Are some casino scam accusations just negative marketing in disguise?

[xenomorfo]

I've seen that too. Some complaints are perfectly valid, but when several new accounts appear telling almost identical stories, it gets a little strange. With strong competition between casinos, you can't rule out negative marketing to tarnish the image of others. That's why I think the best thing to do is look at the player's history, see if there's real proof, and if other people have had the same problem. Not every complaint is a lie, but you can't believe everything you hear either.

This doesn't just happen with casinos, but it also happens in real life. Fake reviews, both positive and negative. To tell the truth, it is more likely to find fake positive reviews, it is very rare to come across negative ones, but they exist. When money is involved, people are willing to do anything.

[Awaklara]

The real battle is happening over who has the right and best budget for marketing, and whoever knows the best way wins. Everyone is busy attracting customers in the best way they can; spending money to ruin others' reputations will be a waste if a casino is too attracted to the other and needs those people as customers. The best they can do is offer to buy them off and merge together; that spreading of negative information about competitors looks old-fashioned to me too.

You are right, I don't think competition between business brands gets that dirty. They have a good marketing budget to attract new customers. They have strong programs to retain customers, so they keep playing at their casino. That would be better. They certainly know that what makes them big is not just the number of new customers they manage to bring in, but the customers who can remain loyal and keep playing at their casino.

[Jatiluhung]

I share the same opinion as the original poster on this matter. However, I personally cannot draw any conclusions either. It could be that these new users came here because they know that many people here use the same website that they use. But honestly, when there is a problem with a website, I sometimes prefer to report it directly to their customer service or the person directly involved rather than making accusations or something similar. Honestly, it's quite confusing. However, all possibilities are always there. It could be a false accusation or it could be genuine. But if they are new account users, then if they find the  Scam Accusations board on this forum, it means they are quite familiar with this forum.

[TopTort777]

But with so many new accounts and similar complaint patterns, it’s hard not to question if some of this is manufactured noise.

Dont forget that those newbies never intended to create an account here, leave some posts or rank-up, before they had troubles with casinos. It is totally not surprising that newbies or fresh registered accounts complain. If you would have an issues with something and go to forums for solution, you would also have a new account. Patterns can be suspicious, but you have to count with that they complain over same problems. Stuck deposit/withdrawal, unfair ban. These are top problems people face, so it could be not pattern at all.

[viljy]

It's quite possible. Moreover, it will require minimal effort from such scammers. All you need to do is come up with a plausible "legend" (slandering a competitor), and fabricate "evidence", which is usually screenshots that can be generated with the highest degree of plausibility, thanks to neural networks.

How to identify this kind of negative marketing? One of the signs is that such a complainer publishes his accusations and "evidence" week after week (negative marketing needs views), while this has absolutely no effect on solving his "problem" (and he is well aware of this). In other words, if the complainer is "beating the air" (a graphomaniac, writes a lot of the same thing in essence and with a lot of "evidence"), then this is not a real victim, but a "negative marketer".

[wiss19]

This is true. There is not even a single doubt about it, this is 100% absolutely correct. I am sure that there are many casinos, who employ people to go spread negative news about other casinos, and this is some sort of marketing method and they all do it. In fact, it's such a common thing that, "fans" of some casinos do it for free, they do not gamble at another place, and yet they blame those places to be scams because of how much they are fanatics about one place and that is the reason why this becomes an issue.

[Sammye3]

This is a valid observation and could actually be a marketing strategy to taint the image of other casinos too, because some complaints are actually questionable when you look closely. If they were actually valid complaints, someone close would have had similar complaints as well, but its strange that we only see such complaints online from users.

For further clarification, I believe it's best if it's still possible, to check the authenticity of such complaints before evaluation. Or the casino can publicly debunk such accusations with proof, that could help secure the trust of customers and control the spread of false accusations. Though it's hard to prove, but it would be a really bad approach if casinos use false rumours to bring down their counterparts.

[alani123]

Of course there is going to be bad publicity that comes from false information.
Sometimes it's based purely on false accusations but it's not always organised.
There are a certain few sour losers but there's also the possibility of this being well organized. In that event though, if the data is completely falseified, it will be easy for the casino to come out and say they don't have this player. If this happens too much it will be easy to recognize the pattern. That's why we ask for evidence.

[Haunebu]

100%! Dead giveaway is usually a pack of newbie accounts shitting on a site without providing any sort of proof whatsoever. This isn't really common though since it's a risky strategy and doesn't really work based on what I observed over time.

This is why it's always best to monitor complaints from a member of any rank thoroughly before reaching a conclusion.

[Beparanf]

100%! Dead giveaway is usually a pack of newbie accounts shitting on a site without providing any sort of proof whatsoever. This isn't really common though since it's a risky strategy and doesn't really work based on what I observed over time.

This is why it's always best to monitor complaints from a member of any rank thoroughly before reaching a conclusion.

Exactly, they are improving now by providing their bet history as way to prove that they are actually betting on the casino but it doesn’t justify that they don’t do wrong.

Most of these newbies probably owned by same group that do the same trick on different casino that violated the ToS.

Only few scam accusation now is genuine and most of them are just related to bonus count.

[arwin100]

But with so many new accounts and similar complaint patterns, it’s hard not to question if some of this is manufactured noise.

Dont forget that those newbies never intended to create an account here, leave some posts or rank-up, before they had troubles with casinos. It is totally not surprising that newbies or fresh registered accounts complain. If you would have an issues with something and go to forums for solution, you would also have a new account. Patterns can be suspicious, but you have to count with that they complain over same problems. Stuck deposit/withdrawal, unfair ban. These are top problems people face, so it could be not pattern at all.

This is common behavior by people and nothing surprising about this since not everyone have account in this Forum. As being said there are people just create new account so they can post their experience. But also as long as they can post valid proof I think their case will stand especially if they want to post awareness against the forum they are pointing out.

But we can't also deny that there's trolling happening here, we could notice that on any threads on gambling sections. But most of those trolls didn't succeed because people knows about this action and usually majority ignore those people spreading lies.

[Emeraldo]

In responding to this I think it's a two way thing, a casino of course can get a false positive and a negative feedback. Let explain what I mean by this a casino can put up a strategy and people might get interested in it and then work with it but fail to understand in detail the conditions attached to that casino policy and all but at this point the user has already concluded and has given a false negative feedback. Competitors might have a way of making the the casino look or appear like a bad casino or a dubious one which might not be true.

[Dunamisx]

Some people only knows how to accuse for nothing, while some occasional do this when they feels their right has been stepped upon, the last set are those that doesn't care regardless of the condition, they don't accuse for anything, from here, we can see the reflection for our own personal self and the way some of the gambling platforms have also been accused the right and wrong ways, and the intentions for doing this may varies.

[Zadicar]

But with so many new accounts and similar complaint patterns, it’s hard not to question if some of this is manufactured noise.

Dont forget that those newbies never intended to create an account here, leave some posts or rank-up, before they had troubles with casinos. It is totally not surprising that newbies or fresh registered accounts complain. If you would have an issues with something and go to forums for solution, you would also have a new account. Patterns can be suspicious, but you have to count with that they complain over same problems. Stuck deposit/withdrawal, unfair ban. These are top problems people face, so it could be not pattern at all.

This is common behavior by people and nothing surprising about this since not everyone have account in this Forum. As being said there are people just create new account so they can post their experience. But also as long as they can post valid proof I think their case will stand especially if they want to post awareness against the forum they are pointing out.

But we can't also deny that there's trolling happening here, we could notice that on any threads on gambling sections. But most of those trolls didn't succeed because people knows about this action and usually majority ignore those people spreading lies.

As long there's a valid proof then we the community would be able to make up some judgement. Just like been said that we arent biased on here or this community on which if we do see solid evidences about a certain platform do make out some shady behavior then we are making those tags that this isnt a site that could be trusted and once it do happens then it will be that making a huge impact into someones business. Not all newbie accounts are those users who do have their main accounts on which there are those actual new users who had just that registered for the sake of making up some complaints. We are really just that dubtious or having those suspicions on which we cant be able to blame on because we do know that in the past on which there are those individuals who are that trying out to pretend but in the end they were actually known to be old users of this forum. Some are just that trying out to make some trolling and telling this and that but ending up on having no solid proof.

[KiaKia]

How can we say that accusations can turn into marketing? It makes no sense.

Scam accusations are not always fake either, I know that some gamblers get pissed for losing all their money and they will come up with lies to try to tarnish the casino image but there is always this possibility that the casino is the problem.

Things don't always look negative up until more victims starts to show up.
I have investigated some accusations only to end up with lies from the accuser side just to look like a victim or spoil the casino's name.

[centrum]

Some people only knows how to accuse for nothing, while some occasional do this when they feels their right has been stepped upon, the last set are those that doesn't care regardless of the condition, they don't accuse for anything, from here, we can see the reflection for our own personal self and the way some of the gambling platforms have also been accused the right and wrong ways, and the intentions for doing this may varies.

actually people are not the same so the way they talk is also different. some people start complaining over small things without thinking about right or wrong,some people toleratte a lot but speak only when they feel the limit is crossed. and some people do not care at all whether it is right or wrong they stay quiet and live their own way...we see these types of people every day, from this we can understend that complaining is not always bad and not every complaint is true. sometimes people speak from their experience and sometimes from anger or frustration... that is why every statement should not be judged in the same way. first we need to understend why the person is speaking and what situation they are in...

[Agbe]

Some people only knows how to accuse for nothing, while some occasional do this when they feels their right has been stepped upon, the last set are those that doesn't care regardless of the condition, they don't accuse for anything, from here, we can see the reflection for our own personal self and the way some of the gambling platforms have also been accused the right and wrong ways, and the intentions for doing this may varies.

Some accusations is to point bad image on the casino and those are the accusations that if you ask them to provide evidence, they could not. When a gambler registered and deposit funds to a casino, and I nthe process of gambling, he wins and when he process the withdrawal, the account is restricted or ban. Even though he can't provide the evidence from the account what amount the deposit receipt from his end. He can blur the names and send the other information as evidence but that too would not found, those kind of accusations are to damage the image of the casino.

[r_victory]

In a place where we are all anonymous, I believe it is possible that some novice users, with accounts created exclusively to file these scam accusations, are even employees of other casinos, trying to harm the competition in some way. Look, I'm not saying that everyone does this, and I also believe that a good part of these accusations are well-founded and need to be investigated. "Foul play" is real in many markets!

[MRY]

Some people only knows how to accuse for nothing, while some occasional do this when they feels their right has been stepped upon, the last set are those that doesn't care regardless of the condition, they don't accuse for anything, from here, we can see the reflection for our own personal self and the way some of the gambling platforms have also been accused the right and wrong ways, and the intentions for doing this may varies.

Some accusations is to point bad image on the casino and those are the accusations that if you ask them to provide evidence, they could not. When a gambler registered and deposit funds to a casino, and I nthe process of gambling, he wins and when he process the withdrawal, the account is restricted or ban. Even though he can't provide the evidence from the account what amount the deposit receipt from his end. He can blur the names and send the other information as evidence but that too would not found, those kind of accusations are to damage the image of the casino.

Proliferation of claims that have no ground in actual evidence has frequently become a tool of sabotage to upset the confidence of the populace in the honesty of a working platform. I have noticed that the failure to deliver valid transactions information is a strong indication of other motives of such information attacks. We should not buy the storeys of account blocking that cannot dig a transparent factual verification by all parties. The major point to note is to remain objective to the evaluation of conflicts to not be used as middlemen to propagate harmful slander.

[Cryptoprincess101]

So it made me wonder, with how competitive the online casino space is now, is it really just about marketing and promos anymore? We all know casinos spend a lot to attract players, but do you think some of them also play dirty and use negative marketing? By that I mean, could some casinos be using throwaway or newbie accounts to post bad stories, accusations, or doubt against competitors, just to damage their reputation and scare players away?

There are many casinos out there of which there will be competition amongst them but i wonder why any casino will want to defame another casino when the competition is not centered on few casinos but many of them. Of course, even in a business, there is competition and attempts to damage the reputation of one another, but it makes no sense if a casino will choose to play dirty when the sky is there for everyone to explore. Casinos makes a lot of money, it is how you develop your site and the features, games, marketing strategy and customers satisfaction that will determine how popular your casino company will be so it's just to employ good strategy to improve on things that the other casinos are not getting right or didn't do the right way instead of the hate against each other. Most of those newbie accounts that creates scam accusation threads are high rank members that choose to disguise as newbies and it's high time people stopped paying attention to them, if anyone wants to raise a scam accusation against any casino, they should use their main accounts and create the threads instead of hiding under a newbie account.