Can war make a country legalize gambling

[DrBeer]

The simple conclusion is that, in this example, legalizing casinos and the gambling business will not yield any noticeable results, since additional fees and taxes can only be collected if “the law is signed in the morning and by lunchtime there are casinos on every corner across the country.” But there is a second problem: the solvent population or TOURISTS who will bring money to the casinos. As far as I can tell from the news, the population has become significantly poorer and is concerned with saving money on food, so in this situation, they will clearly not be interested in casino games. Will RICH tourists come to Russia? Well, that's the stuff of fantasy...

So what's the reality? Less than a few weeks have passed since this idea was first voiced, and now a decision has been made in one Russian region.

""The Last Straw of Public Patience": Altai Authorities Approved the Creation of a Gambling Zone Despite Thousands of Resident Signatures

The United Russia-controlled Altai Republic Parliament approved the creation of a gambling zone in the region. Governor Andrei Turchak supported the casino near the Manzherok resort, controlled by Sberbank. Meanwhile, local activists, community leaders, and politicians collected thousands of signatures against it.

Deputies approved the federal bill on a gambling zone in Altai. The State Duma will soon adopt it.

The decision coincided with a multi-billion-dollar government contract in the Altai Mountains, which was won by a company associated with Arkady Rotenberg, SibExpress has learned."


As I've written before, the budget deficit is so severe that such decisions will be made with lightning speed. This is just the beginning. Now other regions will follow suit. Will this save the economy? No, it won't. The volume is nowhere near what's needed.

That is, developing its own economy, science, production, technology, conducting mutually beneficial trade or economic collaborations, improving the standard of living of its population, improving the health of its population, creating projects that guarantee future generations a comfortable and high-quality life—no, this is not for Russia, none of this has any value.
 What is valuable to them is power, terror, and violence, destroying the lives of others, and then trying to squeeze the last money out of the pockets of the remnants of their population to wage war against a small country in order to preserve their power. It feels like a “bad fairy tale,” but unfortunately, this is our reality.

[Fortify]

Online gambling has been illegal in Russia since 2009, but because of the growing budget deficit brought by on going war against Ukraine, officials are proposing to legalize online gambling.

But even if online gambling is illegal, the industry still made a $39 billion profit; just imagine the profit from taxes it would make if gambling were legal.

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

In an effort to bolster state revenues amid a growing budget deficit, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov has proposed the legalization of online casinos. The plan, presented to President Vladimir Putin, aims to provide a new source of income to offset the rising costs of the war against Ukraine. Siluanov’s suggestion, reported by Kommersant, aims to draw illegal online gamblers into the legal market, while also introducing stringent safeguards to curb addiction.

Sounds like a desperate leader who is both trying to raise funds from the meager amount of currency their citizens have left in circulation and also leading those same people to desperation which can of course be answered by joining the army to become part of the endless meat shields that are sent to die for him. If Russia was in any way normal it would have been legal before the war and people would have been free to spend their money on this form of entertainment. Most countries would find more useful things to do during a war that they are inflicting for no reason against their neighbor and now the death toll is growing exponentially I guess that any kind of distraction so there is no uprising against the Russian government is the aim.

[fruktik]

That is, developing its own economy, science, production, technology, conducting mutually beneficial trade or economic collaborations, improving the standard of living of its population, improving the health of its population, creating projects that guarantee future generations a comfortable and high-quality life—no, this is not for Russia, none of this has any value.
 What is valuable to them is power, terror, and violence, destroying the lives of others, and then trying to squeeze the last money out of the pockets of the remnants of their population to wage war against a small country in order to preserve their power. It feels like a “bad fairy tale,” but unfortunately, this is our reality.

If you look at the entire history of Russia, you won't find a single period when anything good was done for the people. The government did nothing but rob and terrorize the people. That's where its role ended.

And what about now? The time has come when money is desperately needed to maintain and hold on to power. Legalizing casinos will be the beginning. They'll squeeze every last drop out of this sector. Just give it free rein.

[DrBeer]

That is, developing its own economy, science, production, technology, conducting mutually beneficial trade or economic collaborations, improving the standard of living of its population, improving the health of its population, creating projects that guarantee future generations a comfortable and high-quality life—no, this is not for Russia, none of this has any value.
 What is valuable to them is power, terror, and violence, destroying the lives of others, and then trying to squeeze the last money out of the pockets of the remnants of their population to wage war against a small country in order to preserve their power. It feels like a “bad fairy tale,” but unfortunately, this is our reality.

If you look at the entire history of Russia, you won't find a single period when anything good was done for the people. The government did nothing but rob and terrorize the people. That's where its role ended.

And what about now? The time has come when money is desperately needed to maintain and hold on to power. Legalizing casinos will be the beginning. They'll squeeze every last drop out of this sector. Just give it free rein.

There were attempts, but they were all short-lived and ended very badly for the population. For example, during the NEP period, when private business appeared, it became possible to own means of production, make a profit, and develop one's business. BUT... it all ended badly.
Although at the beginning of the 20th century, the Russian economy was one of the fastest growing in Europe for a certain period... But not for long, and we all know how it ended.
One gets the feeling that development, progress, and freedom are concepts that have always been hostile to Russia
I can even call Medvedev's reign a kind of liberal vector of Russia's development. He even began to “tighten the screws” on the security forces... but... and this “evaporated before our eyes”

[fruktik]

There were attempts, but they were all short-lived and ended very badly for the population. For example, during the NEP period, when private business appeared, it became possible to own means of production, make a profit, and develop one's business. BUT... it all ended badly.
Although at the beginning of the 20th century, the Russian economy was one of the fastest growing in Europe for a certain period... But not for long, and we all know how it ended.
One gets the feeling that development, progress, and freedom are concepts that have always been hostile to Russia
I can even call Medvedev's reign a kind of liberal vector of Russia's development. He even began to “tighten the screws” on the security forces... but... and this “evaporated before our eyes”

What kind of free, independent entrepreneur or businessman is he, someone who has the right to spend money as he sees fit? Such a person is a threat to the government that has usurped it. This is the main reason why many attempts to "loosen the screws" have failed. And this will continue over and over again until people's mentality changes. Could this happen? Yes, but it will take more than one generation. Therefore, don't expect a quick change in the current course.

[imthegreat]

. Siluanov’s suggestion, reported by Kommersant, aims to draw illegal online gamblers into the legal market, while also introducing stringent safeguards to curb addiction.

The war consumes a lot of money and the situation with the introduction of the legalization of gambling will not affect the fact that the state will receive additional money from the gambling industry. Betting is allowed, online gambling is widespread, and every student knows how to access casino sites using blocking methods. Plus, there are plenty of gambling zones in Russia, and these are not only Krasnaya Polyana in Sochi and Kaliningrad, but also several other zones. Therefore, these mechanisms have been in operation for a long time, and people gamble without problems. I'm not talking about the fact that gambling is allowed in many border countries, such as in Belarus. Crowds of Russians go there to play. In general, this topic is not worth developing, because the legalization of gambling will not change the economic situation for the better.

[HustleZ]

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

I don't know what decision he will take regarding allowing Gambling but if he does it just because of War then it Will become a "Desperation Tax" and when used just for funding a war there will be serious flaws and will hurt the country more than it helps. In war zone people are already stressed and poor and gambling look attractive to them which leads to addiction and their Situations getting worse. Gambling looks Attractive but it's like a Poison, it kills slowly but gives dopamine time to time so someone does not take a tonic till he is Fully dead. In the End, the government might get some quick cash but They risk even more poverty, higher crime and a heartbroken public that no longer trusts its leaders.

[Youngrebel]

Online gambling has been illegal in Russia since 2009, but because of the growing budget deficit brought by on going war against Ukraine, officials are proposing to legalize online gambling.

But even if online gambling is illegal, the industry still made a $39 billion profit; just imagine the profit from taxes it would make if gambling were legal.

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

In an effort to bolster state revenues amid a growing budget deficit, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov has proposed the legalization of online casinos. The plan, presented to President Vladimir Putin, aims to provide a new source of income to offset the rising costs of the war against Ukraine. Siluanov’s suggestion, reported by Kommersant, aims to draw illegal online gamblers into the legal market, while also introducing stringent safeguards to curb addiction.

Russia Considers Legalizing Online Casinos Amid Financial Strain

Its very much possible for a country to do that. Because ifva country is in war theres every possibility that there will be restricted movement,  limited supply of food and even source of livelihood will be affected as people will not be able to go about their daily affairs  to get daily income, especially those who are skilled wirkers. This inturn will cause starvation and hunger, people would look for other digital means of getting money from home which will now require digital skills. Offcourse gambling is one thing that is always accessible and most people do it. So the government can put all of those into consideration and make acceptable in the country in general

[xenomorfo]

The war consumes a lot of money and the situation with the introduction of the legalization of gambling will not affect the fact that the state will receive additional money from the gambling industry. Betting is allowed, online gambling is widespread, and every student knows how to access casino sites using blocking methods. Plus, there are plenty of gambling zones in Russia, and these are not only Krasnaya Polyana in Sochi and Kaliningrad, but also several other zones. Therefore, these mechanisms have been in operation for a long time, and people gamble without problems. I'm not talking about the fact that gambling is allowed in many border countries, such as in Belarus. Crowds of Russians go there to play. In general, this topic is not worth developing, because the legalization of gambling will not change the economic situation for the better.

I believe that in the case of war, what should I tell you? Gambling is obviously decreasing because we all have other thoughts and other worries and certainly, given that it is an entertainment, spending money for entertainment when there are much worse things at stake, I really don't think is the case. So I honestly think that in the case of war the game stops, it becomes much much less.

[Glowy]

Online gambling has been illegal in Russia since 2009, but because of the growing budget deficit brought by on going war against Ukraine, officials are proposing to legalize online gambling.

But even if online gambling is illegal, the industry still made a $39 billion profit; just imagine the profit from taxes it would make if gambling were legal.

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

In an effort to bolster state revenues amid a growing budget deficit, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov has proposed the legalization of online casinos. The plan, presented to President Vladimir Putin, aims to provide a new source of income to offset the rising costs of the war against Ukraine. Siluanov’s suggestion, reported by Kommersant, aims to draw illegal online gamblers into the legal market, while also introducing stringent safeguards to curb addiction.

Russia Considers Legalizing Online Casinos Amid Financial Strain




Well, it appears to be an option somewhere, if the war has to be sustained we all know the government need some good funding. If the available resources begin to thin, gray areas get called up. Maybe that will eventually be the case who knows

[Satofan44]

Sounds like a desperate leader who is both trying to raise funds from the meager amount of currency their citizens have left in circulation and also leading those same people to desperation which can of course be answered by joining the army to become part of the endless meat shields that are sent to die for him. If Russia was in any way normal it would have been legal before the war and people would have been free to spend their money on this form of entertainment. Most countries would find more useful things to do during a war that they are inflicting for no reason against their neighbor and now the death toll is growing exponentially I guess that any kind of distraction so there is no uprising against the Russian government is the aim.

Totally, and your useless shithole of a country is a superpower and doing fantastically. It is a clear display of superiority when its citizens repeat the most basic western propaganda as it gets. None of what you have written is correct, and the Ukrainian shithole is already mostly pulverized. If they weren't forcefully kidnapping people there would be nobody left to defend it years ago. Don't worry though, next week the same boy actor will appear yet again in a show about his deceased father who died in the war.

If you look at the entire history of Russia, you won't find a single period when anything good was done for the people. The government did nothing but rob and terrorize the people. That's where its role ended.

And what about now? The time has come when money is desperately needed to maintain and hold on to power. Legalizing casinos will be the beginning. They'll squeeze every last drop out of this sector. Just give it free rein.

The same or worse is happening in every country that you consider to be a good country. You are just a naive fool that is unable to face the reality. Go ahead and take your daily dose of MSM propaganda 3rd world pajeet, you barely have any IQ points to lose anyway. 

I don't know what decision he will take regarding allowing Gambling but if he does it just because of War then it Will become a "Desperation Tax" and when used just for funding a war there will be serious flaws and will hurt the country more than it helps. In war zone people are already stressed and poor and gambling look attractive to them which leads to addiction and their Situations getting worse. Gambling looks Attractive but it's like a Poison, it kills slowly but gives dopamine time to time so someone does not take a tonic till he is Fully dead. In the End, the government might get some quick cash but They risk even more poverty, higher crime and a heartbroken public that no longer trusts its leaders.

Nobody has any proof that this has anything to do with the war. Occasional statements by some people within a very large group of people are not proof of anything, they are hearsay at best.

I believe that in the case of war, what should I tell you? Gambling is obviously decreasing because we all have other thoughts and other worries and certainly, given that it is an entertainment, spending money for entertainment when there are much worse things at stake, I really don't think is the case. So I honestly think that in the case of war the game stops, it becomes much much less.

Gambling is decreasing? In what fantasy world are you living in? The last decade was all about a massive increase in gambling, the traditional and many modern methods such as loot boxes. When times are tough, more people turn to gambling in their desperation to turn around their own situation. We know that it does not work out well, but people who are dumb enough to listen to mainstream propaganda are dumb enough to try turning their luck around with gambling.

[Oluwa-btc]

But even if online gambling is illegal, the industry still made a $39 billion profit; just imagine the profit from taxes it would make if gambling were legal.

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

I think due to the outrage of the war and a drop in their fiscal budget there's a possibility that gambling legalization would take effect because with an ongoing analytical check on datas it's more certain that it'll definitely yield massive profits to cover up for their loses but  then Putin decision on the legalization of gambling industry to fit up with the economy might actually be considered.

[fruktik]

The same or worse is happening in every country that you consider to be a good country. You are just a naive fool that is unable to face the reality. Go ahead and take your daily dose of MSM propaganda 3rd world pajeet, you barely have any IQ points to lose anyway. 

The thing is, I don't trust the media one bit. To get a more detailed understanding of a specific situation or issue, I browse and read several sources I trust. These are the ones that have proven themselves to be reliable and truthful. These are the ones that don't rely on government funding, meaning they're completely independent.

Yes, there are countries where the situation is much worse, and I'm aware of it. But we're talking about Russia right now. I'm interested in that country.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

I don't know what decision he will take regarding allowing Gambling but if he does it just because of War then it Will become a "Desperation Tax" and when used just for funding a war there will be serious flaws and will hurt the country more than it helps. In war zone people are already stressed and poor and gambling look attractive to them which leads to addiction and their Situations getting worse. Gambling looks Attractive but it's like a Poison, it kills slowly but gives dopamine time to time so someone does not take a tonic till he is Fully dead. In the End, the government might get some quick cash but They risk even more poverty, higher crime and a heartbroken public that no longer trusts its leaders.

Just few notes here, governments are always desperate when it comes to collecting tax, knowing full well their salaries and spending for their extravagant lifestyle depends on those taxes, so they are always desperate do collect taxes.
And secondly, a country that is in the middle of war is already flawed and the country itself and the economy is already in deep hurt, and at this stage or moment, what they use money collected through whatever means for is no longer an issue, after all, the country have been spending money funding the war, what makes the money they made from gambling taxes different from other money?

So it's basically the same thing, no different, if they have been spending money earned from other sources on the war, the government legalizing gambling and making money from casinos they are collecting tax from and spending it on the war is no different because as I said before, what ever negative impact that will arise from this has or is already present in the country, it's nothing new.

[DrBeer]

There were attempts, but they were all short-lived and ended very badly for the population. For example, during the NEP period, when private business appeared, it became possible to own means of production, make a profit, and develop one's business. BUT... it all ended badly.
Although at the beginning of the 20th century, the Russian economy was one of the fastest growing in Europe for a certain period... But not for long, and we all know how it ended.
One gets the feeling that development, progress, and freedom are concepts that have always been hostile to Russia
I can even call Medvedev's reign a kind of liberal vector of Russia's development. He even began to “tighten the screws” on the security forces... but... and this “evaporated before our eyes”

What kind of free, independent entrepreneur or businessman is he, someone who has the right to spend money as he sees fit? Such a person is a threat to the government that has usurped it. This is the main reason why many attempts to "loosen the screws" have failed. And this will continue over and over again until people's mentality changes. Could this happen? Yes, but it will take more than one generation. Therefore, don't expect a quick change in the current course.

Moses led the Jews through the desert for 40 years so that new people would be born, free from the slave mentality. Russia, given what they have done to their heritage, will probably have to lead the Russians through Antarctica for 200 years, after which they will likely lose their slave mentality, imperial ambitions, and other consequences of a totalitarian regime with elements of Nazism.

[fruktik]

Moses led the Jews through the desert for 40 years so that new people would be born, free from the slave mentality. Russia, given what they have done to their heritage, will probably have to lead the Russians through Antarctica for 200 years, after which they will likely lose their slave mentality, imperial ambitions, and other consequences of a totalitarian regime with elements of Nazism.

Let them walk around the entire equator of Mars several times. It will still change little if the political system itself is set up to suppress human rights and freedoms.

And the truth was once told about the genetic code. What does it consist of? Slave thinking and groveling before the "strong" at the highest echelons of power. And also before the most humble boss who imagines himself the center of the universe. Nothing will change radically as long as these concepts prevail in Russian society.

[justdimin]

Online gambling has been illegal in Russia since 2009, but because of the growing budget deficit brought by on going war against Ukraine, officials are proposing to legalize online gambling.

But even if online gambling is illegal, the industry still made a $39 billion profit; just imagine the profit from taxes it would make if gambling were legal.

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

I would say "gambling" isn't a money maker for the nation unless you bring in tourists. People who are your own citizens gambling within each other isn't a money maker, you just take money from one person and give it to another person and that doesn't help with the war efforts.

What you need is other nations to come to you and gamble, places like Monaco, Las Vegas and similar places with famous gambling can do that because they bring in tourists as well, but if Russia doing that today, how many of you willing to go to Russia just to gamble? I would not. Whatever can be a reason for a government to support the gambling industry but who is going to spend on your gambling is a major criteria here that you need to bother before considering gambling industry as money maker for a country.

[goldkingcoiner]

Online gambling has been illegal in Russia since 2009, but because of the growing budget deficit brought by on going war against Ukraine, officials are proposing to legalize online gambling.

But even if online gambling is illegal, the industry still made a $39 billion profit; just imagine the profit from taxes it would make if gambling were legal.

What do you think, will Putin allow the legalization of gambling just to sustain the economy, and sustain the war against Ukraine

In an effort to bolster state revenues amid a growing budget deficit, Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov has proposed the legalization of online casinos. The plan, presented to President Vladimir Putin, aims to provide a new source of income to offset the rising costs of the war against Ukraine. Siluanov’s suggestion, reported by Kommersant, aims to draw illegal online gamblers into the legal market, while also introducing stringent safeguards to curb addiction.

Russia Considers Legalizing Online Casinos Amid Financial Strain

A country that is in dire need of more money will always try to bleed out their citizens out of every penny in their pocket. Although gambling might be an inconspicuous way to do it, it is not efficient as for example raising tax.

Although if you ask me, I think the online casino legalization for war funds is just an excuse and has nothing to do with war funding. At least not directly. Probably just special interest groups trying to get their way.

[KTChampions]

If you look at the entire history of Russia, you won't find a single period when anything good was done for the people. The government did nothing but rob and terrorize the people. That's where its role ended.
~

Damn, so true! 
When I hear people from other countries say, "I wish I could go back to the old days" or "things were better back then," I realize that in our country, the past is just as bleak as the future. I literally can't imagine a time I'd like to return to (except for something as simple and obvious as going back just a little bit to buy 10,000 bitcoins for a pizza). And yes, right now our government is hastily raising taxes, confiscating businesses, squeezing money out of people by any means necessary just to continue the damn war.

[JunaidAzizi]

If you look at the entire history of Russia, you won't find a single period when anything good was done for the people. The government did nothing but rob and terrorize the people. That's where its role ended.
~

Damn, so true! 
When I hear people from other countries say, "I wish I could go back to the old days" or "things were better back then," I realize that in our country, the past is just as bleak as the future. I literally can't imagine a time I'd like to return to (except for something as simple and obvious as going back just a little bit to buy 10,000 bitcoins for a pizza). And yes, right now our government is hastily raising taxes, confiscating businesses, squeezing money out of people by any means necessary just to continue the damn war.

The above post you quoted is just an extreme and one sided view that ignores many realities of the Russian government. I am not disagreeing that Russia has a plenty of dark ages with repression and suffering, but there are good works like massive industrialization, universal education, healthcare, and a lot more. I don't know why he says, "you won't find a single period."

And for the current time, your country is in a big fight with the superpowers, and war needs money, for which your government raises taxes. That's a simple understandin, if your country doesn't stand, Enemy will be on your front door, which is a danger to your state boundaries and sovereignty.