his soldiers to stand in defense of what's going on, while the Minister visits the site and has a confrontation with the Military sent by the Admiral, so that all the legal proceedings were duly followed and the land was acquired legally, as they have claimed.

But it turned into a serious argument between the Minister and the Naval Officer in charge, and this turned into a serious fight as the police escorts to the Minister engaged the Military Officers in defense of the Minister. This took them some time, and the arguments.

The Minister said you're a fool,
The Military Officer responded, Sir I'm not a fool,
I am an officer of the law,
I only obey orders

Watch and see the live recording for yourself.
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Military and Politician,  who is Superior?

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November 15, 2025, 09:20:01 PM
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Military and Politician,  who is Superior?
Neither of them, because both of them are supposed to serve their country, means they should see their people as superior ones. Cheesy

Now come to the reality, politicians may not be in power for long time like an officer but they are the one who create laws so they can turn one thing upside down and can still call it legal because they can do it, while everyone in the country can only follow what is legal.

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November 15, 2025, 10:53:42 PM
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Military and Politician,  who is Superior?
Neither of them, because both of them are supposed to serve their country, means they should see their people as superior ones. Cheesy

This is not the logic in African countries. In Africa, the superior is the one who has more weapons and support from world major powers. People are never to be superior because they are manipulated to set (not elect) corrupt people as politicians, which are those in their turn nominate militaries.

In a country that respect its citizens, you would never see a military fighting a politicians, while both of them claim to represent the law and the willing of the people. Only in Africa you can see the army ruling the country and politicians playing the role traitorous agents working for foreign countries.

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November 15, 2025, 11:11:25 PM
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truth be told in situations like this, the problem is not about who is superior! it is about following the right process because a military officer is trained to obey orders from his superiors, not from politicians and that is why he said, i am not a fool, i only obey orders. he was simply doing his job. beside a minister has authority in government matters, but he cannot directly command a military officer. the military has its own chain of command and the officer was following that chain

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November 16, 2025, 01:22:02 AM
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The military are superior. Every governments have the support or cooperation from the military forces in order to ensure stability and order. Politicians are the official rulers in front of the cameras, but if they try going against the military, they are doomed, what means the military's interests are priority.

And side by side with the military, you have the judiciary system. Both are on the top of the pyramid, followed by the politicians and riches in general.

So much is talked about democracy and bla, bla, bla. All lies. The interests of a minority always prevail over the necessities of the majority, which is composed by a mass of ignorant fools. Nothing new here since the beginning of human civilization.

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November 16, 2025, 02:43:43 AM
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Some of us might have heard of the trending saga online from Nigeria between the Federal Capital Territory Minister and A Lieutenant Naval Military Officer. To be brief about it, the minister has been sending policemen to stop the building project of a land owned by a retired. Naval Admiral, who was a former Chief of Naval Staff, claimed they had no documents or authorization to build, and no approval was granted.

The Admiral sent his soldiers to stand in defense of what's going on, while the Minister visits the site and has a confrontation with the Military sent by the Admiral, so that all the legal proceedings were duly followed and the land was acquired legally, as they have claimed.

But it turned into a serious argument between the Minister and the Naval Officer in charge, and this turned into a serious fight as the police escorts to the Minister engaged the Military Officers in defense of the Minister. This took them some time, and the arguments.

The Minister said you're a fool,
The Military Officer responded, Sir I'm not a fool,
I am an officer of the law,
I only obey orders

Watch and see the live recording for yourself.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQ919gKAIll/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

Military and Politician,  who is Superior?

The law is superior. If there is legal documents proving either side then that should be followed regardless of rank. Both of them are powerful enough to manipulate the situation. Both of them have connections that can harm the other party but at the end they should just settle this in court. That’s the only way to do it.
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November 16, 2025, 09:20:25 AM
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Some of us might have heard of the trending saga online from Nigeria between the Federal Capital Territory Minister and A Lieutenant Naval Military Officer. To be brief about it, the minister has been sending policemen to stop the building project of a land owned by a retired. Naval Admiral, who was a former Chief of Naval Staff, claimed they had no documents or authorization to build, and no approval was granted.

The Admiral sent his soldiers to stand in defense of what's going on, while the Minister visits the site and has a confrontation with the Military sent by the Admiral, so that all the legal proceedings were duly followed and the land was acquired legally, as they have claimed.

But it turned into a serious argument between the Minister and the Naval Officer in charge, and this turned into a serious fight as the police escorts to the Minister engaged the Military Officers in defense of the Minister. This took them some time, and the arguments.

The Minister said you're a fool,
The Military Officer responded, Sir I'm not a fool,
I am an officer of the law,
I only obey orders

Watch and see the live recording for yourself.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQ919gKAIll/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

Military and Politician,  who is Superior?

The information and lesson i got from the whole thing that happened between the minitary and wike is that, for every uniform personnel there respect must be Accord no matter the office one must be holding, like wise they say a respect is a reciprocal to those who reciprocate, so that you will never be messed up by any uniform personnel like the way wike did to himself by drawing the attention of a the public to such act.

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November 16, 2025, 10:28:05 AM
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truth be told in situations like this, the problem is not about who is superior! it is about following the right process because a military officer is trained to obey orders from his superiors, not from politicians and that is why he said, i am not a fool, i only obey orders. he was simply doing his job. beside a minister has authority in government matters, but he cannot directly command a military officer. the military has its own chain of command and the officer was following that chain
The military officers always obeys laws and order from their commander and also from their superior officer, it's only the president who is the commander in chief of all army forces, the minister has no right to give order to the military officers when the order is not given to him by his boss in office, besides the land in question is also own by a higher superior officer and all documents about the land is original. The power that the minister Wike was trying to posses can only be done by the president.

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November 16, 2025, 03:14:39 PM
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A civilian doesn't have right over a military man that is on duty based on order given to him by his commander. However, in Africa these so called politicians and military officers have seen themselves as superior over one another because they're corrupt and want to exercise their powers.


The minister is wrong and has no right over the naval officer but he feels that he can do whatever, he likes and get away with it just like what he does in his State and people wouldn't do anything. They use their power to oppress people not equal to them.

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November 16, 2025, 03:53:01 PM
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The military officers always obeys laws and order from their commander and also from their superior officer, it's only the president who is the commander in chief of all army forces, the minister has no right to give order to the military officers when the order is not given to him by his boss in office

Exactly, that is how it works in the majority of countries.
Also, in this case "building project of a land owned by a retired" you'll need the order of a judge to stop the building.
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Just a thought. After WW2, the Nuremberg trials took place. These trials existed to appropriately punish German military people for crimes they did during the war. Many of the German soldiers said that they were only following orders. Yet they were punished for crimes against people, even though they were only following orders.

What is more important?, following orders or treating people fairly? The Nuremberg trials say that treating people fairly is more important than following orders.


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November 16, 2025, 07:09:11 PM
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Some of us might have heard of the trending saga online from Nigeria between the Federal Capital Territory Minister and A Lieutenant Naval Military Officer. To be brief about it, the minister has been sending policemen to stop the building project of a land owned by a retired. Naval Admiral, who was a former Chief of Naval Staff, claimed they had no documents or authorization to build, and no approval was granted.

The Admiral sent his soldiers to stand in defense of what's going on, while the Minister visits the site and has a confrontation with the Military sent by the Admiral, so that all the legal proceedings were duly followed and the land was acquired legally, as they have claimed.

But it turned into a serious argument between the Minister and the Naval Officer in charge, and this turned into a serious fight as the police escorts to the Minister engaged the Military Officers in defense of the Minister. This took them some time, and the arguments.

The Minister said you're a fool,
The Military Officer responded, Sir I'm not a fool,
I am an officer of the law,
I only obey orders

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Military and Politician,  who is Superior?

The law is superior. If there is legal documents proving either side then that should be followed regardless of rank. Both of them are powerful enough to manipulate the situation. Both of them have connections that can harm the other party but at the end they should just settle this in court. That’s the only way to do it.

A minister and a military officer trading insults is not some thing we should be seeing in a country with clear laws  and respect, at the end of day if the land acquire legally then there are formal channels to verify that. i absolutely admire the composure of the officer, He said i am not a fool , i only obey orders  that line says a lot about discipline.

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November 16, 2025, 07:23:36 PM
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What is more important?, following orders or treating people fairly? The Nuremberg trials say that treating people fairly is more important than following orders.


Well, it is clear that it also depends on the circumstances in which the war is resolved and how the winning side handles the situation and those crimes committed by their adversaries during war time. Obviously, the United States and the allies wanted to make an example our of the German defeat and there was also the fact those crimes committed were specially damning and clearly a violation of basic human decency...

There will be people who will argue that they were only following orders and they would have regarded as good soldiers had the United States lost the war against the Third Reich. There are even people who believe the Trials of Nuremberg were not unbiased...

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November 16, 2025, 09:58:27 PM
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What is more important?, following orders or treating people fairly? The Nuremberg trials say that treating people fairly is more important than following orders.


Well, it is clear that it also depends on the circumstances in which the war is resolved and how the winning side handles the situation and those crimes committed by their adversaries during war time. Obviously, the United States and the allies wanted to make an example our of the German defeat and there was also the fact those crimes committed were specially damning and clearly a violation of basic human decency...

There will be people who will argue that they were only following orders and they would have regarded as good soldiers had the United States lost the war against the Third Reich. There are even people who believe the Trials of Nuremberg were not unbiased...

You almost sound like you support things like 'Stalag 13' and 'Bergen-Belsen' and Auschwitz and the Holocaust and not treating POW's with fairness. Of course, the US was full of doing inhuman things to German troops. But it was their anger for the way German troops treated people that caused them to be unfair to Germans after the war.

Consider https://www.thejc.com/life/the-holocaust-documentary-my-father-made-with-alfred-hitchcock-mthqx9yp and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vmz0ZiYiqA. I have the whole Alfred Hitchcock film which lasts almost an hour. You would not believe the atrocities done by Germans in Bergen-Belsen... to average people and Jews.

I realize that when you are under orders from your commanders, that it is hard to act humanely. But the people and POW's in concentration camps are not much of a threat. Reality is not exactly like "Hogan's Heroes."


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November 16, 2025, 10:46:43 PM
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A civilian doesn't have right over a military man that is on duty based on order given to him by his commander. However, in Africa these so called politicians and military officers have seen themselves as superior over one another because they're corrupt and want to exercise their powers.


The minister is wrong and has no right over the naval officer but he feels that he can do whatever, he likes and get away with it just like what he does in his State and people wouldn't do anything. They use their power to oppress people not equal to them.

From what I observed in that video, the minister tried to intimidate the military officer with his power, claiming he was acting in order, but his actions were wrong because he didn't follow protocol. The military officer was polite, which is why he said he only obeys the law. I expected the minister to go to his office and speak with the officer's superior directly not that dragging he was doing in public, but instead he tried to use his position to intimidate the officer and which backfired. He never expected someone like the guy to challenge him.

What irritated me most about that video were the police officers supporting the minister, despite knowing he was wrong. They even tried to fight with the military officer, who stood up and made Nigerians proud by defending their right. The reason things keep getting worse in this country is that we don't know our rights and we are afraid to speak up, despite getting hurt every day. But I believe what this military officer did it will open the youths eyes to fight for their freedom.

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November 16, 2025, 11:24:38 PM
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Well I might have felt disappointed with both citizens trying to show themselves, and making it public, according to a man called 'Amirizie' state that any angle one faces is determined by him to be straight line even, if his statement is not world wide proven to be correct ,I see it to be correct. Any working nation where laws and policy worked it's very wrong for the both parties, wike may be right as federal para-starter working under democratic rule which we operate oversee land and properties under the state his serving, likewise the officer who is obeying command by his boss. But one major factor see between the incident is the show of power and autocratic nature of our leaders, because issues like this would have been settled in closed door it would not have reached the stage of mobilizing military to site security private land of past land , it also shows how individual and use our force for private business, this issue is very wide but diplomatic measure would have show more majority.

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November 16, 2025, 11:28:28 PM
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Well, the military officer and the minister have sworn to do their duty and I think that the military officer is just doing the right thing. This politician is trying to use his position for his subordinates to follow and he thinks that everyone is under him but they're not. And while there is no official proof of ownership of the land, the minister has to take that loss. He wants to protect it while doing the process of obtaining it because they have no valid proof that they own it yet, maybe if given time they'd able to do that but the military themselves are just doing their duties.

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November 17, 2025, 03:08:54 AM
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I've been following up with your individual contributions towards  this discussion and have seen a lot to take on as points of consideration on both sides, because they have sworn to serve and protect the interest of the people, seeing them in this act deplict their value.

Another to consider is in bringing personal affairs into political or public matters, let's take for instance I don't support a person, who also is in power, then I may try as much as possible to show or display the highest of my abilities to humiliate such person, only because he's not in good terms with me.

Who knows maybe they both have been dragging on this before the appearance on physical confrontation.

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Some of us might have heard of the trending saga online from Nigeria between the Federal Capital Territory Minister and A Lieutenant Naval Military Officer. To be brief about it, the minister has been sending policemen to stop the building project of a land owned by a retired. Naval Admiral, who was a former Chief of Naval Staff, claimed they had no documents or authorization to build, and no approval was granted.

The Admiral sent his soldiers to stand in defense of what's going on, while the Minister visits the site and has a confrontation with the Military sent by the Admiral, so that all the legal proceedings were duly followed and the land was acquired legally, as they have claimed.

But it turned into a serious argument between the Minister and the Naval Officer in charge, and this turned into a serious fight as the police escorts to the Minister engaged the Military Officers in defense of the Minister. This took them some time, and the arguments.

The Minister said you're a fool,
The Military Officer responded, Sir I'm not a fool,
I am an officer of the law,
I only obey orders

Watch and see the live recording for yourself.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQ919gKAIll/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw==

Military and Politician,  who is Superior?

It's very wrong for the Navy officer to disrespect the minister,the minister is in power and is very wrong to talk to the minister in such manner, now a strong bill has been pass to law but still debating on it that soilders should be answerable to government officials that we are not longer in military region where soilders take order directly from their seniors in the office or high rank but be answerable to government officials, because they are the once in power,soilders are not in power ,first people you should consider in a country is the government officials not the soilders,the soilders are only security who should be called at any time to secure life and prosperity, soilders don't have right to disobey any government officials,when this came up I blamed the navy officer and the commander the three star general yerima,why must he give such other to his boy against the minister,do you know who is a minister, minister is a very important hand tools of the president, president can't work without his subordinate which are the minister and you call your self a soilder ordinary soilder it's bad for that soilders to disobey the minister,the minister is working in the favour of the president and they are giving reports to the president and house of Senate where the power lays ,and you said the soilders has right over them ?

All the military both their head in military should be answerable to government this is a pure judgement and a good law enforcement,we are not in military government anymore were military are answerable to their Superiors.
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November 17, 2025, 02:22:13 PM
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This news is everywhere, the minister of Federal capital territory Wike has been using his position of power to maltreat people and demolished people's houses. The reason why it went viral in my opinion is because I don't think there's any citizen of Nigeria that have stand face to face to challenge a politicians of such stature and that's exactly what did military officer. From what I saw in the video, he was doing his job because his authority comes from his superior, and he shouldn't go against that the truth is he did nothing wrong to the minister.

Ezenwo Wike wanted the officer to obey him at all costs, even if it meant going against his superior's orders. As a minister I expected him to contact the officer's superior to resolve the issue amicably. Honestly, he disappointed himself, and many people were happy over this because our politicians usually treat citizens like we don't have any rights in this country, they just want us to work under their command whether it's right or wrong.

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