“Anonymous casino” is a funny label, shouldn’t it be “anonymous gambler” instead

[Patikno]

Do you see this as pure marketing, or does “anonymous” actually matter to you?

As far as I know, anonymous casinos are KYC-free, meaning we don't have to reveal our identities, whether it is revealing our ID cards or our faces, when registering at their casino. So, I think that is what they mean, and maybe those words are easier for them to use as part of their marketing, but it seems to some people, the words are a bit strange or inappropriate. For me, it is not weird, and it is easily accepted, and understood in casinos that have those words, so if another casino uses it, then I automatically know what it means. By the way, I have account at casino labeled "anonymous casino", and so far they have been pretty consistent with their label, but sometimes I worry about whether they will be able to keep it or not, because regulations can change at any time, right?

[Asuspawer09]

I mean, what was that ahaha

Who's going to register to a anonymouse casino here, anyone?  Doesn't seem like a good marketing to me. For sure, we are going to prefer a casino that is more open on their own team, I mean, even on crypto project,s most of the time developers are showing their own identity just to show that they are a legitimate project that is not going to do anything. If the casino is anonymous ofcourse it is going to look a little sketchy to a lot of users since they could easily disappear anytime with your money, then you don't know anything about the casino team since they are anonymous or something.

Anonymous should be on the users, that is why I don't really agree with any KYC, and I don't use a casino platform that requires some kind of KYC.

[Bluedrem]

There are many gambling sites that do not make KYC mandatory. That is, you can gamble anonymously while keeping your identity hidden. But if the gambling site is anonymous and they make KYC mandatory for users, I don't think many gamblers will be attracted to them. Maybe they have some other goal behind gambling, they might steal users' information and use it for criminal activities or they might cheat users. So I think if the gambling site is anonymous, there is no need to make KYC mandatory for users.

[goldkingcoiner]

I keep seeing sites market themselves as an “anonymous casino”, but it feels like a weird flex. If the casino is “anonymous”, it usually just means we don’t know who’s behind it, while they can still know us anytime once KYC gets involved.

So shouldn’t it be “anonymous gambler” instead? Privacy should protect the player, not just hide the operator.

Do you see this as pure marketing, or does “anonymous” actually matter to you?

Maybe it means they will be anonymous once they run off with your money  

Jokes aside, a lot of people confuse privacy with anonymity:
Just because you are private does not mean you are anonymous.

And furthermore, just because you are anonymous does not mean you cannot be tracked.

We are all responsible for our own OPSEC. If you give it away with KYC then what's the point in worrying later?

[lionheart78]

An anonymous casino is a tag everyone who are engaged in cryptocurrency understands when presented.  I do not think there is a need to change it to anything, according to what we believe in.  It is clear as day when we read anonymous casino tends to no KYC casino where the platform don't require their players to undergo KYC procedure.

There are many gambling sites that do not make KYC mandatory. That is, you can gamble anonymously while keeping your identity hidden. But if the gambling site is anonymous and they make KYC mandatory for users, I don't think many gamblers will be attracted to them. Maybe they have some other goal behind gambling, they might steal users' information and use it for criminal activities or they might cheat users. So I think if the gambling site is anonymous, there is no need to make KYC mandatory for users.

Well,. I can say that if what you stated happens, then the casino that implements KYC and claims to be an anonymous casino is laughable.  I would run and never look back because it is obvious that the platform is lying to us.

[suzanne5223]

It's vice versa because we have a gambling platform that uses the anonymous casino phrase for marketing purpose and we have some (which 2UP.io is one of them)that provide their users with an anonymous service experience.
If it happens that the service wants to change in the anonymous aspect of the gambling platform gameplay, they always inform their users before anything kicks off.
Any gambling platform that just changes service terms and conditions without inform their users is not worth being trusted or used anymore.

Yeah you're right but I think the term anonymous casino as used by some casino's mean Non KYC Casino, which can also mean that the identity of their customers remains private, but then it's kinda tough to see casino's that offers such services, I'm not saying there's none but based on regulations of the government on these casino's some would be forced to demand for KYC when they discover fraudulent activity in a particular customers account, which is fair enough. Anyways it's true that casino's that change their TOS without giving notice to their customers shouldn't be trusted.

My own belief about casinos that should be categorized into the anonymous casino slot is casinos that are totally no KYC and also support the use of VPN (which is what 2UP.io is doing, and that exact reason i consider it to be an anonymous casino). So, it is not hard to see casinos that offer the services; it is just that they are limited in number due to possible pressure from game providers, and issues with the authority due to gamblers abuse.
This is why i always respect gambling platform that manage to provide No KYC gaming service for years.

[swogerino]

I keep seeing sites market themselves as an “anonymous casino”, but it feels like a weird flex. If the casino is “anonymous”, it usually just means we don’t know who’s behind it, while they can still know us anytime once KYC gets involved.

So shouldn’t it be “anonymous gambler” instead? Privacy should protect the player, not just hide the operator.

Do you see this as pure marketing, or does “anonymous” actually matter to you?

Well a lot of people would love some anonymity and we had the best example here at an old ancient casino here like directbet.eu which you could deposit and tell them the address of the payout if you won that bet and that was all. They did not know who you were, what you did in life or any particular detail about it so that meant true anonymity for me as long as anonymity goes, sure the address of Bitcoin only provides pseudo-anonymity yet that casino didn't know a single detail except the deposit address and your payout address, so no details at all. I am afraid no other casino nowadays matches that level of anonymity as it was back then, sure some tried to emulate it but soon fade into the dust. I still don't know the reason of their disappearance though as they were making good money with that business model.

[lovesmayfamilis]

It is use of language which is referring to the players. It is saying the casino operates on an anonymous basis, not taking logs or information of the users that register there. Same with the "no-KYC" and "privacy" tag, they are features the players there enjoy.

Most gamblers do not bother to check who the owners of a casinos are.

- Jay -

Can a player be anonymous to the casino itself? I'm sure the casino sees absolutely everything about the player, not counting their identity, of course, but their device, location, and system are all perfectly visible. But to the player, the casino positions itself as anonymous, possibly concealing its true location and jurisdiction. And yes, the more red flags you see from the casino itself, the less you should trust their promises. What matters to the player is the casino's integrity, not its shell, which supposedly conceals the player's activities.

[Yaunfitda]

I keep seeing sites market themselves as an “anonymous casino”, but it feels like a weird flex. If the casino is “anonymous”, it usually just means we don’t know who’s behind it, while they can still know us anytime once KYC gets involved.

So shouldn’t it be “anonymous gambler” instead? Privacy should protect the player, not just hide the operator.

Do you see this as pure marketing, or does “anonymous” actually matter to you?

Well a lot of people would love some anonymity and we had the best example here at an old ancient casino here like directbet.eu which you could deposit and tell them the address of the payout if you won that bet and that was all. They did not know who you were, what you did in life or any particular detail about it so that meant true anonymity for me as long as anonymity goes, sure the address of Bitcoin only provides pseudo-anonymity yet that casino didn't know a single detail except the deposit address and your payout address, so no details at all. I am afraid no other casino nowadays matches that level of anonymity as it was back then, sure some tried to emulate it but soon fade into the dust. I still don't know the reason of their disappearance though as they were making good money with that business model.

Yes, that is the thing, with crypto base online before, you just need a address to deposit from the casinos, and then your address to withdraw. And that is what we love before because we are truly anonymous and there's not much tracking on us by the casino itself as everything is like free for gamblers. But we all know that during 2017, everything has change. Most of the crypto regulations where introduce that time from exchanges to gambling platform. So we lost our anonymity and everyone will have to go mandatory KYC, but still some issues exists.

[un_rank]

Can a player be anonymous to the casino itself? I'm sure the casino sees absolutely everything about the player, not counting their identity, of course, but their device, location, and system are all perfectly visible.

I consider a no-KYC casino to be an anonymous one. They do not request anything beyond an email and password when signing up, will never ask any level of KYC and could even all VPN usage to make tracking even more difficult.
They could also not store logs of IP addresses deleting them after a short time to protect the user's privacy

- Jay -

[bitcoindusts]

Can a player be anonymous to the casino itself?

This depends on the casino whether they will ask for identity upon registration or ask KYC after registration.  If the casino don't ask anything, players can be anonymous.

I'm sure the casino sees absolutely everything about the player, not counting their identity, of course, but their device, location, and system are all perfectly visible. But to the player, the casino positions itself as anonymous, possibly concealing its true location and jurisdiction.

If the casino allow, this can be avoided by accessing the platform through a virtual machine, machine fingerprint spoofer, and VPN before the accessing the platform for the first time.  With the use of that, I think player will be totally anonymous.

[PrivacyG]

If the casino allow, this can be avoided by accessing the platform through a virtual machine, machine fingerprint spoofer, and VPN before the accessing the platform for the first time.  With the use of that, I think player will be totally anonymous.

It will not make you totally Anonymous because first of all you will have to enter the same website under the same credentials multiple times and if they do not allow you to enter from a Tor identity, VPNs will not make you Anonymous in any way.  In fact, most of the VPNs collect more information about you than you think.

I am assuming you are not using Casinos as disposable Gambling Services.  If every time you log in your machine offers a different identity, you will raise suspicion flags and I understand very well why.  Any business owner who would see a customer keep changing their appearance would find it dubious.

[freedomgo]

It will not make you totally Anonymous because first of all you will have to enter the same website under the same credentials multiple times and if they do not allow you to enter from a Tor identity, VPNs will not make you Anonymous in any way.  In fact, most of the VPNs collect more information about you than you think.

Some casinos do encourage using a VPN to improve privacy, but they never really promote full anonymity. At the end of the day, once you sign up, you still have to give them your information. If you actually read the TOS, you’ll clearly see KYC mentioned there. Even if you don’t read every single line, you already know how it works. You know who you’re dealing with, and you know that sooner or later, KYC is part of the deal.

[Furious 7]

For a play on words where it suggests that for casinos the players are anonymous it would be understandable but when it suggests that the casinos are anonymous then it obviously gets a little tricky and I would agree with what you are saying here.

The condition of the players should be important but when they are the owners or developers of the site that makes them anonymous then this is potentially more suspect. Even though this is still gambling, it is a business that we should at least know who is behind it even if it is just a profile.

But in this case reputation is important to me when dealing with casinos because when the casino has a good reputation even though it sounds still ambiguous then I don't think it's a problem to try it just maybe the risk is borne by each gambler because this is a choice that has been taken.

[promise444c5]

Who's going to register to a anonymouse casino here, anyone?  Doesn't seem like a good marketing to me.

I haven’t seen any casino so far using the phrase “anonymous casino”..maybe I’m just not being attentive, or not looking in the right direction. But from the way I understand it, I don’t think it means an anonymous casino in the literal sense. It refers more to “anonymous users” instead, which is simply a fancy way of saying No-KYC. The word anonymous is just catchy because most people don’t even really know what it means

Most gamblers who come across such platforms already understand what they are trying to imply.

If it were truly an anonymous casino in the direct sense, then it wouldn’t be advertising or marketing itself in the first place . Instead, it would be hidden, and you would need to know someone who knows someone, basically connections, to get access.

[danadc]

Seeing a casino like that would make me want to play there, but I'd wait to get several opinions about it. It might be a scam, but I would like casinos to take the initiative to be anonymous again, like they were before, without requiring so much KYC But it is something very interesting.

My turn off from such a casino will be if their ask me for KYC, I think that will be the biggest set back if their actually parade themselves as anonymous cryptocurrency casinos, what the hell will their be doing with KYC verification, who are they taking it to, this won't work at least their should stand by their world and not be one-sided.

You're right, there's a casino that offered some privacy, but what you said happened: they started asking for KYC with the excuse that they were asking for it randomly Of course, that wasn't true, When that happens, as a player, you get disillusioned because you feel cheated, and that's not the idea By using deception, they drive players away, and that's not what you want.

[Kelward]

Well it's just a tag so we can't take the meaning literally and now we need to look into the truth behind 100% anonymous or No KYC casino where you are still asked to complete KYC if they suspect of money launder or for other reasons. So we don't have many casinos who tag themselves as no KYC casinos are not 100% anonymous.

Anonymous casino should be the same thing as none KYC casino, it's just a tag like you said, the benefit of anonymity or none KYC should be for the gamblers to protect their identities. Is there really a 100% none KYC casinos, I don't think so, even the ones that tells you that they are not might have good reasons of their own to ask you to submit KYC especially when you win huge amount of money. A none KYC casino doesn't mean that they can not suddenly ask for KYC when they suspect any illegality on an account like money laundering.

[Satofan44]

Can a player be anonymous to the casino itself?

This depends on the casino whether they will ask for identity upon registration or ask KYC after registration.  If the casino don't ask anything, players can be anonymous.

Don't write this nonsense here, it is completely wrong. Just because you do not complete KYC somewhere that does not mean that you are anonymous. In fact, it does not even mean that you have any anonymity at all. There are numerous ways in which the casino could be tracking you and trying to determine your identity. You could also be one of the stupid people that doesn't even use a VPN all of the time, and therefore you are trivially de-anonymized by many different parties that have access to this data.

If the casino allow, this can be avoided by accessing the platform through a virtual machine, machine fingerprint spoofer, and VPN before the accessing the platform for the first time.  With the use of that, I think player will be totally anonymous.

You wrote up some random shit that you have read on the internet. None of those guarantee "total anonymity", and they can easily detect that you are accessing something from a virtual machine too. You do not know the basics of fingerprinting. Posting misinformation about these topics is extremely dangerous, no matter how many weak minded people want to absolve themselves of their responsibility when it comes to the damage that they cause. This can lead to lost funds or even direct danger to the people who may be overconfident in their anonymity based on some random junk that they have read from users like you.

Anonymous casino should be the same thing as none KYC casino, it's just a tag like you said, the benefit of anonymity or none KYC should be for the gamblers to protect their identities. Is there really a 100% none KYC casinos, I don't think so, even the ones that tells you that they are not might have good reasons of their own to ask you to submit KYC especially when you win huge amount of money. A none KYC casino doesn't mean that they can not suddenly ask for KYC when they suspect any illegality on an account like money laundering.

Wrong. Read other posts before you write this shit here. In the role of a service provider I can trivially de-anonymize you without KYC because you are stupid. Any no-KYC service can track you in ways that you can't even imagine, especially if you are using a smartphone.

[Mindyspace]

There are many gambling sites that do not make KYC mandatory. That is, you can gamble anonymously while keeping your identity hidden. But if the gambling site is anonymous and they make KYC mandatory for users, I don't think many gamblers will be attracted to them. Maybe they have some other goal behind gambling, they might steal users' information and use it for criminal activities or they might cheat users. So I think if the gambling site is anonymous, there is no need to make KYC mandatory for users.

I'm not sure if I agree with everything. Even casinos that claim to be anonymous end up having legal obligations, mainly to prevent fraud, money laundering, or multiple accounts. The problem isn't KYC itself, but when it only appears at the time of withdrawal. If it's clear from the beginning, the player can decide whether to accept it or not. B