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April 05, 2014, 07:39:49 AM
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I am wondering why people are making him a saint. Noone knows his true motive other than himself. Maybe he created the currency to enrich himself, even though it is desentrilized. He could have mined alot in the early days. Or he may not have, and  creted  it just as a "holy" motive. As I see, it the ones that came in early is the ones that got rich on this easy. All others, coming late in must really work hard with mining, trading or other. Even Jesus had a motive to do what he did and belived in, if not he would not got true with it (he did unselfish, but had a agenda). To create a desentrilized currency can also be selfish. Anarchists for example, believe in chaos, and thereby want to create it, and if they believe in it truly, its a kind of selfish to create it and "force" it on others that not want it.

Whatever a human does do, is most often based on selfishness, agenda or what other expects from you somehow true believe. So to glorify a person to almost holy I will never be into; if its my mom, the president or other.



I think satoshi is playing the long game, his motive was likely, go down in history, solve a cardinal problem no else had, make 1 trillion $. Some english guy  in the 1500's or so was worth over a Trillion in today's money....so theres precedent for that. Satoshi has planned this out some years in advance, and is sticking to the plan

If you have ever read Wells the sleeper wakes it has some interesting ideas as to what happens if the money is left then used later.....when satoshi wakes.

Its also telling that Satoshi may have broken cover to get dorian of the Hook rather than crow about  my invention just cracked $10B.

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April 05, 2014, 08:04:48 AM
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Is it possible that the person Dorian isn't the right Satoshi Nakamoto, and overzealous reporters who in the 21st century have no clue what proper investigative reporting and fact checking are, just saw the name and jumped the gun?

Is it possible that SN was always an alias?
Not only possible, but highly probable. We know the real Satoshi was an expert on pseudonymity and a part of the cypherpunk scene going all the way back to the early 90s.

This person(s) knew what (t)he(y) were doing.

yea it's called the golden lie

i recall someone in SV talking about just this scenario, many, many years ago...
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April 06, 2014, 03:50:40 AM
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Satoshi is not, but most definitely some others. How do people get deceived so easily? It is painful watching the $1200 holders try to rally in speculation. It does take a while to come out of the matrix and understand all of this completely. Shame on media hyping this up too. The ideology just proves the strength of the almighty $ It has survived decades and the set the standards. It will for a long time to come as well. I am sure there will be more slaughtered down the road by reading here how this is all actually a million dollars per bitcoin and get tempted to play the poker game. Just get the chips and get ready.

I am getting ready to go through the bitcoin statement of cash flows to properly evaluate the stock price  Roll Eyes

The "almighty $" has lost 95.6% of it's purchasing power since the Federal Reserve came into existence. There are claims that it's still doing well compared to other currencies. Sure, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed is king, but Bitcoin is completely above governments struggling to stay afloat by inflation taxation. That's the whole point with Bitcoin

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April 06, 2014, 03:58:51 AM
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Satoshi has probably left us forever.
The risk/reward in coming back is not favorable.

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April 06, 2014, 04:26:37 AM
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I think I found out who satoshi is...

Dorian is just a diversion... maybe paid by those large bitcoin holders  Roll Eyes

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April 06, 2014, 05:42:17 AM
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This is what we know.

Satoshi created Bitcoin.
He was a very active member to the community even in his last post which was build 0.3.19.
He then disappeared to never be heard from again.
His coins still sit untouched.

The 3 most reasonable reasons for his departure are:

He died. Totally possible, would explain why the coins are untouched and why such  an active member would just vanish without warning.

He contracted a debilitating disease. He could no longer maintain his pseudonym/alter ego without his caretakers or family's help.

He stopped giving a shit. Most unlikely because of how active he was to the very last post.

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April 06, 2014, 05:47:04 AM
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Exactly how many coins are supposedly untouched that he left behind?

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April 06, 2014, 12:01:10 PM
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This is what we know.

Satoshi created Bitcoin.
He was a very active member to the community even in his last post which was build 0.3.19.
He then disappeared to never be heard from again.
His coins still sit untouched.

The 3 most reasonable reasons for his departure are:

He died. Totally possible, would explain why the coins are untouched and why such  an active member would just vanish without warning.

He contracted a debilitating disease. He could no longer maintain his pseudonym/alter ego without his caretakers or family's help.

He stopped giving a shit. Most unlikely because of how active he was to the very last post.



or maybe he is still very active in the community with different nickname

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April 06, 2014, 04:19:32 PM
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cause they will put the people around them in jeopardy, to ransoms, kidnapping from the gov, etc.  dont need to go on.

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April 06, 2014, 05:19:04 PM
Last edit: April 07, 2014, 07:49:53 AM by Bit_Happy
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Exactly how many coins are supposedly untouched that he left behind?

The "commonly accepted" total is over 1 million BTC in the untouched Satoshi blocks.
Yet, alt coins get "tainted" by a small premine..............LOL???

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April 06, 2014, 05:41:15 PM
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I hope i'll not know what will happen if Satoshi come forward
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April 06, 2014, 06:15:45 PM
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This is what we know.

Satoshi created Bitcoin.
He was a very active member to the community even in his last post which was build 0.3.19.
He then disappeared to never be heard from again.
His coins still sit untouched.

The 3 most reasonable reasons for his departure are:

He died. Totally possible, would explain why the coins are untouched and why such  an active member would just vanish without warning.

He contracted a debilitating disease. He could no longer maintain his pseudonym/alter ego without his caretakers or family's help.

He stopped giving a shit. Most unlikely because of how active he was to the very last post.



or maybe he is still very active in the community with different nickname

If he (or they are still) is still alive and doesn't give a shit about bitcoin, how many times a day do you think he thinks to himself: I created bitcoin and don't a fuck.

It would be pretty gangster if bitcoin never entered his mind on a daily basis. That's the evolution in my opinion. People not thinking about "money", like you don't think about breathing or loving your child or pet, and living life on another level. That's the technology that was putforth by Satoshi to the community and what has happened? Shit talking on the internet, market manipulation, crap coins, and government misinformation.

I'm not shocked, actually this is pretty much par for the course.

I would be shocked if a cross-section of the world saw this thing through, used the technology because it makes fucking sense and each of us witness something transformative to the human race in the next decade.


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April 07, 2014, 03:54:56 AM
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Exactly how many coins are supposedly untouched that he left behind?

The "commonly accepted" total is over 1 million BTC in the untouched Satoshi blocks.
Yet, atl coins get "tainted" by a small premine..............LOL???


So, Satoshi's work & idea wasn't free. Nor the contribution of early adopters ?

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April 07, 2014, 04:29:48 AM
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PS: Haven't lost any bitcoin with the Mtgox fiasco but I have lost faith in the community. Protocol still works though.

This is because the OK members of the community left bitcointalk, not only Satoshi. Bitcointalk, especially the Speculation board mutated to a TrollBox. Look at some "last active" of some of the old guard:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12149



Not quite a good example there wobber he has his own problems as MP pointed out with the SEC checking the validity of Satoshidices sell off

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April 07, 2014, 07:48:41 AM
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Exactly how many coins are supposedly untouched that he left behind?

The "commonly accepted" total is over 1 million BTC in the untouched Satoshi blocks.
Yet, alt coins get "tainted" by a small premine..............LOL???


So, Satoshi's work & idea wasn't free. Nor the contribution of early adopters ?

I was pointing out a double-standard that is grossly unfair.
Either Satoshi's huge stash should get much more negative publicity, or "legit" devs with a moderate early-mine/premine should be treated a lot better.

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April 07, 2014, 02:58:33 PM
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 It doesn't really matter, does it? ... The community loves the bitcoin mystique and if he ever comes forward.

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April 09, 2014, 07:06:07 PM
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PS: Haven't lost any bitcoin with the Mtgox fiasco but I have lost faith in the community. Protocol still works though.

This is because the OK members of the community left bitcointalk, not only Satoshi. Bitcointalk, especially the Speculation board mutated to a TrollBox. Look at some "last active" of some of the old guard:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12149



Not quite a good example there wobber he has his own problems as MP pointed out with the SEC checking the validity of Satoshidices sell off

I don't understand what you're saying there. Care to explain?

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April 09, 2014, 09:54:12 PM
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PS: Haven't lost any bitcoin with the Mtgox fiasco but I have lost faith in the community. Protocol still works though.


same here.
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April 10, 2014, 05:34:07 AM
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PS: Haven't lost any bitcoin with the Mtgox fiasco but I have lost faith in the community. Protocol still works though.

This is because the OK members of the community left bitcointalk, not only Satoshi. Bitcointalk, especially the Speculation board mutated to a TrollBox. Look at some "last active" of some of the old guard:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12149



Not quite a good example there wobber he has his own problems as MP pointed out with the SEC checking the validity of Satoshidices sell off

I don't understand what you're saying there. Care to explain?

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April 10, 2014, 05:49:30 AM
Last edit: April 13, 2014, 02:55:06 PM by trior
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So he doesn't  have to answer the so-many newbies questions.  Grin

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