War with Venezuela[status:won by USA]

[MainIbem]

Exactly. That is the dangerous precedent I was talking about. US regime is turning the world into jungle where anyone can make up any story about any other nation and then carry out whatever acts of aggression they like based on those lies.

BTW a direct military action by US is unlikely because that is against their plans and their doctrine. Their doctrine is a Nixon Doctrine kind of thing, aka proxy wars. They'll sell weapons to Taiwan to fight as the proxy for US (exactly as Ukraine is for Russia). They will never get involved themselves. That would defeat the purpose of all these acts of aggression.

Sometimes you make lots of sense but other times I really don't understand why you'll be so bias with your statement just because of your hatred for the current US government, it makes no sense. So you really want drugs to keep flowing into US and make all the youths who are the future of tomorrow in that region to turn into addicts, take a look at what's happening in Philadelphia and some part of Chicago and New York are you happy about it? You're always quick to react when it's about the US but you don't also consider the fault of the Venezuelan president. Anyways Say no to drugs (POTUS).

[Hispo]

Venezuelan here.

People celebrating in Caracas.
People afraid of posting anything on WhatsApp in favor of the USA, afraid of the regime and those who are left here.

[Raytheon]

People afraid of posting anything on WhatsApp in favor of the USA, afraid of the regime and those who are left here.

I saw some video about people celebrating on Twitter and didn't believe that it was real. Is Maduro a failure? Do Venezuelan people hate him that much?
Nowadays, I don't believe much in what media says. Back in the day, media also said Gaddafi was a dictator but turned out he treated his people so well. He's just "dictator" because his country has a lot of oil.

[pooya87]

Sometimes you make lots of sense but other times I really don't understand why you'll be so bias with your statement just because of your hatred for the current US government, it makes no sense. So you really want drugs to keep flowing into US and make all the youths who are the future of tomorrow in that region to turn into addicts, take a look at what's happening in Philadelphia and some part of Chicago and New York are you happy about it? You're always quick to react when it's about the US but you don't also consider the fault of the Venezuelan president. Anyways Say no to drugs (POTUS).

I have no hatred of the current US administration, I abhor the US regime as a whole from its inception when it was committing one of the biggest genocides in human history, slaughtering Americans (whom they now call "natives" aka "Indian Americans") peeling their skin off their heads while colonizing North America, all the way to what this regime has been doing in recent years supporting various terrorist groups like al-Qaeda, head of which POTUS received in the White House with open arms recently in broad daylight and without shame.

As for drugs, I've always said the US regime is an oppressive regime and its first victim is the American people. We've seen them run abhorrent experiments on them (eg. releasing viral agents in the population to see its effect), the situation with drugs is the same. CIA is where you should look into since it is the only entity that is handling almost all the global drug trafficking to make billions. From the Zombie drugs that is killing the youth in Americas all the way to opium their Taliban farmers are producing on our very own eastern borders and distribute with the help and supervision of CIA. That help is not only manufacturing and distribution/trafficking, it is also laundering money through American banks.

People afraid of posting anything on WhatsApp in favor of the USA, afraid of the regime and those who are left here.

I saw some video about people celebrating on Twitter and didn't believe that it was real. Is Maduro a failure? Do Venezuelan people hate him that much?
Nowadays, I don't believe much in what media says. Back in the day, media also said Gaddafi was a dictator but turned out he treated his people so well. He's just "dictator" because his country has a lot of oil.

The general vibe across South America is mostly anti-Imperialistic and majority of them are outraged about this intervention. And no offense to anyone but only an idiot would celebrate foreign intervention in their country...

[cryptotelegramgroups]

Trump is a big loser, I hope that turned to him and USA with big problems. Such things called a terrorist attack on Peaseful country like a venezuela

[WhoYouCantKill]

The terrorist attacks that the US regime carried out against Venezuela last night is setting a dangerous precedent. Next we may see China do the same thing to Taiwan and "capture" its president and kill all its government officials saying they were drug dealers so we killed them!

I don't think there is any evidence that anyone in Taiwan is shipping any drugs into China. Such an operation would likely trigger a military response from the US.

Exactly. That is the dangerous precedent I was talking about. US regime is turning the world into jungle where anyone can make up any story about any other nation and then carry out whatever acts of aggression they like based on those lies.

BTW a direct military action by US is unlikely because that is against their plans and their doctrine. Their doctrine is a Nixon Doctrine kind of thing, aka proxy wars. They'll sell weapons to Taiwan to fight as the proxy for US (exactly as Ukraine is for Russia). They will never get involved themselves. That would defeat the purpose of all these acts of aggression.

The real danger here isn’t the fact that countries that are power are using propagandas and false stories to kinda justify their aggression. I think the real problem here is that those global rules are constantly being broken on the process is gradually losing its value and other countries would no longer trust them to protect them from external threats and interference, but sort for other ways to protect themselves.

Another issue that’s worth noting here is Normalization. If/when these proxy wars becomes the order of the day, then conflicts would automatically feel inevitable and diplomacy is no longer primary. And rather than resorting to seeking after independent solutions, smaller countries rather feel safer to pick sides with much stronger nations.

[montaga]

The former bus driver has been charged with 3 conspiracy charges, one of them "Conspiracy to possess machineguns and destructive devices against the US" Did he bring his machineguns with him to new york so that they have jurisdiction?
Venezuela signed the Rome Statute, which established the International Criminal Court (ICC), in October 1998 and ratified it in June 2000, making it a party to the treaty. Will he be handed over as Venezuela is a signator?

[Lucius]

Venezuelan here.
People celebrating in Caracas.
People afraid of posting anything on WhatsApp in favor of the USA, afraid of the regime and those who are left here.

People may think they've gotten rid of one devil, but the one to come will be much worse than Maduro. One only has to look at the kind of "peace" the Americans brought to Iraq or Afghanistan or any other country where they invaded. As someone already wrote, who can still be happy when their country is occupied by a foreign power?

[fishhot]

Just like Putin with Ukraine, Trump is making up tall tales to legitimize a “special operation” aimed at removing another country's government in order to seize its wealth. Perhaps this will be better for the people of Venezuela. I hope there will be fewer civilian casualties than in Ukraine.
Given that organizations such as the UN and the ICC are no longer credible, each of the most powerful countries does as it pleases, except for Europe, which bows down to the US, China, and ultimately Russia, even though Russia supplies weapons on a very modest scale, in my opinion.

[Kasabus]

Venezuelan here.

People celebrating in Caracas.
People afraid of posting anything on WhatsApp in favor of the USA, afraid of the regime and those who are left here.

There’s really no need to speculate whether people are happy or not, as citizens have already shown how they feel, thanks.
I mean, who would actually be happy living under a dictator. Everyone wants freedom, and dictatorship always leads to a struggling country.

I honestly hope we don’t reach that point in our own country, especially if a president starts rigging elections and constantly targeting political opponents who are just speaking the truth. I don’t want any foreign power taking over, I just want our own people to step up and become the next leaders, with citizens doing their part to remove a corrupt administration.

I’m tired of the lies, and it’s obvious the country has been struggling for a long time now, investors are backing out because corruption is too high and nobody wants to take that risk anymore.


Anyway, what's next for venezuela?

[BADecker]

The US won so easily, with few troops, that the whole thing smells of an agreement setup. There's a chance that Maduro will get off light. Maybe Russia will even intervene in Venezuela now that Maduro is gone.

[montaga]

All thumbs up for the successful rescue.
Everyone happy (almost Russia not so much), the banks got the hands on some much needed silver, Trump got some relief  from the Epstein files, Nicolas happy will life out his days in Dubai with his share of the deal. More money in short time as he would make as president. But first is still some media blah blah to endure as they want to make some money too, selling papers and give newsreaders a job. What a wonderful world or is it a crazy one?

[Lida93]

Exactly. That is the dangerous precedent I was talking about. US regime is turning the world into jungle where anyone can make up any story about any other nation and then carry out whatever acts of aggression they like based on those lies.

BTW a direct military action by US is unlikely because that is against their plans and their doctrine. Their doctrine is a Nixon Doctrine kind of thing, aka proxy wars. They'll sell weapons to Taiwan to fight as the proxy for US (exactly as Ukraine is for Russia). They will never get involved themselves. That would defeat the purpose of all these acts of aggression.

The real danger here isn’t the fact that countries that are power are using propagandas and false stories to kinda justify their aggression. I think the real problem here is that those global rules are constantly being broken on the process is gradually losing its value and other countries would no longer trust them to protect them from external threats and interference, but sort for other ways to protect themselves.

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We now living in a world where each of the most powerful countries now wield power to the extend that they wish on the weak nations just with an excuse to do so, with no entity or the so-called organisation of a United Nations having the temerity to question their actions, because they actually sponsors their existence. It's a pleasant surprise that everywhere around the globe seems relatively quiet like nothing of international concern did actually happened in Venezuela. Was pondering if it would have being this quiet if the aggression on Venezuela and the kidnapping of its President was to be  carried out by some other country like Russia or China.

[Lamtel]

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I don't think there is any evidence that anyone in Taiwan is shipping any drugs into China. Such an operation would likely trigger a military response from the US.

The reason is not drugs, because according to the DEA, Venezuela is responsible for only 8% of the drugs that come to the US, the main producer is Colombia. Every war needs an excuse, and this one is definitely not about drugs, but about the huge oil reserves that the US will now control.

I just read in a news earlier this morning that the president of Venezuela has been arrested by US military as ordered by president Donald Trump and he will appear in New York City courtroom today. According to the news, he was allegedly charged to have a hand in the attack that claimed the life of about 32 Cubans. And he is also faced to stand a trail for drugs and weapons charges.

[Baseplate]

Exactly. That is the dangerous precedent I was talking about. US regime is turning the world into jungle where anyone can make up any story about any other nation and then carry out whatever acts of aggression they like based on those lies.

BTW a direct military action by US is unlikely because that is against their plans and their doctrine. Their doctrine is a Nixon Doctrine kind of thing, aka proxy wars. They'll sell weapons to Taiwan to fight as the proxy for US (exactly as Ukraine is for Russia). They will never get involved themselves. That would defeat the purpose of all these acts of aggression.

Sometimes you make lots of sense but other times I really don't understand why you'll be so bias with your statement just because of your hatred for the current US government, it makes no sense. So you really want drugs to keep flowing into US and make all the youths who are the future of tomorrow in that region to turn into addicts, take a look at what's happening in Philadelphia and some part of Chicago and New York are you happy about it? You're always quick to react when it's about the US but you don't also consider the fault of the Venezuelan president. Anyways Say no to drugs (POTUS).

If it was about drugs, then it would've made more sense to strike the cartels in Mexico, who border the US, instead of a country many miles down south. The cartels are the primary smugglers of fentanyl and methamphetamine.

Not saying that Maduro didn't have it coming, he's a narco-terrorist himself, simple as that, but he is the least of America's problem when it comes to the drug epidemic happening there.

[Hispo]

All thumbs up for the successful rescue.
Everyone happy (almost Russia not so much), the banks got the hands on some much needed silver, Trump got some relief  from the Epstein files, Nicolas happy will life out his days in Dubai with his share of the deal. More money in short time as he would make as president. But first is still some media blah blah to endure as they want to make some money too, selling papers and give newsreaders a job. What a wonderful world or is it a crazy one?

Honestly, I don't think the way Maduro reacts to what is going on is normal in any way, shape or form. He looks way too relaxed and okey with what is happening to him... Perhaps, he actually got a deal with the administration of the United States and he will manage to live the rest of his life comfortably as soon as people stop paying attention to him.

There is also a chance he was in shock and in misbelief of what is happening to him an does not know how to react.

[YADAYADA]

Congratulations to the honorable Pete Hegseth secretary of war on flawless planning and execution. I am sure the people of Venezuela who have not benefitted from this regime are happy with the efforts of the United States to give their country an opportunity to start the process of building a strong democracy. Perhaps President Trump and Sec Hegseth would consider parking a few aircraft carriers around some so called european democracies and African nations who have oppressed the voices of their peoples and trampled on their freedoms through oppressive policies taking their right to free speech ,rom nof opportunities, freedom of choice and so forth.

[MainIbem]

Congratulations to the honorable Pete Hegseth secretary of war on flawless planning and execution. I am sure the people of Venezuela who have not benefitted from this regime are happy with the efforts of the United States to give their country an opportunity to start the process of building a strong democracy. Perhaps President Trump and Sec Hegseth would consider parking a few aircraft carriers around some so called european democracies and African nations who have oppressed the voices of their peoples and trampled on their freedoms through oppressive policies taking their right to free speech ,rom nof opportunities, freedom of choice and so forth.

I think my country should be one those countries where the pesident should suffer similar situation as Maduro, over here there's nothing like free speech and democracy is gradually dying cause the current administration that's ruled by a drug lord who maneuvered his way into power is seriously trying to turn his administration into a one party system and is collaborating with the France government to steal from poor tax payers all in the name of tax reform policy, there's a particular terrorist apologist in my country called. Sheikh Gumi, that i really hope the US military should pick up like Maduro soon.

[WhoYouCantKill]

We now living in a world where each of the most powerful countries now wield power to the extend that they wish on the weak nations just with an excuse to do so, with no entity or the so-called organisation of a United Nations having the temerity to question their actions, because they actually sponsors their existence. It's a pleasant surprise that everywhere around the globe seems relatively quiet like nothing of international concern did actually happened in Venezuela. Was pondering if it would have being this quiet if the aggression on Venezuela and the kidnapping of its President was to be  carried out by some other country like Russia or China.

It’s just so funny how things have changed so quickly. If this same action was taken by some other nation, I’m pretty sure there wouldn’t be this level of calmness, but with the kind of influence that the US has, they can take actions that goes against global norms and regulations without being punished. And those who are meant to act as referees in such situations just stay quietly and do nothing, not because they don’t see what’s going on, but rather because they know within themselves who runs and funds the game.

[Rubuchi]

Venezuelan here.

People celebrating in Caracas.
People afraid of posting anything on WhatsApp in favor of the USA, afraid of the regime and those who are left here.

from the litttle I’ve studied about Maduro and how your countrymen have tried to remove him from power even during the previous election season but he always finds his way in connivance with people he put in power including the leaders of the main institutions have been sold off to his agenda thereby causing scandals during elections. I have also heard that he has been ruling the people of Venezuela with dictatorship and ruling the people by decree where he could escape with all his impositions, impunity and brutal decisions on his people. But I guess not everyone in the country can talk about it until he’s probably dislodged