Who can destroy Bitcoin?

[Abiky]

This makes sense. Satoshi couldn't possibly destroy something he had created so sophisticatedly and then destroy it himself. In fact, he created Bitcoin to counter the increasingly deteriorating fiat system at the time. With Bitcoin people can achieve financial freedom and it makes it easier to store assets to protect value.

Since Bitcoin inception, many have wanted to destroy it, but so far no one has succeeded. In fact, Bitcoin has continued to grow, and many want to adopt it. The wisdom of Bitcoin remaining anonymous to this day may be true, as you say. If Sotashi knew who he was his life would likely be in danger at any time. So, my conclusion is that no one can destroy Bitcoin because it has become a highly sought-after asset.

You're wrong about Bitcoin being anonymous. It's a misconception many had in the early days. Due to its transparent ledger, Bitcoin can be considered pseudonymous. We know that Satoshi has some BTC stashed by checking early public addresses. But what if he has more? Like in other addresses that were not previously disclosed? He might not be able to destroy Bitcoin, but he could crash market prices all the way to "rock bottom". Even if it's for a short-period of time.

Thanks to Bitcoin's open source and decentralized nature, the community has made sure it's resilient enough to withstand almost anything. Not even governments have been successful in taking it down. Hopefully, it stays that way forever.

[fuguebtc]

This makes sense. Satoshi couldn't possibly destroy something he had created so sophisticatedly and then destroy it himself. In fact, he created Bitcoin to counter the increasingly deteriorating fiat system at the time. With Bitcoin people can achieve financial freedom and it makes it easier to store assets to protect value.

Since Bitcoin inception, many have wanted to destroy it, but so far no one has succeeded. In fact, Bitcoin has continued to grow, and many want to adopt it. The wisdom of Bitcoin remaining anonymous to this day may be true, as you say. If Sotashi knew who he was his life would likely be in danger at any time. So, my conclusion is that no one can destroy Bitcoin because it has become a highly sought-after asset.

You're wrong about Bitcoin being anonymous. It's a misconception many had in the early days. Due to its transparent ledger, Bitcoin can be considered pseudonymous. We know that Satoshi has some BTC stashed by checking early public addresses. But what if he has more? Like in other addresses that were not previously disclosed? He might not be able to destroy Bitcoin, but he could crash market prices all the way to "rock bottom". Even if it's for a short-period of time.

Thanks to Bitcoin's open source and decentralized nature, the community has made sure it's resilient enough to withstand almost anything. Not even governments have been successful in taking it down. Hopefully, it stays that way forever.

Yes, bitcoin is not anonymous, it is pseudonymous.

Satoshi may own more bitcoin than we think. However, regardless of what percentage of the supply he owns, and even if he sells it all. This could cause panic in the market and push the market to rock bottom. But that also depends on the market liquidity at that time. If Wall Street poured hundreds of billions of dollars into buying Satoshi’s bitcoin, the market would even go up rather than fall.


Regarding whether Satoshi could destroy Bitcoin. If someone says he can do that, they really do not fully understand Bitcoin.

[Satofan44]

Almost twenty year Satoshi not any decision yet to destroy bitcoin exactly when bitcoin hitting new ATH price, I don't think the founder of bitcoin will destroy what they have build up and seeing the transaction bitcoin wallet from Satoshi keep inactive yet until right now. Now bitcoin hold by many people and not dominance by one person only its difficult to destroy bitcoin, learning how altcoin become scam by owning one person only with holding by developer more than 70% easily for developer to destroy altcoin but its can't happening for bitcoin have many holder right now and not dominance by single holder.

Read the previous posts of the thread before responding with nonsense. There is no proof that almost any wallet at all is or was owned by Satoshi, that is a hallucination from desperate humans that want to assign meaning and find patterns in randomness. Even if the Bitcoin from any of those wallets moves, that does not mean that Satoshi did anything. Furthermore, for the part relating to altcoins you are mixing up basic concepts -- holding a lot of the supply is not the same as holding control of the project in a non-POS environment. Both things are bad, but the centralized control is much worse and that is the issue with shitcoins besides supply concentration.

You're wrong about Bitcoin being anonymous. It's a misconception many had in the early days. Due to its transparent ledger, Bitcoin can be considered pseudonymous.

This thread is full of misconceptions and even you continued to spread some/

We know that Satoshi has some BTC stashed by checking early public addresses. But what if he has more? Like in other addresses that were not previously disclosed? He might not be able to destroy Bitcoin, but he could crash market prices all the way to "rock bottom". Even if it's for a short-period of time.

Unless an address is somehow tied to the genesis block, is an address posted by satoshi or otherwise verified to be his -- there is no proof about his "stash". "It had to be him" is not a valid argument or proof that some address is owned by Satoshi. Largely, about 99% of the coins that are estimated to be owned by Satoshi are not proven to be Satoshi's. It is a made up number by zealots that trust but do not verify, the exact opposite of what Bitcoin teaches.

Satoshi may own more bitcoin than we think.

He does not.

[Kryptonite788]

The only possible thing that can kill Bitcoin now is quantum computers, even Kevin o Larry said that this is why institutions won't risk more than 3% of their entire worth into Bitcoin, not until that phase is passed.

It seems the threat is real, at first I have always ruled it off but its now becoming more noticeable, the solution is likely a fork or an update.

Right now I don't see any other threat for bitcoin than this, and it will passed, gone are the early days where Bitcoin could still be stopped, now its too late.

I totally disagree with this statement and I believe the threat that quantum computers pose to bitcoin is highly exaggerated because bitcoin is heavily protected by SHA-256 hash function that is very strong and no design of quantum computers present in this generation can pose any permanent threat to bitcoin ,not to forget ,there have been several upgrades in bitcoin security protocols over the year since its inception and this has helped to strengthen it’s network and improve efficiency.

[Oluwa-btc]

I don't think Satoshi can completely destroy Bitcoin but it's possible that since he happens to be the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin,he may be capable of creating some temporary complications in its technical structure.Whereas,I strongly believe the idea that Satoshi can control or destroy Bitcoin is largely a myth,because the system was designed to operate and run independently.

[DanWalker]

I don't think Satoshi can completely destroy Bitcoin but it's possible that since he happens to be the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin,he may be capable of creating some temporary complications in its technical structure.Whereas,I strongly believe the idea that Satoshi can control or destroy Bitcoin is largely a myth,because the system was designed to operate and run independently.

No, he absolutely could not have caused any complications, even minor or temporary, to the technical structure of bitcoin. Because Bitcoin operate based on consensus. This mean that any changes to the network require the approval of a majority of participants in the ecosystem. Satoshi created Bitcoin, but his authority is the same as other developers in the ecosystem. He doesnt have any special privileges.

[Omj1014]

It’s interesting to see the focus on Satoshi’s stash as a potential kill switch. Even if a massive sell-off occurred, it wouldn't change the underlying protocol or the decentralized network of nodes. As one of the posters mentioned, market liquidity and institutional interest would likely absorb the shock eventually. Bitcoin's strength isn't in its price stability, but in its censorship resistance and the fact that no single entity even the creator can turn it off.

[henry_of_skalitz]

I don't think Satoshi can completely destroy Bitcoin but it's possible that since he happens to be the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin,he may be capable of creating some temporary complications in its technical structure.Whereas,I strongly believe the idea that Satoshi can control or destroy Bitcoin is largely a myth,because the system was designed to operate and run independently.

How he would imply these complications without the consensus of the rest of the network?

[free-bit.co.in]

It’s interesting to see the focus on Satoshi’s stash as a potential kill switch. Even if a massive sell-off occurred, it wouldn't change the underlying protocol or the decentralized network of nodes. As one of the posters mentioned, market liquidity and institutional interest would likely absorb the shock eventually. Bitcoin's strength isn't in its price stability, but in its censorship resistance and the fact that no single entity even the creator can turn it off.

The decentralized nature of Bitcoin lies in its network and protocol, and has nothing to do with the supply of Bitcoin. Therefore, if we want to destroy Bitcoin, we have to destroy the network and the protocol, not by dumping its price. But this is almost impossible because the network is globally distributed and with no off switch.

I was also quite surprised that people focused so much on Satoshi and the amount of bitcoin he held, and then suggested that he could harm bitcoin. By selling all of his Bitcoin or by assuming that his appearance would harm Bitcoin. If BTC could be easily harmed or destroyed by a single individual, it would not be called a decentralized asset.

[hd49728]

The decentralized nature of Bitcoin lies in its network and protocol, and has nothing to do with the supply of Bitcoin. Therefore, if we want to destroy Bitcoin, we have to destroy the network and the protocol, not by dumping its price. But this is almost impossible because the network is globally distributed and with no off switch.

Bitcoin blockchain has no circuit break like the stock market in the USA or smart contracts like altcoins to halt their blockchains. There is no 51% attack on Bitcoin blockchain so far and if people did not attack Bitcoin blockchain in the past with much smaller hashrate, now and in the future with higher hashrate and better adoption of Bitcoin, there will be less reasons to attack Bitcoin network 51%, and it's harder to succeed too.

I was also quite surprised that people focused so much on Satoshi and the amount of bitcoin he held, and then suggested that he could harm bitcoin. By selling all of his Bitcoin or by assuming that his appearance would harm Bitcoin. If BTC could be easily harmed or destroyed by a single individual, it would not be called a decentralized asset.

It's not people focus on these things but they notice to much on Bitcoin fuds and don't have enough knowledge and experience to realize that such news, reports, articles are created for fudding. When they have better knowledge, more experience, they will no longer be affected negatively and panic by such news.

[Alex077]

I’m pretty sure the thing that could really kill Bitcoin is gradual centralization and big corporations buying it up, expecting huge profits in the future. Because of that, the original idea behind Bitcoin kind of gets lost, and honestly, it’s already not the same as it was 7-8 years ago.
Yeah, big companies are buying BTC and pushing the price up in the short term, but in the long run, this could hurt its reputation and make things worse overall.

[Luzin]

Thanks to Bitcoin's open source and decentralized nature, the community has made sure it's resilient enough to withstand almost anything. Not even governments have been successful in taking it down. Hopefully, it stays that way forever.

What about the Chinese government? They have banned any crypto transactions in the country. This has caused many people to migrate abroad to countries that are more Bitcoin-friendly. If I imagine that it applies to the whole world? What would happen? Would Bitcoin go into the black market, apparently not. What is your opinion?

Because we live in a country that sometimes forces a condition. So it is possible that this could happen. Because the government is able to control from the outside, they have more power than us.

[Jostern]

I really don’t think that personally Satoshi can destroy bitcoin because it’s definitely going to be a huge disaster if something like that should happen because right now there is a situation where people have invested heavily, huge amount of money have been invested in bitcoin so if such a thing should happen in a situation where people have invested money, then there could be a massive financial disaster meltdown for so many people, so I don’t think that of a personal reason that Satoshi would want to destroy bitcoin, Countries like China who have totally banned everything that has to do with Bitcoin, could actually be a problem For the growth and usage of Bitcoin in that part of the World.

[Ishicryptic]

And how can this thought be understood and applied to reality? Of course Bitcoin won't cease existing, but as things go more and more centralized each new day, empowering and giving control to the groups who have been ruling this world since always, Satoshi can compromise Bitcoin's credibility, by for an example, dumping all his coins on the market at once.

I believe that Bitcoin has gone beyond the level where a single individual or group can destroy it, not even the creator who is Satoshi can destroy it because it was created to be decentralized which means that an individual or institutions can only control the amount of Bitcoin that they own. But considering what you said I guess that the only way to dump Bitcoin price to the bottom is for Satoshi to dump his stash on the market, it will create abnormal excessive supply in the market that price will crash. Bitcoin has always recovered so even if Satoshi were to dump his stash on the market it'll be a matter of time before it recovers and becomes bullish, it has built a reputation as a store of value. But we all know that Satoshi Nakamoto would never think to destroy the masterpiece that has changed the narrative of finance and investment.

[icebar]

If Satoshi had thought of destroying Bitcoin, then Bitcoin would not have reached this stage. He would have destroyed it before. Moreover, Bitcoin is such an asset that its price will continue to increase in the long term, so the more everyone holds, the more they will benefit.

It is gradually moving away from the position for which Bitcoin was originally created. Bitcoin is decentralized, it is gradually becoming centralized. Many large organizations are trying to control a large part of Bitcoin so that later they can control the market according to their convenience. It cannot be said that this objective will be implemented because almost everyone knows about Bitcoin. Ordinary investors are holding Bitcoin according to their ability, so it is never possible to keep Bitcoin under own control.

[Franctoshi]

Currently no one can destroy Bitcoin for now except if it's maybe with the evention of quantum computer if finally the invention happened, the only thing that can happen is the government using bad policies to hinder the wide adoption, because we don't know the government that will come out tomorrow, just as Trump is crypto loving president, another president might come out to be anti-crypto tomorrow and use bad policies to hinder more adoption to try to destroy it or will want to ban Bitcoin which may likely not be possible.

[abaeze]

Currently no one can destroy Bitcoin for now except if it's maybe with the evention of quantum computer if finally the invention happened, the only thing that can happen is the government using bad policies to hinder the wide adoption, because we don't know the government that will come out tomorrow, just as Trump is crypto loving president, another president might come out to be anti-crypto tomorrow and use bad policies to hinder more adoption to try to destroy it or will want to ban Bitcoin which may likely not be possible.

Since Quantum computers are considered a potential risk for the future, in reality, Bitcoin adoption will be given more importance. When a new long-term economic revolution occurs worldwide, it will last at least a hundred years. Even if we assume for the sake of argument, we will not be on earth until then. So if Quantum computers are really a risk to Bitcoin, then thousands of developers will be ready to survive it. Because who knows what will happen in the future and what will not.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Currently no one can destroy Bitcoin for now except if it's maybe with the evention of quantum computer if finally the invention happened, the only thing that can happen is the government using bad policies to hinder the wide adoption, because we don't know the government that will come out tomorrow, just as Trump is crypto loving president, another president might come out to be anti-crypto tomorrow and use bad policies to hinder more adoption to try to destroy it or will want to ban Bitcoin which may likely not be possible.

Even then, it would take a very long time and even I think a quantum computer would struggle to reach that stage.
Indeed, for now the rumors about the threat of quantum computers always look like a catastrophe but in the end as long as there is no proof of anything about quantum computers that have even been talked about for several years it will remain bullshit.
On the other hand, what is feared as a rumor is that quantum computers will threaten the security of bitcoin but it is clearly not as a whole so that even if there will be sophisticated quantum computers when we suppose it is possible that it will also not be able to destroy bitcoin as a whole and before that happens it could even be that developers increase the existing security system as a form of resistance to quantum computers.

[Zanab247]

Currently no one can destroy Bitcoin for now except if it's maybe with the evention of quantum computer if finally the invention happened, the only thing that can happen is the government using bad policies to hinder the wide adoption, because we don't know the government that will come out tomorrow, just as Trump is crypto loving president, another president might come out to be anti-crypto tomorrow and use bad policies to hinder more adoption to try to destroy it or will want to ban Bitcoin which may likely not be possible.

You mean the founder of BTC don't have the power to destroy BTC? One thing we don't understand about what someone created and what people created, we all know that Satoshi is the founder of BTC and he has the power to destroy BTC if he or she wish, because he owen all the things that is making BTC stand in the decentralized market. We have heard about many governments that wanted to destroy BTC but till now they don't know what to do, because is only the creator of BTC can make sure decision to make many people to panic , because they know that Satoshi hold all the code and other details towards BTC nationwide.

Hope you know that there are some governments that is hodling massive BTC, do you think such government will support anything that will make BTC not to live? Even though such people or government have power to attack BTC, it will be hard, because they know it will affect their resources and citizens.

[skarais]

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You mean the founder of BTC don't have the power to destroy BTC? One thing we don't understand about what someone created and what people created, we all know that Satoshi is the founder of BTC and he has the power to destroy BTC if he or she wish, because he owen all the things that is making BTC stand in the decentralized market. We have heard about many governments that wanted to destroy BTC but till now they don't know what to do, because is only the creator of BTC can make sure decision to make many people to panic , because they know that Satoshi hold all the code and other details towards BTC nationwide.

Hope you know that there are some governments that is hodling massive BTC, do you think such government will support anything that will make BTC not to live? Even though such people or government have power to attack BTC, it will be hard, because they know it will affect their resources and citizens.

The government has the power to destroy bitcoin, especially its price. I vividly recall the massive government sell-off some time ago that resulted in a collapse in the Bitcoin market price. This was clearly the biggest risk for holders with large amounts of Bitcoin in their wallets, but ultimately, Bitcoin will rebound strongly due to the support and confidence of its investors.

The government can confiscate bitcoin from anyone if they discover a violation, which also threatens all holders. Regulation is something governments have always used as a weapon to seize assets, allowing them to then sell them for any reason.