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we have heard of super cycles happening because of etfs and big companies adopting bitcoin but this is why the 4-year cycle is still true albeit with a few changes of market dynamics

“The four-year cycle remains intact. Bitcoin peaked in October at approximately $126,000, consistent with prior cycle timing.”

the reason why the downturn has arrived earlier are because of rising electricity costs and miner capitulation. but the changes for this year are that the market will still grow because of more adoption, on-chain lending, tokenization, and payment infrastructure.

canary capital group says:
“I expect this bear phase to result in a 50–55% peak-to-trough decline. With BTC already down roughly 30%, a gradual decline over the next 6–9 months is reasonable. This trajectory aligns with expected Federal Reserve policy shifts and suggests a cyclical trough forming in mid-to-late summer, followed by recovery.”
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Today at 03:06:03 AM
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You can make mistakes for your decisions on entries and exits within one market cycle as it's impossible to find best entries and exits as well as timing the market accurately. Fortunately, if you plan your investment longer than one market cycle, like two or three cycles, you will reduce your risk of making mistakes while you will be able to achieve both important things.

With entries, you can make many entries that are helpful for your Bitcoin portfolio accumulation over years - two or three market cycles means a lot of years for accumulation.

With exits, you can make different take profit rounds and you will never miss chances of taking profit over 8 or 12 years in this market.

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Today at 03:59:01 AM
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It may not be fully dead, but it isn't completely the old 4-year cycle anymore. In the first place, there was already an ATH shortly before the last halving. That's not part of the 4-year cycle that we used to know. Also, I'm optimistic that another ATH will be hit within the year. If that happens, then it's another big change in the 4-year cycle.

Other than that, it seems the 4-year cycle is still alive. And the downturn this time around didn't really arrive earlier. If we take a look at the past ATHs, they occur around 1.5 years from the halving. After that, correction follows.

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Today at 04:14:42 AM
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The only way to know for sure is to find out by waiting, what if bitcoin within the Q1 of this year reach near all time high again?

That basically broke the 4 year cycle and since bitcoin is going back to above $90k. We just gotta wait and see the direction of the market.

4 Year cycle might not be dead for now but it can be dead in the future once the pattern go astray.

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Today at 06:25:56 AM
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The only way to know for sure is to find out by waiting, what if bitcoin within the Q1 of this year reach near all time high again?

That basically broke the 4 year cycle and since bitcoin is going back to above $90k. We just gotta wait and see the direction of the market.

4 Year cycle might not be dead for now but it can be dead in the future once the pattern go astray.
Bitcoin has been struggling to break above the $100k price. There's bullish signs but the momentum remains weak. The cycle to me is still very much in place and hasn't changed.

And I totally agree with you. The year is still very fresh to know if the cycle will or will not follow through. Right now we just have to sit and watch what price may be doing next.

If we have enough external influences on price that's may just be sufficient enough, then we may be hitting a new ath before the first quarter of this year. That would be an incredible breaking by BTC..

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Today at 09:04:58 AM
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Be very careful.

Don't be totally out of Bitcoin because of any predictions, something might change, and to avoid missing out always make sure you have some Bitcoin, you can have a plan to accumulate Bitcoin better when or if it ever drop down to $60,000 but don't always count on it.

A very smart investor will always prepare himself for all possible outcomes, they will have some money set aside for taking advantage of dips and they will have some Bitcoin left in their wallet atleast for sudden unexpected surges.

I don't care about the 4 years cycle, it's deceiving to follow this completely, when you selling don't sell all completely and when you buying always have some dry powder set aside, you will be fine.

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Today at 09:16:23 AM
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It may not be fully dead, but it isn't completely the old 4-year cycle anymore. In the first place, there was already an ATH shortly before the last halving. That's not part of the 4-year cycle that we used to know. Also, I'm optimistic that another ATH will be hit within the year. If that happens, then it's another big change in the 4-year cycle.

Other than that, it seems the 4-year cycle is still alive. And the downturn this time around didn't really arrive earlier. If we take a look at the past ATHs, they occur around 1.5 years from the halving. After that, correction follows.

I agree that Bitcoin reaching an ATH before the halving somewhat indicates that the market cycle has changed compared to previous cycles. However, I would only acknowledge that the cycle has been completely broken if Bitcoin can reach a new ATH this year, as you predict. Conversely, if that does not happen and bitcoin continues to be dumped this year, this scenario would still fit the logic of the old cycle

Each stage of the market is influenced by different factor, ranging from macroeconomic condition and liquidity to investor behavior. Therefore, it is unrealistic to expect the cycles to repeat mechanically and identically down to the smallest detail. And it would be unfair to hastily conclude that the cycle has completely changed because of a few minor change

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Today at 09:52:37 AM
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I certainly wouldnt be making any decisions regarding Bitcoin Purchases or sales based on anyones
opinion on whether the Bitcoin cycle is dead or not, nobody can tell for sure if either is the case until
we are well into the year and the market has decided whether its in a Bear or Bull sentiment.



I will continue with my own strategy while not influenced on whether the cycle is over or not.
My vision is long term.


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Today at 10:10:35 AM
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Yes Bitcoin peaked at $126k in October which does line up with the 4 year cycle however there was an all time high for Bitcoin before the halving in 2024 , first time that has happened and also last year was a red year overall when it should have been green if you are going by previous cycles, again first time that has happened.

The fact is none of us know for sure whats going to happen this year, the market is currently falling because of Trump and more tariffs and that could last for months but we have QE coming for first time in 4 years and more rate cuts which is usually good for crypto so there is a bullish argument for a good 2026 also.

I am just holding for now, too hard to predict which was this is going to go.
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Today at 10:26:01 AM
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Be very careful.

Don't be totally out of Bitcoin because of any predictions, something might change, and to avoid missing out always make sure you have some Bitcoin, you can have a plan to accumulate Bitcoin better when or if it ever drop down to $60,000 but don't always count on it.

A very smart investor will always prepare himself for all possible outcomes, they will have some money set aside for taking advantage of dips and they will have some Bitcoin left in their wallet atleast for sudden unexpected surges.

I don't care about the 4 years cycle, it's deceiving to follow this completely, when you selling don't sell all completely and when you buying always have some dry powder set aside, you will be fine.
This makes sense, with the current market right now, it's totally difficult to predict the next action of Bitcoin, just incase we will never drop anymore on $60,000 there are also lot of possibilities we will also not create new all-time high, like we will go sideways below $100,000, like what happened last quarter of year 2024, before we reached all-time high at 2025.

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Today at 11:57:45 AM
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The 4 year cycle is not dead yet, logically 4 years ahead then save the last year as the year you take profit means the remaining 3 years focus on DCA, as long as finances can consistently fulfill long-term investments for 3 or 3,5 years can be used as a benchmark for you so as not to get too hung up on bad sentiment that tries to shake the bitcoin handle.

Just need to dismiss the issue, whether it is ETF, Adoption, Regulation, US etc., just 3.5 years of investment focus and in year 4 you determine the position to take profits.

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we have heard of super cycles happening because of etfs and big companies adopting bitcoin but this is why the 4-year cycle is still true albeit with a few changes of market dynamics

the reason why the downturn has arrived earlier are because of rising electricity costs and miner capitulation. but the changes for this year are that the market will still grow because of more adoption, on-chain lending, tokenization, and payment infrastructure.  
The cycle will always signal that Bitcoin will reach its peak value when the momentum is met, as it has in previous cycles. I think we will always see that moment, even though there are sometimes some changes in the dynamics of Bitcoin's trajectory in the market. This will be unique because although we can't make accurate predictions, there are always signs that Bitcoin will reach its peak value when the four-year cycle is fulfilled and this is a good signal for people to capitalize on the potential.

I'm not really concerned about the impact of the downturn, as it's bound to happen in the market. It's better to look for opportunities to enter the market to accumulate after making profits in the previous period when the ATH arrives. There are many conditions that could influence Bitcoin to experience a decline or increase and generally this will definitely happen without having to think about it and cause excessive panic.

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Today at 01:53:56 PM
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we have heard of super cycles happening because of etfs and big companies adopting bitcoin but this is why the 4-year cycle is still true albeit with a few changes of market dynamics

Four years circle still remains, it is expected that we only know how to track and speculate for each time this is coming in place, because there will always be an incidence or occasion that could lead to the realization of this, we have halving also, which we can't deny that it's also part of what we are talking about, but they don't just occur without causing a shift in the market demand and supply, that is the reason we will continuously have a volatile market with bitcoin because of the circles must come.

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So, basically, the drill is the same - weak hands suffer, strong ones - get the most diamonds out of the quarry  Wink
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Today at 02:39:33 PM
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we have heard of super cycles happening because of etfs and big companies adopting bitcoin but this is why the 4-year cycle is still true albeit with a few changes of market dynamics

“The four-year cycle remains intact. Bitcoin peaked in October at approximately $126,000, consistent with prior cycle timing.”

the reason why the downturn has arrived earlier are because of rising electricity costs and miner capitulation. but the changes for this year are that the market will still grow because of more adoption, on-chain lending, tokenization, and payment infrastructure.

canary capital group says:
“I expect this bear phase to result in a 50–55% peak-to-trough decline. With BTC already down roughly 30%, a gradual decline over the next 6–9 months is reasonable. This trajectory aligns with expected Federal Reserve policy shifts and suggests a cyclical trough forming in mid-to-late summer, followed by recovery.”

A 50-55% drop from the peak would be good, but I also admit we could reach 70%. Regarding the four-year cycle, I'm also inclined to believe that cycles are fine, and I'd only believe in a hypercycle if Bitcoin were to reach a new ATH in the coming months. This remains a possibility, as a lot of liquidity is currently concentrated in precious metals. If liquidity flows into Bitcoin, I admit its price could see a significant rise, but I don't think the likelihood is very high.

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Today at 03:09:10 PM
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I believe that the market will continue to grow but that's not to the point that the bull run isn't going to end.
While it's not yet dead as of now, we shouldn't be too happy when we see some signals that it's not yet dead.
Because that kind of hope might be gone when we start to see a sudden plummet. I'm not wishing for it.
But what I am telling is that we all should guard our positions and mostly, our hearts that can make us so emotional with this wild ride.

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Today at 03:38:17 PM
 #17

I believe that the market will continue to grow but that's not to the point that the bull run isn't going to end.
While it's not yet dead as of now, we shouldn't be too happy when we see some signals that it's not yet dead.
Because that kind of hope might be gone when we start to see a sudden plummet. I'm not wishing for it.
But what I am telling is that we all should guard our positions and mostly, our hearts that can make us so emotional with this wild ride.

We should only act when our targets are reached.

And not to allow emotions or a bit of red dictate what we do with our coins.

Everything will be okay as long as we think rationally.

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Today at 03:53:24 PM
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The 4 year cycle is not dead yet, logically 4 years ahead then save the last year as the year you take profit means the remaining 3 years focus on DCA, as long as finances can consistently fulfill long-term investments for 3 or 3,5 years can be used as a benchmark for you so as not to get too hung up on bad sentiment that tries to shake the bitcoin handle.

Just need to dismiss the issue, whether it is ETF, Adoption, Regulation, US etc., just 3.5 years of investment focus and in year 4 you determine the position to take profits.
Taking profit too early may not bear reasonable returns because within this duration, there's also going to ups and downs and we know how Trump and political sentiments affect the market more than trends and analysis could.
The four year cycle is to me a reset time where an investor knows their stand in the market, but with rising adoption both for large institutional holders and as strategic reserve asset, the mathematical rhythm dare not fail or we find other cryptocurrency doing same and that may signal the begining of the end of the crypto currency race, but that ain't going to happen.

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Today at 04:48:51 PM
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I believe that the market will continue to grow but that's not to the point that the bull run isn't going to end.
While it's not yet dead as of now, we shouldn't be too happy when we see some signals that it's not yet dead.
Because that kind of hope might be gone when we start to see a sudden plummet. I'm not wishing for it.
But what I am telling is that we all should guard our positions and mostly, our hearts that can make us so emotional with this wild ride.

We should only act when our targets are reached.

And not to allow emotions or a bit of red dictate what we do with our coins.

Everything will be okay as long as we think rationally.
There is no need to be in too much action when not that much is happening.
You're right that we only act when we have seen the targets we set being hit.
Because there a lot of holders that are panicking when they have seen that their targets aren't hit.
And instead, the market is dropping a lot and that's the reason why they cannot hold any longer.

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Today at 04:59:53 PM
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we have heard of super cycles happening because of etfs and big companies adopting bitcoin but this is why the 4-year cycle is still true albeit with a few changes of market dynamics
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I am unable to understand you clearly, like what are you trying to say? IF you are trying to say that we are still in bull season, then I can agree with it because this bull season is one of the most special bull seasons that the Bitcoin market has seen ever. Because in this bull season run, the adoption of bitcoin has peaked to another level, likethe  US added it to its strategic reserve, which is not a small achievement for it, and seeing that some other countries are considering it to their strategic reverse e.g; Pakistan. ETF brings a lot of market capital into bitcoin market in this bull run.

Other than this, if you are talking about another point, like the four-year cycle is not dead, so it can't be dead, like there will always halving cycle that occur after each four years. And when it occur the market get some potential momentum in its price according to the knowledge and expricen I have about Bitcoin market. DYOR!

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