Newbies! why some of our posts never get read.

[MarryWithBTC]

I’m thinking that the title or subject name might also have some effect on how many people want to actually click on our posts. Sometimes it might be a little too vague or not eye-catching at all. Or it doesn’t really reflect the content of the post which drives others away.

Yes, that will be for another topic.
Some titles are very beautiful (hook), but when you go through, you will discover how shallow it is.
While some posts are beautifully worded but the poor title will likely discourage readers.

I read through and understood that some people are saying that good formatting doesn't eliminate content.
Yes, also good content with poor formatting doesn't also fly.

[clifaduna]

That’s right, it happens: a person tries, writes something really good - thoughtful, sincere, with a grain of their soul - and in response, they receive silence. Or a couple of idle comments. I think the idea is cool, and the thoughts are deep, and attention - the cat cried.

And all the newcomers, including me, need to lower our criteria and understand that a newcomer is just a person who has only just figured out how it works. Well, you know, like every user on the first day in a new place: the circle of heads, everything is unusual, and so far, not very clear where to run and what to do.
Of course, he will not immediately do everything perfectly. He needs time to look around, dig into the settings, feel all the buttons - in general, understand how everything works.
And of course, it will not be without mistakes. But this is normal! Because it is on their mistakes that we learn. See what went wrong, fix it, watch others - and gradually get the hang of it. So, step by step.

[fabrice.btc]

That’s right, it happens: a person tries, writes something really good - thoughtful, sincere, with a grain of their soul - and in response, they receive silence. Or a couple of idle comments. I think the idea is cool, and the thoughts are deep, and attention - the cat cried.

And all the newcomers, including me, need to lower our criteria and understand that a newcomer is just a person who has only just figured out how it works. Well, you know, like every user on the first day in a new place: the circle of heads, everything is unusual, and so far, not very clear where to run and what to do.
Of course, he will not immediately do everything perfectly. He needs time to look around, dig into the settings, feel all the buttons - in general, understand how everything works.
And of course, it will not be without mistakes. But this is normal! Because it is on their mistakes that we learn. See what went wrong, fix it, watch others - and gradually get the hang of it. So, step by step.

This is honestly what I feel more or less by making available **"A Bitcoin (Mini)-Guide"** 

Check here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5567482.0

It is for your, take it, use it, and become not BTC beginner anymore

[ancafe]

Over time on Bitcointalk, i have noticed a recurring issue that affects many newcomers, and even some older users aswell.

Some posts contains good ideas, thoughtful opinions or genuine questions, yet they recieve little or no engagement. In many cases, this is not because the idea itself is weak, but because the formatting makes the post hard to read.

If a post is too long or perhaps has a disorganized writing style, it will be ignored as good content doesn't usually require very long writing. Each person may judge a post differently as objective content sometimes has different meanings. Sometimes what I consider good may not be what someone else considers good. The most important thing is to keep trying to write because if people find our posts informative and have good ideas they will certainly appreciate them. Sometimes some people simply don't see the post, resulting in the lack of the assessment we desire.

[Finbars1234*]

Over time on Bitcointalk, i have noticed a recurring issue that affects many newcomers, and even some older users aswell.

Some posts contains good ideas, thoughtful opinions or genuine questions, yet they recieve little or no engagement. In many cases, this is not because the idea itself is weak, but because the formatting makes the post hard to read.

If a post is too long or perhaps has a disorganized writing style, it will be ignored as good content doesn't usually require very long writing. Each person may judge a post differently as objective content sometimes has different meanings. Sometimes what I consider good may not be what someone else considers good. The most important thing is to keep trying to write because if people find our posts informative and have good ideas they will certainly appreciate them. Sometimes some people simply don't see the post, resulting in the lack of the assessment we desire.

I am a newbie, and  I thank you so much for this clarification. I have always been wondering how to make my posts more simple and clear so that it can catch the attention of readers. Now I have some tips from here. There are really much to learn but I guess with time I'll get them clearly.

[uchegod-21]

Most newbies rush, they don't take their time to study and compose their post and they seems to want to get everything done once, also not being patience with themselves which is not good at all, as a newbie I the forum, you have to study how things are being done and what you should and not do, so that you will not be victimized.

Many newbies rush because, as soon as they join this forum and see the ranking system and some of the benefits attached to ranking up to a certain level, their brains become focused on writing whatever they can to increase their post count and earn some merits out of luck. Most of the mistakes they make are honest mistakes that need proper guidance to put them through. Posts like these are what newbies need to help them write more professionally. With time, we get to see newbies who are actually learning and those who are focused on writing rubbish just to increase their post count.

[Patikno]

Personally, I won't miss a discussion being proposed or one being questioned by a newbie. The problem is, I sometimes find writing or language that is difficult to understand bothering me, and even then, I often question the point of the discussion. Essentially, I prefer to discuss things that are informative and educational in a post, so that it will broaden everyone knowledge, especially for beginners. Well, generally people will appreciate a well-written and neat format, so newbies also need to improve their posts and avoid being confusing. The discussion will be easy to understand, and people will reply to the posts or threads discussed. Both need to be considered actually.

Language is not a big problem for communicating as forum members don't need to have perfect English in writing for discussions. They need basic reading and writing skills first for reading, learning and joining discussions. If they can put their efforts into their reading and writing, they will improve their writing English over time quite considerably.

Only people don't want to learn, and only aim at writing shitposts will never improve their English and their post quality.

Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors.

In the English sections, only English is allowed. It is not necessary to speak perfect English, though you should be understandable. Try your best.

Well, I don't mean to suggest users to have perfect English skills, what I mean is to use language that is organized and easy to understand when read by others, so that it won't bother anyone to think hard about what is meant. Personally, I often explain words that need explanation to make it easier to understand, and I usually use quotation marks, or brackets to explain the details. So, I think forum users can also imitate what I do, or they can do it with their own writing style (everyone has a different writing taste). The thing is, I sometimes see people who misunderstand a discussion, and sometimes also have vague intentions, so sometimes I have to ask for an explanation, or I will explain it to them.

[AVE5]

Many newbies rush because, as soon as they join this forum and see the ranking system and some of the benefits attached to ranking up to a certain level, their brains become focused on writing whatever they can to increase their post count and earn some merits out of luck. Most of the mistakes they make are honest mistakes that need proper guidance to put them through. Posts like these are what newbies need to help them write more professionally. With time, we get to see newbies who are actually learning and those who are focused on writing rubbish just to increase their post count.

The anxieties and eagerness of newbies to begin speak or haven something to contribute to the forum is just much than they're willing to learn.
So it idea appears like their learning from experience members wasn't the priority to why they joined the forum instead they creates an atmosphere that fells like everyone is expected to be a professional to the forum.
I've really think hell out why newbies don't want to learn but they're willing to teach what they don't know. Most of them barely know how to navigate the forum and while they're still amateur to study the functionality of the policies, how on earth can they even make constructive posts to give them merits to rank up?
Really absorbing.

[uchegod-21]

Many newbies rush because, as soon as they join this forum and see the ranking system and some of the benefits attached to ranking up to a certain level, their brains become focused on writing whatever they can to increase their post count and earn some merits out of luck. Most of the mistakes they make are honest mistakes that need proper guidance to put them through. Posts like these are what newbies need to help them write more professionally. With time, we get to see newbies who are actually learning and those who are focused on writing rubbish just to increase their post count.

The anxieties and eagerness of newbies to begin speak or haven something to contribute to the forum is just much than they're willing to learn.
So it idea appears like their learning from experience members wasn't the priority to why they joined the forum instead they creates an atmosphere that fells like everyone is expected to be a professional to the forum.
I've really think hell out why newbies don't want to learn but they're willing to teach what they don't know. Most of them barely know how to navigate the forum and while they're still amateur to study the functionality of the policies, how on earth can they even make constructive posts to give them merits to rank up?
Really absorbing.

That is why they are newbies. With time, they adjust to the pattern of writing of experienced members of this forum; we just see improvements in their writing style. Sometimes i feel it's just funny how when we see a newbie that writes so well, the first assumption is that that person is not new to the forum as he may claim.

Growth in this forum is a gradual process. Those who prioritise learning always stand out from the rest who make very little or no efforts in what they do here. The forum sees and knows them all.

[Taricoins]

Most newbies rush, they don't take their time to study and compose their post and they seems to want to get everything done once, also not being patience with themselves which is not good at all, as a newbie I the forum, you have to study how things are being done and what you should and not do, so that you will not be victimized.

Many newbies rush because, as soon as they join this forum and see the ranking system and some of the benefits attached to ranking up to a certain level, their brains become focused on writing whatever they can to increase their post count and earn some merits out of luck. Most of the mistakes they make are honest mistakes that need proper guidance to put them through. Posts like these are what newbies need to help them write more professionally. With time, we get to see newbies who are actually learning and those who are focused on writing rubbish just to increase their post count.

Proper orientation before reaching the forum is what makes the difference.

And of course the mindset in which you started with the forum although some persons after even securing all these can still decide to act ignorant to over look some things and try to skip to the good part which they have all their brain cells fixiated on. But mistakes are there to guide but some mistakes are hard to correct when done.

[notocactus]

Proper orientation before reaching the forum is what makes the difference.

And of course the mindset in which you started with the forum although some persons after even securing all these can still decide to act ignorant to over look some things and try to skip to the good part which they have all their brain cells fixiated on. But mistakes are there to guide but some mistakes are hard to correct when done.

People can know about the forum by introductions from someone or searching by themselves. This forum is a biggest cryptocurrency forum especially for Bitcoin community so if anyone search with key words like "Bitcoin forum", they will find Bitcointalk.org forum definitely.

Introductions or invitations from somone to join this forum possibly come with 'orientation' that can be good with details or not too good with very short introduction without details, but it's not big matter with people who are ready to learn. After joining the forum, they can easily learn many things from available sticky threads in each forum board or by searching.
Newbies - Read before posting.
[Bitcointalk sticky threads] Newbies - read before starting.
[Mega resources for newbies] Check here, find most of your need, before asking.
[Guide] Searching effectively

[0x000369]

This means that a poorly formatted post can unintentionally hide what could have been a valuable idea.

@MarryWithBTC yeah maybe sometimes a good idea gets lost in a wall of text
but let's be real here most of the time it's not some hidden gem
it's usually just a newbie asking the same basic question for the thousandth time
or trying to shill some obvious ponzi that nobody cares about

people don't read because the content is usually crap not just because it's poorly spaced
we've seen it all since 2015 dude the walls of text the terrible grammar the hopium for obvious scams
if they cared enough they'd spend five minutes learning bbcode or just observing how others post
but most just wanna dump their thoughts or beg for crumbs

good formatting helps sure but it won't save a bad post

just saying

[ancafe]

I am a newbie, and  I thank you so much for this clarification. I have always been wondering how to make my posts more simple and clear so that it can catch the attention of readers. Now I have some tips from here. There are really much to learn but I guess with time I'll get them clearly.

Anyone who wants to learn will certainly achieve good knowledge and that's how everyone reaches their best ability. Sometimes by reading and participating in discussions, we can understand a problem more quickly. A simple tip you can apply is to create constructive posts that aren't too long so people will find them easier to read, especially if you're not a native English speaker. Summarizing discussions will make it easier for people to understand your writing.

We all go through a process because we don't get everything instantly. However, if we remain consistent, our knowledge will grow significantly over time. Everyone was once a beginner, but slowly they will become knowledgeable. It's not about who is fast, but about who can persevere and be consistent.

[Dechris_08]

Well-structured and formatted posts make it easy for readers to actually read.

It's easy on the eye and easy to read.

A post that is not structured and lacks a proper format can scare people away.

In fact, a well educational post with tons of value but poorly formatted has a high probability that people will not read it.

[henry_of_skalitz]

Well-structured and formatted posts make it easy for readers to actually read.

It's easy on the eye and easy to read.

A post that is not structured and lacks a proper format can scare people away.

In fact, a well educational post with tons of value but poorly formatted has a high probability that people will not read it.

Depends on the thread in question.. It's especially relevant in mega-threads, imo, but usually, it's a mess with quoting all over the place anyway; it would help nevertheless to adopt good formating

[348Judah]

The problem with newbies is not their post not being read but as many are coming across this post they show no interest in them because of the lack of quality in those posts,  even though we can't conclude by saying that all newbies are not posting well, because some among them are trying their best to give out quality content in what they are posting but we still have to emphasize more about the need for a quality post from them

[Davidvictorson]

There are many of such examples in addition to what the OP has given. The teen I have seen it that most newbies who start off like this would later improve as they move up the ranks. This is due to the positive and negative feedback they receive from other users in the forum. But it is not all of them- some newbies develop thick-skin and improve while some others who can’t stand the criticism just leave. However, overall newbies get better with time. This has been my own observation.

[Zoomic]

There are many of such examples in addition to what the OP has given. The teen I have seen it that most newbies who start off like this would later improve as they move up the ranks. This is due to the positive and negative feedback they receive from other users in the forum. But it is not all of them- some newbies develop thick-skin and improve while some others who can’t stand the criticism just leave. However, overall newbies get better with time. This has been my own observation.

I honestly want to know the ratio of genuine newbies who leave the forum because of criticism to the ones that stay, grow thick skin and eventually get established.

I do not think that random people will just abandon the forum because someone they don't know said that they are moda-fucka and an idiot. Unless they are unjustly tagged. Criticism isn't a big deal these days.

[Die_empty]

There are many of such examples in addition to what the OP has given. The teen I have seen it that most newbies who start off like this would later improve as they move up the ranks. This is due to the positive and negative feedback they receive from other users in the forum. But it is not all of them- some newbies develop thick skin and improve while some others who can’t stand the criticism just leave. However, overall newbies get better with time. This has been my own observation.

Anyone who wants to learn would have to be willing to accept criticism, corrections, and sometimes insults. Everyone in the forum wouldn't be nice to newbies, so there is a need to be tolerant.  I also faced some problems with criticism that discouraged me. Some posts that I took time to write were talked down on by some members. But I never gave up because I wanted to learn.

I encourage newbies to accept constructive criticism and become better. They should also overlook members who have the intention to bully them. Having thick skin is essential in surviving in a public forum.

[DPHOR]

To me what I noticed about what you are saying is that "most newbies moves From readers To teacher" meaning they found themselves too exposed or more educated and experienced above some of the higher members, whereas; if you read what they thought is helpful is something that has already been questioned here.

Note very well that whatever questions that is in your mind today to ask about the forum has already been asked by another person, the main thing is for you as the questionnaire to do more finding regarding the community to know if such post has already been established here or not. But instead they would prefer to go straight to talk and whenever people sees the title or even Read the body of the message they wouldn't mind just stoping there and never read further because, often time say questions keeps coming.

You should also take note that; newbies are always desperate either in acquiring hiring ranks whereby what occupies them is entirely how they could rank up or even earned higher merits without them putting the work force over here to approve themselves worthy enough over here. Also do not think that writing a wall of test connotes the how quality then you are getting it wrongly or twisted. Forum is here to stay what you need is a gradual progress to follow up the forum and also discover your quality and value to the community and whenever you discovers This then ranking up and earning merits becomes regular and usual things for you without even you struggling for it.