Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao Part II

[Sithara007]

Remember that most boxers that went bankrupt or might have lost their earnings might have been:

a. business that failed
b. drugs
c. alcohol
d. child support
e. gambling addiction

Floyd also has history of domestic violence and even sued by his ex-mama for a huge amount of money if my memory is right. So maybe along that line, Floyd could have been with that problem after his retirement and so he can't sustain his lifestyle.

Money management has been a long standing problem with may of the athletes and boxers are no exception. Remember what happened to Mike Tyson, one of the most successful boxing legends of all time? That said, Manny Pacquiao has maintained a stricter money regime during and after his professional career. And that is also one of the reason why his net worth as of now is higher than that of Floyd. That said, Pacquiao had his fare share of failed ventures, such as his presidential campaign of 2022. Spent a lot of money and effort, without any returns.

[acroman08]

I still shaking my head as what could be the real reason for all of this drama coming from Floyd. Is he really protecting that 0 as what we say? Or just hyping the fight to the higher level so that even casual fans are now exciting about this fight? Although I might be biased as I'm a Filipino. But for other nationalities, have you heard someone talking about this fight? It is effective method for Floyd to create more noises so that they can break records again and stay at the top of the highest PPV in history? Or it's Floyd is really hell bent on protecting his 0?

We don't really know if Mayweather is doing this to protect his record, but what we know is that drama/conflict is often used to hype up and make noise about fights. Right now, all we can do is make assumptions about it, and my opinion about it is that Mayweather is stirring up this drama to hype up their fight.

[Kelward]

Remember that most boxers that went bankrupt or might have lost their earnings might have been:

a. business that failed
b. drugs
c. alcohol
d. child support
e. gambling addiction

Floyd also has history of domestic violence and even sued by his ex-mama for a huge amount of money if my memory is right. So maybe along that line, Floyd could have been with that problem after his retirement and so he can't sustain his lifestyle.

Money management has been a long standing problem with may of the athletes and boxers are no exception. Remember what happened to Mike Tyson, one of the most successful boxing legends of all time? That said, Manny Pacquiao has maintained a stricter money regime during and after his professional career. And that is also one of the reason why his net worth as of now is higher than that of Floyd. That said, Pacquiao had his fare share of failed ventures, such as his presidential campaign of 2022. Spent a lot of money and effort, without any returns.

Most retired athletes who stages their comeback are acused of returning for the money that they are bankrupt or about to and needed the limelight to come back and rake in some money to continue their expensive lifestyles. But fans mostly don't consider whether they are staging a comeback for the love of the game, may they are addicted to being the ring and fighting even though they are retired. I've seen some extravagant lifestyles of Mayweather, I believe that it is perhaps only boxing that can sustain such a lifestyle and he needed to make some money in the ring or maybe his doing fine and wants to test himself again in the ring. Whatever his innermost reasons are we wouldn't know but what we know is we are about to see two legends collide once again, better late than never.

[freedomgo]

We don't really know if Mayweather is doing this to protect his record, but what we know is that drama/conflict is often used to hype up and make noise about fights. Right now, all we can do is make assumptions about it, and my opinion about it is that Mayweather is stirring up this drama to hype up their fight.

Classic Mayweather, he’s really good at that, and that’s one big reason why he became one of the highest-paid boxers in history even if a lot of people consider him one of the most boring to watch.

He built that undefeated record, and even if he doesn’t always do a lot in the ring that fans find exciting, outside the ring he knows exactly how to sell a fight. He knows how to get people talking. A lot of people hate him, but that actually works in his favor because it makes people more interested in watching him, hoping to finally see someone beat him up in the ring. Unfortunately for them, that never really happened.

[Zadicar]

Remember that most boxers that went bankrupt or might have lost their earnings might have been:

a. business that failed
b. drugs
c. alcohol
d. child support
e. gambling addiction

Floyd also has history of domestic violence and even sued by his ex-mama for a huge amount of money if my memory is right. So maybe along that line, Floyd could have been with that problem after his retirement and so he can't sustain his lifestyle.

Money management has been a long standing problem with may of the athletes and boxers are no exception. Remember what happened to Mike Tyson, one of the most successful boxing legends of all time? That said, Manny Pacquiao has maintained a stricter money regime during and after his professional career. And that is also one of the reason why his net worth as of now is higher than that of Floyd. That said, Pacquiao had his fare share of failed ventures, such as his presidential campaign of 2022. Spent a lot of money and effort, without any returns.

Actually these kind of talks about on how their do handle their money is really that out of topic on this thread. Why? we are talking into their upcoming fight and not in speaking about on how they do handle their finances. To answer it out those things above then money management isnt that limited into these athletes/boxers but on everyone on which if you dont know on how to utilize those funds and do continue to spend up your money without having any returns then soon then you would be ending up on having those less money and comes into a time that you would be trying out to fight or having those other means on getting some income or earnings just because your bank account has been depleted and its true that this is really that being noticed on some known athletes or famous sports personalities on which have that kind of situation.

Going back into the topic for this upcoming fight on which Floyd will definitely be trying his best to protect his 0 loss record on which if he needs up to make use of his strategy or technique then he would be running around the ring once again. 

[Oasisman]

I still shaking my head as what could be the real reason for all of this drama coming from Floyd. Is he really protecting that 0 as what we say? Or just hyping the fight to the higher level so that even casual fans are now exciting about this fight? Although I might be biased as I'm a Filipino. But for other nationalities, have you heard someone talking about this fight? It is effective method for Floyd to create more noises so that they can break records again and stay at the top of the highest PPV in history? Or it's Floyd is really hell bent on protecting his 0?

We don't really know if Mayweather is doing this to protect his record, but what we know is that drama/conflict is often used to hype up and make noise about fights. Right now, all we can do is make assumptions about it, and my opinion about it is that Mayweather is stirring up this drama to hype up their fight.

There's no need to hype up the fight, as these fighters' ability to draw a crowd had already been tested. Even with their current age, they could still sell a lot of tickets. Remember, they are the record holder for the most sold boxing match in history in 2015. I can't think of any reasons why they did not hold a rematch as soon as the 1st match concluded, but it's Mayweather trying to protect his perfect record. I'm not sure if the sees Manny as a legitimate threat to his record, but based on what I've seen in their previous match, it looks like Mayweather could actually beat Manny multiple times, as long as he remains defensive.
Boxing has become more of a business these days than an actual sport. They should have done this a couple of years after 2015.

[TastyChillySauce00]

He even called Pacquiao a washed-up fighter, but I believe the match will eventually become a professional fight because he has already signed the contract and made a cash advance. If he denies that, then he will be charged with breach of contract.
Mayweather's decision is tied to the contract, whether he likes it or not.

It seems Floyd has zero literacy. So i guess he didn't even read the contract before he signed it. So i think it's too late for him to avoid it. He has only two choices to keep fight to defend his title, and receive huge money or lost it all at the same time.
Let say he's trying to breach the contract by saying he's not reading it, but such case is rarely valid being used as our defence to avoid the contract with have officially signed.

No doubt he tries to push "exhibition" scenario to this fight so hard caused by once he success by doing it. he will secure his record + money.

[Mpamaegbu]

~

Remember that most boxers that went bankrupt or might have lost their earnings might have been:

a. business that failed
b. drugs
c. alcohol
d. child support
e. gambling addiction

I can make excuses for athletes who fall into two of those issues listed there. Those will be – business that went wrong and child support; more especially failed business. As for the others, I blame athletes. I believe they already knew where they would lead them before they indulged them.

By the way, @bbc.reporter, I'm lost as to why you kept writing his name as "Gayweather". I thought it was a typo with the first two comments I saw it on your posts until I saw it more. Is that an innuendo, if I may ask?

[xLays]

Like I what said before, anything can still change. There’s always chance of cancellation or turning the fight into an exhibition, just like what’s being we talked about now.

But honestly, it feels like there’s reason why Floyd Mayweather is calling it an exhibition fight. Aside from protecting his record, this whole exhibition angle seems like part of the promotion strategy to create more buzz and discussion.
In the end, I still think it could turn into professional fight later on, since that’s what the fans really want. And for sure, Mayweather knows they’ll earn much more if it becomes an official professional match. He even said it himself that he cares about the money.

[bhadz]

We don't really know if Mayweather is doing this to protect his record, but what we know is that drama/conflict is often used to hype up and make noise about fights. Right now, all we can do is make assumptions about it, and my opinion about it is that Mayweather is stirring up this drama to hype up their fight.

They are making the people involved in this fight by making all of us curious if Floyd is doing this as a conflict to attract more potential people to watch the fight. I've read that the MP promotions that Floyd has got an advance that's so huge and if he's going to violate the contract, he might have to pay from 8 digits to 9 digits in dollars. Let's see if Floyd is willing to take that much of the violation for his penalty if he really doesn't like to make this as a match that's signed as a professional match.

[acroman08]

There's no need to hype up the fight, as these fighters' ability to draw a crowd had already been tested. Even with their current age, they could still sell a lot of tickets. Remember, they are the record holder for the most sold boxing match in history in 2015.

I don't doubt their ability to draw a crowd to this fight, but when it comes to boxing, it is fairly common to hype up the fight by creating drama to get as many viewers as possible, and it wouldn't be surprising if all this "Mayweather only wanted an exhibition match" is to create attention towards the fight.

[serjent05]

There's no need to hype up the fight, as these fighters' ability to draw a crowd had already been tested. Even with their current age, they could still sell a lot of tickets. Remember, they are the record holder for the most sold boxing match in history in 2015.

I don't doubt their ability to draw a crowd to this fight, but when it comes to boxing, it is fairly common to hype up the fight by creating drama to get as many viewers as possible, and it wouldn't be surprising if all this "Mayweather only wanted an exhibition match" is to create attention towards the fight.

True, in terms of marketing, the noisier and more controversial the upcoming fight is, the more they attract viewers.  The promotional team of any boxer know this so I also agree that all these noises are planned.  The possibility of canceling the fight makes fans more eager for the fight to push through.  It is all a mind game when it comes to marketing a fight.  But obviously, it is also true that there is also possibilities of canceling the fight in the middle of preparation.

[Yaunfitda]

Like I what said before, anything can still change. There’s always chance of cancellation or turning the fight into an exhibition, just like what’s being we talked about now.

But honestly, it feels like there’s reason why Floyd Mayweather is calling it an exhibition fight. Aside from protecting his record, this whole exhibition angle seems like part of the promotion strategy to create more buzz and discussion.
In the end, I still think it could turn into professional fight later on, since that’s what the fans really want. And for sure, Mayweather knows they’ll earn much more if it becomes an official professional match. He even said it himself that he cares about the money.

That's what we want, we don't want to see and pay tickets and then there are engagement between the two. We all know that Floyd is known to be back peddle and run during the fight. So imagine if this is a exhibition match, for sure Floyd will be in his bike most of the rounds. As compare to being a pro-fight, he will have to really face Manny in the middle as for sure Manny is going to chase him and Floyd doing his best defensive effort. So for the fans, we want this to be a true professional fight. If Floyd wins and betting on him then good, he keeps his record. But at least we might have seen Manny really doing his best effort to beat him. So let's wait if this is just to make noises on this fight or it is true that Floyd sign because he thought that this is a exhibition fight.

[Sithara007]

Last time when these two met (Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao 2015), there were a total of 4.6 million PPV buys (that is even more than the 4.3 million buys recorded for the Floyd Mayweather vs McGregor fight). For comparison, the Canelo vs GGG fight recorded only 1.3 million buys. Mayweather vs Canelo also brought only 2.2 million buys. This means that Mayweather and Pacquiao is the perfect combination. Let's see how much these two will be able to pull  this time around. Hype seems to be a bit subdued, at least in the social media. Hopefully it will catch up as the match date approaches.

[Dave1]

Remember that most boxers that went bankrupt or might have lost their earnings might have been:

a. business that failed
b. drugs
c. alcohol
d. child support
e. gambling addiction

Floyd also has history of domestic violence and even sued by his ex-mama for a huge amount of money if my memory is right. So maybe along that line, Floyd could have been with that problem after his retirement and so he can't sustain his lifestyle.

Money management has been a long standing problem with may of the athletes and boxers are no exception. Remember what happened to Mike Tyson, one of the most successful boxing legends of all time? That said, Manny Pacquiao has maintained a stricter money regime during and after his professional career. And that is also one of the reason why his net worth as of now is higher than that of Floyd. That said, Pacquiao had his fare share of failed ventures, such as his presidential campaign of 2022. Spent a lot of money and effort, without any returns.

Most retired athletes who stages their comeback are acused of returning for the money that they are bankrupt or about to and needed the limelight to come back and rake in some money to continue their expensive lifestyles. But fans mostly don't consider whether they are staging a comeback for the love of the game, may they are addicted to being the ring and fighting even though they are retired. I've seen some extravagant lifestyles of Mayweather, I believe that it is perhaps only boxing that can sustain such a lifestyle and he needed to make some money in the ring or maybe his doing fine and wants to test himself again in the ring. Whatever his innermost reasons are we wouldn't know but what we know is we are about to see two legends collide once again, better late than never.

This is just my personal opinion, this is not the first time that he had made a comeback, but he only fights in exhibition matches because it's easy money. So there is no love for the game for Floyd already, he is known to be a "health comes first" attitude in this sports. But now that this fight is going to be a professional, doesn't want to take the risk against Manny that's why he insisted on just exhibition match. And yes, it's true, they need to sustain their lifestyle after retiring and as I have pointed out there could be many reasons for Floyd bank account to drain.

Maybe Manny has issues too, but between the two, I think it is Floyd that is more flamboyant. Manny has his family in the Philippines, and so it's tie knight and for sure that is his priority. As compare to Floyd, friends, expensive cars, gambling.

[Sithara007]

I was checking the odds for this match, and seems like Floyd Mayweather Jr is the favorite. Spread is -175 for Floyd, compared to +150 for Pacquiao. I suspect that these sort of odds may be underestimating Pacquiao. Both these boxers are no longer active in professional boxing, and IMO Pacquiao has maintained a better shape and fitness level when compared to Floyd. That should give him an advantage, although I am not sure whether it will pull him ahead of Floyd during the match or not. BTW, the match will take place in the United States, which might give some sort of advantage to Floyd.

I will post when more odds become available. At the moment not too many of the sportsbooks are accepting bets for this match.

[TopTort777]

Last time when these two met (Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao 2015), there were a total of 4.6 million PPV buys (that is even more than the 4.3 million buys recorded for the Floyd Mayweather vs McGregor fight). For comparison, the Canelo vs GGG fight recorded only 1.3 million buys. Mayweather vs Canelo also brought only 2.2 million buys. This means that Mayweather and Pacquiao is the perfect combination. Let's see how much these two will be able to pull  this time around. Hype seems to be a bit subdued, at least in the social media. Hopefully it will catch up as the match date approaches.

You wont get PPV numbers this time, as fight will be aired on Netflix. They dont sell PPV or run single event/movie/tv series episode sales. They charge for monthly subscription. To be honest, I cant calculate or predict if that method of selling content is better. PPVs cost usually couple of tens bucks. Netflix monthly subscription is less than 10 bucks for a month (it differs from country to country). I suppose they hope that you will buy subscription to watch that fight, then forget to cancel it or during month you will find content that will hook you to watching Netflix and you will continue paying.

[coinrifft]

I still shaking my head as what could be the real reason for all of this drama coming from Floyd. Is he really protecting that 0 as what we say? Or just hyping the fight to the higher level so that even casual fans are now exciting about this fight? Although I might be biased as I'm a Filipino. But for other nationalities, have you heard someone talking about this fight? It is effective method for Floyd to create more noises so that they can break records again and stay at the top of the highest PPV in history? Or it's Floyd is really hell bent on protecting his 0?

We don't really know if Mayweather is doing this to protect his record, but what we know is that drama/conflict is often used to hype up and make noise about fights. Right now, all we can do is make assumptions about it, and my opinion about it is that Mayweather is stirring up this drama to hype up their fight.

But the question is do they still need to make noises? They are still both well known in boxing, they are both legends already. They made boxing famous because on how they defeat and win fights, specially Manny's style of going all in in every fight while Floyd's defensive genius is at show. That's why I still can't believed what will make Floyd not to fight Manny assuming that they are a lot of money in the line? So it begs me to question that he might be really afraid that his 0 might go if he lose this fight to Manny Pacquiao.

[bbc.reporter]

I was checking the odds for this match, and seems like Floyd Mayweather Jr is the favorite. Spread is -175 for Floyd, compared to +150 for Pacquiao. I suspect that these sort of odds may be underestimating Pacquiao. Both these boxers are no longer active in professional boxing, and IMO Pacquiao has maintained a better shape and fitness level when compared to Floyd. That should give him an advantage, although I am not sure whether it will pull him ahead of Floyd during the match or not. BTW, the match will take place in the United States, which might give some sort of advantage to Floyd.

I will post when more odds become available. At the moment not too many of the sportsbooks are accepting bets for this match.

I disagree. Floyd Gayweather has demands on the prefight negotiations already. The chance of Gayweather to win is very much close to 100%! If there was an underestimation for this, I reckon this is on the -175 odds on Gayweather that you have mentioned. This should certainly should be -1750. Floyd has chosen the referee and the judges. He will only float like a butterfly without the stinging of the bee and he will still be the winner hhehehhe.

[FinneysTrueVision]

He is dead serious about avenging his loss and handing Mayweather his first loss. Pacquiao has nothing to lose, while Mayweather has everything to lose; this is why he is belittling Pacquiao's efforts to make it a professional match.

He even called Pacquiao a washed-up fighter, but I believe the match will eventually become a professional fight because he has already signed the contract and made a cash advance. If he denies that, then he will be charged with breach of contract.
Mayweather's decision is tied to the contract, whether he likes it or not.

That is not a real post. They made it blurry to make it seem more authentic but it is a fake screenshot with AI generated text.

The odds on Polymarket give Mayweather a 67% chance of winning, so it is odd that he is so scared of losing his perfect record that he is trying to weasel his way out of the contract he signed. The way he has no respect for legally enforceable agreements, it is easy to understand why he has so many problems with his finances right now.