Does self-exclusion actually work/help addicted gamblers ?

[Chibit01]

The title explained it all.. this question came from reading this thread When a casino refuses a self exclusion request

Now if someone is addicted to gambling and has been battling to get off the addiction, asking for you to get self-excluded from a casino might appear reasonable since you will be restricted from using the casino, as some turn your account to withdrawal-only mode, but what stops the person from creating another account with the same casino or even using another different casino and continuing gambling? If they can no longer use their favourite casino, the experience might be different, but we all know that, except for casino-specially developed games, every other game can be found out there on competitors' sites.

To me, the self-exclusion feature is just an option which a casino provides that makes it appear safe when you want to talk about promoting responsible gambling, but in reality the gambler is the one who is supposed to take responsibility for their own action. Unless the self-exclusion feature is applicable to all online casinos, once you apply in one, every other one will have to exclude you too automatically.

The real self-exclusion should happen within the gambler by disciplining him/herself and staying determined never to gamble again or seeking support from those who are close to them that can closely mark them, this is just my opinion.

[Stepstowealth]

To me, the self-exclusion feature is just an option which a casino provides that makes it appear safe when you want to talk about promoting responsible gambling, but in reality the gambler is the one who is supposed to take responsibility for their own action. Unless the self-exclusion feature is applicable to all online casinos, once you apply in one, every other one will have to exclude you too automatically.

It is likely a harder process deciding to open a new casino account after making the decision to stop gambling, and you self excluded from the casino you usually gamble in than just funding your existing account to gamble.
Within the time of sourcing for the casino to play on, you may change your mind. So the self-exclusion feature from your casino will only work if you want if to work, casinos cannot put a gun to your head to stop you from gambling if you really have not made up your mind to stop gambling.

[_act_]

Self-exclusion is only effective on land-based casinos and not online gambling sites. Fiat online gambling sites can be a bit more regulated but self-exclusion is not yet absolutely effective, not to talk of crypto casinos that people can gamble on many gambling sites without KYC verification which can make self-exclusion not possible.

If you want to stay away from gambling, self-exclusion is not what that is really important, what that is really important is you to learn how to stay away from gambling.

[Agbe]

I feel like self exclusion is an unnecessary option in any gambling platform, just my opinion though. self exclusion doesn't really help what really makes a gambler avoid getting addicted or recover from it is self discipline. A Gambler can choose to self exclude and then after somw days open a different account. The most important thing is for the gambler to actually be disciplined enough to stop totally.

[Joy- maker]

I don't think slef exclusion will be really that effective on someone who is deeply addicted to gambling, why because there are numerous gambling platform out there, so the person can easily switch to another gambling platform if he or she is self excluded from a particular platform. So for me, someone who addicted to gambling need a special treatment from a psychiatric therapist. Remember this person is someone who can't stop gambling despite he or she has experience several looses in gambling. So answer me do you really think that only self-exclusion can fix this type person?  I believe the answer is NO.

[Cantsay]

The real self-exclusion should happen within the gambler by disciplining him/herself and staying determined never to gamble again or seeking support from those who are close to them that can closely mark them, this is just my opinion.

I’ll like to state you that before a gambler brings himself or herself to self-exclude from the gambling sites, then they ought to be some form of determination to actually stop gambling addiction. If they simply just selfexclude without any real determination, then the probability of them doing what you described in your thread is extremely high. They can simply just search the web for a new site and get started within 20 minutes and continue their gambling activity there.

Self-exclusion is just there to help you trick your mind or probably help your mind see a reason to actually want to not gamble for sometime, that whole “so I have turned into someone who can’t even be committed and stay away from gambling after self-exclusion” will also help them move further from gambling. The gambler must be prepared for self-exclusion to be effective.

[coin-investor]

The real self-exclusion should happen within the gambler by disciplining him/herself and staying determined never to gamble again or seeking support from those who are close to them that can closely mark them, this is just my opinion.

Self-exclusion works if this is the only casino he chooses to play at. This does not apply to a gambler who is so addicted to gambling that he can play at any casino. If a gambler is a moderate gambler and tempted to play what he can't afford to lose, then exclusion will work.

But of course, if it's still on the person, if he really wants to stop, but a guy who wants to stop needs to get away from that temptation, so exclusion is one of the factors.

[Lida93]

I feel like self exclusion is an unnecessary option in any gambling platform, just my opinion though. self exclusion doesn't really help what really makes a gambler avoid getting addicted or recover from it is self discipline. A Gambler can choose to self exclude and then after somw days open a different account. The most important thing is for the gambler to actually be disciplined enough to stop totally.

Self exclusion in casino platforms is a necessity that should be made available in all casino sites even when it seems like it doesn't really help there are some gamblers who are making a right use of it therefore serving it purpose for them. I strong think that not all features in a casino site would be beneficially serving to all users as intended. Notwithstanding, self discipline is the ultimate of them all.

[Chibit01]

Self-exclusion is only effective on land-based casinos and not online gambling sites. Fiat online gambling sites can be a bit more regulated

I kind of agree with you here, it’s not like it will completely solve the problem but in land base casino since they have regulatory body someone with addiction problem should easily be identified each time they are asked to offer there ID for verification there should be a warning signal sent to the casino, or what ever means they want to use, just as the employed pattern used to tackle under age gambling.

I’ll like to state you that before a gambler brings himself or herself to self-exclude from the gambling sites, then they ought to be some form of determination to actually stop gambling addiction. If they simply just selfexclude without any real determination, then the probability of them doing what you described in your thread is extremely high. They can simply just search the web for a new site and get started within 20 minutes and continue their gambling activity there.

When someone is determined to stop gambling and they apply for self exclusion, that same lack of self control which push them to make another deposit into the same casino can still lead them to create account in another casino and continue gambling their, if self control is not there it’s hard self exclusion is just a useless feature for me to some certain extent.

[Yamifoud]

There are no addicted gamblers who want to lessen their gambling exposure and experience, except for those who have finally decided to quit gambling for good, but it would be a slow process though.

However, with self-exclusion, it would only be helpful if the addicted gambler will obey on it, but if he finds other means to still continue gambling, then I think it will be useless in the long run.

At the end of the day, your own eagerness and discipline will help you out get rid of gambling, but this is hard for most of these addicts as they won't even accept that they are gambling addicts, but are just gambling for fun in the casinos.

[Ivystar5]

To me, the self-exclusion feature is just an option which a casino provides that makes it appear safe when you want to talk about promoting responsible gambling, but in reality the gambler is the one who is supposed to take responsibility for their own action. Unless the self-exclusion feature is applicable to all online casinos, once you apply in one, every other one will have to exclude you too automatically.

For me I don't know how exactly this self exclusion is going to help because if I'm addicted how do you think I will exclude myself from what makes me happy or what I'm addicted to? that's impossible but for me I think it's just an excuse to exclude themselves (casino) from being held accountable for someone's addiction or something with that they can say you had the opportunity to self exclude if Yiu think the casino is making addicted in court just like you said too.

[Patikno]

Sometimes, I think the self-exclusion feature is only useful for users with strong intentions, or determination.

Suppose someone activates self-exclusion on their account, and then they can register an account on another gambling site, right? Well, then I think my point is correct. Basically, every gambler has the opportunity to continue gambling from anywhere, because there are various ways they can do it, and you should understand that control lies within each individual. If you fail to control yourself, then you have failed to be a responsible gambler. This is not meant to be an outcry, just a reminder. If you still feel you can control your gambling, especially when it comes to managing your money and time, then stick to it and limit your gambling, so you don't overstep your bounds. Prevention is better than cure, believe me.

[ryzaadit]

Self-exclusion is only effective on land-based casinos and not online gambling sites.

Agree.

The reason why, either the person register again to the same site with alt-account or they playing on other site. I must said very agree with these, land-base casino are the only way and effection to make your self getting a banned.

They can recognize you faster.

[Agbamoni]

If it were that helpful, many addicted gamblers would feel better now.

Self-exclusion can only be helpful for a short period of time. An addicted gambler can lift the exclusion or sign up in a new casino, as he continues the same behaviour. Self-exclusion has never helped anyone, not one that I know of.

[Cointxz]

It will work depending on the user self control itself because we all know that it can be bypassed easily by creating new account or changing the casino that he doesn’t yet self exclude.

There’s a lot of alternative choice available which means it’s up to the user itself if he will choose to stop his urge or continue gambling using alternative.

[rachael9385]

I cannot really speak for very gambler but it can be very helpful, it has helped a lot of gamblers dealing with addiction but the main question here is can addiction be stopped without it? empathically yes, it is very possible to stop gambling addiction without making use of this option all you have to do is be disciplined and work towards quitting,  it doesn't just happen in a day it's a gradual process.

[Sticky Bomb]

I don't think slef exclusion will be really that effective on someone who is deeply addicted to gambling, why because there are numerous gambling platform out there, so the person can easily switch to another gambling platform if he or she is self excluded from a particular platform. So for me, someone who addicted to gambling need a special treatment from a psychiatric therapist. Remember this person is someone who can't stop gambling despite he or she has experience several looses in gambling. So answer me do you really think that only self-exclusion can fix this type person?  I believe the answer is NO.

Any gambler that has lost control over their excessive gambling, I don't think self exclusion can do much for him. He would only go to the next casino, rinse and repeat and move on. Is only effective as long as the gamble in question has decided to work on himself and restrict his gambling activities and I doubt such a person needs self exclusion to control his gambling desires or stay away from the casino. This is why it's good to embrace responsible gambling early enough because when the person is very addicted, self exclusion does little or nothing to restrict the gambler.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Fiat online gambling sites can be a bit more regulated but self-exclusion is not yet absolutely effective, not to talk of crypto casinos that people can gamble on many gambling sites without KYC verification which can make self-exclusion not possible.

Self exclusion will never be possible on crypto casinos. First of all, physical casinos have a very different setting from the online casinos and it's much more difficult to walk away from a casino house that has swallowed thousands (if not millions) from your account already, than log out of a casino. I believe it's just one of those options that are just there for fancy, with which If a request is made, will be ignored.

If you want to stay away from gambling, self-exclusion is not what that is really important, what that is really important is you to learn how to stay away from gambling.

You're right! Best way to quit? Just by quitting gradually, or maybe just go cold turkey and find something else that fills up the gap. A month, 3 months, 8 months and you're done!

[LogitechMouse]

Re: Does self-exclusion actually work/help addicted gamblers ?

TBH, I've seen some here that are talking about self-exclusion on these gambling websites, but I'm also thinking, "How will it work for them?"

I'll give one scenario where I'm already addicted to gambling, but I want to stop already. I can request from a gambling website that they will self-exclude me on betting on their website and they did it. Now you felt again the urge to gamble because you're addicted, but instead of gambling on the website where they excluded you already, you can just go to a different gambling website, deposit money, and gamble yet again. Now the cycle keeps going on, and on, and on until... maybe until all of the gambling websites excluded you already, but it's almost impossible knowing how many gambling websites there are right now.

Self-exclusion might work for some, but for majority it will not. Instead of self-excluding ONLY, why don't we adjust our attitudes and our emotions as well? Why don't we seek help from family members and those experts? Why don't we put ourselves in a rehabilitation center? If we want to recover then there's a way. On the flip side, if you want to gamble and you're addicted, you will always find a way to do it.

[Wiwo]

I feel like self exclusion is an unnecessary option in any gambling platform, just my opinion though. self exclusion doesn't really help what really makes a gambler avoid getting addicted or recover from it is self discipline. A Gambler can choose to self exclude and then after somw days open a different account. The most important thing is for the gambler to actually be disciplined enough to stop totally.

Self exclusion option is not unnecessary entirely, but the problem is in the execution of that order from the sides of the team, what we have to know is that self exclusion is part of the licensing requirements from the government, so for that reason even the gambler may have the right to sue the casino if his demands to self exclude is not granted.