Newbies be careful with old members, when they PM you for business.

[SuperBitMan]

I saw a thread some weeks ago where someone was complaining, that he received a message about investment from someone in this forum.
Most of this old members that are messaging newbies in other to scam them has already been given negative feedback by DT members in this forum, so when you see a PM from old forum members, what you should do is to check their feedback and from there feedback you will know the kind of person they are.
But I will advise, regardless of their feedback tell them to make it public or forget about it.

And for the DT members if you are giving trust to someone, make sure the member is trustworthy because if they are involved in scamming newbies here, and the newbie says he believed the member was trustworthy because of the trust you gave the member, you too will be held accountable to some extent.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Theres an old saying in real life "Dont talk to stranger" might be good to do that if you are newbie thats the best prevention to scam.

[Zaguru12]

I saw a thread some weeks ago where someone was complaining, that he received a message about investment from someone in this forum.
Most of this old members that are messaging newbies in other to scam them has already been given negative feedback by DT members in this forum, so when you see a PM from old forum members, what you should do is to check their feedback and from there feedback you will know the kind of person they are.
But I will advise, regardless of their feedback tell them to make it public or forget about it.

I was just coming from your other thread about people using similar old members name to register the forum and scam others which is similar to this. It is not about newbies alone but also old members everyone needs to becareful who they deal, scams are not regulated, accounts can get into wrong hands ( Change of hand) due to maybe hack and then the person will use it for scam.

Don’t fall for juicy offers, it’s actually wary seeing a member coming up to you and neither have an engagement before to offer business simply make it public like others use to do on reputation or lending board even if you have had engagement with the person before.

And for the DT members if you are giving trust to someone, make sure the member is trustworthy because if they are involved in scamming newbies here, and the newbie says he believed the member was trustworthy because of the trust you gave the member, you too will be held accountable to some extent.

You know it is wrong to trust someone just because I trust them, I might have had a business(es) with such person in the past that went successful and decided that I trust the person, doesn’t need you to blindly trust such person. Or am I accountable when someone else trust the person blindly later and he got scammed?

[SuperBitMan]

And for the DT members if you are giving trust to someone, make sure the member is trustworthy because if they are involved in scamming newbies here, and the newbie says he believed the member was trustworthy because of the trust you gave the member, you too will be held accountable to some extent.

You know it is wrong to trust someone just because I trust them, I might have had a business(es) with such person in the past that went successful and decided that I trust the person, doesn’t need you to blindly trust such person. Or am I accountable when someone else trust the person blindly later and he got scammed?

I understand your point, but have you asked yourself why trust shows green and a negative feedback shows red on people’s profiles, the reason is because the forum wants you to stay away from accounts with negative feedback when dealing with them and be free with those with trust.
The forum gives DT to wise and intelligent members and their feedback is always relied upon, and that is why you see campaign managers include it on their rule that if you receive a negative feedback from a DT you will be removed immediately, and they always do it, so if members can trust your negative feedback they will also trust your trust feedback and so I believe they should be held accountable for trusting someone that scammed another member.
Before trusting a member you need to really know him and run business with him for long time.

So if someone you trusted scammed someone you should be removed as a DT member immediately.

[Shadiq]

I don't see anything new or old here. Rather, I emphasize the issue of familiar and unfamiliar. If you are a new or an old person, there is no problem, refrain from talking to people you don't know. It is wiser to ignore strangers completely than to talk cautiously to strangers. When I receive a message from someone, the first thing I try to know is their identity, if they are a familiar person, I talk to them, if they are a stranger, I ignore them. In the case of forum members, I monitor their accounts carefully. Are they regular or irregular in the forum, the tags on their profile and their activity on the forum.

[TokenTikas]

But I will advise, regardless of their feedback tell them to make it public or forget about it.

When it comes to transactions, whether the member is new or old. I believe proper verification is always necessary before making any deal. Especially when new members send a PM about a transaction, it naturally feels a bit suspicious because nowadays many kinds of scams are happening around us.

I'm also a new member here, so if I send a PM to high-ranked member in the forum, it is normal for that person to look at me with some suspicion at first. However, if the transaction is done openly then there will be no issue. That is why open transactions are very important for new members. If a new member truly wants to carry out a solid and legal deal, there should be no problem making it public and they should be able to handle such matters smoothly.

[Pi-network314159]

I saw a thread some weeks ago where someone was complaining, that he received a message about investment from someone in this forum.
Most of this old members that are messaging newbies in other to scam them has already been given negative feedback by DT members in this forum, so when you see a PM from old forum members, what you should do is to check their feedback and from there feedback you will know the kind of person they are.
But I will advise, regardless of their feedback tell them to make it public or forget about it.

I think I have recieved such message from some old members here asking me to buy account and some other things, but I ignored them because they are of no use to me. after looking at their records, it shows that they are already know scammers in the forum with many tags. So most time you don't need to worry yourself about them since theh are known already by the community. It is only lack of observation that will make you fall for them.

And for the DT members if you are giving trust to someone, make sure the member is trustworthy because if they are involved in scamming newbies here, and the newbie says he believed the member was trustworthy because of the trust you gave the member, you too will be held accountable to some extent.

I believe the DT member knows the best tag to give to people depending on their offences, they do some research properly before dishing the tag out, not just doing for doing sake. a DT that gives positive tag without proper investigation may be removed from DT. I think DT knows their role and will not fall for that chip trap, except otherwise.

[ZAINmalik75]

I saw a thread some weeks ago where someone was complaining, that he received a message about investment from someone in this forum.
Most of this old members that are messaging newbies in other to scam them has already been given negative feedback by DT members in this forum, so when you see a PM from old forum members, what you should do is to check their feedback and from there feedback you will know the kind of person they are.
But I will advise, regardless of their feedback tell them to make it public or forget about it.

Yes, whenever you are approached by a member with an investment offer, the first thing to check is their trust feedback. If they have recieved a positive feedback from a reputable members that's actually a good sign. But if you see negative or even neutral feedback from reputable members, it is best to be cautious and stay away from them. Also its better to report them. Speaking of neutral ones, we need to read them carefully to understand whether the person is genuinely trustworthy or not.

Regardless of whether the member is old or new, I always check their post history, rank, and registration date. If the case is serious, I would check them on BPIP tool for any signs like recent password changes or unusual activity. That can help me determine if the account is under the original owner or it if might have been sold. But the passwor changes and such signs don't tell us explicitly that the account has been sold but it is better to check.

By the way, which case are you referring to, the one yo mentioned seeing a few weeks ago, could you share the link please?

[Majestic-milf]

 It's not always nice to interact with someone you don't know via PM because you can't know who is trustworthy and now that there are so many shady people buying accounts of trustworthy ones, it could easily get confusing. I mean, what kind of business do we need to have since I'm a newbie and I may not have suggested showing interest in partnering with someone?

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

The same way it appears to the newbies also can be made applicable to the experienced members as well with higher ranks, the idea here is not to trust anyone randomly without you having strong evidence on what to hold on to, talking about sending PM, we should not because we are receiving such from a member of this forum and completely trust them, we should not forget that scam is not being moderated here, any deal you have with a member is at your own risk because the forum will not be liable for such consequences that might come after it.

[sunsilk]

The same goes with the old members that are being PMed by the newbies, everyone needs to be careful if they have received a message out of nowhere trying to make business deals.

It's okay if they have received it out of good faith but we can understand if it's kind of sketchy or not.

Just don't talk to someone you don't even know trying to attract you with money offers.

[Pablo-wood]

Any investment campaign sent to PMs generally regardless of the order it comes be it newbie to old members of old members to newbies should be treated as a scam not minding who is involved. Any account can be hacked and used for any purpose. One has to be extremely careful in a pseudonymous space as this, account can change hands at any point in some cases inherited. To be on the safe end it is best to ignore PMs that has to do with investment if worst be create a thread and report such scenarios so that DT members can swing into action.

[TypoTonic]

And for the DT members if you are giving trust to someone, make sure the member is trustworthy because if they are involved in scamming newbies here, and the newbie says he believed the member was trustworthy because of the trust you gave the member, you too will be held accountable to some extent.

It's only their 'feedback' about the user. It doesn't guarantee that the person won't scam you, it's meant to help you determine whether that person seem trustworthy or not before dealing with them. You'll never know a person's true intention, so you still need to use your own judgement. Trust ratings can easily be deleted and replaced accordingly.

Before trusting a member you need to really know him and run business with him for long time.

It doesn't necessarily have to be like that. See LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system.

• If you believe someone can be trusted, even when you didn't trade with him, that too deserves positive feedback.

[Churchillvv]

Maybe a link to the thread you are referring to should be in the op don’t you think so? Furthermore, of course because of scam purposes that is why people offered escrow jobs in the forum and apart from making a transaction public so you don’t get scammed you can as well get a third party who is well trusted to maybe get involved and because their level of experience you could escape some scammers trap.

[Mia Chloe]

I saw a thread some weeks ago where someone was complaining, that he received a message about investment from someone in this forum.
Most of this old members that are messaging newbies in other to scam them has already been given negative feedback by DT members in this forum, so when you see a PM from old forum members, what you should do is to check their feedback and from there feedback you will know the kind of person they are.

Well I thought there were actually more newbie scammers around . Reason being they have nothing to lose . If they eventually get caught they just disappear and create another account to continue their aims but for higher ranked members it only happens when they already have lost their reputation.

Personally I'll advise newbies to refrain from transactions on the forum till they understand how the forum works and can differentiate scams.

[Zaguru12]

The forum gives DT to wise and intelligent members and their feedback is always relied upon, and that is why you see campaign managers include it on their rule that if you receive a negative feedback from a DT you will be removed immediately, and they always do it, so if members can trust your negative feedback they will also trust your trust feedback and so I believe they should be held accountable for trusting someone that scammed another member.
Before trusting a member you need to really know him and run business with him for long time.

So if someone you trusted scammed someone you should be removed as a DT member immediately.

You’re still going in circle because your suggestion doesn’t sits well with me.

Let me give you a little example, ok let’s say we both have had transactions before which went smoothly and you trust me for that so you let a positive feedback on my profile but then later I changed hands or habit and scammed another member, so I should also be held accountable because I trusted some I hard a successful transaction(s) because you blindly trust him because of me.

You can only actually distrust me if you have evidence that I aided the scammer or I continuously to trust him even after series of scam carried out by him in the forum.

If we go by your logic I think many members won’t be DT again because how many people trusted members that later scammed others.

I can only be penalized if I continue to trust someone even after he had scammed some members but not remove immediately a single scam happen

[SuperBitMan]

The forum gives DT to wise and intelligent members and their feedback is always relied upon, and that is why you see campaign managers include it on their rule that if you receive a negative feedback from a DT you will be removed immediately, and they always do it, so if members can trust your negative feedback they will also trust your trust feedback and so I believe they should be held accountable for trusting someone that scammed another member.
Before trusting a member you need to really know him and run business with him for long time.

So if someone you trusted scammed someone you should be removed as a DT member immediately.

You’re still going in circle because your suggestion doesn’t sits well with me.

Let me give you a little example, ok let’s say we both have had transactions before which went smoothly and you trust me for that so you let a positive feedback on my profile but then later I changed hands or habit and scammed another member, so I should also be held accountable because I trusted some I hard a successful transaction(s) because you blindly trust him because of me.

You can only actually distrust me if you have evidence that I aided the scammer or I continuously to trust him even after series of scam carried out by him in the forum.

If we go by your logic I think many members won’t be DT again because how many people trusted members that later scammed others.

I can only be penalized if I continue to trust someone even after he had scammed some members but not remove immediately a single scam happen

You are right and I understand your point very well now and I think it should be done like you just said, if someone is accused of a scam and there’s evidence, those that are trusting him should immediately remove there trust feedback and if they don’t and the person they trusted ends up scamming another person then those that trusted him should immediately be removed from DT and also sanctioned in another way.

[Floxynice]

Scammers won't come to you if you don't have something they want to snatch away from you. Upon launching my loan business on this forum, I got lots of telegram messages from scammers. Their demands were always thesame; they all want a private deal without making it public on the forum. That was an obvious red flag. If they were genuine, making their offers or interests public wouldn't have been a big deal to them.

Op is right, tell anyone who wants to have a deal with you to make it public. Scammers are good at convincing and brainwashing. If everything remains private, you should be bothered already.

[Dex_master25]

Am sure a newbie who gets this kind of PM, would be someone who has shown some potential in some way or may be believed to have some bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency in their wallet before they get targeted for such kind of messages.
All same, whatever be the case, i have known that scams often start with a too good to be true information that is often the hook that draws many into the trap.
Would it be wise to forward a message or PM of sort, to a senior member or someone who is like a leader here to confirm the source and possibly subject such account who sent such a PM to queries that should expose the truth?

[Amphenomenon]

Theres an old saying in real life "Dont talk to stranger" might be good to do that if you are newbie thats the best prevention to scam.

I feel this is for everyone even those we have done business with because accounts can be hacked or changed hands one way or another.
Signing message with their known wallet address will be helpful and checking their previous trust rating, and if it is pretty much huge amount, then using an escrow will be better for the business.

I saw a thread some weeks ago where someone was complaining, that he received a message about investment from someone in this forum.
Most of this old members that are messaging newbies in other to scam them has already been given negative feedback by DT members in this forum, so when you see a PM from old forum members, what you should do is to check their feedback and from there feedback you will know the kind of person they are.

Well I thought there were actually more newbie scammers around . Reason being they have nothing to lose . If they eventually get caught they just disappear and create another account to continue their aims but for higher ranked members it only happens when they already have lost their reputation.

Yeah there are more newbie scam but don't forget hack or bought account many of these owners gets these account for malicious purposes.