How do DT come up with accepting toxic behavior?

[Satofan44]

Satofan44 has a good knowledge of bitcoin and can be a valuable member of the forum, but I don't like how he use the trust system and in my opinion, OP is somehow right.

Which part? DT is not supposed to be about moderating behavior, and neither are DT ratings supposed to be about accepting, encouraging or discouraging posting behaviors overall. If there were, there are thousand of ratings overdue on all kinds of people and almost all my ratings would automatically become valid. Perhaps with such a rule change, I could be promoted to the king of DT? DT0: SatoFan, that would be a nice experience.

Of course, as already mentioned by LFC_Bitcoin, the negative trusts given by Satofan44 don't really matter.

Therefore, yet another case closed? Or perhaps we are waiting for another user like God of Pajeets to expose themselves in yet another thread against me or the scammer Royse777 to come to another scammer's defense?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

BPIP needs a new badge, most complained about user in the last year?  

That would be quite funny, I wonder who’d be topping the list? Probably the most active scam busters and the AI detector guys

[SatoPrincess]

BPIP needs a new badge, most complained about user in the last year?  

Who knows, you could have been voted for antihero at the bitcointalk community awards next year but I believe that category was scrapped.

[Xiestar]

I don’t think toxic behaviour is any more likely to be carried out by DT members than by anybody else here. Shit people do shit things but in your personal situation, the negative trust you have received is pretty much worthless, it isn’t having an effect on your account so just ignore it.

He is clearly using the trust system improperly with his toxic behavior. He is like nullius with good knowledge but with a very bad behavior.

On his case, he know how to lick us on some DT that’s why he manage to manipulate the DT by splitting the decision unlike Nullius that doesn’t give a fck about others opinion.

DT or not I believe there should be a consequence to someone using the trust system improperly. I will understand if this comes from scammer or newbie. But he is claiming he is a very clever man yet failed to understand what he is doing is wrong.

BPIP needs a new badge, most complained about user in the last year?  

Who knows, you could have been voted for antihero at the bitcointalk community awards next year but I believe that category was scrapped.

He even gets 2 +trust feedback for being a jerk. Worthy of being an epic failed award rather than anti-hero. What are you smoking?

Of course, as already mentioned by LFC_Bitcoin, the negative trusts given by Satofan44 don't really matter.

Therefore, yet another case closed?

Yeah right, Gaslighting.


You sounds like, I don’t like this post “I will send fucking red trust”. This user argue with me  “I will send fucking red trust”. My opinion is correct yet being criticized “I will send fucking red trust”. my eyes hurt “I will send fucking red trust”.

You are using trust system as diary to track your menstrual cycle.

You are claiming someone shady and psychopath while you are the one demonstrating it same with DT that support this behavior. They think they are making a balance to the forum yet they are reinforcing psychopath behavior perhaps they might like this inside.

[Satofan44]

Yeah right, Gaslighting.


You sounds like, I don’t like this post “I will send fucking red trust”. This user argue with me  “I will send fucking red trust”. My opinion is correct yet being criticized “I will send fucking red trust”. my eyes hurt “I will send fucking red trust”.

You are using trust system as diary to track your menstrual cycle.

You are claiming someone shady and psychopath while you are the one demonstrating it same with DT that support this behavior. They think they are making a balance to the forum yet they are reinforcing psychopath behavior perhaps they might like this inside.

My dear, all that you are showing me with your behavior is that you've pretended to be an "unbiased" and "rational" observer while actually you've been trying to slowly farm up this account by participating in the reputation section. By tagging your account, even if my tags are not important here, I have put the spotlight on you and somewhat reduced your chances of success. Now you're desperately trying to retaliate at me since you, like me, have no real power here. Since you can't accept your helplessness, you are trying to hurt me in any way that you can.

Your anger won't accomplish anything, and my rating on you is not going anywhere. If you ever get a positive or neutral rating, I will refresh mine so it always stays as the most recent one. Maybe you can try some violence instead like that Ape Capitalist dude. Enjoy, shitposting farmer.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Xiestar]

Yeah right, Gaslighting.


You sounds like, I don’t like this post “I will send fucking red trust”. This user argue with me  “I will send fucking red trust”. My opinion is correct yet being criticized “I will send fucking red trust”. my eyes hurt “I will send fucking red trust”.

You are using trust system as diary to track your menstrual cycle.

You are claiming someone shady and psychopath while you are the one demonstrating it same with DT that support this behavior. They think they are making a balance to the forum yet they are reinforcing psychopath behavior perhaps they might like this inside.

My dear, all that you are showing me with your behavior is that you've pretended to be an "unbiased" and "rational" observer while actually you've been trying to slowly farm up this account by participating in the reputation section. By tagging your account, even if my tags are not important here, I have put the spotlight on you and somewhat reduced your chances of success. Now you're desperately trying to retaliate at me since you, like me, have no real power here. Since you can't accept your helplessness, you are trying to hurt me in any way that you can.

Your anger won't accomplish anything, and my rating on you is not going anywhere. If you ever get a positive or neutral rating, I will refresh mine so it always stays as the most recent one. Maybe you can try some violence instead like that Ape Capitalist dude. Enjoy, shitposting farmer.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Here you go again with your baseless accusations. You are good on this toxic behavior thinking that you are only correct.

I don’t intend to join on signature campaign or farm merit unlike you that currently on signature campaign.

I’m not reputation board poster until someone put a neutral feedback too on my account. At least to him he knows when to remove unnecessary feedback.

You can check again my post history on how I focus my posting here. Altcoin board is worthless board to discuss. So here I am discussing to psychopath like you. I will not even give you damn fuck if you don’t send me a negative feedback just for your mere delulu.

Stop talking that it’s all about the campaign while you are the one ironically doing that.

Your anger won't accomplish anything, and my rating on you is not going anywhere. If you ever get a positive or neutral rating, I will refresh mine so it always stays as the most recent one. Maybe you can try some violence instead like that Ape Capitalist dude. Enjoy, shitposting farmer.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I’m not angry. Lmfao.

I’m only trying to raise a concern that everyone is dodging to tackle about toxic behavior because other DT themselves behave the same way at some point. So you are just reinforcing each other to find support to what you are doing is morally correct.

This statement of yours is a sign that you can’t think logically. I’m not even interested on trust system or merit. As you can see I don’t use it because I don’t deal with anyone here unlike you that showing a pajeet attitude while being paid by signature campaign.

Each time a reply is +1 for you right? Hhampuz is very proud to you. Good boy.

[Free Market Capitalist]

See the other negative feedback comments posted by Satofan44 too.
As I already said Satofan44 has been very harsh when dealing with trust system and he has given many negative trusts without any proof.
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Of course, as already mentioned by LFC_Bitcoin, the negative trusts given by Satofan44 don't really matter.

For me, that's not the most relevant thing about how he's acting like an idiot on this issue. The most relevant thing is that if you put this:

This is what happens when people collectively let the DT system have many individuals in it who are not fit for it.
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This is what happens when people collectively let the DT system have many individuals in it who are not fit for it.

The results that relate to my behavior has shown that many users are not fit to be DT members or merit sources, but hey don't let that stop them. 

And when you add to that the fact that he doesn't have a custom trust list, you don't have to think too hard to come to the conclusion that his ego is so inflated that he thinks that basically the DT system should basically be him.

Satofan44 has a good knowledge of bitcoin and can be a valuable member of the forum,

Roger Ver also has a good knowledge of Bitcoin, which shows that having that knowledge and being a member of negative value to the community is perfectly compatible.

[Mia Chloe]

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This whole drama will never end at the very least in my opinion. DT is kinda messed up and most other DT members even if they don't see it fit just decide to ignore it hence some things you may consider manipulation we see in the system. I think this has become a question of if this forum supports the behaviour on ground or not.

Quality posts should not be a yastic to condone bad behaviour and I'll boldly say if every active technical poster was an asshole, the technical board wouldn't be as interesting to read through as it is today. By the way welcome to my trust list Free Market Capitalist...

[lovesmayfamilis]

After reading the thread about toxic behavior, I was immediately sure who OP was talking about. Satofan44 again, of course.

I also didn't understand his behavior at first, but afterward, you can see that the person often speaks to the point, but many people can't handle criticism because their own egos are ready to compare themselves to their opponents. Do those who react so strongly to criticism really live in some ideal utopian world where they're surrounded only by the sweetest, most adorable people? What do you do in life if your views don't align with others'? Knock out teeth? I doubt it, too, since there are laws and police there. Only those who understand that their opponent is only on the screen can boast of their strength online. Fight with knowledge and intelligence.

OP, stop being a "snowflake," acknowledge that people are different, and you can't force them to respect you if they don't see something secret and valuable in you.

Who knows, you could have been voted for antihero at the bitcointalk community awards next year but I believe that category was scrapped.

I also think Satofan44 stirred up a lot of people and tested their nerves, along with their pride, which religion teaches us to humble, so it would be great to bring this nomination back.

Otherwise, it's a time of celebration; don't let anyone ruin it for you. Read Shakespeare's "King Lear." Satofan is the jester who exposed everyone in that drama. The world will never be perfect .

[ABCbits]

After reading the thread about toxic behavior, I was immediately sure who OП was talking about. Satofan44 again, of course.

Using bitlist for quick search, at least it's 10th thread that talk about him[1]. I expect thread about him will be recurring topic, since some user really like to feed him.

[1] https://bitlist.co/search?content=Satofan44&board_id=24,129&only_topic_starter=true&limit=20&sort_by=date_desc

[Free Market Capitalist]

... since some user really like to feed him.

To feed the troll, you mean, yeah, for sure.

I also didn't understand his behavior at first, but afterward, you can see that the person often speaks to the point, but many people can't handle criticism because their own egos are ready to compare themselves to their opponents.

I think the opposite is true: he is the one with an inflated ego, and you have taken a liking to him for some reason. When I see a jerk who is a bully, and most of us know that he behaves that way because he won't have his plans dismantled à la Tyson, I'm not going to keep quiet.

Do you call this speaking to the point?

Yeah, keep farming those posts and accounts. I am sure that the AI tools are helping you.

If so, me calling him a moron it's not that I can't handle criticism, it's speaking even more to the point because what he says it's obviously false, not "criticism".

This guy is just like Ratimov aka Simmetrick, or many others who, no matter how much merit they earned or how much they know about Bitcoin, in the end, they proved to be a disgrace to the forum. And this guy has been showing signs of trouble for a long time.

[Satofan44]

Roger Ver also has a good knowledge of Bitcoin, which shows that having that knowledge and being a member of negative value to the community is perfectly compatible.

it's speaking even more to the point because what he says it's obviously false, not "criticism".

Sweet irony. With this you have proven to be a retard posting false information, Roger Ver does not even have 1% of my knowledge of Bitcoin and not even 0.01% of the knowledge of stwenhao.   You too fall for false messiahs, because you too are uneducated.

This guy is just like Ratimov aka Simmetrick, or many others who, no matter how much merit they earned or how much they know about Bitcoin, in the end, they proved to be a disgrace to the forum. And this guy has been showing signs of trouble for a long time.

No matter how many times you desperately try to frame me as a risk, I will never be one. Unlike many of you, I don't plan to farm my way into DT and become a biased and abusive member of it. With no particular goal in mind, there is no reason to be nice to anyone unless they have deserved it. The only positive trust rating that you have is incorrect, but you're just a hypocrite as many others.

I expect thread about him will be recurring topic, since some user really like to feed him.

People without a thick skin here should not be in any "positions of power". Will this bring forth any changes? I don't think so, but someone can easily compile a list of untrustworthy or unstable individuals based on these threads if they want to. You can start with the Ape Capitalist, who's violent and emotionally unstable and has no idea about free markets anyways.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think the opposite is true: he is the one with an inflated ego, and you have taken a liking to him for some reason.

Rudeness has nothing to do with the ego. Read a book for a change instead of shitposting to farm up this account.

Satofan is the jester who exposed everyone in that drama. The world will never be perfect .

Touche. Have we met before?   

[Free Market Capitalist]

Blah, blah, blah.

I don't have you on my ignore list, but with you it's the same as with BADecker, whom I don't have on my ignore list either, but I hardly ever read anything he says.

The thing is, you're a jerk and a coward who likes to be aggressive and insult people, and you can't beat me at being aggressive or insulting.

Clown.

[LoyceV]

This user deserves negative feedback because it promotes negativity instead of posting in a positive way.

Says who?

The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.

will make this user quiet

I've taken this quote slightly out of context. It sounds like you really don't like freedom of speech!

I’m not a DT, my negative trust doesn’t have any value

And yet, you opened this topic right after Satofan44 (who's not on DT) left you negative feedback. Don't you see the irony there?


For what it's worth: even though I don't agree with Satofan44's way of leaving negative feedback, many of the users he tagged were already on my ignore list. That includes OP. I don't approve of his methods but he's on to something.

For those who haven't seen it, here's a graphic image of how stupid the person who says this is:

Not trusting someone's judgement doesn't make him stupid. Satofan44 seems to be wasting his technical talent on flame wars on the internet. I don't see a point of more exclusions, but his list keeps growing:

Trust list for: Satofan44 (Trust: +2 / =4 / -0) (690 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2025-12-27_Sat_05.18h)
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Satofan44 Trusts these users' judgement:
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Satofan44 Distrusts these users' judgement:
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Satofan44's judgement is Trusted by:
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~Satofan44's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. NEW vapourminer (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 4423 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
2. babo (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (4436 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
3. ₿itcoin (Trust: +0 / =2 / -3) (56 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
4. alani123 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (720 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
5. EFS (Trust: +8 / =1 / -1) (DT1! (7) 1888 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
6. DrBeer (Trust: +3 / =1 / -1) (1661 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
7. robelneo (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (270 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
8. minairia3 (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (90 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
9. examplens (Trust: +8 / =5 / -0) (DT1! (22) 3269 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
10. yahoo62278 (Trust: +36 / =2 / -0) (4122 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
11. Ultegra134 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (976 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
12. NEW Betwrong (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1299 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
13. klarki (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (0) 4204 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
14. psycodad (Trust: neutral) (2174 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
15. Russlenat (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (573 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
16. aioc (Trust: neutral) (94 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
17. Kasabus (Trust: neutral) (96 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
18. viljy (Trust: neutral) (1432 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
19. NEW hosemary (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 6502 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
20. Don Pedro Dinero (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (2184 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
21. goldkingcoiner (Trust: neutral) (2738 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
22. FinneysTrueVision (Trust: neutral) (707 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
23. Bitcoin Smith (Trust: neutral) (587 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
24. NotATether (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (10) 9167 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
25. Charles-Tim (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 6112 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
26. NEW Free Market Capitalist (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 3008 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
27. Cricktor (Trust: neutral) (3308 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
28. Z-tight (Trust: neutral) (1243 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
29. God Of Thunder (Trust: +6 / =4 / -4) (DT1 (-2) 1385 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)
30. Removed memehunter (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (895 Merit earned) (Custom Trust list) (BPIP)

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

[alani123]

I've had disagreements with many of the people in this thread at certain times but we can all agree that Satofan is acting like a moron at least it seems.

The fact that he's accepted in a signature campaign while doing all that says a lot about the state of this forum.
Make everyone's life worse, act like an insufferable moron and still some signature campaign manager will get you paid for it.

[Satofan44]

For what it's worth: even though I don't agree with Satofan44's way of leaving negative feedback, many of the users he tagged were already on my ignore list. That includes OP. I don't approve of his methods but he's on to something.

I don't see a point of more exclusions, but his list keeps growing:

The issue is deeper too. Many of these are not acting on provable scammers and abusers, but they find the time to complain about my useless tags or to distrust me. Ironically, some of these people have used the argument in the past that someone has enough negative ratings and that this is the reason why they didn't leave more. Completely inconsistent and corrupt people.

Satofan44 seems to be wasting his technical talent on flame wars on the internet.

It is because you don't give me enough merits LauraV, so I am just sad and refuse to do more work.   This is a meme opportunity, but there aren't that many creative people here.

I've had disagreements with many of the people in this thread at certain times but we can all agree that Satofan is acting like a moron at least it seems.

The fact that he's accepted in a signature campaign while doing all that says a lot about the state of this forum.
Make everyone's life worse, act like an insufferable moron and still some signature campaign manager will get you paid for it.

For sure they should pay you, a misinformation spreading shitposter that has never contributed anything to Bitcoin in your life. That improves the state of the forum. You idiots just confirm with your behavior that you are shady and butthurt, instead of putting in some effort to at least make it less obvious.  

[LoyceV]

we can all agree that Satofan is acting like a moron at least it seems.

That's obvious But I love this freedom and it shouldn't be changed because some people think their (subjective!) feelings gives them any special rights.

The fact that he's accepted in a signature campaign

I don't see him in Hhampuz' spreadsheet. He's not the first one with that signature who's not listed.

Many of these are not acting on provable scammers and abusers, but they find the time to complain about my useless tags or to distrust me.

Trust exclusions require attention. You're drawing a lot of attention to yourself.

[examplens]

For what it's worth: even though I don't agree with Satofan44's way of leaving negative feedback, many of the users he tagged were already on my ignore list. That includes OP. I don't approve of his methods but he's on to something.

For those who haven't seen it, here's a graphic image of how stupid the person who says this is:

Not trusting someone's judgement doesn't make him stupid. Satofan44 seems to be wasting his technical talent on flame wars on the internet. I don't see a point of more exclusions, but his list keeps growing:

Isn't it a bit paradoxical that he is wrongly using the DT system to point out some things that he thinks are wrong?
Although he has been told several times, he continues to do the same thing, which means that he is not interested in someone's suggestion or opinion. At the same time, he probably expects that someone will be interested in what he has to say.

[alani123]

The fact that he's accepted in a signature campaign

I don't see him in Hhampuz' spreadsheet. He's not the first one with that signature who's not listed.

Huh. Imortant oversight from me. I wonder why anyone would wear a paid signature for that long while not getting paid.
At this point I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything from this guy.

[Hhampuz]

The fact that he's accepted in a signature campaign

I don't see him in Hhampuz' spreadsheet. He's not the first one with that signature who's not listed.

Huh. Imortant oversight from me. I wonder why anyone would wear a paid signature for that long while not getting paid.
At this point I guess I shouldn't be surprised by anything from this guy.

You'd be surprised how many users do this. I get notifications on telegram almost daily about some spammer/scammer or whatever being part of my campaign (they're not, just wearing the sig). I appreciate LoyceV for actually checking spreadsheets to confirm this at least, others.. not so much. This is the only reason why I always advocate for keeping open and transparent sheets, can't be arsed with all the drama, lol.