“Anonymous casino” is a funny label, shouldn’t it be “anonymous gambler” instead

[noorman0]

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So shouldn’t it be “anonymous gambler” instead?

Yes, and the level of anonymity depends on the user's wallet preferences. I might encounter claims of operator anonymity in decentralized casinos, but even then, they're rare.

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Privacy should protect the player, not just hide the operator.

If the casino is centralized, it's more reasonable to simply offer privacy, meaning user data won't be disclosed. And even that's unlikely for a licensed casino or one that's part of a "responsible gambling" organization.

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Do you see this as pure marketing, or does “anonymous” actually matter to you?

It depends on who's the subject of anonymity, the operator or the user. What I often see with the buzzword "anonymous" is registration without KYC but having a policy page that enforces KYC on withdrawals or violations.

[nelson4lov]

I'm not sure I'll be playing at an anonymous casino. A business of that calibre doesn't have much to do with anonymity unless they plan to later scam their users and not be held accountable for it. And yes, you're right. What we do need is Anonymity for gamblers. I think it's one of the most +EV thing a casino or a bookmaker can do for their users right nowin the industry.

Anonymous Gambler for the win.

[Cantsay]

Do you see this as pure marketing, or does “anonymous” actually matter to you?

It’s simply just a marketing strategy. The word “anonymous” has since lost its credibility in the gaming space as long as that gambling site isn’t decentralized then it shouldn’t even consider using anonymous unless there’s a clause in the ToS that clearly states that they will never demand for kyc.

Even those so called “no kyc” gambling site that clearly write it in the front of their page but when you take a closer look at their ToS you’ll see that they also have something about them having the right to demand their users to submit kyc anytime they like, this whole thing just proves that the whole “anonymous” thing is merely a marketing strategy and nothing more.

[Odogwu-Blockchain]

Betpanda, Casinopunkz and a few other casinos promote themselves as anonymous casinos on this forum. From their ANN title, you can always see the 'anonymous' added as part of their features.

Just seeing this now, thanks for pointing it out.

I don't know what it means to be anonymous but I am thinking maybe they talking about KYC free casino, as the key features of many casino out there too. Actually, nobody loves casino that requires for KYC before operations, and now the newest features that attract more customers are the no KYC casino platforms.

[salad daging]

Do you see this as pure marketing, or does “anonymous” actually matter to you?

Casinos call it anonymous because it's part of their marketing to their users, whereas for me, anonymity is about not knowing who you are and not having to share data for KYC.

Betpanda, Casinopunkz and a few other casinos promote themselves as anonymous casinos on this forum. From their ANN title, you can always see the 'anonymous' added as part of their features.

With the word “anonymous” they are marketing not to KYC obviously the casino is working on this even though in the ToS they say they can ask at any time about user documents.

[Orpichukwu]

Betpanda, Casinopunkz and a few other casinos promote themselves as anonymous casinos on this forum. From their ANN title, you can always see the 'anonymous' added as part of their features.

Just seeing this now, thanks for pointing it out.

I don't know what it means to be anonymous but I am thinking maybe they talking about KYC free casino, as the key features of many casino out there too. Actually, nobody loves casino that requires for KYC before operations, and now the newest features that attract more customers are the no KYC casino platforms.

KYC-free might be what they are promoting, as all of us are already suspecting, but most of these casinos are not entirely KYC-free; they just don't ask for KYC the first time you use them, but they always have the right to ask for it in the future if need makes them not to be completely what they say they are.

Unless they remove the right to ask for KYC from their TOS, only then can most of us believe they are entirely free, but two big casinos like the ones I mentioned above won't find it easy to go that line since they have their license to protect and regulatory compliance to follow.

[suzanne5223]

It's vice versa because we have a gambling platform that uses the anonymous casino phrase for marketing purpose and we have some (which 2UP.io is one of them)that provide their users with an anonymous service experience.
If it happens that the service wants to change in the anonymous aspect of the gambling platform gameplay, they always inform their users before anything kicks off.
Any gambling platform that just changes service terms and conditions without inform their users is not worth being trusted or used anymore.

[MainIbem]

It's vice versa because we have a gambling platform that uses the anonymous casino phrase for marketing purpose and we have some (which 2UP.io is one of them)that provide their users with an anonymous service experience.
If it happens that the service wants to change in the anonymous aspect of the gambling platform gameplay, they always inform their users before anything kicks off.
Any gambling platform that just changes service terms and conditions without inform their users is not worth being trusted or used anymore.

Yeah you're right but I think the term anonymous casino as used by some casino's mean Non KYC Casino, which can also mean that the identity of their customers remains private, but then it's kinda tough to see casino's that offers such services, I'm not saying there's none but based on regulations of the government on these casino's some would be forced to demand for KYC when they discover fraudulent activity in a particular customers account, which is fair enough. Anyways it's true that casino's that change their TOS without giving notice to their customers shouldn't be trusted.

[stadus]

Advertising as anonymous doesn’t automatically make a casino shady.
For most gamblers, it actually looks like a cool marketing angle. You can see that it’s not only Punkz that used this kind of wording in their ads.

I'm on your side bros @stadus, I addressed my post to bros @freedomgo & bros @PrivacyG, because I think we are discussing useless things about the 'anonymous' word. We know that no marketer wants to lose money from the advertisements they create, they will create a good image & provide good offers to their potential users or users. This is all just a play on words, nothing to discuss, let alone debate.

I think this is still relevant in some way. If a newbie comes across this topic, at least they’ll have a better idea of what “anonymous” actually means, and they won’t expect something that’s truly 100% anonymous.

In the very competitive crypto gambling space, companies will naturally use marketing that catches players’ attention. As long as it’s not violating the law or something regulators would penalize them for, they’ll do it, even if it looks a bit misleading at first glance.

[Pi-network314159]

I keep seeing sites market themselves as an “anonymous casino”, but it feels like a weird flex. If the casino is “anonymous”, it usually just means we don’t know who’s behind it, while they can still know us anytime once KYC gets involved.

I just wonder why casino will be anonymous and expect gamblers to submit their KYC document, isn't that theft? To me there is no point in submitting KYC documents to an anonymous gambling site, because that will be a high level of risk. They can steal your information and do whatever that pleases them or may even sell it to others. There is no point in using such casino. Or better still the casino should just allow people to register in there site without KYC to also maintain anonymous gambling site and anonymous gamblers. Rather the opposite which makes it not Fair.

So shouldn’t it be “anonymous gambler” instead? Privacy should protect the player, not just hide the operator.

I think so. That is exactly what it should be.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I keep seeing sites market themselves as an “anonymous casino”, but it feels like a weird flex. If the casino is “anonymous”, it usually just means we don’t know who’s behind it, while they can still know us anytime once KYC gets involved.

So shouldn’t it be “anonymous gambler” instead? Privacy should protect the player, not just hide the operator.

Do you see this as pure marketing, or does “anonymous” actually matter to you?

First, let me begin by saying that "anonymous" does not matter to me at all, and this is because casinos can use what ever they feel gamblers prefer and want to hear more to promote/advertise themselves so they could gain attention and attract gamblers/clients..

And talking about casinos referring to their self as "anonymous casino", well, I honestly don't see any thing wrong with this as I think it still means what they called it.
A casino where users are completely anonymous is an anonymous casino because it promotes/supports users anonymity, they make their gamblers anonymous so it's an anonymous casino, the term "anonymous gamblers" makes no sense to me, you can refer to yourself as anonymous gambler if you are the type that won't accept to give your ID to any casinos in the name of account verification, that is, you gambler without the casino  knowing who you, you prefer to yourself as anonymous gambler, while the casino that provide a platform for anonymous gambling can also refer to their self as anonymous casino..

[mrust_mobile]

You have a point but i still think it is a step in the right direction and to be honest as long as they don’t ask kyc, i don’t care who the owner is. Don’t tell me you know the owners of every casino you played at. Most of the time the owners hide their identity anyway. If the casino isn’t scamming anybody and asking no kyc, that’s great. These should be the main features we should be looking for in a casino. Let’s say you were the owner of a casino for a minute, would you make your identity public? I know I wouldn’t.

[ZeroVinsonN]

I don't think I've seen any casino directly advertising themselves as being anonymous, I mean who would want to gamble with them if they can even be held accountable if something goes wrong anywhere along the way, that kind of advertising wouldn't do them any good at all, it would make more sense if they are sat that their users are anonymous which would imply that there is no KYC requirements which means alot of user privacy, so yeah, I think that's what that anonymous tag is about and not really the casino themselves say they are anonymous.

[davis196]

I keep seeing sites market themselves as an “anonymous casino”, but it feels like a weird flex. If the casino is “anonymous”, it usually just means we don’t know who’s behind it, while they can still know us anytime once KYC gets involved.

So shouldn’t it be “anonymous gambler” instead? Privacy should protect the player, not just hide the operator.

Do you see this as pure marketing, or does “anonymous” actually matter to you?

Can you give us any examples of crypto casinos being recently advertised as "anonymous"? I don't know about such crypto casinos.
A truly anonymous non-KYC casino should be hosted on a .onion website and be available on the darkweb only(and this still doesn't guarantee 100% privacy). I wonder who is going to trust such casino, since the possibility for the casino owner to run away with the crypto and scam everyone is extremely high. Gamblers should be anonymous, but we live in the KYC era. How do you plan to become an anonymous gambler, since all casinos and sportsbooks require KYC?

[Die_empty]

I have yet to encounter a casino that advertises itself as "anonymous" because that it will make no sense at all.

Like you said, labeling yourself as "anonymous" means that your identity is hidden; or no one knows any information about you. Again, that will defeat the purpose of a casino when it advertises itself as anonymous. Perhaps it is indeed a marketing ploy to attract users to visit their website and increase traffic.

In conclusion, the idea of marketing yourself as "anonymous" simply does not work as it is incompatible with one another. Obviously, anonymity refers to its users who are not obliged to submit any KYC documents but be careful with these kinds of websites.

Anonymous casino tags by casinos are mainly for promotion. Anonymous casinos don't exist because almost all casinos need to operate under a license. They would have to submit several information to regulators before they would be permitted to operate. They just use these names to convince gamblers that their personal information is kept secret or cannot be revealed to the public. But this is not the case because there can be security breaches or even the sale of customers' data. In my view, there are no anonymous casinos, I also stand to be corrected.

[7juju]

If the casino is advertising themselves as anonymous casino it doesn't mean that the operators are the ones that are being anonymous, it's just a way of telling you that the people who gambles there are the ones that will stay anonymous. Even if they advertised themselves as anonymous gamblers or anonymous casino I see it as the same thing. You and I know that the operators of casinos can't be anonymous. Even if they are to us the gamblers, they can't be anonymous to the government that issues them licence of operations. How many of gamblers will comfortable gamble in a casino we don't see their registration number and certificate?

[VashaUdacha777]

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I trust well-known and reputable casino websites much more. An anonymous casino sounds a bit scary to me. I mean, if I honestly win a large amount of money in an anonymous casino and they refuse to pay out my winnings, who am I supposed to complain to if the casino has an anonymous legal address? That’s why I believe a casino cannot be anonymous by definition. Only the player can be anonymous.

[viljy]

This is probably more of a linguistic question than a matter of principle. The fundamental question is, should an anonymous casino require identification? If it does require it (even if in exceptional cases), and the gambler ceases to be anonymous, then the casino also cannot declare the anonymity of its customers.

As for the anonymity of the owners, this craze for "confidentiality", the "anonymity" of the final beneficiaries (with the help of all sorts of "pads" - trust funds, firms, organizations) has become very widespread since the second half of the 20th century. Since any desire for anonymity occurs only for two reasons: the beneficiary fears for his property (feels that he cannot protect his property rights from criminal encroachments); or the beneficiary obtains his property by criminal means (he himself is a criminal and is afraid of the law).

[_act_]

I trust well-known and reputable casino websites much more. An anonymous casino sounds a bit scary to me. I mean, if I honestly win a large amount of money in an anonymous casino and they refuse to pay out my winnings, who am I supposed to complain to if the casino has an anonymous legal address? That’s why I believe a casino cannot be anonymous by definition. Only the player can be anonymous.

More important thing is reputation, we have many anonymous casinos on this forum and we are using them, although there are some casinos on this forum that are not anonymous but requiring KYC. What I go mostly for is reputation. If I see a gambling site that requires KYC but people are complaining about the gambling site, I will prefer the sites that does not require KYC.

Also there is nothing scary about the name, because something is anonymous or requiring no KYC, that does not makes it scary, we that are into crypto know many gambling sites like that with excellent reputation. What I like and avoid are the gambling sites that have no license.

[iv4n]

Do you see this as pure marketing, or does “anonymous” actually matter to you?

Well, it's part of the marketing. Many players like casinos without a strict KYC policy, so some casinos have that "Anonymous" attached somewhere... on the site, here in their ANN threads. So that "anonymous" only means "no KYC", but at the same time, all of them reserve the right to ask you for KYC.

Crypto casinos are more private than traditional casinos, but people who wish to be truly anonymous need to use Tor, VPN, Monero (or some other privacy coin).