Why satoshi doesn't come forward

[wobber]

It might not be the truth and only but the truth but my speculation is that he became disgusted with the community since Gavin showed it off to CIA, and become even more disgusted when he saw how twisted we are with our overly speculative, wanna-get-rich-quick-while-jerking-off mentalities and such.

My impression is that he doesn't give a single shit on any of us and more tragically even about Bitcoin. If not a prank, his recent post on not being Dorian, clearly shows he stepped forward to defend a man that was in REAL danger of being killed for his supposed wealth/ worshiped to death by the bitcoin fanatics.

Moreover, Sathoshi gave everybody the instrument, a decentralized currency but we somehow started to do it wrong (see MyBitcoin, Bitcoinica, MtGox etc)

But don't worry, Bitcoin will not burn in hell, only we will! (in a max of 90 years or so, and even less for some of us). And lets a keep a toast for for MtGox - Bitcoinica incidents as we love people being scammed of off their life savings.

PS: Haven't lost any bitcoin with the Mtgox fiasco but I have lost faith in the community. Protocol still works though.

[anu]

PS: Haven't lost any bitcoin with the Mtgox fiasco but I have lost faith in the community. Protocol still works though.

This is because the OK members of the community left bitcointalk, not only Satoshi. Bitcointalk, especially the Speculation board mutated to a TrollBox. Look at some "last active" of some of the old guard:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12149

[knightcoin]

At this stage of my life every time I try to really understand why people do this, do that ... a bunch of philosophical pop out of my mind like ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism_(metaphysics)

so I try to not judge others decisions or attitudes ... it's cause more segregation than integration ...

“One of the tasks of true friendship is to listen compassionately and creatively to the hidden silences. Often secrets are not revealed in words, they lie concealed in the silence between the words or in the depth of what is unsayable between two people.”
--John O'Donohue, Anam Cara: A Book of Celtic Wisdom

[gentlemand]

I'm sure the old guard still has a bit of skin in the game. They probably found this forum to be increasingly intolerable.

Satoshi must've been bright enough to realise that human nature would morph his/her/its/their creation into another cesspool. It's still money and that's one of the most emotive subjects in the world. Once you bind the internet to it then that just amplifies it by a few orders of magnitude.

Perhaps a few years down the line there'll be quiet offshoots springing up around the world that really do fulfill the ideological promise.

[akujin]

They're out there busy spending their money 

 

[skooter]

If you made tons of money off this would you want everyone to know about it, including the IRS?

[slapper]

Satoshi is not, but most definitely some others. How do people get deceived so easily? It is painful watching the $1200 holders try to rally in speculation. It does take a while to come out of the matrix and understand all of this completely. Shame on media hyping this up too. The ideology just proves the strength of the almighty $ It has survived decades and the set the standards. It will for a long time to come as well. I am sure there will be more slaughtered down the road by reading here how this is all actually a million dollars per bitcoin and get tempted to play the poker game. Just get the chips and get ready.

I am getting ready to go through the bitcoin statement of cash flows to properly evaluate the stock price  

[Easy2Mine]

PS: Haven't lost any bitcoin with the Mtgox fiasco but I have lost faith in the community. Protocol still works though.

This is because the OK members of the community left bitcointalk, not only Satoshi. Bitcointalk, especially the Speculation board mutated to a TrollBox. Look at some "last active" of some of the old guard:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12149

The man is fucking busy after he sold Satoshi Dice for 126,315 bitcoins.
He is enjoying live and working on something new.

[serenitys]

Is it possible that the person Dorian isn't the right Satoshi Nakamoto, and overzealous reporters who in the 21st century have no clue what proper investigative reporting and fact checking are, just saw the name and jumped the gun?

Is it possible that SN was always an alias?


That's a n00b question btw, but nonetheless sincere.

[Beliathon]

Is it possible that the person Dorian isn't the right Satoshi Nakamoto, and overzealous reporters who in the 21st century have no clue what proper investigative reporting and fact checking are, just saw the name and jumped the gun?

Is it possible that SN was always an alias?

Not only possible, but highly probable. We know the real Satoshi was an expert on pseudonymity and a part of the cypherpunk scene going all the way back to the early 90s.

This person(s) knew what (t)he(y) were doing.

[skooter]

Shit, I'm tempted to get a legal name change to Satoshi Nakamoto and have someone "leak" to the press that they found me.

Could probably clear a few hundred thousand $ from media companies before they realize it's bullshit and leave me alone.

[ashapasa]

he could still be here posting under a different name. 

[Bitcoin Magazine]

cause he is Dorian     

[serenitys]

Shit, I'm tempted to get a legal name change to Satoshi Nakamoto and have someone "leak" to the press that they found me.

Could probably clear a few hundred thousand $ from media companies before they realize it's bullshit and leave me alone.

I'd love to see this become a thing

[wobber]

Aaaan this thread gets the same noob trolling, no other constructive dialogue other than Anu's posts.

[jubalix]

Quite simply Satoshi realised if he was right, and he likely was, that he had to be anon. Can you imagine the target he painted on his back. Think it through

[1] Near 1 million BTC, he could easily become the worlds most wealthy individual by some large margin.
[2] Imagine the govs/corps after him + alphabet agencies. The guy just solved an a major problem, and the solution borders on genius, not saying its perfect, but it was original thought.
[3] He/She/It planned this out for a long time and thought it through. They are not in it for the the short term. They planned out no going public
[4] Avoid all the acolytes/nutcases.

Satsoshi would have no life left if he revealed himself. I think satoshi see's bitcoin at 1 Mill a coin [at least], and this is the reason for the 10e^-8, 1 satoshi = 1 cent.

"we" haven't done anything "wrong" that occurs in any system. We need a properly distributed exchange

It might not be the truth and only but the truth but my speculation is that he became disgusted with the community since Gavin showed it off to CIA, and become even more disgusted when he saw how twisted we are with our overly speculative, wanna-get-rich-quick-while-jerking-off mentalities and such.

My impression is that he doesn't give a single shit on any of us and more tragically even about Bitcoin. If not a prank, his recent post on not being Dorian, clearly shows he stepped forward to defend a man that was in REAL danger of being killed for his supposed wealth/ worshiped to death by the bitcoin fanatics.

Moreover, Sathoshi gave everybody the instrument, a decentralized currency but we somehow started to do it wrong (see MyBitcoin, Bitcoinica, MtGox etc)

But don't worry, Bitcoin will not burn in hell, only we will! (in a max of 90 years or so, and even less for some of us). And lets a keep a toast for for MtGox - Bitcoinica incidents as we love people being scammed of off their life savings.

PS: Haven't lost any bitcoin with the Mtgox fiasco but I have lost faith in the community. Protocol still works though.

[S4VV4S]

OP, if you have invented something that would change people's lives forever, turning them from slaves to free people, to choose from their own, their own destiny:

Would you want your government to know about it?

Think hard before you answer....

[blacksails]

Most communities turn out this way sooner or later. Often that's what leads to more mainstream acceptance.
You may or may not like the way it is, but that is how it is. I don't wanna sound rude saying this but, if you don't like what has happened to the community you are free to leave whenever you want. There surely are other revolutionizing projects that only a handful of people knows about. Join them if that is the kind of communities you prefer.
We all have a choice; either you can stay here, frustrated over how things are, or you can try to teach us the way of bitcoin. Or you can leave. The choice is up to you.

[hypostatization]

It could just be that he turned into a lobster and is no longer able to type.

[lepirate]

I still find this theory most likely: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348608

No, but seriously, yeah, most of us jumped onboard this train driven by greed. We all thought we were going to get rich. I, as well as you, believe that Satoshis intentions were completely different, however greed is a part of capitalism. I'm not saying that capitalism is the best system, but since we all live in a capitalistic world, like it or not, it is our only way to get mainstream.
I won't deny my causes for jumping onboard was pure greed. But Bitcoin grew to me. Hopefully people will as I did realize what a revolutionizing technology this is.
Satoshi may like it or not, but we use his/her/their work to revolutionize the world. And that was also his mission even though I believe his methods would have been different from ours.