[APPEAL] Rakebit.com - clarification on accusations and our next steps

[nutildah]

Personally I feel like if a site offers the bet, they should eat the loss. Don't look for some bs way outta paying the bet. Apparently the odds provider is the 1 raising the flag though. Either way, it feels shady as fuck and it's just a way for a casino to get out of paying the bet IMO.

I tried to present the issue as objectively as possible, but I am in agreement with this. They accepted the bet. If it wasn't a fixed match, or the odds provider wasn't giving incorrect odds, the bet should be paid in full, simple as that.

From what I gather, the "flag" is just the odds provider signaling to the sportsbook that this is a sharp bettor, do with that information what you will. The concept of "value betting" seems to have been invented as an excuse to confiscate sharp bettor winnings.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Also so it doesn't look like I'm siding Rakebit team on this, has anyone seen this scam accusation thread against jackpotter? link. It same case as that of Rakebit, where players were found to have abused certain casino terms and their wins were confisticated. They returned the players initial deposit too and referenced their terms and conditions without any proof of where the player had broken any.

So it made me wonder if this issue is not singular to just Rakebit, but casinos that uses a particular provider.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2026/03/19/UvdHgg.png

The accusation was made today. Give them time to respond. Rakebit.com's accusation was made last year, and if you look at most of the feedback left by the members. It's because Rakebit.com decided to ignore the accusation or at least not give a clear answer and just continued to use AI to spam around the forum. Worse still, they created a suspicious signature campaign that caught the attention of most people.

[Cryptock]

So it made me wonder if this issue is not singular to just Rakebit, but casinos that uses a particular provider.

Almost all casinos use software from providers. Providers alert the casino if they see any shady player behavior, and only then does the casino react.
The Jackpotter and Rakebit cases will be resolved, but it will take time. Providers must investigate the case and give explanation. They won't close the casinos until the matter is resolved. This has to happen in two ways.
Therefore, you shouldn't worry about this and unblock the signature campaign.

[JollyGood]

You need to address all the red feedback on your profile as a start. Most of the AI posting feedbacks are reasonable members, but what guarantees that you will refrain from the same activities? The community can be forgiving, but 1 mis step and you're toast, so you'd better be ready to commit to changing.

Trust is the key element, they need to address all of the negative tags and to be honest there is zero chance of getting them all removed. The way matter seem to be going, they will find it difficult having just one removed. Once the trust has been damaged, it would take a huge effort for members to trust again especially when there is no guarantee they will never make AI posts and they will never confiscate funds unfairly.

Hello bitcointalk,

We would like to apologize again for our previous behavior on the forum, which violated several rules. We have listened to your feedback and, as a result, have removed all AI related posts and resolved all outstanding cases. Our goal is to serve this community, and we hope to earn your trust back over time. We also hope you will consider updating our negative trust ratings in the future as we continue to improve. Thank you for your advice, we are listening.

Thanks,

Rakebit Team.

Where is the evidence you have resolved any cases?

[nutildah]

Therefore, you shouldn't worry about this and unblock the signature campaign.

... says one of the biggest account farming bullshitters of all time.

No, we don't need another sig campaign for another shitty casino using "value betting" as an excuse to confiscate player winnings. These are weak casinos that don't have the funds to pay out winners. In hindsight it was a giant red flag. The tide has turned against them.

[Cryptock]

Therefore, you shouldn't worry about this and unblock the signature campaign.

... says one of the biggest account farming bullshitters of all time.

No, we don't need another sig campaign for another shitty casino using "value betting" as an excuse to confiscate player winnings. These are weak casinos that don't have the funds to pay out winners. In hindsight it was a giant red flag. The tide has turned against them.

Speak for yourself. I, and I'm sure many red-tagged users on this forum, are very interested in launching a signature campaign that accepts negative trust accounts.

[nutildah]

Speak for yourself. I, and I'm sure many red-tagged users on this forum, are very interested in launching a signature campaign that accepts negative trust accounts.

We already know that. Its clear you will promote any bit of trash that comes your way. You're just another shitposter with a bought account, who never intended on actually writing anything worth reading. This is why your opinion means nothing.

[Cryptock]

Speak for yourself. I, and I'm sure many red-tagged users on this forum, are very interested in launching a signature campaign that accepts negative trust accounts.

We already know that. Its clear you will promote any bit of trash that comes your way. You're just another shitposter with a bought account, who never intended on actually writing anything worth reading. This is why your opinion means nothing.

This is another subjective opinion of yours. Of course, you have the right to express it on this forum, just as I do. Then let me consider your opinion as worthless as you consider mine.

[nutildah]

This is another subjective opinion of yours.

Its not subjective at all:

- you purchased your account
- you've been tagged for promoting what was very clearly a scam casino, even after being given a chance to stop
- despite your account being older than mine, you only managed to accrue 7 merits, which suggests you haven't managed to learn anything

Any casino that hires accounts like yours will only further damage their image. So don't spend your life waiting for a comeback. (I realize you are already managing some untagged accounts).

[Cryptock]

This is another subjective opinion of yours.

Its not subjective at all:

- you purchased your account
- you've been tagged for promoting what was very clearly a scam casino, even after being given a chance to stop
- despite your account being older than mine, you only managed to accrue 7 merits, which suggests you haven't managed to learn anything

Any casino that hires accounts like yours will only further damage their image. So don't spend your life waiting for a comeback. (I realize you are already managing some untagged accounts).

However, my account is still part of this community and therefore adds value in the form of visibility on the forum. Just because you consider this value different than accounts without a red tag doesn't mean it's less valuable to someone else - like the Rakebit team.

[nutildah]

Just because you consider this value different than accounts without a red tag doesn't mean it's less valuable to someone else - like the Rakebit team.

That's exactly what it means, which is why nobody will hire you. There are already too many shitposting accounts without red tags waiting in the wings for sig campaign spots. They will be hired first. This is why you have no chance.

[Cryptock]

Just because you consider this value different than accounts without a red tag doesn't mean it's less valuable to someone else - like the Rakebit team.

That's exactly what it means, which is why nobody will hire you. There are already too many shitposting accounts without red tags waiting in the wings for sig campaign spots. They will be hired first. This is why you have no chance.

You're very wrong. Paradoxically, thanks to you, I have a good chance of getting hired. If Rakebit launches a signature campaign, you'll be the first to red tag accounts that will join. Accounts without a red tag won't be apply (huge thanks to you here), and that's where I come in. 

[nutildah]

You're very wrong. Paradoxically, thanks to you, I have a good chance of getting hired. If Rakebit launches a signature campaign, you'll be the first to red tag accounts that will join. Accounts without a red tag won't be apply (huge thanks to you here), and that's where I come in. 

You're not in any campaign, and Rakebit isn't offering one. But feel free to keep deluding yourself.

[haircombint]

This is another subjective opinion of yours.

Its not subjective at all:

- you purchased your account
- you've been tagged for promoting what was very clearly a scam casino, even after being given a chance to stop

LMAO

I can't believe what I'm reading@!!!

Total projection here. The Nutella Man purchased his account, too (just read his trust feedback)

"nutildah is an alt account that has received over 30 red trust ratings and 18 flags, which indicates a pattern of problematic behavior. Frequent comments on other members' posts have reportedly disrupted discussions and spread inaccurate information. These actions are defamatory. A review of nutildah's previous posts provides additional evidence of misconduct. Such behavior does not align with the forum's standards and warrants a ban. Further details can be found at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=317618."

also, he himself has promoted what was very clearly a scam casino after being given a chance to stop. He used to be a betpanda shill. He stopped because they weren't paying him enough to shill. not because all the warnings we gave out that betpanda was a scam

what a loser

[nutildah]

also, he himself has promoted what was very clearly a scam casino after being given a chance to stop. He used to be a betpanda shill. He stopped because they weren't paying him enough to shill. not because all the warnings we gave out that betpanda was a scam

what a loser

You were almost on to something but then you had to go and mix lies with the truth. I was asked by the campaign manager to move to a different campaign, and that was 2 campaigns ago. Since you want to fixate on my window with BetPanda, yeah I was never comfortable with the idea of "value betting" but outside of this issue they seem to have a pretty good reputation. It is now a glaring issue, however, which is why I was the first DT to tag them over it.

And to bring things back on topic, I would consider removing support for a flag or negative trust from any casino account so long as they resolved the underlying issue. I only support such things when there is a clear pattern of behavior that goes against industry norms. Sometimes this applies to the player, as well.