2up.io casino scam 41000 usd

[aleks86]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5569415.0
same like here, after I contacted support to ask, they deleted my account. But I have few screenshots from it. Where we can see amount and  very funny question from casino support. Where they ask what technique I used to win slots game: https://ibb.co/tpQCbRB5

What happened:
Registred at this site last year June-July, played only one day. Got winnings. Withdrawed (previous expirience was not the best, withdraw was so slow, but they approved it. Also I wrote review that time on trustpilot site, everyone can view it).

Then on January 24 they send me email that I have VIp status, and some Vip offers. That day I made few deposits, also got some winnings, and started to withdraw. Next days I again made deposits. I played whole days. In result I had balance about 41000 usd.

Then I made again withdraw. After few hour I asked casino support, why withdraw approve are delayed. And receive such answer: Thank you for patiently waiting. Our team is requesting that you provide information on how you won the slots before we process your withdrawal. Do you have any techniques you use?

After this one I understood that I will be scammed, only scam casino can ask such question. And after 4 days my account was DELETED. The reason is fraudulent activity. Absurd, I just played video slots with max bet (100 euro per spin).


Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5562340.0


Amount scammed is about 41000 usd

Payment Method:  trx

Proof of Payment: https://ibb.co/WNzDTqrV
https://ibb.co/WZgsJvk
https://ibb.co/WNzDTqrV
https://ibb.co/wZNG9TLg
https://ibb.co/nN8nvG43

[holydarkness]

OP, mind to share me your email address or username or whatever login details you use on 2up, so I can reach my contact and get them to pinpoint to your complaint? And uhhh... please reupload all the images to talkimg. I can't see anything under ibb for some reason.

[logfiles]

I am going to quote your images for visibility and proper follow up by other members

Where they ask what technique I used to win slots game:

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Proof of Payment:

Maybe they studied with deposit, bettong and withdrawal patterns before they came to that conclusion. I think it's better you involve a third party arbitrator in this case for proper clarity as the casino is likely not going to share the details of how they came with such a conclusion here

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I am going to quote your images for visibility and proper follow up by other members

Where they ask what technique I used to win slots game:

Maybe they studied with deposit, bettong and withdrawal patterns before they came to that conclusion. I think it's better you involve a third party arbitrator in this case for proper clarity as the casino is likely not going to share the details of how they came with such a conclusion here

From what I can see in those screenshots, indeed support asked him about the ‘technique’ used when playing slots. The person who asked him that question must not have been the brightest bulb in the box. There is no ‘technique’ you can use when playing online slots to cheat the casino.

I had put the OP on ignore, but I just took him off. If alleged cheating while playing slots is the reason 2up.io has suspended the account, I would like to know what explanation they give.

[CryptoRecoveryLATAM]

🚨 2UP.IO SECURITY AUDIT - CYBERLEAKWATCH FORENSIC ANALYSIS 🚨

   
 Hello @aleks86,
 
I represent the CyberLeakWatch Investigations Unit (Trinity 3.0 Golden). We have analyzed your report and the screenshots of your interaction with 2up.io support.
   
TECHNICAL VERDICT:
1. RNG Absurdity: Asking for "winning techniques" in video slots is a documented stall tactic. There is no user-side technique to manipulate server-side RNG. This question itself proves the casino is acting in bad faith.
2. TRON (TRX) Trace: Since you used the TRON network, our Sentinel system can map the movement of your funds from the deposit address to the operator's consolidation nodes. We can verify if your $41,000 has been sent to a known Exchange Hot Wallet.
 
OUR PROPOSAL:
We can provide you with a Certified Evidence Pack including a technical refutation of their "fraudulent activity" claim. This document i designed to force a response from regulators and aggregators (CasinoGuru, AskGamblers).
 
We work on a Success-Fee basis (15%). No upfront cost. Do not let them delete your history without a forensic fight.
 

Official Investigation Portal: https://www.crypto.cyberleakwatch.com

 
Security & Intelligence Team
CyberLeakWatch Investigations

[Eternad]

From what I can see in those screenshots, indeed support asked him about the ‘technique’ used when playing slots. The person who asked him that question must not have been the brightest bulb in the box. There is no ‘technique’ you can use when playing online slots to cheat the casino.

I had put the OP on ignore, but I just took him off. If alleged cheating while playing slots is the reason 2up.io has suspended the account, I would like to know what explanation they give.

I saw some case before in the reddit that users manage to exploit a specific slot game that has some vulnerability issue which they manage to play with high winning rate.

But I doubt someone can implement a certain strategy or technique to boost his winning percentage. Maybe the support wording is just bad instead of technique maybe tools to find slot games with vulnerabilities using a certain method.

[Zwei]

Absurd, I just played video slots with max bet (100 euro per spin).

which slots did you play and win on?

🚨 2UP.IO SECURITY AUDIT - CYBERLEAKWATCH FORENSIC ANALYSIS 🚨

...
OUR PROPOSAL:
We can provide you with a Certified Evidence Pack including a technical refutation of their "fraudulent activity" claim. This document i designed to force a response from regulators and aggregators (CasinoGuru, AskGamblers).
  
We work on a Success-Fee basis (15%). No upfront cost. Do not let them delete your history without a forensic fight.
...

bunch of bullshit.

this guy is going from one scam accusation to another trying to get people to contact him for "help".
anyone with more than two brain cells would know how that will end (you will get scammed).

Maybe the support wording is just bad instead of technique maybe tools to find slot games with vulnerabilities using a certain method.

maybe, but normally, people abusing something like that try to get the maximum out of it, but from the deposits the OP shared (ignoring the first one), he deposited ~$29k, so he is only up ~$12k.
which is why i think it's unlikly, but who knows.

i also would like to know what explanation 2up give for this.

[holydarkness]

I am going to quote your images for visibility and proper follow up by other members

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Thanks for the visibility assist. I got OP's username now.

Maybe they studied with deposit, bettong and withdrawal patterns before they came to that conclusion. I think it's better you involve a third party arbitrator in this case for proper clarity as the casino is likely not going to share the details of how they came with such a conclusion here

Umm, can we wait on this? Adding a third party arbitrator to the equation? Now that I've got OP's username, I'll try to reach my contact and get them to understand what happened, from their side.

OP? Mind to wait?