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December 30, 2025, 05:56:52 PM
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Leave your reality behind for a while and dive into this world of mine, spare me a minute and think for a moment that this is true what will you do if this is the case?

Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.

Well I don't know what made you think/ or come up with this question, but whatever the thing maybe I would say that it doesn't matter who the owner is. In all people in the world what makes you think that Epstein is Satoshi Nekamoto? Or did you get this suggestion from any source?
You know what, enough of this imaginations. As a matter of fact I don't care to know his real identity the most important thing is bitcoin is playing his role, this is what matters the most because his identity has been unreviewed for decade and most people are used to it so why being curious to know his real identity now? Well if you really want to find his real identity then you can continue with your research or your imagination while I continue making my HODL.

Totally agree the identity stuff is just gossip, and pretty weird gossip at that Bitcoin’s value isn’t in who made it, it’s in the code that’s been battle tested for 15 years, the fact Satoshi disappeared is a feature, not a bug Let’s keep the main thing the main thing

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December 30, 2025, 08:12:04 PM
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Totally agree the identity stuff is just gossip, and pretty weird gossip at that Bitcoin’s value isn’t in who made it, it’s in the code that’s been battle tested for 15 years, the fact Satoshi disappeared is a feature, not a bug Let’s keep the main thing the main thing

People with enough knowledge about Bitcoin and its history will understand the reason about Satoshi's anonymity, and they won't be looking for his real identity because they would understand that his anonymity has played a great role at making Bitcoin what it is today, because this makes Bitcoin truly decentralized since people know that the creator of the asset isn't around anymore, no one is there to make any changes to the network or the existing supply, so things are going to stay how they are forever, and this is a good thing for Bitcoin.

Those who are constantly looking for Satoshi's real identity, or those who are always spreading rumors about it and trying to connect his name with people or people trying to prove that they are Satoshi are only doing all that to get some attention and that's it. They know they can't find or prove anything, but they want to stay highlighted, and that's why they don't give up, and people around the industry pay them attention, which motivates them to push further.

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December 30, 2025, 08:29:40 PM
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Regardless of who Satoshi is, I will always chose to hold bitcoin. Its not the real identity of Satoshi that matters, but the value or quality of the asset we are going to hold, and bitcoin is the best asset so far that will give us the most profitable and brightest future ahead.

Nothing will change, I guess same with majority as well. Even if in reality Satoshi is Epstein, so what? We are not holding onto him, but we are holding his best asset named as bitcoin.

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December 30, 2025, 08:33:23 PM
 #84

Leave your reality behind for a while and dive into this world of mine, spare me a minute and think for a moment that this is true what will you do if this is the case?

Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute?

I just shrug my shoulder and think him creating Bitcoin, at least he had done some goods for the people.

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Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?

Well holding is not dependent on who make Bitcoin but rather what is the condition of the Bitcoin market.  Since government had already legalizing Bitcoin, I think who ever created Bitcoin is out of concern now.

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Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.

Bitcoin has established itself, and is also acknowledged by the government, so I think the creator is not the concern now.

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December 30, 2025, 09:15:58 PM
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How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.

It’s just wouldn’t matter who Satoshi Nakamoto might be at this point. The people that invest or hold Bitcoin today don’t do so be the creator varnished into thin air. Even with Satoshi Nakamoto not coming to the stage to say I am the person behind this creation and providing all the proofs there is, there is nothing stopping the persona from working on the sidelines and supporting the network by mining or running nodes and what needs be done. So why should the creators unmasking make any difference.

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December 30, 2025, 09:35:49 PM
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Do I need to sell it all just because of that reason? Certainly I won't go down to that level and just leave bitcoin for that reason alone.

Bitcoin is bitcoin, and everyone's dying to buy and hold bitcoin to the extent of taking a loan just to make it possible, so there's no way I would give up my bitcoin investment.

Still, even if he who he is, I would still be thankful to Satoshi for bringing bitcoin to the market and make us the most profitable just because of bitcoin.

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December 30, 2025, 09:45:12 PM
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Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.
Maybe some people don’t even know the reason why they are investing in bitcoin, or why they are in crypto space, because I don’t think identity will stop me from investing in bitcoin. Are you investing in bitcoin just because satoshi is anonymous, or you are investing in bitcoin just because of the purpose bitcoin is serving? No matter who satoshi is I don’t have any problem with that as long as bitcoin is serving its  purpose. Epstein is dead already, but even if he is alive, and he is the founder of bitcoin, if bitcoin is serving it’s purpose am good with that.

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People choose Bitcoin because it represents financial freedom, it turns people into their own banks and gives them full control over their assets. People don't choose Bitcoin just because its founder's name is Satoshi, or because he remains anonymous...
Based on recent conditions and the rapid adoption rate of Bitcoin after the last bull run, I think it will be wrong to say that people choose Bitcoin because it represents financial freedom or allows them to be their own banks, because whether we believe it or not, most people these days choose Bitcoin only because they want to make money from it, that's it, and you will only find a very small percentage of people who are into Bitcoin because of the features it has and the potential it has as a store of value or a payment method.

So there is a high chance that if rumors spread that the creator of Bitcoin, Satoshi Nakamoto, has revealed his identity and he is someone that most people don't really like, people might start selling their bitcoins with the fear that the market might crash because of this news and they will lose money, because as I mentioned earlier, most people aren't in bitcoin for its use cases, but they are in it because of the profits.

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Today at 11:31:07 AM
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Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Why not?
You will be shocked that some of your favorite CEOs, innovators, and celebrities even have worse secrets than Epstein. Their achievements will not be written off even after the discovery has been made.

Bitcoin is now bigger than the habits of the person who started it. Even if people get to find out the identity of Satoshi and also his habit, it will not affect their decision to invest in Bitcoin.

You literally read my mind. There are many "skeletons in the closet" of people we call outstanding. Some suffered from schizophrenia, yet it didn't stop them from creating music; others were incredibly rude because their last name was misspelled; the list of such examples goes on and on. But has humanity stopped using their creations or discoveries? Therefore, attributing or fantasizing about who Satoshi might have been won't change people's attitudes toward Bitcoin, which already exists and has achieved recognition.

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Today at 11:52:01 AM
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Regardless of who Satoshi is, I will always chose to hold bitcoin. Its not the real identity of Satoshi that matters, but the value or quality of the asset we are going to hold, and bitcoin is the best asset so far that will give us the most profitable and brightest future ahead.

Nothing will change, I guess same with majority as well. Even if in reality Satoshi is Epstein, so what? We are not holding onto him, but we are holding his best asset named as bitcoin.
let’s be honest a lot of things we use or we like were created by people that we don’t completely have aligning principles they are not always the best of characters and bitcoin should not be an exception

bitcoin reached where it is today because of what it can do not because it’s tied to someone’s name
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Today at 12:14:14 PM
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Regardless of who Satoshi is, I will always chose to hold bitcoin. Its not the real identity of Satoshi that matters, but the value or quality of the asset we are going to hold, and bitcoin is the best asset so far that will give us the most profitable and brightest future ahead.

Nothing will change, I guess same with majority as well. Even if in reality Satoshi is Epstein, so what? We are not holding onto him, but we are holding his best asset named as bitcoin.
let’s be honest a lot of things we use or we like were created by people that we don’t completely have aligning principles they are not always the best of characters and bitcoin should not be an exception

bitcoin reached where it is today because of what it can do not because it’s tied to someone’s name

Facts, remain that human focus on success more that the personality behind the success, it's that which benefits them most they care and Satoshi have given it out, which that human care most by creating a thing of value that is capable of lifting human standard of living. If one know the value of what Satoshi has created, knowing him in person before laying hold to benefit is like working on ignorant, u don't need to know him to continue grabbing the value of his initiative, today many make use of some mechanical and electrical device without knowing people behind the knowledge or development, to know person is not the value it's what the person has put in place that is changing and affecting human life positively that derive people towards it and motivated then to stand on it.

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Today at 01:07:43 PM
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Leave your reality behind for a while and dive into this world of mine, spare me a minute and think for a moment that this is true what will you do if this is the case?

Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.
You can guess anyone. It won't affect anyone because Bitcoin is already established on a solid foundation. And Bitcoin has become a global institution. It is not limited to any one country but rather, technically, this asset has become universal. If Satoshi Nakamoto actually appears among us, it won't matter. Do you think he will claim the Bitcoin that is spread all over the world as his own?

He is just a successful founder and has tried to turn his idea into reality and many people are benefiting from it. His name will be written for his creative contribution and people will remember and cherish him forever. Bitcoin will continue to move at its own pace as a store of value.

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How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.

There is no doubt in me at this time to continue holding bitcoin even if the price drops much further and I myself have experienced several cycles in the bitcoin journey after being involved in investment so hesitation to hold is not a big problem for me at this time.
Bitcoin always recovers even if we see sharp declines and bitcoin is also a much more proven hedge on its journey so holding bitcoin is a much better option.

There is no need to have a higher imagination about the future because what you need to do is to take the best part to change your view about the constantly discussed risk doubts because without the courage to take any risk you will continue to live in a comfort zone without any significant changes in life.

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Do I need to sell it all just because of that reason? Certainly I won't go down to that level and just leave bitcoin for that reason alone.

Bitcoin is bitcoin, and everyone's dying to buy and hold bitcoin to the extent of taking a loan just to make it possible, so there's no way I would give up my bitcoin investment.
As long you know the important of hodling BTC for long, it will be hard for you to sell base on what you hear concerning the founder of BTC. The first cryptocurrency is BTC and BTC is not two that will make you doubt if you are hodling original or fake BTC which is the value people have for BTC and nothing will change their minds not to hodl BTC in the bear run.

We all know that Satoshi Nakamoto is the founder of BTC and BTC is working for the purpose it was create. I don't think you will change your mind set towards selling off your BTC or continue hodling your BTC, because is a decentralized asset you can store your money for future purpose.


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Today at 01:52:40 PM
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Leave your reality behind for a while and dive into this world of mine, spare me a minute and think for a moment that this is true what will you do if this is the case?

Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto

How will you feel if this is the reality for a minute? Will you have the gut to keep holding or not?
Will this start the beginning of the end for Bitcoin or it doesn't even matter no more.
It might give Bitcoin a bad image if Epstein was Satoshi. Critics would use it to throw shade at Bitcoin, and that's the worst that can happen. Bitcoin has grown to a level that it is bigger than the creator. So whatever negativity or atrocities Epstein might have committed, it will have little or no effect on the growth of Bitcoin. And to answer your other question. Yes, I'll still be holding.

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bitcoin is just math and code at the end of the day, it doesnt matter if the creator was a saint or a villain because the system works the same for everyone, i am definitely holding too
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Today at 02:27:12 PM
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Whoever he is with his real name in this world I don't care, I care more about him Satoshi who opened the security of his own wealth with a decentralized currency, namely bitcoin, with which I found a way to live better and not depend on third parties, the concept of decentralization brought by bitcoin makes us understand what security can be secured by ourselves in a world that increasingly wants to be controlled by the capitalists and the global elite.

Whether it's Epstein, Hal Finney and other rumored names, it's clear that Satoshi doesn't want to reveal himself, so why do people keep asking who is Satishi?, never mind this story is often discussed.

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bitcoin is just math and code at the end of the day, it doesnt matter if the creator was a saint or a villain because the system works the same for everyone, i am definitely holding too
Agree, I am holding too and will hold until I reach my goal. It doesn't matter who Satoshi is and whether he reveals himself or not; I will act according to my targets. The creator won't live for thousands of years, but the creation will exist among the Bitcoin community.

Whether it's Epstein, Hal Finney and other rumored names, it's clear that Satoshi doesn't want to reveal himself, so why do people keep asking who is Satishi?, never mind this story is often discussed.
A few people ask from curiosity, and a few people ask from emotion. There were a lot of rumours about them being Satoshi, but at the end of the day they turned out to be false. So the community nowadays don't believe such claims and move forward for a stronger Bitcoin community. For me, I don't think Satoshi will reveal himself ever; maybe we will know about Satoshi after his death or will never know. But Bitcoin will continue; it's just not Satoshi's assets. Whoever holds Bitcoin in a non-custodial wallet means they are the owner of the Bitcoin. So I am going to hold until achieving my goal.

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Today at 03:20:40 PM
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A few people ask from curiosity, and a few people ask from emotion. There were a lot of rumours about them being Satoshi, but at the end of the day they turned out to be false. So the community nowadays don't believe such claims and move forward for a stronger Bitcoin community. For me, I don't think Satoshi will reveal himself ever; maybe we will know about Satoshi after his death or will never know. But Bitcoin will continue; it's just not Satoshi's assets. Whoever holds Bitcoin in a non-custodial wallet means they are the owner of the Bitcoin. So I am going to hold until achieving my goal.
Many years, people tried to find identity of Satoshi Nakamoto but failed and with all those years and attempts, I really believe that Satoshi Nakamoto actually succeeded in hiding his or their identity. Nobody can find the identity of Bitcoin founder in the future but if anyone are curious and want to have documents to read or use as resources for their own work in finding Satoshi Nakamoto, many topics to read.

I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread.

And a post from theymos.
Are all of the interviews in the trailer original? I got the feeling that several of them were interviews I saw many years ago, though I could be wrong.

My current feeling on Satoshi's identity is:
 - Sassaman is a very bad candidate. If this is their conclusion, then they totally failed to do proper research.
 - 50% chance it's someone nobody's ever heard of, and nobody will ever figure it out
 - 35% chance it's Hal Finney. (Over time, I've moved more probability into this category.)
 - 10% chance it's someone else in the Bitcoin-verse
 - 5% chance it's a group within the CIA

But I'm really not a fan of the whole "search for Satoshi" genre. Being anonymous, Satoshi is an excellent myth and source of inspiration, since we can't see much of his flawed humanity. Mythical-Satoshi is a humble man who, with a lot of persistence and skill, but not with a level of brilliance beyond the reach of us mortals, single-handedly created a clockwork device so powerful that it shook the world. And then, in an action which nobody in the traditional halls of power would ever take, he had the wisdom to walk away: a modern Cincinnatus. I like that myth very much, and I'd rather it not be tainted by association with an actual human.

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Today at 03:52:21 PM
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Actually, I don't really focus on who Satoshi is. And whoever Satoshi is, it won't make me give up the bitcoins I've collected for the long term. Because after all, I invested in bitcoin not because of who Satoshi is, but because of the bitcoin system itself and how everyone is starting to get involved in it. And greater adoption will continue to occur with each halving period. Its value will continue to rise (corrections in a bear market are normal) in the long term. So I think it's better to forget about who Satoshi is because no one knows who he is. And focus on what he has created, which is Bitcoin itself.   Smiley

 
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