Tightening of gambling influencers etc.

[Fortify]

I'm a little confused about what to call the title, but let's start with this sentence....

I'm quite concerned about the negative experiences of gamblers who experience negative outcomes, such as following bets placed by influencers and/or joining prediction groups or paying to join betting signal-sharing communities, with minimal returns, despite the methods they employ to encourage their audience to join such spaces without any clear outcome.

I'm starting to question this.
Does your country regulate gambling influencers, and can they be restricted by preventing them from providing signals or invitations to bet indiscriminately?
If not, should we propose to the government to regulate these influencers so they don't easily engage in such activities without clear standards, such as betting classes, etc.? This could be reduced if the government took more action in enforcing regulations against those who influence gamblers.

We only learn through experience and asking questions, unfortunately there is a fairly large chunk of people out there who take a while to realize that or never wake up to that fact. They are likely to get taken advantage of by unscrupulous streamers who make money from advertisements to their followers, the "personal connection" that they try to foster with their community makes it even more compelling when they tell viewers to use certain products or services. Anything that can be done to make it clear and force influencers to disclose these profitable relationships should be encouraged by government regulators.

[libert19]

Gambling promotion is banned in my country altogether, no need to regulate it (our government likes to keep things simple, why bother regulating smth when you can simply ban it altogether?) — https://www.pib.gov.in/PressRelease/2011879

...the only way to get rid of misinformation is through solid and legit education. An education which encourages students to think rationally and critically, instead of the brainwashing educational system we have in this world where you are learned how to be a sheep walking directly to the slaughterhouse.

(where are smerits when you need 'em), This. I have said always don't expect others to safeguard you, cultivate the abilities yourself, and it's parents responsibility to safeguard minors who don't have matured thinking.

We do have a 'government-owned and controlled' regulatory commission (PAGCOR)...

This I have seen for the first time here, but when I click on 'PAGCOR' nothing happens, so what's point of the 'acronym' tag, or is it because I am on mobile so it doesn't work!?

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Good sir, I don't expect this from you, you already responded to op on first page of the thread.

[purple_sparkles]

I believe that gambling should be subject to regulation, as there are far too many cases where people end up in serious financial trouble because of it. This is especially true when it comes to minors.Of course, a large part of the responsibility lies with parents, but the authorities should also develop social programs to help children understand and recognize the manipulative techniques used in gambling, and not only in gambling.

[junder]

I'm a little confused about what to call the title, but let's start with this sentence....

I'm quite concerned about the negative experiences of gamblers who experience negative outcomes, such as following bets placed by influencers and/or joining prediction groups or paying to join betting signal-sharing communities, with minimal returns, despite the methods they employ to encourage their audience to join such spaces without any clear outcome.

I'm starting to question this.
Does your country regulate gambling influencers, and can they be restricted by preventing them from providing signals or invitations to bet indiscriminately?
If not, should we propose to the government to regulate these influencers so they don't easily engage in such activities without clear standards, such as betting classes, etc.? This could be reduced if the government took more action in enforcing regulations against those who influence gamblers.

The government system in my country can be considered corrupt. Gambling is prohibited, but I don't think they will be interested in stopping influencers who promote gambling, and they won't even be able to eradicate local gambling sites.

I don't know what's going on, but I think they might be profiting from these sites. Unfortunately, many people in my country are addicted to gambling, and this happens in all walks of life, not just one.

The struggling public and the selfish government have led many people to gamble with the hope of winning to improve their economic situation, but this has become a problem, and the government has not taken decisive action.

[davis196]

I'm a little confused about what to call the title, but let's start with this sentence....

I'm quite concerned about the negative experiences of gamblers who experience negative outcomes, such as following bets placed by influencers and/or joining prediction groups or paying to join betting signal-sharing communities, with minimal returns, despite the methods they employ to encourage their audience to join such spaces without any clear outcome.

I'm starting to question this.
Does your country regulate gambling influencers, and can they be restricted by preventing them from providing signals or invitations to bet indiscriminately?
If not, should we propose to the government to regulate these influencers so they don't easily engage in such activities without clear standards, such as betting classes, etc.? This could be reduced if the government took more action in enforcing regulations against those who influence gamblers.

The government cannot effectively "regulate" gambling influencers. The government must regulate the online platforms, where gambling influencers are streaming and posting, so that those platform could restrict the gambling influencers. I don't really think that this would solve the problem. I agree that gambling influencers make gambling more popular, but the absence of gambling influencers won't miraculously reduce the number of gambling addicts and people, who are losing money via gambling. The gambling industry will exist with or without social media influencers. The casinos/sportsbooks will simply find other marketing channels.

[retreat]

In my own country, gambling influencers are not allowed at all, because gambling is completely illegal here, so whether it's online or offline activities, any form of promotion is completely prohibited by the government. However, when it comes to gambling influencers, I don't think the government should bear full responsibility, because these influencers promote gambling platforms, and it is entirely the responsibility of the audience whether they engage with that content or not, since each person has the ability to assess the risks and take responsibility for their own decisions.

[Cryptmuster]

In my own country, gambling influencers are not allowed at all, because gambling is completely illegal here, so whether it's online or offline activities, any form of promotion is completely prohibited by the government. However, when it comes to gambling influencers, I don't think the government should bear full responsibility, because these influencers promote gambling platforms, and it is entirely the responsibility of the audience whether they engage with that content or not, since each person has the ability to assess the risks and take responsibility for their own decisions.

I think this isn't just a country specific issue right now, because we can easily access any information online, and casino ads can reach players anywhere. Therefore, the influence of influencers will be noticeable even if they're prohibited in your country. On the other hand, I think a smart person should understand the goals of those who use influencers, and then draw the right conclusions.

[Numeral]

It is permissible to sell analytical information regarding predictions for sporting events in my country, but it is strictly prohibited to use wording that could mislead the buyer, such as a 100% guarantee or empty promises. Ideally, for such a service, it is necessary to specify what the buyer will ultimately receive for their money and what they will definitely not receive. Not so long ago, there were many unscrupulous sellers of predictions who lured young, impressionable minds, promising them mountains of gold and offering them a picture of a rich life. As a result, many fell for it and gave them their money, but the predictions were the most banal and, of course, did not guarantee any wealth.

[Rockstarguy]

I'm starting to question this.
Does your country regulate gambling influencers, and can they be restricted by preventing them from providing signals or invitations to bet indiscriminately?
If not, should we propose to the government to regulate these influencers so they don't easily engage in such activities without clear standards, such as betting classes, etc.? This could be reduced if the government took more action in enforcing regulations against those who influence gamblers.

I don't think the government will do this. If at all the government wants to do something about gambling, maybe it will be to regulate gambling in a way that affects gambling companies by putting some restrictions in place.

However, trying to restrict gambling influencers from influencing gamblers into gambling, I don't think this will work. Gamblers only need to understand gambling to avoid being victims of gambling influencers who can lead them to become addicted to gambling.

[TheUltraElite]

Why on earth will the government spend their resources to control influencers? Moreover they will use this as a source to produce a "Against free speech" propaganda and become even more forceful.

The easier method is to teach each other about the bad effect that influencers have on products and services and how they are misguiding people into gambling. That way those who are wise enough will stop before they start or at least control their gambling habit.

Self-discipline is the method to go with here. Dont depend on the government, they are more interested in banning something only when they have an upcoming tax to impose on them.

[Vaculin]

Why on earth will the government spend their resources to control influencers? Moreover they will use this as a source to produce a "Against free speech" propaganda and become even more forceful.

The government usually steps in only when something illegal is already happening, and even then it’s more about setting limits and guidelines, not throwing influencers in jail.

We’ve seen this before in our country when gambling ads became too aggressive, billboards were everywhere, and the government stepped in to limit it so it wouldn’t heavily target poorer people, and that move actually made sense. But on social media, influencers get more leeway since it’s not government-owned and free speech still applies, which is why a lot of them push the limits knowing they’re unlikely to face consequences as long as they technically stay within the law.

[TypoTonic]

We do have a 'government-owned and controlled' regulatory commission (PAGCOR)...

This I have seen for the first time here, but when I click on 'PAGCOR' nothing happens, so what's point of the 'acronym' tag, or is it because I am on mobile so it doesn't work!?

It stands for the "Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation". They are the ones responsible for monitoring gambling advertisements in our country, apart from casino licensing and regulation of course. As for the acronym tag, I think it's useless on mobile. It works only on desktop, since you need to hover the mouse pointer over it to see the tooltip.

[libert19]

We do have a 'government-owned and controlled' regulatory commission (PAGCOR)...

This I have seen for the first time here, but when I click on 'PAGCOR' nothing happens, so what's point of the 'acronym' tag, or is it because I am on mobile so it doesn't work!?

It stands for the "Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation".

Yes, I, did see what it stands for when I quoted the comment.

As for the acronym tag, I think it's useless on mobile. It works only on desktop, since you need to hover the mouse pointer over it to see the tooltip.

Right. Thanks for telling.

PS: TIL acronym tag, and sounds useful one (for pc users at  least ).

[sompitonov]

Why on earth will the government spend their resources to control influencers? Moreover they will use this as a source to produce a "Against free speech" propaganda and become even more forceful.

The government usually steps in only when something illegal is already happening, and even then it’s more about setting limits and guidelines, not throwing influencers in jail.

We’ve seen this before in our country when gambling ads became too aggressive, billboards were everywhere, and the government stepped in to limit it so it wouldn’t heavily target poorer people, and that move actually made sense. But on social media, influencers get more leeway since it’s not government-owned and free speech still applies, which is why a lot of them push the limits knowing they’re unlikely to face consequences as long as they technically stay within the law.

Perhaps this makes sense in some cases, as the impact can become increasingly significant, which is unacceptable, especially when the gap between rich and poor reaches significant levels. Of course, in such cases, additional regulations for such individuals could be considered; perhaps even increasing their income tax or allocating it to social needs that are essential for improving the lives of citizens and the general public. Perhaps this money could help those suffering from large losses in the advanced stages of gambling addiction.

[Doan9269]

there's nothing they can do about gambling influencers, they are only making the necessary promotions they know how to do best, it is left for us in deciding on what to go for and not, government regulations does not expend down to their own part, because they are independent promoters.

This is not because the government cannot regulate such, but there is much to do and spend time on than things like this and later achieve nothing at the end, its also part of why it very difficult to regulate gambling.

[qwertyup23]

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I'm starting to question this.
Does your country regulate gambling influencers, and can they be restricted by preventing them from providing signals or invitations to bet indiscriminately?

Yes- given that online gambling has been steadily increasing in popularity, the government of the Philippines has started to regulate its advertisements by starting with taking down billboards which promote gambling indiscriminately. Additionally, the government prohibited its advertisements made by random influencers promoting false rates and fake online gambling platforms.

If not, should we propose to the government to regulate these influencers so they don't easily engage in such activities without clear standards, such as betting classes, etc.? This could be reduced if the government took more action in enforcing regulations against those who influence gamblers.

The government should always have an interest in the welfare of its citizens because ultimately it will also affect them in the process.

The promotion of gambling throughout a given country should be regulated to the point that it should prohibit its distribution to the younger generation. If it comes to a point that the youth are affected by this, then that will be the time for the government to exercise its police power and absolutely regulate gambling establishments and websites.

[XOOMBOX]

I believe that gambling should be subject to regulation, as there are far too many cases where people end up in serious financial trouble because of it. This is especially true when it comes to minors.Of course, a large part of the responsibility lies with parents, but the authorities should also develop social programs to help children understand and recognize the manipulative techniques used in gambling, and not only in gambling.

Gambling is not just a matter of personal decision but is also deeply linked to psychological vulnerability and social influence. Young people are easily influenced, especially when gambling is presented as an easy way to earn money through online platforms and influencers and simply blaming parents will not solve the problem, as parents are often not sufficiently informed about these digital strategies.

The state and relevant authorities should be responsible for developing financial awareness and critical thinking within the education system so that children and adolescents can recognize advertising, tempting offers or influencer marketing. In addition, strict controls should be placed on gambling promotion and sponsorship to reduce social harm.

[Wakate]

I believe that gambling should be subject to regulation, as there are far too many cases where people end up in serious financial trouble because of it. This is especially true when it comes to minors.Of course, a large part of the responsibility lies with parents, but the authorities should also develop social programs to help children understand and recognize the manipulative techniques used in gambling, and not only in gambling.

Gambling is already being regulated by the government but we should not expect the government to do everything for us here where parents have crucial roles to play in the lives of the young ones coming up so that don't become a severe problem in the society soon. The government has their own role to play while parents also have their own role to play in their lives of the young ones.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Why on earth will the government spend their resources to control influencers? Moreover they will use this as a source to produce a "Against free speech" propaganda and become even more forceful.

Perhaps if there are a lot of concerns in this so called influencers. They are growing big, so there will be a time that it's going to be hard to control them. And if the population is affected negatively, they the authorities will have to step in.

The easier method is to teach each other about the bad effect that influencers have on products and services and how they are misguiding people into gambling. That way those who are wise enough will stop before they start or at least control their gambling habit.

It's not that easy, that's why they are called influencers, as they can make gambling looks like normal to ordinary people. And there are a lot of risk, like exposure to the young and underage.

Self-discipline is the method to go with here. Dont depend on the government, they are more interested in banning something only when they have an upcoming tax to impose on them.

Of course, self discipline is the key. But it' very hard to do it if you permanently see it in your social media. And it's going to be a very hard battle along the way to fight it out and never be influence.

[Akbarkoe]

From what I've read in this thread, the Philippines has comprehensive regulations regarding the content I create. I apologize if I've missed anything.

Many say the government is unlikely to take this stance because it would be detrimental to them after the taxes they must pay. They would have tax reductions if they tightened everything related to gambling, even though gamblers who play are also subject to taxes here, from transaction taxes to winning taxes (if applicable). As a taxpayer in a country that allows gambling, I would certainly suggest that the government not allow for misleading media outlets promoting casinos or various other types of fraud, such as signal groups that require payment, etc, because this would be detrimental to consumers, unless they are licensed or certified as professional gamblers and are permitted to do such things. It would be safer under government oversight.

Why on earth will the government spend their resources to control influencers? Moreover they will use this as a source to produce a "Against free speech" propaganda and become even more forceful.

The easier method is to teach each other about the bad effect that influencers have on products and services and how they are misguiding people into gambling. That way those who are wise enough will stop before they start or at least control their gambling habit.

Self-discipline is the method to go with here. Dont depend on the government, they are more interested in banning something only when they have an upcoming tax to impose on them.

Logically the government should protect its citizens from anything that could harm them, using resources would not be a problem, after all discussing regulations or laws like this would not cost much at the parliamentary table.

If it only depends on the consumer then it will be very difficult because such knowledge will be difficult to spread in the community and certainly this will take more resources if it is like that, this is not efficient, the government must take part in curbing irresponsible influencers who are trying to deceive the public or gamblers in particular, we must be really aware of situations like this so that these inflencers who or have the intention of wanting to cheat with such things can be minimized.