AI guidelines

[ABCbits]

User @AnisEverRise created thread Solo Mining with Solar: My QSE Experiment with a Bitaxe Stack.. supposedly about his project, which include an image. Based on the thread text and image, there's implication it's real life photo taken by himself. But some people suspect it's AI generated, which later confirmed by himself.

Unless i misunderstood the normal rule, there's no requirement to mention source of non-text content. So i suggest this part of guideline should be updated, to also mention/disclose that the non-text content is AI generated.

That's going to be a tricky addition to the rules: many people embed images they found somewhere on the internet, which makes it increasingly difficult to know whether or not it's created by AI.

AnisEverRise's case basically comes down to lying, and as much as I don't like it, I don't think that should be governed by rules. It will be a slippery slope if lying is against the rules.

Fair point. How about more general guideline/suggestion, such as stating the image isn't created or taken by them (doesn't matter somewhere it's from internet, AI generated or other source they dont remember)?

[LoyceV]

Fair point. How about more general guideline/suggestion, such as stating the image isn't created or taken by them (doesn't matter somewhere it's from internet, AI generated or other source they dont remember)?

I'd vote against that too (not that I have any illusions of having a vote in this). In AnisEverRise's case: let's say there was such a rule. What would you want the forum to do about this? Deleting his post or banning him seems unnecessary to me. He received a few neutral tags, I'd say that's enough for pretending he took a photo that he didn't take.

[Alone055]

I'd vote against that too (not that I have any illusions of having a vote in this). In AnisEverRise's case: let's say there was such a rule. What would you want the forum to do about this? Deleting his post or banning him seems unnecessary to me. He received a few neutral tags, I'd say that's enough for pretending he took a photo that he didn't take.

I agree with that, because despite the fact that people might lie about some content to be their own but they actually aren't, but once they are caught for lying about it, they shouldn't be banned, either neutral or negative tags should do the work. I'll give an example about this.

We know that AI is developing at a rapid pace, sometimes, you can't even tell whether a content created using AI is actually AI-generated or an original. So, when there are contests on this forum where people need to submit designs and stuff, if someone uses AI to create a design and submits it, and they would obviously not say they used AI for it, but if they are later caught for using AI to participate in the contest, banning them shouldn't be the right thing to do, but they should surely get either a few negative or neutral tags telling everyone that the person is a liar and not trustworthy at all.

[nutildah]

Fair point. How about more general guideline/suggestion, such as stating the image isn't created or taken by them (doesn't matter somewhere it's from internet, AI generated or other source they dont remember)?

I'd vote against that too (not that I have any illusions of having a vote in this). In AnisEverRise's case: let's say there was such a rule. What would you want the forum to do about this? Deleting his post or banning him seems unnecessary to me. He received a few neutral tags, I'd say that's enough for pretending he took a photo that he didn't take.

Ultimately its up to the user to have some common sense when it comes how they are using AI on the forum. A simple application of the Golden Rule should suffice: would you feel deceived if someone else did the same thing you are doing?

This is how the trust system has sorted itself out over the years, without the need for administrative involvement.

We may all have differing opinions about what "deception" entails and that's a good thing.

Personally I'd prefer if someone clearly labeled an image or text as AI before posting it, unless its so obvious that it's not necessary. But I'm not gonna try to hold anyone to that, or expect others to. The image part is still a gray area for sure.

[Cricktor]

A simple application of the Golden Rule should suffice: would you feel deceived if someone else did the same thing you are doing?

I kinda feel this only works if people don't have malicious intents and have a society compatible social common sense.

Personally I'd prefer if someone clearly labeled an image or text as AI before posting it, unless its so obvious that it's not necessary. But I'm not gonna try to hold anyone to that, or expect others to. The image part is still a gray area for sure.

Definitely, I'd prefer having AI content of whatever form labeled as such. And if someone goes to the length to create such AI generated pictures, they should label them as such. But this is not going to happen unfortunately, as I believe and as you say, too.