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December 20, 2025, 09:00:44 PM
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I've always been interested in some posts/discussions that relate AI can help us in betting especially in sportsbetting because some of us even quite confidently say that AI predictions can be greater than our own analysis in terms of percentage. like some post This which is got me interested do some steps testing.

AI could help us to an extent in terms of predictions , but they cannot be always accurate as to what we could do for our own self, even though they could also be found useful in getting some information about sports and gambling, but giving the accurate and actual predictions over the particular circumstance to a bet in gambling could not be established, except we want to deceive ourselves.

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December 20, 2025, 09:07:27 PM
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Personally, I am not sure AI predictions can be a benchmark for every bet we make. I think AI has limited data, or information, and I don't think the predictions are very accurate. So, I think it should better to use personal analysis, which we can do in-depth. Cmiiw.

Furthermore, I think it is a different feeling, if we use personal analysis than relying on external analysis (using AI, or from other people), which means we might not feel the same excitement as using personal analysis that results in a win.

By the way, predictions are still predictions, which means there is a chance of winning, or losing. In the world of sports, many factors can influence a team, or individual, especially in soccer. Therefore, we need to gamble wisely, and be prepared to accept the consequences.

I only trust a prediction, if it comes from a relevant party. For example, if a tennis player states that he is not feeling well, then I think that can be used as a reference for the prediction. I deliberately compared it to tennis, because we cannot use such a more precise reference in soccer, as we know soccer is about teams.

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December 20, 2025, 09:10:09 PM
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No matter how much you analyze using AI from different tools it still won't be a benchmark --- even when the results are worse than we think making your own decisions is best in sports betting coupled with a strong feeling can determine your betting confidence.

I use AI only as a tool for analysis and some absent players, the rest is looking at h2h etc.
Sometimes I feel my own bets are better than AI.
using ai for analysis isn't really necessary to me because those informations are still on other sources on the Internet,it is better for me to just go straight into using rediction apps than using Ai. sometimes it is possible to give inaccurate analysis, I have always had the idea that ai can be used to get valuable informations when it comes to other things but sports betting isn't really one of them

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December 20, 2025, 09:16:17 PM
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From this I have concluded that in the end AI is still AI where it cannot be used as a benchmark for making decisions and can only be an auxiliary reference rather than a direct decision.

Although my personal analysis is also not very good because from 10 matches only 11 points (which should be if the perfect point means 30 points) but my personal analysis is slightly better than the predictions made by several AIs where there are only 5 and 7.5 points if I calculate with the format that superbru does.
So from this even though in the end AI becomes an important element for now but we should not make this too much as a benchmark because in the end in gambling especially in betting of course our own decisions determine our fate.

To be frankly speaking, the truth of the fact when it comes to gambling is that A.I is a tool that was developed and designed to assist us in research and making better decisions with the help of it's advanced technology. And as such what A.I does is give random possibilities of a possible outcome of an event, after making reference with it's previous performances. However, I have also got to understand that prompting is very important when you intend to use an A.I tool like chatGPT and the rest, but moreover, chatGPT and Gemini seems to be the most advanced A.I tool currently in the artificial industry.

So, in a nutshell, this is the type of prompt you need to give AI for it to come up with a match prediction with a high possibility. Despite the fact it's always a 50/50 chance, and that's what you should always bear in mind, because it is never a guaranteed outcome.


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December 20, 2025, 09:29:16 PM
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I have said it before and I will still say it again, using AI for predictions is actually waiting for it's opinion on a certain event while choosing the predictions the way you may want. AI does not give you exactly how the outcome maybe, but it does the dirty jobs of finding out the historical information, data analysis and many to fish out what may be best or possible outcome for you.

It's up to the player to decide from those data from AI, that's how it actually works.



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December 20, 2025, 09:30:19 PM
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Wow it seems that you are very curious about the performance of AI Grin, but that's good my friend at least here we can all see how AI works and come to the conclusion that in the end the decision is still in our hands, AI only provides references and not the “right” decision to produce victory.

Basically AI does help but not for things that lead to “right or wrong” decisions, meaning they can't give a definite decision, they just give an idea, nothing more than that.

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I do not believe Artificial Intelligence is able to accurately predict match outcomes.  They are more like an '8 ball' or a random generator and you can see this on the difference between Chat GPT, Google et cetera.  If they had accuracy predicting, I presume they had similar predictions.  Artificial Intelligence may talk to you like it is human, but this does not mean it actually thinks.  I have seen way too many errors and mistakes in its responses to ever take its answers seriously.
From the word itself, "prediction," it means that we can be right or wrong. Nobody should claim that they are always right because they can definitely be wrong. It is more about using AI technology, where it just relies on history, not the actual data. We are more knowledgeable than they are, as gambling is a concern because we know the current situation and keep ourselves updated.

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I do not believe Artificial Intelligence is able to accurately predict match outcomes.  They are more like an '8 ball' or a random generator and you can see this on the difference between Chat GPT, Google et cetera.  If they had accuracy predicting, I presume they had similar predictions.  Artificial Intelligence may talk to you like it is human, but this does not mean it actually thinks.  I have seen way too many errors and mistakes in its responses to ever take its answers seriously.
From the word itself, "prediction," it means that we can be right or wrong. Nobody should claim that they are always right because they can definitely be wrong. It is more about using AI technology, where it just relies on history, not the actual data. We are more knowledgeable than they are, as gambling is a concern because we know the current situation and keep ourselves updated.

I think what pushes us to use AI is a lack of confidence and trust in ourselves. Actually, we looked down on ourselves. In fact, if we think wisely, AI is programmed by humans. Why not trust our capabilities when we know how to predict as well?
Conscious processing of information which involves the our brain covers much aspect and involves empathy and observation of the environment. We know that system digitalized systems can only work within the patterns, and sometimes fail to detect a unique and new phenomenon. Developing the faith in strength of our internal minds liberates us of the chains of uncertainty that hamper self development. Common sense when applied independently makes us the ultimate determiner of whatever we undertake in life and the consequences.


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These predictions are about correct scores and not a dynamic prediction pattern we follow, I hardly predict scores. I base more on point spreads. AI is not a perfect prediction channel, not even near perfect actually. I cannot trust it's predictions, I record a better success rate when I do the prediction myself compared to using AI.

AI predicts strictly with performance data and results, but predicting as a person, beyond data and research, you'll need to apply some rational assessment based on knowing the teams involved, individual players and observations from actually watching them play in previous matches to form your decision in selecting some picks.

I don't believe in AI predictions because, in the first place, who even programmed it? Is it just a human? As long as a human is the one who programmed the AI, it means it can’t be fully trusted as a trader. The predictions the AI gives are still based on the data and logic inputted by humans, right?

Therefore, it's still better to perform our own analysis so we can make correct predictions based on what we see and read. It's more trustworthy because we are the ones actually analyzing our own trading activity.

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I have made use of AI before and honestly, the result I got after the match was really bad and I was really surprised with AI. I almost still got this bad result. I feel sorry for myself, and from that day I stopped relying on AI analysis.

If most of the data that AI uses is not always accurate, unless someone is lucky. In fact, it is clear for us to understand that gambling is all about luck, and for that reason there is nothing AI can really do about gambling. It will predict, and it will not be accurate.

The reason is that analysis alone can’t make a gambler win a bet because almost every day we are seeing surprise results in sports betting. And for that reason, it will be hard for AI to get accurate predictions.

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These predictions are about correct scores and not a dynamic prediction pattern we follow, I hardly predict scores. I base more on point spreads. AI is not a perfect prediction channel, not even near perfect actually. I cannot trust it's predictions, I record a better success rate when I do the prediction myself compared to using AI.

AI predicts strictly with performance data and results, but predicting as a person, beyond data and research, you'll need to apply some rational assessment based on knowing the teams involved, individual players and observations from actually watching them play in previous matches to form your decision in selecting some picks.

I don't believe in AI predictions because, in the first place, who even programmed it? Is it just a human? As long as a human is the one who programmed the AI, it means it can’t be fully trusted as a trader. The predictions the AI gives are still based on the data and logic inputted by humans, right?

Therefore, it's still better to perform our own analysis so we can make correct predictions based on what we see and read. It's more trustworthy because we are the ones actually analyzing our own trading activity.
I don't use AI and that's as simple as I say it, because even if I should decide to, I would still go through the stress of editing it because I know some of it would just be gibberish based on data input by the AI developers.
AI isn't fully developed to the stage where it can make real life predictions, although I am yet to see how it performs if used for Polymarket predictions markets.

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So from this even though in the end AI becomes an important element for now but we should not make this too much as a benchmark because in the end in gambling especially in betting of course our own decisions determine our fate.

It's been this way and will always be this way: in whatever niche you're in, your analysis is your final guide, backed by years of experience and insight. AI is reasonable but limited based on what is in its database, and the human mind's database is far greater than AI because human minds have cognitive and insight that only humans can develop, and an AI cannot grasp.

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I don't use AI and that's as simple as I say it, because even if I should decide to, I would still go through the stress of editing it because I know some of it would just be gibberish based on data input by the AI developers.
AI isn't fully developed to the stage where it can make real life predictions, although I am yet to see how it performs if used for Polymarket predictions markets.
I do not think you will edit what the AI gave you, the problem is that you can not win the betting sites, but if you use AI to make predictions, it will be similar or better than those predictions sites. The problem is just that people can not win the betting sites, the problem is not the prediction. An accurate prediction is not accurate at all when it comes to real life.

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December 20, 2025, 10:48:48 PM
Last edit: December 22, 2025, 06:04:46 PM by AmoreJaz
 #55

I don't use AI and that's as simple as I say it, because even if I should decide to, I would still go through the stress of editing it because I know some of it would just be gibberish based on data input by the AI developers.
AI isn't fully developed to the stage where it can make real life predictions, although I am yet to see how it performs if used for Polymarket predictions markets.
I do not think you will edit what the AI gave you, the problem is that you can not win the betting sites, but if you use AI to make predictions, it will be similar or better than those predictions sites. The problem is just that people can not win the betting sites, the problem is not the prediction. An accurate prediction is not accurate at all when it comes to real life.

It may assist you in finalizing your bet, but I don't think it will guarantee your winning. Because even if AI has a lot of database, still, there are angles that it can't account in the final outcome of the game. Just consider the last minute technique of the athletes or the hidden injuries. This is why you can't really have 100% assurance what AI can provide for your answer.
It may give you good insights but there are still blindspots that AI can't cover. And that is the reason why we can't guarantee winnings from the suggestions of AI.

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December 20, 2025, 10:51:49 PM
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I have made use of AI before and honestly, the result I got after the match was really bad and I was really surprised with AI. I almost still got this bad result. I feel sorry for myself, and from that day I stopped relying on AI analysis.

If most of the data that AI uses is not always accurate, unless someone is lucky. In fact, it is clear for us to understand that gambling is all about luck, and for that reason there is nothing AI can really do about gambling. It will predict, and it will not be accurate.

The reason is that analysis alone can’t make a gambler win a bet because almost every day we are seeing surprise results in sports betting. And for that reason, it will be hard for AI to get accurate predictions.
And also because the situation changes anytime. Injuries, team players' performance, and also because the situation changes anytime. Injuries, team players' performance, and the absence of star players may affect the outcome of the game. So even if the team has higher odds of winning, it's still not enough to say that it will definitely win.

If our prediction is wrong, these AIs could be wrong as well. The results are not just surprising. Only we can't predict it right. We can use AI to help analyze but not rely on it and follow its recommendations.

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As long as gambling is concern not even AI can supercede luck. If the luck isn't on our side even if we are to make use of different AI to predict the outcome of a bet it will still not be a win. The only thing AI will do is to guide us while doing our analysis but to think that the prediction given by AI is %100 sure , it is wrong. If AI is actually this powerful to predict the outcome of a bet perfectly then I don't think if casinos will ever be operating.
most cases luck remains the ultimate factor whether we make use of analysis or not...some people make use of Ai and when they win they think it is always because of their efforts to minimise losses but it is actually not, a lot of times people don't realize that they get lucky..betting involves the application of knowledge and analysis...Ai can be a powerful tool but it cannot always be relied on

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December 20, 2025, 11:50:23 PM
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I have said it before and I will still say it again, using AI for predictions is actually waiting for it's opinion on a certain event while choosing the predictions the way you may want. AI does not give you exactly how the outcome maybe, but it does the dirty jobs of finding out the historical information, data analysis and many to fish out what may be best or possible outcome for you.

It's up to the player to decide from those data from AI, that's how it actually works.

AI is like a prediction, it is still a prediction, nothing is accurate, once accurate maybe it is like a coincidence especially in the upcoming match not everyone can guess it unless there is match fixing.

AI can actually help it's just that it's to see from the previous history so that the benchmark of the analysis itself we determine in betting not relying on AI completely.

I will not use AI completely because there are still many shortcomings, about the data provided maybe it is very informative because it is faster than we look for ourselves.

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AI can help but it should not replace your own thinking. Most models are based on stats and past data but football is not played on spreadsheets. Injuries motivation and even weather still matter a lot.

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These predictions are about correct scores and not a dynamic prediction pattern we follow, I hardly predict scores. I base more on point spreads. AI is not a perfect prediction channel, not even near perfect actually. I cannot trust it's predictions, I record a better success rate when I do the prediction myself compared to using AI.

AI predicts strictly with performance data and results, but predicting as a person, beyond data and research, you'll need to apply some rational assessment based on knowing the teams involved, individual players and observations from actually watching them play in previous matches to form your decision in selecting some picks.

AI cannot predict football; in fact, no one can predict football scores accurately and frequently. I think the debate on what AI can do in sports betting should end. Anything predictions has to do with probabilities of winning or losing. If AI can predict accurately, it is no longer a prediction but a forseer. At the same time, sportsbooks will not make a profit in sports betting, and they will have to shut down.

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