China taking over the world without military actions.

[barbara44]

In the 1980s and before, history recorded that China was one of the poorest countries, but now in just a few decades, China has become a country with a fairly strong economy and has become one of the strongest competitors of the US, having a major influence in almost every region.

That's because thanks to the United States' policy mistake of out-sourcing jobs and production to China, India, and other Asian countries.

We can't blame USA only because of how they moved manufacturing to China, it was also China that made that happen and a possibility. While it has caused many sweat shops, deaths, and poverty, it has moved it there with tears and blood but made it happen.

Basically, people who are living a better life in China today, can do that thanks to their parents working in terrible conditions. But China realized decades ago, if they ruin the lives of just a single generation and make them get all the jobs, then the future would be much better and they were right. It's difficult to make that decision, but they are getting the fruits of their labour now.

[Churchillvv]

I can’t disagree with you op but we can’t also say that china isn’t using millions might to take over some close countries but in terms of economic strength china is truly strategically ruling the world today, china has successfully put panic in the US economy when trump slammed the huge tariffs on them, their reaction was to expose the fact that all the goods and products that companies in the USA claims is their are produced in the china and sent to them to assemble making them claim they created the product that dropped the purchasing power in the US with this point I think I agree with you op.

[Wind_FURY]

It's actually VERY funny that some people in BitcoinTalk believe, or maybe they're merely saying it, that the time of the United States' role as the dominant super power "is over". But what is China doing? Because with their economic and military strength, they can't even invade Taiwan, nor can they stop the U.S. from attacking Venezuela and soon, Iran.

  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No, nobody is saying that American dominance has ended. They remain the number one superpower and will maintain that position for several more decades. However, we should not deny that this dominance is being challenged by the rise of China and BRICS. The USD still dominates globally, but is gradually losing market share as the idea of ​​dedollarization become more widespread

I won't mention anyone's names, but there are people in BitcoinTalk who post that. It's laughable.

About China, and the BRICS - they could "challenge" the United States Dollar, BUT it's not currently a threat. If it starts becoming a threat, then I'll be the first to admit that. But RIGHT NOW, let's not spread bull-crap.

The world has changed, and use of military force and disregard for international law still help the US maintain its position. But in the long run, this only leads countries to seek way to reduce their dependence and look for alternatives.

The US is not the first and only superpower to dominate this world. They replaced the British Empire as the dominant world power after WW2. History has proven that no nation can maintain that forever. So, let's wait and see how long they can maintain that.

How many years, in your opinion, does the United States left as a "Dominant Super Power"?

[DrBeer]

China's strategy was very different; it lasted for many years, and they achieved what they wanted. I can say that they are currently the most powerful country in the world. And they didn't achieve this through military force alone. However, they are very strong militarily, and they excel in every industry and technology, and they also have a very large population.

I think their main achievement is production, because no country can compete with them in trade. They gained their current position entirely through trade, not military means.

It was like that until recently. The idea was to build a bridge between communism/socialism and capitalism. Deng Xiaoping had a wonderful idea, which he brought to life. The question is: what has the Chinese economy turned into now? Huge hidden state subsidies to its manufacturers so that they can compete unfairly in foreign markets? Usurpation of power and an attempt to “subjugate” private companies to state control? Internal competition and purges at the top?
 Confrontation with the West? It seems to me that this is not the best path Xi Jinping could have chosen, but... he did it and continues to play the “I am the new empire” game, with questionable processes inside and outside China.

[Wind_FURY]

Shower thought. We can't actually be sure if China can truly "take over" the world WITHOUT military action, BUT the surge on Silver might be one, of more actions, that they're attempting to make it hard for the United States and their allies to maintain their dominance?

There are reports that China has started to implement restrictions for foreign access of Chinese mined/refined Silver. I believe they're the largest exporter of this important industrial metal.

[abhiseshakana]

China's strategy was very different; it lasted for many years, and they achieved what they wanted. I can say that they are currently the most powerful country in the world. And they didn't achieve this through military force alone. However, they are very strong militarily, and they excel in every industry and technology, and they also have a very large population.

I think their main achievement is production, because no country can compete with them in trade. They gained their current position entirely through trade, not military means.

It was like that until recently. The idea was to build a bridge between communism/socialism and capitalism. Deng Xiaoping had a wonderful idea, which he brought to life. The question is: what has the Chinese economy turned into now? Huge hidden state subsidies to its manufacturers so that they can compete unfairly in foreign markets? Usurpation of power and an attempt to “subjugate” private companies to state control? Internal competition and purges at the top?
 Confrontation with the West? It seems to me that this is not the best path Xi Jinping could have chosen, but... he did it and continues to play the “I am the new empire” game, with questionable processes inside and outside China.

Hide your strength, bide your time is Deng's Main principle which mean not confrontative with targeting industrialization, global market integration, technology transfer, domestic stability and get legitimation from communist party. At that time no plan to be geopolitical power only to be world manufacture with major action, China opening wide economy, pull in investation massively, exporting cheap manufactured product so avoid global tension and conflict, very different with what world see now. Actually if we read the history, Ancient Chinese is worldwide trader who spread cultural influence around the globe, so modern silk trade road and BRI can't be seen as distortion from Deng main principle but rather a next phase after Deng target has been achieved.

I agree there are paradigm shift on Xi's era. Xi use economy as geopolitical power, He controlling strategic sector politically and suddenly has sistemic confrontation with western ally. Simply we can say Deng build foundation and after China get stability and power, Xi make power projection. Through Xi's leadership China back to comunist party doctrin which is economy serve the country not country serve economy, thats why national interest always above market, because market only tools not purpose even privat company is only a national instrument. Xi close full liberalitation hope post Deng's era and bring China back to Mao era with economic pramagtism, Xi has consideration that China already strong enough, they already dominate world supply chain and the last USD and western domination as geopolitical risk for China.

I see BRI and silk trade route is sistemic imperialism which China dominate trade and its supply chain, China controlling logistics and now China try to ruled economic architecture. I can see Xi's plan of Eurasia recentralization with China as hub.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hide_your_strength,_bide_your_time

[Wind_FURY]

China's strategy was very different; it lasted for many years, and they achieved what they wanted. I can say that they are currently the most powerful country in the world. And they didn't achieve this through military force alone. However, they are very strong militarily, and they excel in every industry and technology, and they also have a very large population.

I think their main achievement is production, because no country can compete with them in trade. They gained their current position entirely through trade, not military means.

It was like that until recently. The idea was to build a bridge between communism/socialism and capitalism. Deng Xiaoping had a wonderful idea, which he brought to life. The question is: what has the Chinese economy turned into now? Huge hidden state subsidies to its manufacturers so that they can compete unfairly in foreign markets? Usurpation of power and an attempt to “subjugate” private companies to state control? Internal competition and purges at the top?
 Confrontation with the West? It seems to me that this is not the best path Xi Jinping could have chosen, but... he did it and continues to play the “I am the new empire” game, with questionable processes inside and outside China.

Hide your strength, bide your time is Deng's Main principle which mean not confrontative with targeting industrialization, global market integration, technology transfer, domestic stability and get legitimation from communist party. At that time no plan to be geopolitical power only to be world manufacture with major action, China opening wide economy, pull in investation massively, exporting cheap manufactured product so avoid global tension and conflict, very different with what world see now. Actually if we read the history, Ancient Chinese is worldwide trader who spread cultural influence around the globe, so modern silk trade road and BRI can't be seen as distortion from Deng main principle but rather a next phase after Deng target has been achieved.

I agree there are paradigm shift on Xi's era. Xi use economy as geopolitical power, He controlling strategic sector politically and suddenly has sistemic confrontation with western ally. Simply we can say Deng build foundation and after China get stability and power, Xi make power projection. Through Xi's leadership China back to comunist party doctrin which is economy serve the country not country serve economy, thats why national interest always above market, because market only tools not purpose even privat company is only a national instrument. Xi close full liberalitation hope post Deng's era and bring China back to Mao era with economic pramagtism, Xi has consideration that China already strong enough, they already dominate world supply chain and the last USD and western domination as geopolitical risk for China.

I see BRI and silk trade route is sistemic imperialism which China dominate trade and its supply chain, China controlling logistics and now China try to ruled economic architecture. I can see Xi's plan of Eurasia recentralization with China as hub.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hide_your_strength,_bide_your_time

But China's main and ACTUAL problem to their path of achieving the "Dominant Super Power" status is themselves.

 

Their population is getting older/dying. Birth rates are decreasing and female reproductive fertility is also going down. It is estimated that by 2050, there will be more old people than young people. So China doesn't have "time".

[bettercrypto]

You know, if we really look into it, China is on the verge of overtaking the US in this current generation. Especially if you compare their technology in terms of transportation,
 like commuter trains China’s is arguably better.

China is excellent at infrastructure investment; that’s a fact that can't be hidden or denied. In my personal opinion,
they truly have the capability to pull it off.

[abhiseshakana]

But China's main and ACTUAL problem to their path of achieving the "Dominant Super Power" status is themselves.

 

Their population is getting older/dying. Birth rates are decreasing and female reproductive fertility is also going down. It is estimated that by 2050, there will be more old people than young people. So China doesn't have "time".

I think Xi and China communist party has notice about this issue and already has prediction. Beside China government has remove one child policy and campaigning about 3 or three child. Government also applied some policy that family friendly such as educational subsidies, property reduction cost. Beside that China has compensated demography projection through other instrument for productive age problem solution. They focused on strengthening capability and stability i/o capacity which can't be pushed on urban modern country. Massive automation and robotic has been use to reduce dependence on young workforce with industry shifting from household manufactured to be high value added industry. China also continuing urbanization program, so semi rural citizen can be productive for economic and advance development. Government also focusing on STEM education which meaning less workforce but more productive. The last but not least BRI will be way out for all China demographic problem.

I agree that demographic problem restrict China ambition but government already take precaution action because in 2050 i think AI and robot will replace many labor,  AI will dominate human work and China the most ready country to face this challenges.