What causes rape

[Gozie51]

It is ripe if it can be proven. You can't go to a man's house and you dress seductively yet you can't stay to yourself and leave within a short time. But instead, you walk around showing yourself with seductive moves and joke around or play with the man physically and yet claim he forced himself on you. A man is a man and you don't expect a young man to react in such way when all he sees is the temptation you have brought to his face. He would probably think it is your style to invite him over for the dinner and you may not have the time to verbally withdraw the consent. The withdrawal may just be in your lips and you won't remember to voice it out.

You have a valid observation, some rape cases that we hear about ara caused by the victim, I'm not supporting rape of any kind but when a lady intentionally seduces a man in a private place and the man had his way with her it shouldn't be seen as only the fault of the man. I hear a lot of rape cases against athletes and celebrities, some of these women that acuse these very rich people of rape are because they want to get money off the rich guys. They will seduce the celebrities and in the influence of alcohol the celebrities will succumb by having their way with them. There is need for self control so that even when somebody tries to seduce you you can resist to avoid claims and court cases. People that rape innocent victims are pure evil and should be punished.

Yes the point is that most of the responses are all straight up biase that is not looking at some exceptions to rape cases  allegations. What happens when an adult woman gives consent and at the process she withdraws consent but then the deed was almost through? The circumstances are all fathomed in when it comes to rape cases. Rape cases have not been easy to prove in Nigerian context. What happens when the woman drugs the man and intentionally lays herself on the man yet claims to be raped? like @Kelward is analysing. Maybe it is different in the Nigerian system and perhaps region to region might be different.

[franky1]

What happens when an adult woman gives consent and at the process she withdraws consent but then the deed was almost through? The circumstances are all fathomed in when it comes to rape cases.

its not complicated
put it this way, (analogy) when 2 men agree to get into a boxing ring to fight/wrestle. this does not give them the right to fight to the death, at any stage you can tap out/throw in the towel and the fight ends even if the round bell hasnt rung, or is about to ring. you are not forced into carrying on until the end of the round

put it this way, (another analogy) when 2 shirtless men in a gym agree to arm wrestle, just because they are shirtless and holding hands does not give them the right to cup the others genitals

if you can understand the rules of 2 men engaging in physical contact should not presume they can do anything they want once in contact, if you can understand the rules that any person in the interaction can disengage and want to stop contact at any time.. then apply those rule to women too

basically what im saying is, learn the social etiquette of situations and what is right or wrong, learn the rules of engagement/interaction. and if one wants to stop/quit/end the interaction, you should stop

learn self control

[WIYO1]

Yes the point is that most of the responses are all straight up biase that is not looking at some exceptions to rape cases  allegations. What happens when an adult woman gives consent and at the process she withdraws consent but then the deed was almost through? The circumstances are all fathomed in when it comes to rape cases. Rape cases have not been easy to prove in Nigerian context. What happens when the woman drugs the man and intentionally lays herself on the man yet claims to be raped? like @Kelward is analysing. Maybe it is different in the Nigerian system and perhaps region to region might be different.

You discuss many subjects that generally do not receive much attention: I understand the point you are making about how it can be difficult to obtain consent with so many emotions involved, unexpected events taking place etc... but the most important fact about consent is that ANY time a person withdraws consent, the other person must stop everything, regardless of what has taken place before that point in time.

Men can also be accused or can unintentionally take advantage of women by being manipulated by women into situations that are false; as such, each situation needs to be fully investigated prior to reaching any conclusions about the situation. In addition, in many developing countries, such as Nigeria, other cultural practices combined with underdeveloped legal systems may prevent receiving a just conclusion in many of these situations.

[Tmoonz]

It is ripe if it can be proven. You can't go to a man's house and you dress seductively yet you can't stay to yourself and leave within a short time. But instead, you walk around showing yourself with seductive moves and joke around or play with the man physically and yet claim he forced himself on you. A man is a man and you don't expect a young man to react in such way when all he sees is the temptation you have brought to his face. He would probably think it is your style to invite him over for the dinner and you may not have the time to verbally withdraw the consent. The withdrawal may just be in your lips and you won't remember to voice it out.

You have to change this reasoning, my dear. Even if someone seduces and refuses to let you have sex with them, don't force yourself on them because it is also considered to be rape. The moment you have sex forcefully without their consent, it is rape, my dear, and that is what you come out here to justify. Hope you have not done something as such to anyone?

Rape is rape and there is no reason justifiable for indulging in such act, a spade should be called a spade. A man or a woman who lacks the self control shouldn't come out and give me any stupid reasons why he or she was found in such act, good enough that it is a punishable offense and anyone found doing that should face the law double, we don't have to do everything that comes in our mind especially the negative ones because that is where everything starts, to some persons they find it difficult to say no only to find themself in trouble.

[Dunamisx]

Rape is an act of wickedness and there should be no excuse for doing that, those found in this situation should be charges to face the wrath of law, because they lack the needed conscience and feelings of putting their own self into the same condition and see how it fells, as individuals, we also much watch the way we move and those we move around with, avoid anything that could bring our thoughts towards something related.

[Rockson1]

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Even if a girl is completely nude in front of you in a closed room, you have no right to do anything without consent.
 

You are very correct, i think it is only an indiscipline person that can think raping a girl or woman even if they are naked without them allowing or giving room for that, some.persons just have excuses why they mess up but I do not think that there is any for of excuse that will justify any rapist.
I know some women can be devislish but even as that, we have to be ourselves as men, the gender in question here are favoured more in things that has to do with rape, so we have to try as much as we can to avoid being roped into something that could ruined our person and we can do that by being in control of that in between our two legs to avoid going in for it, therefore am very in support of your statement.

[uchegod-21]

Some say indecent dressing pushes them to comit the wicked act. Then, what's the crime of children, infants, todlers that are being molested by grown adults, do those children look sexually attractive to an adult? Rape is just an act of wickedness conceived in the mind of an evil person who has no self control over his emotions.  He/she unleashes his desires on any helpless person around and believe he or she can go free. Rapists are wicked, they will never go for who they know is powerful, they always target the weak.

[Solosanz]

I can understand if indecent dressing could increase the chance of getting rape, but blaming women for having close male friends is very wrong. There's no limit to be friends with, if having male friends is the problem, then why not the males also make a distance when they feel they're not able to be friends with females?

I could argue about the clothes actually, since men have disgusting kinks like wear hijab, latex full body etc which technically have covered all the body part, yet they find it hot.

so get it through your incel psychopath minds.. even if a woman is flirty, even if a woman is wearing revealing clothes, even if a woman agree's to come back to your home, even if a women agree's to get into bed with you, if she does not enjoy the experience mid-session, or any time before, she can still say no at any point and make it stop.. if you continue and ignore her request, you are a RAPIST

That's true, it needs both agreement.

[BADecker]

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I could argue about the clothes actually, since men have disgusting kinks like wear hijab, latex full body etc which technically have covered all the body part, yet they find it hot.

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All that these guys need to do is learn and apply the secrets of Arab desert dress. Arabs have flowing robes that keep them cool when outside heat is like 120F degrees.

Besides, if the clothing is 'bulky' enough, they could keep the woman they are raping right inside, and nobody would know the difference.

[passwordnow]

Due to explicit adult content that are now very visible in social media, this creates the rapists. The worldly desire they think is fine due to what they watch plays in their minds that it's okay to do it. That's one of the biggest influence from these bad people and we shouldn't victim blame because these criminals will do everything to fulfill the urge of their flesh to do it.

[philipma1957]

This is a great thread.

It shows how the world is doomed due to different beliefs.

Og was very close to the correct answer.

[Frankolala]

It is ripe if it can be proven. You can't go to a man's house and you dress seductively yet you can't stay to yourself and leave within a short time. But instead, you walk around showing yourself with seductive moves and joke around or play with the man physically and yet claim he forced himself on you. A man is a man and you don't expect a young man to react in such way when all he sees is the temptation you have brought to his face. He would probably think it is your style to invite him over for the dinner and you may not have the time to verbally withdraw the consent. The withdrawal may just be in your lips and you won't remember to voice it out.

Really, where is your pride as a man. Do you want to say that if such person goes to a night club with strippers, he's gon rape them. Lack of self control makes a rapist vulnerable to rape his victim. A rapist is a rapist whether, you dress sexy or not, he will still plan to rape his victim. What about the ones that rape small children how will you defend them.

[Anthony Bill]

Hope you are not planning to test rape? If you involve yourself in rape in some countries you will be sentence by hanging or  sentence by death. I just want to remind you that rape is not something we should think from our mind. Bad company cause rape.

[bitwalhr]

Hope you are not planning to test rape? If you involve yourself in rape in some countries you will be sentence by hanging or  sentence by death. I just want to remind you that rape is not something we should think from our mind. Bad company cause rape.

Bad company is surely the biggest threat but still many other ways always needs to understand how society exist and want from us to go through never cross our limits peoples usually try to create argument which never helps them but still have good views from others.

Rape is crime and this surely can cause serious problems in many countries in our they always sent to death because its serious crime.

[Gozie51]

So many rape cases are underreported because of things like this. People will ask, "What did you go into a room with him to do?' or, "Why did you go on a date with him?" "Why did you dress like that?" and all those silly questions they use to blame the victim. Then there is the shame of letting someone else know that you have been raped and violated. Or the fact that the person who raped you is a popular and influential person that can easily crush you, your career and the case. There are a lot of reasons why the cases are not reported.

I guess this part of your response is beginning to understand where I'm coming from.

I have not said anywhere that it is good to rape someone because it is a forceful act out of the will of the victim .

I have not said indecent dressing or seduction should be the cause of being raped.

What idea I'm saying is that it is a difficult thing to prove in court because of the circumstances, just as you have mentioned part of them.

Rape is condemnable and a crime in all countries.

[Youngrebel]

Any one who perpetuates the act of rape is ot of pure heatlessness and wickedness in the highest form. So inhumane in their dealings that they derive pleasure in the suffering and pains of another person.  Even with the begging trim the victims they still go ahead to commit such atrocities because their conscience are dead and not working.
Do we talk about the do it even on minors? What is really the problem with the society now? Everything is just turning upside down. Nothing is in order anymore.  Lawlessness and lost of our societal values have led to all of these.
Another factor that majorly contribute to this is also poor home bringing from parents especially the lack of a good fatherhood figure in their life.

[Abdulzuruku01]

Well in this society of ours this days the cases of rapes are not longer News it's now an anthem in the faces of everyone now, there are a lot of debates on what actually can be the major causes of rape in our society today and looking at it we could say a lot of things are the causes, for the adults that are rape we have things like.
1. Indecent dressing
2. Too much mingling with the boys
3. Pressure
This few can be listed for the adults and as for the little ones Minor's. We could say that the pedophiles may either be.
1. Psychopath
2. Taking revenge
3. Destroying a future yet to come
This one is the worst of all in the rape section.
And all this happens because most of the people cought up in the act are still free out there living among us like someone who is clean of everything not knowing if given the opportunity will cause more harm than good.

Nowadays rape become so ramper and yet nothing much has been done to bring everlasting solution to it, and if we want to end it today, all hands must be on desk for this kind of problem to have everlasting solution. Government, religious leaders, parents and communities head needs to come together to help end the issue of rape in our societies.

Government role to play to fight against rape is to make any agencies that are to fight against illegals drugs active, they should try their best by arresting anyone that involves in selling out illegal drugs which made youth think out of box and perform rape.

Parents should always monitor their children and make sure they have idea of the kind of friends they keep, Communities leaders should always regulate any new faces in their societies, Religious leaders should always preach against taking of illegal drugs and side effects of rape to both genders.

[Borbb]

I agree as you said you just make a good point there I'm very sure in most cases what lead to rape can be an addict of sex or when someone is mentally ill, not just only that they're other ways this occurrence take place like those who abuse smoking and excessive taking of alcohol will trigger them to this negative act whenever they see a lady.


But sometimes it happens to some persons whenever they see a lady coming, always having this negative mindset of meeting her imagining how it will look taking off her dresses this might eventually lead to rapes, moreover it can happens because of seduction and short dresses.

[Rockstarguy]

~Snip

All that you have stated, I don't think they are the reason for rape. I think rape is a result of a poor mindset, indiscipline, and lack of self-control. If you don't have all these, you can still choose not to rape.

There are people who are very exposed to the opposite sex, but because of the discipline and self-control they possess, no matter the sexual urge they feel, it will never push them to rape. There is no excuse for rape, and it is a crime. Good parenting is very important to teach people discipline and self-control from a young age, so that one can resist sexual urges.

[NewRevelation]

It is ripe if it can be proven. You can't go to a man's house and you dress seductively yet you can't stay to yourself and leave within a short time. But instead, you walk around showing yourself with seductive moves and joke around or play with the man physically and yet claim he forced himself on you. A man is a man and you don't expect a young man to react in such way when all he sees is the temptation you have brought to his face. He would probably think it is your style to invite him over for the dinner and you may not have the time to verbally withdraw the consent. The withdrawal may just be in your lips and you won't remember to voice it out.

You have a valid observation, some rape cases that we hear about ara caused by the victim, I'm not supporting rape of any kind but when a lady intentionally seduces a man in a private place and the man had his way with her it shouldn't be seen as only the fault of the man. I hear a lot of rape cases against athletes and celebrities, some of these women that acuse these very rich people of rape are because they want to get money off the rich guys. They will seduce the celebrities and in the influence of alcohol the celebrities will succumb by having their way with them. There is need for self control so that even when somebody tries to seduce you you can resist to avoid claims and court cases. People that rape innocent victims are pure evil and should be punished.

Bullshit.
Even if a girl is completely nude in front of you in a closed room, you have no right to do anything without consent.
 

You have no right whatsoever to touch or have sex with a woman without her consent. Even though she was your girlfriend or wife, once she says no, you leave her alone, and that's it. What is sex even without consent or by force, it's totally nothing and unacceptable. And that's where on of the causes of rape comes in, from the side of the men, it is lack of integrity! A man with integrity wouldn't try that bulshit and nonsense because it will bring shame to him and his personality. I wonder how people who try that are able to walk the streets comfortable