Do NOT use b1exch.to / b1ack exchange – funded by darknet carding & stolen VCC

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You won't hear it because $$100 from the campaign is more important to them

Please delete this part, it is not helpful and some users in the campaign are trustworthy so let's wait for their opinions.

This is precisely the reason why I will not engage in this discussion here. I have seen many times "earning from signature" as an argument, and I really will not discuss in that direction. I believe that I am not the only one with such an attitude.
There have already been attempts to go into more detail about this case, but it all ended in insults and "stf, I'm in right."

[DireWolfM14]

This is precisely the reason why I will not engage in this discussion here. I have seen many times "earning from signature" as an argument, and I really will not discuss in that direction. I believe that I am not the only one with such an attitude.
There have already been attempts to go into more detail about this case, but it all ended in insults and "stf, I'm in right."

It's the same argument that was often used against ChipMixer and the participants of their campaign.  And as in those arguments, lots of accusations with little substance and no evidence.  It's just a matter of time before we see an accusation claiming that b1exh is an NSA honeypot.

[DaveF]

This is precisely the reason why I will not engage in this discussion here. I have seen many times "earning from signature" as an argument, and I really will not discuss in that direction. I believe that I am not the only one with such an attitude.
There have already been attempts to go into more detail about this case, but it all ended in insults and "stf, I'm in right."

It's the same argument that was often used against ChipMixer and the participants of their campaign.  And as in those arguments, lots of accusations with little substance and no evidence.  It's just a matter of time before we see an accusation claiming that b1exh is an NSA honeypot.

But will it be a honeypot made from that sweet delicious honey comb from hives in the apple growing areas of NY?

Seriously, I did not know about this thread until someone pointed it out to me since I am wearing their sig at the moment.
There are a lot more exchanges / services like this all over. Just not advertised here.

Coming out and picking on just one shows it be more of an attack on them then anything else.

There are large(ish) exchanges that you can move $10k a day / $50k a month w/o KYC out there.
All you need is a VPN and an email address. It's not like services like this are hard to find.

-Dave

[DireWolfM14]

But will it be a honeypot made from that sweet delicious honey comb from hives in the apple growing areas of NY?

Mmm, as sweet as that is, I'm partial to the honey of Gravenstein blossoms of Sonoma, and wild poppies of West Marin.  But I digress.  No, these honeypots don't contain anything sweet in the slightest, they only tempt with the facade of sweetness that conceals the hornets ready to strike.

There are a lot more exchanges / services like this all over. Just not advertised here.

Coming out and picking on just one shows it be more of an attack on them then anything else.

There are large(ish) exchanges that you can move $10k a day / $50k a month w/o KYC out there.
All you need is a VPN and an email address. It's not like services like this are hard to find.

It's par for the course.  This happens to be one of the better paying campaigns on the forum at the moment.  If the OP's alt had been accepted into the campaign, we may have never seen this thread...  Not from him, anyway.

[hugeblack]

There have already been attempts to go into more detail about this case, but it all ended in insults and "stf, I'm in right."

The discussions were supposed to be about denying/proving b1ack's connection to darknet activities or denying/proving that the platform was funded by darknet carding and stolen VCCs. But it moved on to whoever deserved $100.

It's par for the course.  This happens to be one of the better paying campaigns on the forum at the moment.  If the OP's alt had been accepted into the campaign, we may have never seen this thread...  Not from him, anyway.

The funny thing is, if you go back to page 2, you'll find the same accusations against the campaign members; neither of them helps in reaching a conclusion.

[satscraper]

I don't know whether the OP’s findings are true or not, but I removed b1exch.to from my list of trusted swapping services after seeing its 1/100 safety score on Grindsoft.

Better to be safe than sorry, so I used to swap either through Changelly or ChangeHero, which are built‑in swap providers inside Tangem swapping engine. Everything goes through Tangem app on my smartphone after I sign relevant transaction with my Tangem HW, no KYC and no fraud issues at all.

P.S. For the same reason I chose not to apply for the relevant signature campaign on forum.

[TryNinja]

I don't know whether the OP’s findings are true or not, but I removed b1exch.to from my list of trusted swapping services after seeing its 1/100 safety score on Grindsoft.

Better to be safe than sorry, so I used to swap either through Changelly or ChangeHero, which are built‑in swap providers inside Tangem swapping engine. Everything goes through Tangem app on my smartphone after I sign relevant transaction with my Tangem HW, no KYC and no fraud issues at all.

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Wait, let me get this clear...

You're removing b1exch because "Grindsoft" marked it as a scam, while disregarding that they have a $20k escrow in place with icopress and on bitcointalk alone users have swapped over $90k through the swap frenzy contest in the last month? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5574574 / https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ONbbhJdd_ihHNO2hhn9P-NaHjkMOK_qJ4ibef2TtplE

And we should not use b1exch, but instead Changelly that is known for scamming users by holding coins hostage while demanding random KYC.

Also, completely disregard that Grindsoft is literally just using automated tools to give an arbitrary score to websites. For example, here is the reason why they give a low score to b1exch:

Gridinsoft evaluates b1exch.to, focusing on domain age (only 26 days old), limited website popularity, suspicious content indicators (Cryptocurrency - Risk, Low Scamadviser Score, Blacklisted), hosting technology and infrastructure, SSL certificate status, website reputation across multiple databases, customer reviews from various independent platforms. We weigh these indicators to calculate the trust score.

Note: Automated systems are not perfect — while the evidence suggests risk, there is still a chance the site is legitimate. We recommend you check the website using detailed analysis or by contacting the company directly through verified channels.

Basically:

1. Domain is new (since they migrated from the old .io to the new .to domain). Hmm... must be a scam, for sure.
2. Cryptocurrency is high risk, of course. Must be a scam.

Great job curating your list.

[satscraper]

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I wouldn’t expect any other response from someone who’s shilling this service.

Sure you’re free to do it, just as I’m free not to trust it.

And yes, you understood me correctly.

My rule of thumb is to never trust any crypto related entity ^{whether it’s a wallet, an exchange, a swapping service, you name it} unless it has proven itself over time. So far, that rule has kept my bitcoin safe.

One warning sign can be overlooked, but two are enough to make me uneasy.

Regarding Changelly, don’t shift the blame. As I mentioned, in Tangem ^{which is no‑KYC wallety[/sup Changelly ]doesn’t require KYC. You can gouge my eyes out if I’m lying about that.}

[TryNinja]

I wouldn’t expect any other response from someone who’s shilling this service.

We haven't heard this one before. Very creative.

I guess I should ignore the fact that you're using "Grindsoft" score as evidence because I use their signature, you got me there!

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Regarding Changelly, don’t shift the blame. As I mentioned, in Tangem ^{which is no‑KYC wallet Changelly}doesn’t require KYC. You can gouge my eyes out if I’m lying about that.

Lol, you're in for a big surprise.

When using the CEX swap providers, you may be required to complete the KYC (Know Your Customer) procedure. Whether KYC is necessary depends on each provider's terms of service.

Tangem cannot determine the KYC rules and is not responsible for services' actions, rules, security issues, etc.

It's your choice to trust a provider before using them. We intend to add more swap providers in the future to offer our users more options.

Source, Tangem: https://tangem.com/en/help-center/swap/

Or maybe:

https://tangem.com/en/blog/post/changelly-in-tangem/

Are there any limits on the amount of crypto I can swap through Tangem Wallet with Changelly?

While specific limits may apply, they vary based on factors like account verification. Check Changelly's terms of use and KYC/AML demands for the most accurate and up-to-date information on swap amount limits.

Very nice no KYC option you recommended

[satscraper]

https://tangem.com/en/blog/post/changelly-in-tangem/

Are there any limits on the amount of crypto I can swap through Tangem Wallet with Changelly?

While specific limits may apply, they vary based on factors like account verification. Check Changelly's terms of use and KYC/AML demands for the most accurate and up-to-date information on swap amount limits.

Very nice no KYC option you recommended

Probably you’re swapping millions?

I use Tangem to top up my crypto cards on the go to cover everyday shopping. So I usually swap no more than $500 at a time. No KYC for more than two years of use.

Yeah, if you’re swapping millions, then of course you’ll get hit with KYC. That’s fair enough.

And again, don’t shift the scam blame into KYC discussions. 1/100 score speaks for itself.

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And again, don’t shift the scam blame into KYC discussions. 1/100 score speaks for itself.

Don't embarrass yourself by referring to the automated scamadviser score. You're still trying to present this as a serious opinion. Most of the metrics by which they determine the scam score are completely irrelevant to that and prove absolutely nothing. If analysis and recognition functioned in such a way, today there would be no scams at all, or there would be a negligible number.

[noorman0]

I don't know whether the OP’s findings are true or not, but I removed b1exch.to from my list of trusted swapping services after seeing its 1/100 safety score on Grindsoft.

Gridinsoft operates with an automated scoring system, which sometimes produces ratings that contradict the facts, and site representatives are encouraged to report these errors for manual review. For example, see here. There are also a complaint on Trustpilot about similar scores received by b1exch.

This can occasionally happen if one of our antivirus partners intermittently flags your site as suspicious — especially if your domain is less than 3 months old.

See what Reputation summary b1exch has:

Reputation summary:
This site is classified as Cryptocurrency Scam based on multiple risk signals, including 2 blacklist detections, a very young domain (26 days), and no established public user-review history.

At one point, they were quite good at detecting scam sites, but I personally would have been more satisfied if I compared scores from several intelligence services and other reviews to arrive at a neutral and reasonable conclusion.

In any case, I respect your opinion and your choice to avoid b1exch, as well as your opinion about changelly, even though most users on this forum have opposing opinions. Different people and numbers will have different experiences.

[satscraper]

And again, don’t shift the scam blame into KYC discussions. 1/100 score speaks for itself.

Don't embarrass yourself by referring to the automated scamadviser score. You're still trying to present this as a serious opinion.

Well, but I'm not embarrassed about referring to ScamAdviser, because it was one of the warning signs. The second warning sign was provided by OP,

and as I already said in my previous post, one warning sign can be overlooked, but two are enough to make me cautious. Together they had a kind of synergistic effect on me which reinforced my decision to play safe.

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and as I already said in my previous post, one warning sign can be overlooked, but two are enough to make me cautious. Together they had a kind of synergistic effect on me which reinforced my decision to play safe.

So again, you rely on an automated check based on the age of the domain. You say two cases are enough for you, while at the same time, you (shilling) suggest Changelly, and it is enough to do just a short search and see many more than two scam accusations.
Here I have selected some for you
https://www.reddit.com/r/Changelly_Scam/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5563490.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2096696
https://www.fca.org.uk/news/warnings/changelly
https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/69c0d3ff68ebe78ee35eca0e
https://www.trustpilot.com/reviews/69bcedb1b85b8275cdafd976

[satscraper]

and as I already said in my previous post, one warning sign can be overlooked, but two are enough to make me cautious. Together they had a kind of synergistic effect on me which reinforced my decision to play safe.

So again, you rely on an automated check based on the age of the domain. You say two cases are enough for you, while at the same time, you (shilling) suggest Changelly, and it is enough to do just a short search and see many more than two scam accusations.

Nope, you’re wrong again.

Changelly, HeroChange ^{and several other services built into the Tangem swap engine} were just my casual remark that I might not even have made. Using those services for swapping is my personal choice, and I’m not forcing or promoting anyone to follow me unlike you, who wears signature that pushes others ^{including me right now} toward b1exch and gets paid weekly for it.

So you’re the shiller here, not me.

And once again, stop trying to shift the focus away from b1exch to something else. If you forgot what this thread is about, read the subject field. If you want to discuss Changelly, open the separate thread and I’ll gladly share my relevant experience there.

[dkbit98]

I don't know whether the OP’s findings are true or not, but I removed b1exch.to from my list of trusted swapping services after seeing its 1/100 safety score on Grindsoft.

I don't know what the fck is grindsoft, but they look like quick template website, and I sure won't trust them blindly without checking some proof for their claims.
I also never saw your ''list of trusted'' swapping services, but I never heard anyone I know complaining about b1ack exchange.

So you’re the shiller here, not me.

You are not shilling for closed source tangem devices anymore?  

[TryNinja]

and as I already said in my previous post, one warning sign can be overlooked, but two are enough to make me cautious. Together they had a kind of synergistic effect on me which reinforced my decision to play safe.

So again, you rely on an automated check based on the age of the domain. You say two cases are enough for you, while at the same time, you (shilling) suggest Changelly, and it is enough to do just a short search and see many more than two scam accusations.

Nope, you’re wrong again.

Changelly, HeroChange ^{and several other services built into the Tangem swap engine} were just my casual remark that I might not even have made. Using those services for swapping is my personal choice, and I’m not forcing or promoting anyone to follow me unlike you, who wears signature that pushes others ^{including me right now} toward b1exch and gets paid weekly for it.

So you’re the shiller here, not me.

And once again, stop trying to shift the focus away from b1exch to something else. If you forgot what this thread is about, read the subject field. If you want to discuss Changelly, open the separate thread and I’ll gladly share my relevant experience there.

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It's indeed embarassing that you didn't share anything new regarding the claims on the OP besides a "1/100 score" from an AI based scoring website that only considers the age of a domain + "it's crypto" = bad.

And then your entire defence when being called out is "you are using their signature, you are a shill", while not touching at the point of the post at all. Congrats bud.

You're free not to use b1exch or advise caution because of the claims on the OP, but when you come and make a post saying "look, they have a 1/100 score on Grindsoft, that's very bad", you can't really be taken seriously.

[joker_josue]

I only just joined this conversation, but it caught my attention because it's a brand I'm promoting.

Therefore, I read the topic and the arguments used, and looked at the images in detail.
In all this information, I only found two connections between "b1ack exchange" and "b1exch".

One connection is the OP's arguments.
Another one is this image (IMG1)

https://ibb.co/d0vSjygZ

But, when looking at the other images, there was one that caught my attention, in relation to the image I indicated above (IMG2):

https://ibb.co/tTp6xV2F

It is true that in image [IMG1] it can be seen that "b1ack" deleted the image content in the topic about "b1exch". But, from what I understand, this topic was not created by "b1ack", because according to image [IMG2] the author of the topic receives the "ADMIN" tag in their posts.

I'm not familiar with this forum or how it works, but that's my interpretation based on the content presented.

This alone does not make it clear that "b1exch" and "b1ack" are the same service or owned by the same person.

I can agree that the names are very similar. But I would also find it strange for a criminal to use practically the same name to create a new service, when it would be easily associated with you.

That being said, aside from the OP's claims, the images presented are not very enlightening regarding this connection between the names.

Either way, if the OP who frequents this forum can provide more details or information, that would be more interesting than just the information already given.



_{PS: Yes, I know I'm advertising the service; you don't need to point the finger at it in response. What I expect is more clarifying images to support your argument, because what you've presented is rather inconsistent.}

[FinneysTrueVision]

I only just joined this conversation, but it caught my attention because it's a brand I'm promoting.

Therefore, I read the topic and the arguments used, and looked at the images in detail.
In all this information, I only found two connections between "b1ack exchange" and "b1exch".

b1ack exchange is just the full name of b1exch, there is no controversy there. The OP’s argument was about b1ack’s Stash. I don’t know what kind of marketplace that is, but it is not something that is advertised here on Bitcointalk, which kind of weakens the argument they are trying to make. b1exch is not itself an illegal service and no evidence has been presented that it’s funded by illegal activity. The times that I have swapped there, the funds I received were traceable to legitimate sources, like THORchain.

[joker_josue]

I only just joined this conversation, but it caught my attention because it's a brand I'm promoting.

Therefore, I read the topic and the arguments used, and looked at the images in detail.
In all this information, I only found two connections between "b1ack exchange" and "b1exch".

b1ack exchange is just the full name of b1exch, there is no controversy there. The OP’s argument was about b1ack’s Stash. I don’t know what kind of marketplace that is, but it is not something that is advertised here on Bitcointalk, which kind of weakens the argument they are trying to make. b1exch is not itself an illegal service and no evidence has been presented that it’s funded by illegal activity. The times that I have swapped there, the funds I received were traceable to legitimate sources, like THORchain.

From what I understand, he claims that a user named "b1ack" also committed illegal acts on another forum.

So according to the OP, the "b1ack" from this forum is the same "b1ack" from the Bitcointalk forum. According to the OP, everything involving this user is tainted with some kind of illegality that they committed.

That may be true, but the service provided here is not illegal at all. And there has been clear evidence that it has worked as intended. What each member does outside of this forum is not the responsibility of this community.

However, the warning remained, even though the connections presented were not entirely conclusive.