Hiding information via information overload - does it work?

[retaur]

There's a common theory (potentially a conspiracy theory) that administrations (particularly the current one in the US) try to dump a lot of information ahead of major votes or world events to skew what's being reported on and overwhelm reporters.

In a lot of instances, due to population size and the amount of people that hyperfocus on random things, I'm not sure how well this actually plays out and works to the administration's advantage. Aside from that, it's often touted that the people who think they're most resistant to propaganda can often be the most susceptible to some of it too so maybe that's potentially happening here. 1. Large info dump 2. A few questionable activities that gets the medus talking 3. Something insane that's presented as mundane or normal to reporters (eg by anchoring) that no one really takes account of...

[Mhizlove]

From my own point it's like sometimes this big organisation seems to try in controlling the narratives by flooding out many informations, and hoping that important things will just by pass without anyone noticing but that's wrong truth be told when it comess to little things people do notice it and that's part of human nature no matter how little that is it will be noticeable by the people around that environmentwhike sometimes humans nature also make some people do trick themselves even though they do it with caution .
It's Clear that no matter how smart the plan will be, the way humans do pay attention and understands it will surely affects the outcome

[IjawMan]

It is a strategic pattern of information flow control used by modern governments to detract the concerned citizens from paying to too much details on critical informations that can reveal and raise a self awareness among the people on the government. Without delay they create another events to shade off, tussle and  trend over the ongoing major information. And there are the propagandists media agents helping to make sure the irrelevant informations spread to make the people get lost on the important reports.

[passwordnow]

It is a strategic pattern of information flow control used by modern governments to detract the concerned citizens from paying to too much details on critical informations that can reveal and raise a self awareness among the people on the government. Without delay they create another events to shade off, tussle and  trend over the ongoing major information. And there are the propagandists media agents helping to make sure the irrelevant informations spread to make the people get lost on the important reports.

I agree, it's a way for them to distract people from what actually is happening and that's why they have to overload the news with some kind of BS that are irrelevant. Because if they want to release real information, they would to. But if they're classified and private, there's a reason why instead of releasing those information that are genuine, they'll have to choose the other path which is to overload it. These distractions are common denominators of different governments, they all have agendas and propagandas.

[programmer3666]

If there is way too much information at once it get people tired and confused as well. And due to the nature of time and space which is always in a limited supply, the reporters can not cover or do justice to everything and that may result to some important issues not getting the required attention. But with the case of social media and other emerging independent podcast and voices, the public can still focus on a subject topic and keep it very much alive.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

It's a simple thing, once information past refused to be concise and title covering of the entire body it becomes junk before the people and demand no attention.but in the case it's usually the strategic system adopted to curve the public attention inorder to achieve their ordeal which they play, as today many information lack filter as deem necessary before, they created a while level of burden for the people to focus in searching the real information while running out of time. There if nothing to argue about this as it becomes the factual happening in today's world of information.

[_Miracle]

Flooding the Zone has worked in the past.

One thing in relation to the current Epstein files drop is that it highlights systemic issues. You wouldn't have to read any salacious details to know that the justice system wasn't working in the interests of "we the people".

That those who were being protected leaked information online to redirect? Is also an interesting line of enquiry.

The money and land grab going on in the world right now while mass surveillance and A.I. centers are being constructed would make old empires jealous and maybe cower.
The cruelty towards and degradation of humanity would make Genghis Khan salivate.

[o48o]

There's a common theory (potentially a conspiracy theory) that administrations (particularly the current one in the US) try to dump a lot of information ahead of major votes or world events to skew what's being reported on and overwhelm reporters.

In a lot of instances, due to population size and the amount of people that hyperfocus on random things, I'm not sure how well this actually plays out and works to the administration's advantage. Aside from that, it's often touted that the people who think they're most resistant to propaganda can often be the most susceptible to some of it too so maybe that's potentially happening here. 1. Large info dump 2. A few questionable activities that gets the medus talking 3. Something insane that's presented as mundane or normal to reporters (eg by anchoring) that no one really takes account of...

How is that a "conspiracy theory", when Steve Bannon has publicly admired Trump using using "Flood The Zone" strategy?

But if you are talking about Epstein Files, current administration isn't "dumping" them for their benefit. They even strongly opposed it but they are legally obligated to give them, even though they have given only fractions of it. And even deleted some of them in panic afterwards.7

You can just follow the real world, there doesn't need to be some theories why they do what they do, when it's out in the open.

[retaur]

If there is way too much information at once it get people tired and confused as well. And due to the nature of time and space which is always in a limited supply, the reporters can not cover or do justice to everything and that may result to some important issues not getting the required attention. But with the case of social media and other emerging independent podcast and voices, the public can still focus on a subject topic and keep it very much alive.

But there's gotta be a limit. No one's sat translating everything and information gets lost internationally along the way..

I wonder if anything has actually been successfully hidden this way especially since breaking news is kinda timed to happen all at once.

On some weeks they're reporting random stories people don't really care about, a few weeks later everything seems to be happening all at once (some triggered by each other, some not, some probably indirectly triggered too).

How is that a "conspiracy theory", when Steve Bannon has publicly admired Trump using using "Flood The Zone" strategy?

But if you are talking about Epstein Files, current administration isn't "dumping" them for their benefit. They even strongly opposed it but they are legally obligated to give them, even though they have given only fractions of it. And even deleted some of them in panic afterwards.7

You can just follow the real world, there doesn't need to be some theories why they do what they do, when it's out in the open.

Because might not actually work.

What law says the Epstein files needed to be released? Is there one? I thought Epstein was offed before the main convictions so files didn't need to be released in the public domain?

Some of them were deleted because the redactions weren't done properly and some other countries published more accurate records iirc (France?)

Strange AMW (UK) was only arrested after the records were released too. There's a thing that releasing records (in the UK) can mean a case isn't triable because you can't then find a jury without prejudice.

One thing in relation to the current Epstein files drop is that it highlights systemic issues. You wouldn't have to read any salacious details to know that the justice system wasn't working in the interests of "we the people".

Research into AI replacing policing did say "you predict where the police go, not where the actual crime is" and kinda stopped being done so much.

Policing statistics are heavily skewed as they mostly show in a lot of places that they're just targeting marginalised communities that look different and not anyone of genuine or more reasonable interest.

[_Miracle]

If there is way too much information at once it get people tired and confused as well. And due to the nature of time and space which is always in a limited supply, the reporters can not cover or do justice to everything and that may result to some important issues not getting the required attention. But with the case of social media and other emerging independent podcast and voices, the public can still focus on a subject topic and keep it very much alive.

But there's gotta be a limit. No one's sat translating everything and information gets lost internationally along the way..

I wonder if anything has actually been successfully hidden this way especially since breaking news is kinda timed to happen all at once.

On some weeks they're reporting random stories people don't really care about, a few weeks later everything seems to be happening all at once (some triggered by each other, some not, some probably indirectly triggered too).

How is that a "conspiracy theory", when Steve Bannon has publicly admired Trump using using "Flood The Zone" strategy?

But if you are talking about Epstein Files, current administration isn't "dumping" them for their benefit. They even strongly opposed it but they are legally obligated to give them, even though they have given only fractions of it. And even deleted some of them in panic afterwards.7

You can just follow the real world, there doesn't need to be some theories why they do what they do, when it's out in the open.

Because might not actually work.

What law says the Epstein files needed to be released? Is there one? I thought Epstein was offed before the main convictions so files didn't need to be released in the public domain?

Some of them were deleted because the redactions weren't done properly and some other countries published more accurate records iirc (France?)

Strange AMW (UK) was only arrested after the records were released too. There's a thing that releasing records (in the UK) can mean a case isn't triable because you can't then find a jury without prejudice.

One thing in relation to the current Epstein files drop is that it highlights systemic issues. You wouldn't have to read any salacious details to know that the justice system wasn't working in the interests of "we the people".

Research into AI replacing policing did say "you predict where the police go, not where the actual crime is" and kinda stopped being done so much.

Policing statistics are heavily skewed as they mostly show in a lot of places that they're just targeting marginalised communities that look different and not anyone of genuine or more reasonable interest.

This is the perfection of making conspiracies something that can't be talked about.

"talking about Epstein Files, current administration isn't "dumping" them for their benefit. They even strongly opposed it but they are legally obligated to give them"

Trump, Cash Patel & Bondi said they'd release on day 1 <---this is how confident they were that nothing would come from it.
Part of the protests ongoing in the United States are about this type of corruption.

There has been more pressure put on our politicians to release these files from the American people than is being talked about on the news.

Representative Melanie Stansbury has been standing on business regarding the files for almost a year.
https://stansbury.house.gov/    ---> last November forcing the signature to pass  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp8Aa_hscO0
Thomas Massie a Republican is now taking on his own party.

"What law says the Epstein files needed to be released? Is there one?"

Yes it's The Epstein Transparency Act
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4405
P.S. The government was shutdown during that process

This isn't only about "a sex trafficking ring". Having information that can compromise powerful people is... powerful.
Committing crimes together creates a bond --> from a street gang to world leaders.
That's why Mark Carney's speech at the World Economic Forum was powerful. Because he is admitting that exceptions have been to the "rules based order".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flsgJe8mN-A  (starts @ 3:55)
Decades ago world leaders came together and agreed that the old ways of colonization, taking resources by force and extraction were "old world order" behavior.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights established in 1948
https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

One real argument happening in the world right now is whether we've ever truly respected The Rules Based International Order.

None of the above is disputed information. It can easily be seen, they are saying it outload. It's just not on the news.


While I have played with ideas online before in unserious ways this is my opinon:
The new Board of Peace is a big step away from peace.
We should be living up to our promises and strengthening the United Nations.

All people who think they are free should do everything in their power to stay that way and stand for other people's rights to be free.
If you look back at history with a critical eye you will see that liberty is still being fought for, it has never been fully realized.
Horrifying things have been done to humans by other humans and we are those same people who are now repeating the same mistakes.

The revelations happening right now regarding how we have not changed should shake every person to their core.

Some of us don't know how to be uncomfortable. Be "shook", that's a good sign. Then...

Read more history books and watch very little news (maybe read Groundnews.com)
Figure out what your role is in making our officials live up to the jobs we've elected them to do.
Because all around the world they--are --failing us.
 
"Research into AI replacing policing"

My original hope for algorithms, Blockchains and A.I. was that policy could be examined, power of the people could be decentralized and that technology could be an equalizer.

What I see in this moment is that too many of us humans have been programed to protect power and identify with hierarchies.
Hierarchical constructs have been useful in keeping us masses divided. And when those old hierarchies started to lose potency new ones were created.

The current war against compassion is backfiring against a power structure that wants to exploit empathy. Instead it is waking people up then counting on exhausting them back into compliance. I hope it doesn't work [again].

My favorite comedian 30 years ago George Carlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAFd4FdbJxs  George Carlin on Conspiracies explained in 48 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwRSRBPBhDw

[Findingnemo]

Yes, it always works and human suffer with a disease called they forget everything, not talking about dementia but in general we just forget something we lost the interest on it and focus on new one. So if government wants to shift the focus of their people into something else then they will throw in lot of similar events and pump the media with full of information.