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December 29, 2025, 12:52:31 PM
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Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.

Maybe you're getting it wrong already, because people are not using bitcoin because of the person that is behind it, anyone could be anonymous and protect his privacy, all we are after is the consistency in bitcoin network and how it offers the privacy needed through na decentralized network, knowing who Satoshi is and seeing him changes nothing about the approach to bitcoin.

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December 29, 2025, 12:52:49 PM
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Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.
For now, I can say that Bitcoin has changed people's lives for the better, and investing in Bitcoin has brought significant change for anyone seeking financial freedom. Why are we afraid to persist when our involvement has been carefully considered, and haven't we already seen such a clear direction of change for everyone involved in investing?

I don't care how Bitcoin will perform in the future, because our job isn't to predict the future. But as long as Bitcoin can provide the concept of financial freedom, that will be a constant consideration for me in achieving it. You don't need to predict the future, but rather how you prepare for a better future.


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December 29, 2025, 01:04:13 PM
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Before we have CSW, and some random guy and now Eipstein. I guess all of those names that will try to drag satoshi into theirs will never prove anything at all.

None of them can prove that they're the real satoshi so it won't even matter at all whoever is the one that claims to be satoshi.

And let's ride to what you're thinking, I don't think that all of those institutions which have invested heavily will simply dump all they have by knowing satoshi is that guy.

 
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December 29, 2025, 01:28:08 PM
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The fact that Epstein is dead is enough for it not to cause anything if eventually he is the one that created bitcoin. I do not think a dead person will have any effect on bitcoin price. It will only mean that bitcoin will remain decentralized and that bitcoin creator will not have influence on bitcoin price unlike other coins.
He was dead, Satoshi Nakamoto is either alive or dead, we don't know.

OP possibly worried about if the founder of Bitcoin project, Satoshi Nakamoto is Epstein who has a very bad reputation, do you feel Bitcoin is good to hold. It's only my guess, and if OP actually worried like this, whether Epstein is alive or already dead, it does not change his concern.

I agree with you but it's only answer the OP question if his concern is about possible impact of Epstein reputation on Bitcoin project and Bitcoin holders.

Before we have CSW, and some random guy and now Eipstein. I guess all of those names that will try to drag satoshi into theirs will never prove anything at all.

None of them can prove that they're the real satoshi so it won't even matter at all whoever is the one that claims to be satoshi.

And let's ride to what you're thinking, I don't think that all of those institutions which have invested heavily will simply dump all they have by knowing satoshi is that guy.
Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto and it was proven already. Luckily, by adopting Bitcoin, using Bitcoin, owning it, we are all Satoshi Nakamotos.

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December 29, 2025, 01:28:42 PM
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Leave your reality behind for a while and dive into this world of mine, spare me a minute and think for a moment that this is true what will you do if this is the case?

Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.
First of all, let me say that I do not know who Epstein is, and secondly, if this man (who ever he is) happen or turn out to be satoshi nakamoto, the fact that he was able to build and launch bitcoin successfully, and have it managed until it succeeded and metamorphosed to the digital gold it is known as today, simply means that there is nothing to fret about.

I will continue to hold my bitcoins for sure, people like Trump and his vice, companies like Microstrategy won't be investing millions and billions of dollars in bitcoin if they are unsure of what bitcoin is and it's potentials - a man doesn't have to be perfect to build a perfect system.

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December 29, 2025, 01:48:15 PM
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2025 will end in about two days. Enjoy all the foolishness that is still considered intelligence in these two days, and when you step into January 1, 2026, you must leave all that behind and start 2026 wisely. If that's not enough, remember that in life, there is no such thing as stopping learning and changing.

Satoshi Nakamoto is a legend who has left a valuable legacy in the internet era.
Anyone can become anything, and I'm not surprised. At the very least, if Satoshi returns, he still has a discussion forum that is still active to this day.
I think what you have said is absolutely true, but such things always seem good for motivation, but in reality, very few people make an impact and many people give up even in what they do. Next year we will lose a lot of what we have done this year. No one knew that Bitcoin would remain like this until the end of this year, but now it is, and similarly, next year we do not know at what price Bitcoin will be, but we know that it will definitely go up, which will be even better. And people are still grateful to him because because of him many people are in a big position and we are still hoping for a lot of change and great things from the Bitcoin he has created, which we will see. He will have a lot. Even if he does not come to this farm, he can create another farm of his own, which he will have to work there for some time to run, and then that farm will also become famous like this farm.

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December 29, 2025, 02:07:55 PM
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No matter who satoshi is ,or what he represents. I would keep hold my bitcoin and I would never think of selling it because of satoshi identity. I am not holding bitcoin because of satoshi but because bitcoin has proven it's worth over the years and the freedom it offers. The worth of bitcoin has nothing to do with satoshi, bitcoin is decentralised in nature nothing satoshi has control over it and such his identity will make me to sell off my bitcoin.

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December 29, 2025, 02:12:18 PM
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First of all, let me say that I do not know who Epstein is, and secondly, if this man (who ever he is) happen or turn out to be satoshi nakamoto, the fact that he was able to build and launch bitcoin successfully, and have it managed until it succeeded and metamorphosed to the digital gold it is known as today, simply means that there is nothing to fret about.

I will continue to hold my bitcoins for sure, people like Trump and his vice, companies like Microstrategy won't be investing millions and billions of dollars in bitcoin if they are unsure of what bitcoin is and it's potentials - a man doesn't have to be perfect to build a perfect system.

Well, man, honestly speaking, I also don't know who Empstein is. But I have read some news about that person, and some sources say he was murdered by some unknow person, and the case is still unsolved, and some sources are saying that the case of his murder is linked to Trump, and this is called politics. Honestly, I do not take much interest in this case and am not interested in getting to know more about it.

Besides this, I can agree with you on the last words you wrote in your post. The personalities you mentioned are big players in the crypto market and have much potential to manipulate the crypto market easily, but the thing is that they are taking part in this to make Bitcoin more stronger by investing in it.

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Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto
Then, prove it.
Since then, I heard so many names claimed as Satoshi, but none of them proved as what they claim.

Bitcoin now doesn't matter who created it, even the creator doesn't have to do not unless someone dumps a big part of Bitcoin that makes a sudden move in the market.  But for now, stay focused on accumulating Bitcoin rather than believing another "WHAT IF".
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Leave your reality behind for a while and dive into this world of mine, spare me a minute and think for a moment that this is true what will you do if this is the case?

Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.

I would feel disgusted.

But it would not change anything about how Bitcoin works and
why it is becoming more expensive due to it's deflationary nature.

I think Epstein is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

You think someone like that would not have rugged us (which the markets would just soak up in weeks) by selling his massive fortunes of Bitcoin?
Even an entire government would not hesitate to take profit in their beloved fiat.

So if nobody has touched Satoshi Nakamoto's wallet by now,
we can assume politicians and criminals are not involved.


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December 29, 2025, 02:51:47 PM
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Satoshi Nakamoto does not own Bitcoin neither does he have full control over it, as he remains anonymous. Epstein might not have being the best man, but it does not affect Bitcoin if he happens to be Satoshi because Bitcoin remains decentralized and is not controlled by a central authority. Definitely, there would major changes if his Bitcoin was sold out which leaves more Bitcoin in circulation and thereby would reduce the value of Bitcoin but that would only make room for mass purchase and Bitcoin would soon go back to its high.

Bitcoin has gotten to the point that no matter what low it gets to, it is only making more  opportunities for a buy order as it has gained that trust by the public to do great numbers in the future. Nobody can change the future of the Bitcoin, it is forever green because as more Bitcoins are sold, more Bitcoins are being bought and it gives no room for second guessing.

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Leave your reality behind for a while and dive into this world of mine, spare me a minute and think for a moment that this is true what will you do if this is the case?
The question then is, what's the relevance of who satoshi is at the moment even if his real identity is brought to the generality of the public? As it stands, bitcoin is more popular than satoshi and no serious investor is particularly concerned about who's the real satoshi or who's not. Anyone can claim to be satoshi and it wouldn't matter at all, what will matter really is if the person shows any sign whatsoever that he's on the part of manipulating bitcoin in any way possible. It's at that point that investor will choose to opt out of Thier investment became whatever brings out the identity of satoshi and such discovery pose a thread to holding bitcoin, then that gives a direct sign that the end has come or is drawing near.

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Leave your reality behind for a while and dive into this world of mine, spare me a minute and think for a moment that this is true what will you do if this is the case?

Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.
Satoshi himself has said that Bitcoin is no longer under his sole control, meaning that it is now under the control of Bitcoin developers, holders, and miners. So even if someone is made a Satoshi, it shouldn't have any impact on the market. Moreover, if Epstein were to become Satoshi, he would have 1.1 million Bitcoins under his control and he would be able to dominate the market with only 1.1 million Bitcoins, so I don't think even if Satoshi went public, it would have a huge impact on the Bitcoin market. However, even if Satoshi is alive, he will no longer be public, and if he dies, there is no chance of him becoming public.

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Leave your reality behind for a while and dive into this world of mine, spare me a minute and think for a moment that this is true what will you do if this is the case?

Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto
Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin. 21 million Bitcoins have been created and will never increase by even a single cent. Whoever is behind the name Satoshi, I just want to say thank you. Unfortunately, Epstein may not be the truth about the desired reality.

Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Bitcoin will continue to exist as long as the internet exists. So, holding Bitcoin is still strong because this hand is not yet weak.

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Before we have CSW, and some random guy and now Eipstein. I guess all of those names that will try to drag satoshi into theirs will never prove anything at all.

None of them can prove that they're the real satoshi so it won't even matter at all whoever is the one that claims to be satoshi.

And let's ride to what you're thinking, I don't think that all of those institutions which have invested heavily will simply dump all they have by knowing satoshi is that guy.
Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto and it was proven already. Luckily, by adopting Bitcoin, using Bitcoin, owning it, we are all Satoshi Nakamotos.

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Yes, everyone knows that he's a fraud. What I'm trying to say that there's all of these what ifs and situational moments about an specific person to be satoshi.

And the latter part, that's giving everyone who's trying to claim that they're satoshi a pass but only the crazy ones continue with that.

So whether he's Eipstein or not, people will continue to hold bitcoin because it's already established.

 
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Bitcoin is no longer limited to Satoshi. It has spread worldwide and there are many large Bitcoin holders who hold huge amounts of Bitcoin. Since Satoshi's disappearance, there has not been a single withdrawal of Bitcoin from those marked with his name. Now if someone comes and says that he is Satoshi, he will have to withdraw any amount of Bitcoin from Satoshi's wallet to prove it or sign the air with his wallet. Although this is almost impossible, most people believe that Satoshi has no authority over Bitcoin and that Satoshi will never appear again. And if it is true, then it can be said that the entire Bitcoin ecosystem will collapse.

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I doubt that Satoshi's identity will negatively impact Bitcoin; it's become bigger than its creator  Grin
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For now, I can say that Bitcoin has changed people's lives for the better, and investing in Bitcoin has brought significant change for anyone seeking financial freedom. Why are we afraid to persist when our involvement has been carefully considered, and haven't we already seen such a clear direction of change for everyone involved in investing?

I don't care how Bitcoin will perform in the future, because our job isn't to predict the future. But as long as Bitcoin can provide the concept of financial freedom, that will be a constant consideration for me in achieving it. You don't need to predict the future, but rather how you prepare for a better future.

The biggest advantage of Bitcoin is that two people can exchange electronic cash instantly, with little fee and most importantly without any cuts. This feature is provided by Bitcoin and subsequently inherited by other cryptocurrencies. If you are in Asia and want to send an amount to person living in Africa then imagine the difficulties and cuts if Banking channel is used. This usage of Bitcoin has eliminated the role of Banks and those who are familiar with Bitcoin prefer this mode of cash transfer. Both parties don't need a bank account for transferring electronic cash. These are few freedoms which only Bitcoin has given to entire humanity.          

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So if you found out that the founder of Toyota had some skeleton in his cupboard before he passed on, you'll sell your vehicle and never drive a Toyota automobile again? You see how ridiculous that sounds. There are certain creations that transcends far beyond their creator or founder. So much so that you can hate the founder or creator, but you love and appreciate what they made, especially when their creation is not directly linked with whatever offence they are accused of.

However, i don't think Epstein is Satoshi, neither can it be proven otherwise, since he is dead.

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December 29, 2025, 03:35:25 PM
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Leave your reality behind for a while and dive into this world of mine, spare me a minute and think for a moment that this is true what will you do if this is the case?

Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.

But if Satoshi's identity is revealed, it doesn’t change Bitcoin from what it is; the only thing we know is who the founder of Bitcoin is, and Bitcoin still remains the same. I still wonder why people are so interested in knowing who Satoshi is because, to me, it is just unnecessary.

The truth is that people will always claim to be Satoshi without any form of proof. I don't take this seriously because it is very common how people come up with stories like this.

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