Selective inline quoting feature

[MarryWithBTC]

I would like to suggest a usability improvement regarding how quoting works.
On another SMF-based technical forum i use, when you highlight a specific portion of a post, a small popup appears allowing you to quote only that selected part or reply to it directly. This removes the need to quote the entire post and manually delete unwanted sections.

Here in Bitcointalk, long discussions or posts with multiple arguments, the current method can be time consuming and often lead to excessive nested quoting.
A selective inline-quote feature could improve formatting, encourage more precise replies, and make discussions easier to follow.

Since Bitcointalk runs on SMF, i am curious if such functionality could be implemented through a modification or client-side solution without affecting performance.

I would appreciate insight from those more familiar with the forum’s technical structure.

[Hypnotizer]

TypoTonic proposed something similar to this earlier…last year I think around November.


The post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5566346.msg66088307#msg66088307

TryNinja created a Userscript for that, so you can use the userscript to use this feature on this forum

Here is a quick userscript that makes all the work for you.

Select snippet -> one click -> paste it!

Created a topic with the code here: [UserScript] Copy post quote snip to clipboard (with browser highlight URL)

GIF showcase:

[PX-Z]

TypoTonic proposed something like this earlier…last year I think around November,

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5566346.msg66088307#msg66088307

TryNinja created a Userscript for that, so you can use the userscript to use this feature on this forum

This, i've been using this script, but i can only use it few times since i'm more in my mobile phone browsing and doing stuff in the forum. As for the suggestions of OP, without PowerGlove doing from behind the scene, other good forum features that was suggested cannot be implemented anymore this time if only theymos will work on it.

[EarnOnVictor]

TypoTonic proposed something similar to this earlier…last year I think around November.

The post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5566346.msg66088307#msg66088307

TryNinja created a Userscript for that
-Snip-

Kudos to @TypoTonic for proposing this and @TryNinja for the script, but if I read the OP correctly, what he is suggesting is what will defeat the current Speed and Time of making the quote available for reply. But this one can't defeat the two. The OP's idea is something that will be highlighted directly from the post and a "quote" will pop up, just like your regular copy/paste pops up. Then by clicking it (the quote), it automatically paste itself in a way ready to be posted under without any extra work.

@MarryWithBTC, could you please post the link to the SMF forum you mentioned, for practicality?

[MarryWithBTC]

TypoTonic proposed something similar to this earlier…last year I think around November.

The post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5566346.msg66088307#msg66088307

TryNinja created a Userscript for that
-Snip-

Kudos to @TypoTonic for proposing this and @TryNinja for the script, but if I read the OP correctly, what he is suggesting is what will defeat the current Speed and Time of making the quote available for reply. But this one can't defeat the two. The OP's idea is something that will be highlighted directly from the post and a "quote" will pop up, just like your regular copy/paste pops up. Then by clicking it (the quote), it automatically paste itself in a way ready to be posted under without any extra work.

You understood this so well.

How it works:
On the tech forum, the quoting system works in two slightly different ways depending on what you choose after highlighting text.
When you highlight a portion of a post, a small popup appears similar to the browser’s copy/paste prompt showing two options: “Quote” or “Reply.” Just as i explained above.

If you click “Quote”, the selected text is added to a separate quote collection page. All the excerpts you’ve selected are stored there in sequence. When composing your message, you can then click an “Insert Quotes” button in the message editor. This opens the collected excerpts, and you can insert any specific one into your post with a single click.

If you click “Reply” the highlighted section is immediately inserted into the message field as a formatted quote, ready for you to respond to directly. No full-post quoting or manual editing is required.

check img below.

@MarryWithBTC, could you please post the link to the SMF forum you mentioned, for practicality?

https://hardforum.com/forums/motherboards.4/ - you will need to pass verification.
admin: i am not promoting another forum, you can block this, if it is not allowed.

[The Cryptovator]

On the tech forum, the quoting system works in two slightly different ways depending on what you choose after highlighting text.
When you highlight a portion of a post, a small popup appears similar to the browser’s copy/paste prompt showing two options: “Quote” or “Reply.” Just as i explained above.

If you click “Quote”, the selected text is added to a separate quote collection page. All the excerpts you’ve selected are stored there in sequence. When composing your message, you can then click an “Insert Quotes” button in the message editor. This opens the collected excerpts, and you can insert any specific one into your post with a single click.

I have quoted your post; it wasn't hard for me to quote this part only instead of quoting the whole post. First I copied the necessary part that I really want to quote, then clicked on 'quote' and deleted everything except the first quote line. Then simply paste the copied content and end the quote. So I don't think it's hard for us to quote a part of the post.

I am not against your suggestion, but the current system also seems easy for me since we are already familiar with it. If the quote is a problem, then we have solutions as well. So this isn't a very important suggestion. I am not sure if admin wants to implement that or if any other users are also interested in your suggestion. But I am not interested at all.

[Findingnemo]

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I have quoted your post; it wasn't hard for me to quote this part only instead of quoting the whole post. First I copied the necessary part that I really want to quote, then clicked on 'quote' and deleted everything except the first quote line. Then simply paste the copied content and end the quote. So I don't think it's hard for us to quote a part of the post.
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It is not a big deal for big screen users along with the drag of the mouse but while using the mobile it will be a pain in the ass so I will just edit out the entire post and use '~' tag to make it aesthetic for others while reading but I try to avoid posting from mobile 99% of the time.

[Alvin_talk]

I have quoted your post; it wasn't hard for me to quote this part only instead of quoting the whole post. First I copied the necessary part that I really want to quote, then clicked on 'quote' and deleted everything except the first quote line. Then simply paste the copied content and end the quote. So I don't think it's hard for us to quote a part of the post.

You are right but I don't think OP is talking about difficulty in quoting a section of a post, rather he is more concerned about the speed and time it takes to perform all these steps you have  briefed above. If you read and understand the post of EarnOnVictor you should get a clearer picture of the OP's intention. I believe this is very useful.

[MarryWithBTC]

I have quoted your post; it wasn't hard for me to quote this part only instead of quoting the whole post. First I copied the necessary part that I really want to quote, then clicked on 'quote' and deleted everything except the first quote line. Then simply paste the copied content and end the quote. So I don't think it's hard for us to quote a part of the post.

You are right but I don't think OP is talking about difficulty in quoting a section of a post, rather he is more concerned about the speed and time it takes to perform all these steps you have  briefed above. If you read and understand the post of EarnOnVictor you should get a clearer picture of the OP's intention. I believe this is very useful.

I believe he didn't understand the suggestion, if he did, he wouldn't disregard it.

I met a thread like the one in the img below, i decided to skip writing on the thread because of the time i'll invest only in formating.

[rat03gopoh]

I remember working with SJ on other forum posts, and one of them had this cool feature.
I support the suggestion that this feature not only be built into a userscript extension, but also be an embedded forum feature that could be implemented in the mobile version. Well, you know how difficult it is to extract sentence fragments in the very limited space of forum text editor (mobile version). I sometimes have trouble copying signature code.

[blomen]

when quoting someone else, especially when quoting a chain of quotes or a sufficiently long message, it would be really nice to have such a feature. i really like the idea. i know that not everything gets updated on the forum and that changes that are truly necessary enough to fall into the “need” category take a long time to implement, but i'm sure such a change would make a huge difference in terms of ease of posting. i'm curious about @JayJuanGee's opinion on this. he'd probably benefit the most from such a feature 

in short, if a member's opinion matters, i think it would be a pretty great change. it would be nice not to encounter a wall of text after clicking on the “insert quote” button.

[DPHOR]

Is quoting that very hard for people?
I don't think is something to worry over as op can easily look how others did their to follow up when he wants to quote any post.
It's not something hard that is too difficult for someone to know.

[Rikafip]

On another SMF-based technical forum i use, when you highlight a specific portion of a post, a small popup appears allowing you to quote only that selected part or reply to it directly. This removes the need to quote the entire post and manually delete unwanted sections.

I am active on a few other SMF based forums and I haven't seen something like that before, but it actually looks quite good and convenient and would be a good addition to bitcointalk.

Is quoting that very hard for people?

It is not very practical to do on a mobile phone when you want to reply on just parts of someone else's post, or if you want to avoid pyramid quoting.

[Churchillvv]

Is quoting that very hard for people?
I don't think is something to worry over as op can easily look how others did their to follow up when he wants to quote any post.
It's not something hard that is too difficult for someone to know.

I have quite made a few mistakes while quoting a pyramid post but later corrected it and in deleting some text to keep a few on mobile it’s very difficult to manipulate around but for someone who has been using mobile only, it’s quite normal to say it’s not difficult but have you tried a desktop version of the from where most things are practical that’s where you will know the importance of op idea and proposal.

[Mia Chloe]

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Just like others said, someone else has already suggested this and it's already available to use. I've used it a couple of times with tamper monkey and it's nice however it seems I'm just too used to using the regular quotes even if there's multiple text areas I intend to quote.

I have quite made a few mistakes while quoting a pyramid post but later corrected it and in deleting some text to keep a few on mobile it’s very difficult to manipulate around but for someone who has been using mobile only.

Pyramid quoting is viewed straight up as low quality posting except in very rare cases. It's not really ethical to quote a text making a reply when the reply outrightly isn't for the quoted text. It's pretty bulky and less appealing to read too.

[logfiles]

I could be wrong, but I think the difference is in the forum software used by both forums. Bitcoin forum uses SMF 1.1.19 which is not even the latest version while the forum you talked about is powered by XenForo both of which are completely different.
So it's likely the earlier version of SMF software that we use is not properly optimized for such a feature and the admin seems reluctant to implement some features.

[criptoevangelista]

It really is a great suggestion. It would help a lot and make the posts more dynamic.

 I’m not sure if it would be possible to implement this natively, since the structure of this forum is somewhat old, from the early days of the internet. Anyway, maybe a custom modification made by the forum’s ninjas could work and make life easier for users. Let’s see what the developers of these great tools on the forum have to say about it.

[dzungmobile]

How it works:
On the tech forum, the quoting system works in two slightly different ways depending on what you choose after highlighting text.
When you highlight a portion of a post, a small popup appears similar to the browser’s copy/paste prompt showing two options: “Quote” or “Reply.” Just as i explained above.

Without any userscript, any SMF patch, the forum can be used easily for people who can spend a little bit time for quoting, trimming nested quotes properly. I don't deny that it takes a little bit time for doing it properly as you want, but the challenge is whether you want to do it or not. If you want, you can do it easily and even comfortably too.

With too messy nested quotes, the question would be "Why do you want to reply in such posts that very likely spam ones ?"

[SamReomo]

So it's likely the earlier version of SMF software that we use is not properly optimized for such a feature and the admin seems reluctant to implement some features.

Theymos doesn't have a good number of programmers for such type of implementation and that could be the reason, a few months ago PowerGlove did quite well for the forum and implemented a good number of features and fixes for the forum. The 2FA alone is the best feature we've on the forum, and that's because of hard work of PG.

If I'm not wrong, in order to implement such features Theymos has to get some good programmers just like PowerGlove who might have strong grip of coding of SMF 1.1.19. I believe for such type of feature someone who's good at modifying SMF can do the job pretty well, but still it's easy to say such things then to do those practically. However, to be honest, such a feature if implemented could be very helpful for some of us.

[TypoTonic]

I'd like to add a few more things to @Hypnotizer's suggestion:

when you highlight a specific portion of a post, a small popup appears allowing you to quote only that selected part or reply to it directly. This removes the need to quote the entire post and manually delete unwanted sections.

TryNinja's userscript doesn't have the option for a direct reply. It does allow you to copy and quote the selected part without manual editing, but you still have to click the reply button and paste it in the message field.

If you click “Quote”, the selected text is added to a separate quote collection page. All the excerpts you’ve selected are stored there in sequence. When composing your message, you can then click an “Insert Quotes” button in the message editor. This opens the collected excerpts, and you can insert any specific one into your post with a single click.

If you enable clipboard history, you can make use of it along with the script. You'll be able to store multiple quotes while reading the thread, and when you are ready to reply, you can access them again by pressing Win + V (new quotes go on top).



This is exactly how I wrote this post. It's just one alternative you could use for now OP (if you are fine with using Tampermonkey or other browser extensions). I know it doesn't do exactly what you want, but I think it's the closest thing we have that's currently available.