SmartGold01 merit source or farmer?

[FinneysTrueVision]

@FinneysTrueVision @lovesmayfamilis why the neutrals instead of negative though? There is enough evidence here for negatives already.

I was lenient in the hope they would show some contrition, but instead they displayed arrogance in the retaliatory feedback they gave. After reading the most recent posts about their merit sending behavior, they can no longer be given the benefit of the doubt. There is no good reason to go back months into the history of accounts, that are so obviously being farmed up, to send them merits for such low quality posts. There isn’t any doubt that something nefarious is going on. The only viable explanations are that those are SmartGold’s own alts or they are in cahoots with the owners.

Taking everything into account, I have updated the feedback and changed it to negative. Some might disagree with people being tagged for merit abuse, but there are other reasons also, and this is a special case because they are a merit source. My feedback might not matter enough to make a difference, but I would rather attempt to do something than allowing them to continue unchecked.

[hugeblack]

After this behavior, @SmartGold01 is not trustworthy:

Code:

~SmartGold01
~Adbitco

@igebotz^[1] If you have time, please review the trustworthiness of this account.

I am still waiting for intervention from admins. If this does not happen, I will add negative trust.

[1] https://loyce.club/trust/2026-04-11_Sat_08.20h/3423588.html

[Xiestar]

@FinneysTrueVision @lovesmayfamilis why the neutrals instead of negative though? There is enough evidence here for negatives already.

I was lenient in the hope they would show some contrition, but instead they displayed arrogance in the retaliatory feedback they gave. After reading the most recent posts about their merit sending behavior, they can no longer be given the benefit of the doubt. There is no good reason to go back months into the history of accounts, that are so obviously being farmed up, to send them merits for such low quality posts. There isn’t any doubt that something nefarious is going on. The only viable explanations are that those are SmartGold’s own alts or they are in cahoots with the owners.

Taking everything into account, I have updated the feedback and changed it to negative. Some might disagree with people being tagged for merit abuse, but there are other reasons also, and this is a special case because they are a merit source. My feedback might not matter enough to make a difference, but I would rather attempt to do something than allowing them to continue unchecked.

They are confident that their account will be fine regardless because this local board member banding together to defend themselves even their own staff.

There’s a case about user Wiwo cheating on altcoinstalk but ignored since fellow local member defending the user. Their local board is composed of some knowledgeable user that farming account legally through this merit jerking. You will notice most of their low rank user post the same way to farm merit.

They already established their merit network so it’s okay for them to lose few users reputation since merit abused can’t be use as proof to connect them. Even some transactions is now questionable proof because they are backing each other ass.

[hugeblack]

There’s a case about user Wiwo cheating on altcoinstalk but ignored since fellow local member defending the user. Their local board is composed of some knowledgeable user that farming account legally through this merit jerking. You will notice most of their low rank user post the same way to farm merit.

Can you add a link to this topic?

They already established their merit network so it’s okay for them to lose few users reputation since merit abused can’t be use as proof to connect them. Even some transactions is now questionable proof because they are backing each other ass.

Can you add or mention these accounts or activities in a separate topic?

[Xiestar]

There’s a case about user Wiwo cheating on altcoinstalk but ignored since fellow local member defending the user. Their local board is composed of some knowledgeable user that farming account legally through this merit jerking. You will notice most of their low rank user post the same way to farm merit.

Can you add a link to this topic?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5567688.0

The topic was locked because some user coincidentally from same local board bashed the OP while the OP himself is campaign manager on altcoinstalk.

About the 2nd request, merit abuse is not a valid proof to connect which is my only circumstantial evidence on my assumption. But notice how these guys shield each other in case someone connected to them was involved.

It’s up to you guys on how you will judge the situation. All this merit abuse rooted because campaign manager accept user based on merit count even though most of this jerker post is useless and dedicated for merit begging.

Hhampuz campaign alone employs more than 100 from the same local board of this merit source with all have 250+ merit earned each. @Smartgold1 complain of having less merit allocation makes sense now if you will supply an army of account like that. 

[Karl_3000]

They are confident that their account will be fine regardless because this local board member banding together to defend themselves even their own staff.

I have not seen any local board member that has been defending against allegations on this thread. Why are you lying?

After this behavior, @SmartGold01 is not trustworthy:

I think he or she has removed the unworthy trusts but he or she needs to change.

There’s a case about user Wiwo cheating on altcoinstalk but ignored since fellow local member defending the user. Their local board is composed of some knowledgeable user that farming account legally through this merit jerking. You will notice most of their low rank user post the same way to farm merit.

Can you add a link to this topic?

They already established their merit network so it’s okay for them to lose few users reputation since merit abused can’t be use as proof to connect them. Even some transactions is now questionable proof because they are backing each other ass.

Can you add or mention these accounts or activities in a separate topic?

Do not mind this person, I used AI to look for the thread, this is it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5567688.0

There are respected members that did not supported that person that posted the topic.

He know the two accounts did nothing wrong as far as the members of this forum are concerned but he brought what happened on altcoinstalks to Bitcointalk.

[Xiestar]

They are confident that their account will be fine regardless because this local board member banding together to defend themselves even their own staff.

I have not seen any local board member that has been defending against allegations on this thread. Why are you lying?

Lmao, You’re exactly one of them. Are you kidding me.

After this behavior, @SmartGold01 is not trustworthy:

I think he or she has removed the unworthy trusts but he or she needs to change.

There’s a case about user Wiwo cheating on altcoinstalk but ignored since fellow local member defending the user. Their local board is composed of some knowledgeable user that farming account legally through this merit jerking. You will notice most of their low rank user post the same way to farm merit.

Can you add a link to this topic?

They already established their merit network so it’s okay for them to lose few users reputation since merit abused can’t be use as proof to connect them. Even some transactions is now questionable proof because they are backing each other ass.

Can you add or mention these accounts or activities in a separate topic?

Do not mind this person, I used AI to look for the thread, this is it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5567688.0

There are respected members that did not supported that person that posted the topic.

He know the two accounts did nothing wrong as far as the members of this forum are concerned but he brought what happened on altcoinstalks to Bitcointalk.

Some user was already red tagged because they cheat on altcoinstalk. These user involved teleported their Bitcointalk account to altcoinstalk which means they are connected.

[Karl_3000]

Some user was already red tagged because they cheat on altcoinstalk. These user involved teleported their Bitcointalk account to altcoinstalk which means they are connected.

I think you need to wait for your brain to develop before posting on a thread like this. You can see AakZaki, Lovemayfamilies and other good members having valid discussion, do not proliferate this thread with useless discussion because you can see some of the respected members on this forum that defended both accounts already. What are you saying now, do you means they do not know what they are saying by going against the person that make that topic?

For your information, the user was not also tagged on altcoinstalks.

This thread is about Smartgold01 and Adbitco, you should leave what has been discussed before alone. You are only pained because the community did not support what you wished.

[Xiestar]

Some user was already red tagged because they cheat on altcoinstalk. These user involved teleported their Bitcointalk account to altcoinstalk which means they are connected.

I think you need to wait for your brain to develop before posting on a thread like this. You can see AakZaki, Lovemayfamilies and other good members having valid discussion, do not proliferate this thread with useless discussion because you can see some of the respected members on this forum that defended both accounts already. What are you saying now, do you means they do not know what they are saying by going against the person that make that topic?

For your information, the user was not also tagged on altcoinstalks.

This thread is about Smartgold01 and Adbitco, you should leave what has been discussed before alone. You are only pained because the community did not support what you wished.

I think you are the one that needs to stop. I’m not even talking to you while @hugeblack ask me a question which you are trying to hijack. I didn’t specifically mentioned the topic while I only use it as a reference that your fellow local board user do this shielding in the past like what you are doing right now.

You sounds like a guilty retard here. You just pop out of nowhere and start your drama. I’m not even interested to discuss with you.

[SmartGold01]

At first I want to formally apologize to those whom I have gave neutral feedback, which is lovesmayfamilies and FinneysTrueVision, I acted this due to how I was emotionally unstable and drained. It is shocking to see that such a thing just came up and I was also surprised they way everything where happening, after some thought I noticed that I was too biased on my judgement by misusing the trust system which I shouldn't. Although, there is no one which this would happened to they would be happy for the allegation which knowing too well that I have never involved in merit abuse.

It was heart broken, in fact it was @examplens comment which gave me the courage to come out to speak as being silent could be that bad. I am a merit source and I distribute merit accordingly and to how I found any profile worthy of meriting. I could remembered a topic like that, where people talks about how merit should be distributed. Many people said lot of things about what actually attracted them to distribute merit which everyone has their own ways of reviewing and analyzing profiles. However, I am saying that I do not abuse merits and even theymos already explained everything in pm on the day he made me source, hence I can't compromise with his words and I sticked to his directives how it should be..

Therefore, apologize to everyone here, that if I have misused or abused the trust system, I deem it necessary to say that I am very sorry for the way I have used the trust system and feedback. Hence, I have reversed my feedback from both two, which is FinneysTrueVision and lovesmayfamilies.

To Everyone who has showed interest on this case, I also in one way apologize to you all including yahoo62278, and hugeblack for the misused of the Trust system.

Thank you

[stompix]

I am a merit source and I distribute merit accordingly and to how I found any profile worthy of meriting. I could remembered a topic like that, where people talks about how merit should be distributed. Many people said lot of things about what actually attracted them to distribute merit which everyone has their own ways of reviewing and analyzing profiles. However, I am saying that I do not abuse merits and even theymos already explained everything in pm on the day he made me source, hence I can't compromise with his words and I sticked to his directives how it should be..

Good, nice story, obviously avoiding the whole adbitco disappearing post and stuff, but let's deal a bit with that merit..then can you explain this?





I really wanna hear a good explanation on the "coincidence"....
You know, something better than your cat got hold of your laptop and decided to frame you because you have switched from Purina to Whiskas

[SmartGold01]

I am a merit source and I distribute merit accordingly and to how I found any profile worthy of meriting. I could remembered a topic like that, where people talks about how merit should be distributed. Many people said lot of things about what actually attracted them to distribute merit which everyone has their own ways of reviewing and analyzing profiles. However, I am saying that I do not abuse merits and even theymos already explained everything in pm on the day he made me source, hence I can't compromise with his words and I sticked to his directives how it should be..

Good, nice story, obviously avoiding the whole adbitco disappearing post and stuff, but let's deal a bit with that merit..then can you explain this?





I really wanna hear a good explanation on the "coincidence"....
You know, something better than your cat got hold of your laptop and decided to frame you because you have switched from Purina to Whiskas

As a merits source or not, giving out 6 - 10 or more merits to a user is not  much or bad, I viewed and read post before meriting, at least I have seen merits a huge number of merits dumped due to how funny or worthy the post could, if watch out this user wasn't the only person whom is receiving merits from me and as merit source whom people look up to would not for any day hoard back merits and allow it decade?  That is not a Merits abuse.

[Karl_3000]

As a merits source or not, giving out 6 - 10 or more merits to a user is not  much or bad, I viewed and read post before meriting, at least I have seen merits a huge number of merits dumped due to how funny or worthy the post could, if watch out this user wasn't the only person whom is receiving merits from me and as merit source whom people look up to would not for any day hoard back merits and allow it decade?  That is not a Merits abuse.

What he is saying is that why are all those posts deleted almost at once?

If all the posts are on a single thread, that is acceptable. But before they can come up with this, it is possible the posts are on different threads. Are the posts on different threads.

If they are on different threads, they will see it suspicious.

Another thing that can make people not see it suspicious is if it is moderators that deleted the posts on the different threads but that will only mean that you are sending merit to poor posters. Did moderators deleted the posts?

Also if the posts were deleted after and not before this allegation, they will see it to be very suspicious.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I am a merit source and I distribute merit accordingly and to how I found any profile worthy of meriting. I could remembered a topic like that, where people talks about how merit should be distributed. Many people said lot of things about what actually attracted them to distribute merit which everyone has their own ways of reviewing and analyzing profiles. However, I am saying that I do not abuse merits and even theymos already explained everything in pm on the day he made me source, hence I can't compromise with his words and I sticked to his directives how it should be..

Good, nice story, obviously avoiding the whole adbitco disappearing post and stuff, but let's deal a bit with that merit..then can you explain this?





I really wanna hear a good explanation on the "coincidence"....
You know, something better than your cat got hold of your laptop and decided to frame you because you have switched from Purina to Whiskas

Yes, and they become even more aggressive when a place opens up in the company's signature, and then the merits suddenly miraculously merit one day from the "local" source of merit for posts that were written four months ago.


 The next step, of course, is to apply for the signature of the company .



I wonder if this is truly proper and good "work" from the merit source or just a shameless push for their

own alt🤝?

There are posts here that, as usual, were rated several months ago and are of no value. They apparently consider everyone to be an idiots who does not understand how several accounts have distributed the necessary amount of merit to this account at the same time. I can't swear like Satofan44, but I'm totally on his side right now🤬.

At first I want to formally apologize ........

I don't need your apologies, just like I don't need your PM. I wasn't going to trust you before, and I'm not going to trust you in the future. And from your first topic to the suggestion that you be a source of merit, I was against it, knowing perfectly well how and where they would be spent. The red line to check your accounts was when you asked for even more merit from the admin and asked to check your useless posts in order to get more merit for them.

So I don't care, and I don't give a damn whether you removed the tag or not; it doesn't bother me at all... My heart beats steadily, but sometimes, seeing such greed and arrogance, it begins to get irritated by such “characters” as you.

There's no need to pretend and talk about regret and other nonsense. You are a farmer who shamelessly "spawned" several alternative accounts. I also gave examples of how you awarded merit to purchased accounts for posts that "your people" did not write.  FinneysTrueVision has provided compelling evidence of a connection, and in this case, you and your alts violate the ban.

In short, I would ask everyone not to trust you, just as I would forbid you to be a source of merit. There are other, normal sources of merit in your locale, unlike you.🤮🤮

What he is saying is that why are all those posts deleted almost at once?

They haven't been removed, but the locale itself is ignored.

[stompix]

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Damn, I looked all over the place for that post and never opened that topic as I knew it was about other farmers, I started to think I was hallucinating about it.
But those 3 are not linked to this one, right? Yet...Right? 

What he is saying is that why are all those posts deleted almost at once?

I wasn't talking about the merited post, you see them as deleted because they are in the Nigerian board and you probably have it on ignore, I was pointing at this:

All of his early wallets that he left on the forum have been deleted.

As a merits source or not, giving out 6 - 10 or more merits to a user is not  much or bad, I viewed and read post before meriting, at least I have seen merits a huge number of merits dumped due to how funny or worthy the post could, if watch out this user wasn't the only person whom is receiving merits from me and as merit source whom people look up to would not for any day hoard back merits and allow it decade?  That is not a Merits abuse.

Insert new coin, try again, one last time
How did you merit 3 posts with 6 merits , posts that were two and three months old, exactly one hour after that guy tried his luck in a campaign that counted earned merits for selecting participants?

I'm not the guy who throws tags at everyone unless you really piss me off, but once I hit post, it will stay there till the end of the world, so how about you come clean with it?

[hugeblack]

I have added negative trust. If you truly care about your local community, it is best to voluntarily give up being a merit source. Otherwise, when such abuse is discovered, some of these accounts will be deMerited.

[Pandu Geddon]

How did you merit 3 posts with 6 merits , posts that were two and three months old, exactly one hour after that guy tried his luck in a campaign that counted earned merits for selecting participants?

It would make sense if, by coincidence, the account that received Merit had submitted a post review request to the Merit source. But it seems that didn't happen. 
Because the last post review request from the account that received the Merit was at the end of last year, and the post submitted for review was not the one that received Merit. 

I don't know if SmartGold01, as the Merit source, has its own list of accounts that secretly request post reviews from them. But since this case involves a Merit source, shouldn't the opinions of moderators and admins also be considered?

[dragonvslinux]

Sorry to interrupt, just thought I'd try clarify the following off topic misinformation. I forgot how people write shit here without a source and hope others will believe it  

There’s a case about user Wiwo cheating on altcoinstalk but ignored since fellow local member defending the user.

Nope, it wasn't ignored there were 2 Judges and myself who reviewed the case and it was closed due to lack of evidence, hoods were peaked under etc.
They were "defended" by examplens over there, who isn't active in Nigerian section to my knowledge.

Can you add a link to this topic?

Since no-one appeared to be able to find it this is the original topic over there that was quoted over here.
As Karl_3000 said, no user was red tagged regarding this.

Lmao, You’re exactly one of them. Are you kidding me.

I guess I must be part of the grand conspiracy as well.

[lovesmayfamilis]

It would make sense if, by coincidence, the account that received Merit had submitted a post review request to the Merit source. But it seems that didn't happen. 
Because the last post review request from the account that received the Merit was at the end of last year, and the post submitted for review was not the one that received Merit. 

Yeah, similarly, this account applied for merit to two additional "secret " sources of merit, which, just as he needed to apply for participation, found a very interesting topic that SmartGold01 had seen the day before.  I'm surprised at their patient reading, since the topic was also written in February. How much time did they spend, really? The only normal sender was Mia Chloe, and everyone else is so stupid that they don't think that it's through such actions that you can lay a "thread" to their common interaction.
As someone who is good at finding alternative accounts, haven't you thought about this?

[Satofan44]

I have added negative trust. If you truly care about your local community, it is best to voluntarily give up being a merit source. Otherwise, when such abuse is discovered, some of these accounts will be deMerited.

Perhaps some of you might have not consciously realized this, but the corruption here is so deeply entrenched that people who get into positions of power that enable more abuse tend to do whatever possible thing they can to retain this position. Whether it is in form of excuses, false evidence, vouches by friends and colleagues and so forth. A honorable person in a position of power would voluntarily give up their role after committing a series of much smaller mistakes, after all they are in the position to actually help others who deserve it and not to abuse it for their own benefit and that of others that they know. However, as you can see there are almost no honorable people in these positions anymore especially in relation to local boards -- they are almost all involved in their own groups of farming (many separate groups per local board) and help each other leech off of the forum.

There are posts here that, as usual, were rated several months ago and are of no value. They apparently consider everyone to be an idiots who does not understand how several accounts have distributed the necessary amount of merit to this account at the same time. I can't swear like Satofan44, but I'm totally on his side right now🤬.

I appreciate the strictness. Too many DT members here are completely lenient despite the countless and endless number of cases that are being presented. Obviously such an approach is mistaken in such an environment, especially when there are trying to pass off a lot of their abuse as "coincidences". Why don't they coincidentally give out merit to people who are not part of their groups at just the right moment when they need it?