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November 23, 2025, 02:19:04 PM
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Education should not be done solely because one can get a better paying job, it is supposed to be make us knowledgeable and with that we should be making money.

Anyway, I guess we are passed the era of prestigious schools and universities, now people are not guaranteed a job solely because of their certificate but companies started preferring the candidates who are capable of completing the job that they are hired for.

This is not entirely correct, it depends on the field and industry, and does not apply to all fields.

Nowadays, there are only a few fields that no longer value degrees but instead prioritize experience and skills. Among them, the most prominent is probably the information technology industry but that does not apply to other fields. Such as jobs related to health care, banking, construction or government jobs. I don't think you can get hired in any field without a degree.

Additionally, not having a degree will be a huge disadvantage if you intend to work towards career advancement. Because senior positions in a company often require a degree and many years of experience.

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November 23, 2025, 02:32:35 PM
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But has education ever been accessible? Back then only the elite was able to study.

You have a point. It was a commodity and only for the elite... but it has changed. I think that people still don't know how to use the internet properly, and how to learn for free. The Internet is a big changer, but it can be hard to find the things you are looking for without proper knowledge, and sometimes it can take time to find what you want... but it's a thing, if you really want something, you will find it eventually, you just need to keep looking.


 
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November 23, 2025, 02:51:10 PM
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Education is only a right when you have money to those that don't have money to afford education they don't have the right to education till they make money to afford it. I have thought about this many times and sometimes I wonder why they say education is among the fundamental human rights when you can't get quality education you want if you don't have money. I agree with you that education is a commodity because what is considered as a right should be free without exchanging anything for it.

When we don’t pay a price, we don’t really feel the value of education itself. If we don’t have the money, we spend a lot of time searching for the information we need at minimal cost or for free, and that becomes our price for the knowledge we gain. We value it because we paid a high price with our time and effort.If we have the financial means,and we pay, then understanding the value of knowledge also makes us more responsible and committed to learning. If everything were easily accessible, it would simply lose its importance and value.

With how you have narrated things are you saying that air we get for free has lost it's importance and value? That aside, the sunlight and the rainfall that we get for free from nature have they also lost their importance and value? People who know the worth of education will appreciate it when it is given for free. We know that in everything there are always sets of people that will abuse it, but the few doesn't represent the interest of all. Education should be made free if it is human rights let those that will abuse it abuse it, but that doesn't mean that the majority of the people won't appreciate it.

 
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November 23, 2025, 03:04:17 PM
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Because the truth is there usually are generalizations when it comes to these prestigious schools. For example, Harvard. Someone from harvard would be idolized and thought of someone who is intelligent and probably has a lot of connections. Harvard sells. When you get into these prestigious schools, more than education, you are also paying for the name of the school. But why are we paying for education? To make more money. Education is an investment wherein we expect huge returns after graduation.

Everything now is done with the purpose of making more money in the future. Are there people who go to school just simply wanting to learn? No. Most of the time, students consider the profit they will be making and the job they can get with the degrees they will get.
This still adheres to ancient thought patterns. In the modern era, his mindset is no longer like that because wherever he studies, if the output of what he gets while studying can provide convenience and benefits for himself and his environment, then it doesn't matter which university he studies at.

I and the environment where I live no longer care about such status in the field of education. As long as someone can give what is best for progress and does not disturb the social environment, not going to school is still considered important.
It's about humanizing people.

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November 23, 2025, 03:28:20 PM
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It's is said that education is the key to achieve success,and that statement is true,but always remember to be determined and hardworking.
Education is a right and a necessity but it’s not the only basis of success. I know a lot of people wish to have pursued education but due to certain life circumstances they are forced to go into the workforce immediately. This doesn’t mean they are any less successful though.

Education is the only key and prerequisite to success. Without education, there can be no success. How can a person who cannot read or write, cannot do basic calculations, and only performs manual labor hope to rise and succeed in modern society?

However, education is not necessarily limited to attending school or graduating from college. Education and knowledge can also be accumulated through self-study, through daily life, or through many other means. It is not necessary to follow the traditional path (school) to get education and knowledge.

You can be successful without going to school, without a college degree, but you cannot be successful without the proper education and knowledge.

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November 23, 2025, 03:58:51 PM
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At present, if education is taken only for the purpose of obtaining a certificate, then there is no real value in that education. Educational institutions make so many rules that a student has to pass the academic period by following those rules. Educational institutions are made in such a way that money plays the main role. Only those who are rich in the society get the opportunity to pursue higher education. Education has now become a form of business. Only obtaining a degree is the main purpose of higher education. But I do not think that this education is of much use in the workplace. If educational institutions provide real education, then students can move forward in all areas of life with their education.


With or without certifications we should value and embrace quality education.Yes education is an investment both personally and socially,it shows how valuable it produces returns in a lifetime.The benefits of education continues to be evident and beneficial throughout a person's life.Education is an investment because it requires resources now to make economic,social and personal benefits in the future.Education is an investment not only to individuals but to nations.

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November 23, 2025, 04:20:36 PM
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In order to simply study without waiting for future earnings from investing in their education, the problem of having money must be solved for the student. That is why some talented students are given grants so that they can study for the sake of science without worrying about money. Everyone else, even if they want to study in order to develop science, has to think first of all about their daily bread.

This education system has been created by the modern social structure and will never change. People can only adapt. But this was not always the case and not everywhere. For example, in the USSR, any education was free. There were even cases when people received two or even three higher educations for free. And if free medicine was not of the best quality then, education was at a very high level. By the way, many international students also studied for free at that time.

So education doesn't have to be a commodity. Many aspects of society's life should not have been a commodity at all. But they were made that way. For example, religion has also been turned into a commodity. Of course, the question of who is doing this to society and why is rhetorical.


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November 23, 2025, 04:55:55 PM
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But has education ever been accessible? Back then only the elite was able to study.

You have a point. It was a commodity and only for the elite... but it has changed. I think that people still don't know how to use the internet properly, and how to learn for free. The Internet is a big changer, but it can be hard to find the things you are looking for without proper knowledge, and sometimes it can take time to find what you want... but it's a thing, if you really want something, you will find it eventually, you just need to keep looking.
Since we are not in the ancient days where education can be seen as a commodity, people can now go to schools and acquire education because now, it has been seen as an intellectual right for everybody that want to get education after their elementary schools to seek for college education so they can be fit in the society. Education is the backbone of a society and the government knows this that is why their re so many establish universities and colleges for people to go and complete their educational level.

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Education is considered a right of every citizen. But has education ever been accessible? Back then only the elite was able to study. Only a few have been able to read and be considered educated. If you are wealthy you can study and even though now education has become more accessible the truth is still only the wealthy can get highest quality of education. But now schools are selling education. They are promoting the culture and prestige of their schools.
What drugs are you smoking man? Information and education was extremely exclusive in the past, this is correct. However, information and education has never been more accessible as now. Having a degree from some university does not guarantee that you are educated, it just guarantees that you actually passed all the homework and exams that they provide. Anyone can get educated in most subjects today for free with the use of internet. Meanwhile they are scrolling social media and playing mobile games. The problem is not accessibility of education, the problem is the backwardness and laziness of most people. Don't provide excuses for your failures, don't blame others, instead take responsibility for the consequences of your own actions.

Because the truth is there usually are generalizations when it comes to these prestigious schools. For example, Harvard. Someone from harvard would be idolized and thought of someone who is intelligent and probably has a lot of connections. Harvard sells. When you get into these prestigious schools, more than education, you are also paying for the name of the school. But why are we paying for education? To make more money. Education is an investment wherein we expect huge returns after graduation.
Networking is not education, reputation is not education either. These are things that help you get a job easier, but they are not education. Harvard is not even close to the strictest university out there, many people who graduate there will be less educated than people who come from other universities.

Everything now is done with the purpose of making more money in the future. Are there people who go to school just simply wanting to learn? No. Most of the time, students consider the profit they will be making and the job they can get with the degrees they will get.
Yeah and? The problem is the people as I told you. If people don't care to be educated, it is their problem. You can't force someone to get educated.

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November 23, 2025, 05:18:44 PM
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Everything now is done with the purpose of making more money in the future. Are there people who go to school just simply wanting to learn? No. Most of the time, students consider the profit they will be making and the job they can get with the degrees they will get.
You are right, education is an investment, because just like an investment, a student spends a lot of time getting a degree, then he becomes graduated, does his PHD, becomes more intelligent, they build problem-solving skills, they build not-giving-up skills.

They have other skills along with these two so they changed the history of the world. How do you think we got this smartphone, or the internet, or planes, or anything you are seeing today? How do you think these people made them? Do you think all of these came out of Doremon's pocket, haha? Bro education is investment many is doing it for money no doubt, but they are on the track that is going to do no help to this community the ones who are actually doing something for the community and when they get succeed they also get to make money but that's not why they are doing it, but because of their craze over exploring, testing, not resting, they don't stop thinking, they do, whatever it takes.

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Everything now is done with the purpose of making more money in the future. Are there people who go to school just simply wanting to learn? No. Most of the time, students consider the profit they will be making and the job they can get with the degrees they will get.
My understanding is that the basic definition of education is not a commodity, you have seen those who are successful and have an established economy not based on education, but they have an established financial economy from the business they run and many of them have degrees but are unemployed without work and passive income.

For me, education is a journey to develop oneself, skills or values ​​to form a character for a career, not just to pursue a degree and work in government. teachers and lecturers hope that their students can have independent careers and can create jobs for the unemployed to produce a stable economy. I think that is the true meaning of education, not just degrees and workers.

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November 23, 2025, 07:32:20 PM
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Education is considered a right of every citizen. But has education ever been accessible? Back then only the elite was able to study. Only a few have been able to read and be considered educated. If you are wealthy you can study and even though now education has become more accessible the truth is still only the wealthy can get highest quality of education. But now schools are selling education. They are promoting the culture and prestige of their schools.
What drugs are you smoking man? Information and education was extremely exclusive in the past, this is correct. However, information and education has never been more accessible as now. Having a degree from some university does not guarantee that you are educated, it just guarantees that you actually passed all the homework and exams that they provide. Anyone can get educated in most subjects today for free with the use of internet. Meanwhile they are scrolling social media and playing mobile games. The problem is not accessibility of education, the problem is the backwardness and laziness of most people. Don't provide excuses for your failures, don't blame others, instead take responsibility for the consequences of your own actions.

We know that most of the people are completing their study for only money. They are doing hard work to get handsome money and I Know there are many degrees which could be sell or could be rented and we can get rent of that and there are most of degrees which require to do work to get income but there are certificates which give us authority to do work at any place . There are millions of people who want to be doctor, Engineer and Lawyer and they want to be because they see good amount of money in these fields .Money is spent on the degrees because these are very costly. People should learn more about how to earn more and more money and people with high quality degrees are earning good And pharmacy degree is one of the best degrees.

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November 23, 2025, 07:34:15 PM
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In my country, the government once tried to make education free for everyone, but this didn't last long because the government couldn't bear the heavy burden due to economic problems.

Today, education has returned to how it was before. Those who have money can put their children in the best schools and send them to prestigious universities, but the poor can no longer afford higher education for their children due to the high costs and are limited to public and secondary education only.


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November 23, 2025, 07:41:05 PM
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At present, if education is taken only for the purpose of obtaining a certificate, then there is no real value in that education. Educational institutions make so many rules that a student has to pass the academic period by following those rules. Educational institutions are made in such a way that money plays the main role. Only those who are rich in the society get the opportunity to pursue higher education. Education has now become a form of business. Only obtaining a degree is the main purpose of higher education. But I do not think that this education is of much use in the workplace. If educational institutions provide real education, then students can move forward in all areas of life with their education.


With or without certifications we should value and embrace quality education.Yes education is an investment both personally and socially,it shows how valuable it produces returns in a lifetime.The benefits of education continues to be evident and beneficial throughout a person's life.Education is an investment because it requires resources now to make economic,social and personal benefits in the future.Education is an investment not only to individuals but to nations.
I agree with you. Education is an investment for individuals and even for nations. Indeed in today's digital age there are many ways to pursue knowledge, and we can easily learn new things without formal education. For me education isn't primarily about finding a job, but rather about equipping the nation's children with morals and ethics when dealing with the social environment.

In fact if we look deeper we'll find that in every advanced civilization, there are only two main pillars that are always prioritized education and health. In fact we could even say that education is one way to escape poverty. If the government in your country doesn't prioritize education as a primary project, we could say they are actually keeping their people in poverty. So while education doesn't guarantee a job, it remains crucial for a nation's progress.

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November 23, 2025, 07:45:39 PM
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It all depends on the quality of education you want.  Offcourse education cannot be streamlined to the fact of only getting a better job in the future, if that is the reason then I'm sure some academecians will not further considering their positions in life already.most people go to school and bag a decree but end up not using that certificate and degree they spent years in getting.  But the knowledge and series of skills they acquired in school work for them through out their lives time.
Education has allot of benefits which would also include; More enlightenment; widen your scope of knowledge; better communication skills; management skills amongst others.
The list of importance of education is numerous and cannot be over emphasised.

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Yep, you're correct.

I've heard many people are saying enter college if you want to learn, if you want to make money then go get a job. But, the one who said that have a job that have a correlation with the major, which mean the reason they can get that job could be due to their major.

I don't see anything wrong for people who go to college with a purpose to get a job, it's not a wrong thought because college/school are built to create a good employee.
I think the reason why people have this mindset about education is because of how getting a job is so difficult and they feel it is a waste of time to acquiire education. Education is very important and because of their are no jobs even after having sound education,  this doesn't mean people needs to hive up on education and just to think about making money. Education is not just about the certificates and qualifications you have, it is all about the knowledge and how sound you are. Even if their are no jobs, education is still the key and money is not everything.

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But has education ever been accessible? Back then only the elite was able to study.
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Since we are not in the ancient days where education can be seen as a commodity, people can now go to schools and acquire education because now, it has been seen as an intellectual right for everybody that want to get education after their elementary schools to seek for college education so they can be fit in the society. Education is the backbone of a society and the government knows this that is why their re so many establish universities and colleges for people to go and complete their educational level.

How deep do you wish to go? The whole idea that everyone gets the same education is a nice story, but in reality, it doesn't work like that. We have public & private schools, and it's hard to believe that the quality of education is the same in both. As always... limited money, old equipment, tired teachers.... and the list goes on and on. And where are the "special courses", you need to pay for that, or at least have connections.

I have seen that too many times.... It's less about talent or hard work, it's more about who can afford what. Of course, there are exceptions, but it hits one person in a million, more or less, it doesn't matter... in any case, it sounds like a lottery. And we saw too many movies about the winners, but where are all those people who didn't win? Smiley

 
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I think the reason why people have this mindset about education is because of how getting a job is so difficult and they feel it is a waste of time to acquiire education. Education is very important and because of their are no jobs even after having sound education,  this doesn't mean people needs to hive up on education and just to think about making money. Education is not just about the certificates and qualifications you have, it is all about the knowledge and how sound you are. Even if their are no jobs, education is still the key and money is not everything.
Education is important but not necessary to be successful. We can see the multitude of graduates every year, with all of them doing major courses how do we expect jobs to go round, the government are not making infrastructural progress in the country that will create chances for new employees, that is a reason some persons don't rate education like it used to in the past.

Education is now normal that majority are educated, but the benefits cannot only be for job seeking but mental awareness and able to relate to constructive ideas, that is a better reason for education.

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Education should not be done solely because one can get a better paying job, it is supposed to be make us knowledgeable and with that we should be making money.

Anyway, I guess we are passed the era of prestigious schools and universities, now people are not guaranteed a job solely because of their certificate but companies started preferring the candidates who are capable of completing the job that they are hired for.
I used to think that but when I was job hunting, I got to know how important the certificates are. Even top companies mostly prefer candidates who have completed their graduation and have a college degree. Without the degree, they will be looking for years of experience. If none of the company is ready to hire without the degree than how on earth are we supposed to get the required experience to join any of these companies in future? I feel like this is a loop and companies will always end up hiring people with required certifications.

It is easy to say that these certificates are just a piece of paper and companies do not really want this but once we get out in the real world or try to find a job is when we realize how difficult it is.

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Everything now is done with the purpose of making more money in the future. Are there people who go to school just simply wanting to learn? No. Most of the time, students consider the profit they will be making and the job they can get with the degrees they will get.

They are specific field study that we need to have passion for more than having money, such courses need to be study thoroughly without not considering what to have as money but what to give the field of study most especially health courses like medical scientist, pharmacy and also engineering courses, I think these courses are the type of that we need to have passion for, whenever you are about to study them what should come into your mindset should be humanity not money, how to tackle and save lives should always be the priority.


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