Thinkers vs Doers

[Agbamoni]

I so much like the part were you talked about the world not applauding thinkers, but doers.. it’s so true..  A lot of people out there has taught and ideas that could make the world better that what it is today, but just because they aren’t good in executing their ideas, All of those potential life saving taught and idea are just sitting dormant on a paper, in their head..

On a serious note, we human have to know how to balance been a thinker and a doer, because thinking alone may be cool, but isn’t worth it..

Basically, we live in a world where neither thinks and doers are the boss in most top companies. Both thinkers and doers are paid handsomely to work in an organisation owned by someone with fame, status, money, and power.

Let's take for example, Elon Musk. Elon Musk is actually not the brain behind everything he is doing; he has people who do research, which are the thinkers, and people who bring that research to realty which are the workers.

[barbara44]

Basically, we live in a world where neither thinks and doers are the boss in most top companies. Both thinkers and doers are paid handsomely to work in an organisation owned by someone with fame, status, money, and power.

Let's take for example, Elon Musk. Elon Musk is actually not the brain behind everything he is doing; he has people who do research, which are the thinkers, and people who bring that research to realty which are the workers.

I disagree, you think Elon isn't a doer? Jeff isn't one? Or most companies like even a simple hotel chain. They do it, that's why they are there. Of course that their workers have to also do, and even be thinkers, but the reality is that if they didn't do it, the owners didn't actually went and did it, then the worker doing anything would not help.

For example, Elon Musk did not created the tesla cars, he is not the founder, it was founded by other people, but those people did not have money so Elon bought them out, but he did that, he actually  did buy them, that action is doing, and that's what we are talking about here. You do not have to create it, you just have to actually get up and do something to grow bigger.

[savetheFORUM]

Thinking a lot makes me stressful.
I'd do what I have been thinking and that's only for my sake and to make it happen, I need to do be a doer.
There are people who like to be the doer of their words and thoughts rather than remain the mastermind of something without any application.

Well, who doesn't anyway? lol. I'm sure that even the genius people can experienced it too.

What do you mean it is only for your sake? Sorry but I find it selfish. So if other orders you to do something (say your mother) You won't do it?

There are people who like to be the doer of their words and thoughts rather than remain the mastermind of something without any application.

I think that is the same as the phrase called as ' jack of all trades, master of none ' . But I think on that phrase that I said, there is still an action that has been done. It is just that the person may not only be committed or contented on one thing.

Execution means that you're serious with your plans and you'll need to pass it on to the doers if you're a thinker.
But if you're both of them, and making things happen then that's a good thing for yourself as it's an advantage.

Actually, there are still some that are not serious. The advantage if we are also a doer is that we can solo all the profits but it may still have a disadvantage too and that is the added workload. 

[lizarder]

There are many kinds of personalities in the world. Some characters may even clash due to differences. But if we want to improve economically, we may need to change some parts of ourselves. People believe that the Doers are the ones who win the economic challenge. These are the ones who take the risks and just jump. They’re not afraid of change but rather crave it. They adapt well and they have a wide network.

I remember my parents saying that if our character isn't formed based on our abilities, we will never be able to face life's challenges. Differences are something that may occur in human life, but how can these differences be viewed in a positive light, even though sometimes characteristics clash with the differences we intended. Thinkers and doers are two different things, but they can complement each other when combined well, clearly demonstrating the differences that we can leverage for growth.

Everyone must be willing to take risks if they want to achieve success. From these experiences, we can slowly adapt to achieve the success we desire. If there is nothing at stake then how can we possibly know success because the process we go through will provide experience of the changes that need to be made and that is how successful people approach the life they live.

[Antikyc_]

Most people here say you need both and that's fair but let's be real, thinkers who never act end up with nothing but ideas sitting in their head. At least doers learn from their mistakes (if they make any) and move forward.

[Vlatlume]

I think both matters, just in different ways.

Doers move fast and take action, which is important because opportunities don't wait. But at the same time, acting without thinking can lead to mistakes, especially in things like investing or business. Thinkers, on the other hand, are more careful. They analyze and plan, which helps avoid bad decisions. The downside is that they can sometimes overthink and miss chances.

From what I've seen, the people who do well are a mix of both. They think enough to understand the risk, but still take action when it makes sense. So it's not really about choosing one. It's not about knowing when to think and when to move.

[Bitcoin.com97]

For me the both goes hand in hand , you get to think it through before you do , thinkers alway have a deep insight about things, rational thinkers don’t move with emotion , they normally depend on logic , which can guard their decisions making, and more of  their brain in action , if one possess these characteristics of a thinkers the ability to become a doer won’t be much on anybody again , so before you go into anything, be a thinker, think about the good, the worst, picture the future you have to put a positive and negative side of it because that is the works of a thinker before putting in work which is the doer ability, you can’t be a doer without been a thinker.

[jostorres]

I remember my parents saying that if our character isn't formed based on our abilities, we will never be able to face life's challenges. Differences are something that may occur in human life, but how can these differences be viewed in a positive light, even though sometimes characteristics clash with the differences we intended. Thinkers and doers are two different things, but they can complement each other when combined well, clearly demonstrating the differences that we can leverage for growth.

Everyone must be willing to take risks if they want to achieve success. From these experiences, we can slowly adapt to achieve the success we desire. If there is nothing at stake then how can we possibly know success because the process we go through will provide experience of the changes that need to be made and that is how successful people approach the life they live.

Number one thing that my parents did as a wrong way of raising a kid was to shelter me. I wanted a toy? I got it. I wanted a new food? I ate it. I wanted candy? I got it. Basically I was a kid who never needed for something, my dad was a rich man at his peak, and I lived the best experience as a kid for it. Sure we were not millionaires who owned yacths, hell my dad didn't even had a home, we lived in a rented house. But at the same time, I do not remember anything as a kid that I wanted and couldn't get. PC? Sure, Playstation? Sure.

These type of people do not become doers that easily, because we are spoiled. It took me a horrible 5-6 years of work where my boss was a piece of shit to learn the value of salary and living. Now I own my house, and have a great job, because I learned through that painful experience what my parents did not teach me.

[lizarder]

Number one thing that my parents did as a wrong way of raising a kid was to shelter me. I wanted a toy? I got it. I wanted a new food? I ate it. I wanted candy? I got it. Basically I was a kid who never needed for something, my dad was a rich man at his peak, and I lived the best experience as a kid for it. Sure we were not millionaires who owned yacths, hell my dad didn't even had a home, we lived in a rented house. But at the same time, I do not remember anything as a kid that I wanted and couldn't get. PC? Sure, Playstation? Sure.

These type of people do not become doers that easily, because we are spoiled. It took me a horrible 5-6 years of work where my boss was a piece of shit to learn the value of salary and living. Now I own my house, and have a great job, because I learned through that painful experience what my parents did not teach me.

That means you were pampered and always given your wishes, so the process of developing an independent character seems a bit neglected, even though I understand they actually love you. When I was little, my parents were quite strict in their upbringing and didn't pamper me or even give me anything I wanted. This taught me to be independent. If I wanted something, I had to work in my parents' shop first. At first glance, that upbringing was a bit harsh, but I began to realize that what my parents did was a process of developing a character that would lead to independence, so now I understand more about how to earn money.

Parents have their own way of raising their children and sometimes it's harsh, but it actually teaches us valuable lessons for adulthood. Compared to children my age who got whatever they wanted, my life after growing up and getting married is much better than theirs. This is honestly my personal life experience and now I also apply it to my children so that they don't live in luxury but can strive to develop their own character through experience.

[Hanadawa]

For me the both goes hand in hand , you get to think it through before you do , thinkers alway have a deep insight about things, rational thinkers don’t move with emotion , they normally depend on logic , which can guard their decisions making, and more of  their brain in action , if one possess these characteristics of a thinkers the ability to become a doer won’t be much on anybody again , so before you go into anything, be a thinker, think about the good, the worst, picture the future you have to put a positive and negative side of it because that is the works of a thinker before putting in work which is the doer ability, you can’t be a doer without been a thinker.

Although both go hand in hand, if we go back to where the topic began, the OP mentioned the difference between thinkers and doers in economics. Thinkers are those who make logical and safe decisions in the economy. They desire stability, but in the economy such people tend to stagnate. On the other hand, doers are those who immediately try new things in business. They execute without thinking through a thorough plan. They are people who like to take risks. If successful, they can escape poverty and become wealthy. But if they fail, they will go bankrupt and leave behind debt. And I agree that both go hand in hand, but in different proportions. I am 60% thinker and 40% doer. I think logically first, and if there is a 50:50 chance, I will be the doer, taking risks but with the consequences I have considered.

[Jubilee58]

These two qualities are paramount to survive in today's economy. There are people who create ideas , think logically, but when you don't put your thoughts in practice, it makes no meaning then. Ideas can be wasted when you don't put them into action. So if you posses good ideas, put them in practice, and don't let it remain silent inside of you. Doing such thing will keep you stagnant and deprive you an important future.
Some people that remained unprogressive today is because they failed to put their ideas to work, they buried their ideas in their mind and did not even share them with people who can be of help, and enable them to grow.

[Juicyhome]

Doing without thinking could be unproductive, before you carry out any activities it's wise you think the positive way to handle it before you proceed, doing things without critical thinking might not give you the perfect result you desire.

There's no way you can achieve a great success without thinking and if you're a thinker and you don't act it's still a waste, it's impossible to separate the two words in life , we both have to be a thinker and a doer if we can overcome the world of limited resources.

[SPIDERMAN008]

These two qualities are paramount to survive in today's economy. There are people who create ideas , think logically, but when you don't put your thoughts in practice, it makes no meaning then. Ideas can be wasted when you don't put them into action. So if you posses good ideas, put them in practice, and don't let it remain silent inside of you. Doing such thing will keep you stagnant and deprive you an important future.
Some people that remained unprogressive today is because they failed to put their ideas to work, they buried their ideas in their mind and did not even share them with people who can be of help, and enable them to grow.

Many people have ideas but do not have the ability to implement them. Many people have ideas and have the ability but do not like to take risks. Considering everything, if you want to succeed in any work or business, you must first develop yourself properly. Then you have to move forward with the help of the right thinking.you will not succeed in your work if you do not give time of your idea . However, instead of wasting time by thinking too much, you should start any work with a little risk. Because starting something increases experience. You can get the right lessons from mistakes. That can be used future for better work.

[slapper]

Number one thing that my parents did as a wrong way of raising a kid was to shelter me. I wanted a toy? I got it. I wanted a new food? I ate it. I wanted candy? I got it. Basically I was a kid who never needed for something, my dad was a rich man at his peak, and I lived the best experience as a kid for it. Sure we were not millionaires who owned yacths, hell my dad didn't even had a home, we lived in a rented house. But at the same time, I do not remember anything as a kid that I wanted and couldn't get. PC? Sure, Playstation? Sure.

These type of people do not become doers that easily, because we are spoiled. It took me a horrible 5-6 years of work where my boss was a piece of shit to learn the value of salary and living. Now I own my house, and have a great job, because I learned through that painful experience what my parents did not teach me.

That means you were pampered and always given your wishes, so the process of developing an independent character seems a bit neglected, even though I understand they actually love you. When I was little, my parents were quite strict in their upbringing and didn't pamper me or even give me anything I wanted. This taught me to be independent. If I wanted something, I had to work in my parents' shop first. At first glance, that upbringing was a bit harsh, but I began to realize that what my parents did was a process of developing a character that would lead to independence, so now I understand more about how to earn money.

Parents have their own way of raising their children and sometimes it's harsh, but it actually teaches us valuable lessons for adulthood. Compared to children my age who got whatever they wanted, my life after growing up and getting married is much better than theirs. This is honestly my personal life experience and now I also apply it to my children so that they don't live in luxury but can strive to develop their own character through experience.

"Pampered" is kind of already contains the conclusion. It forecloses the other reading which is simply: loved in a way that perhaps didn't prepare them well. They are quite different framings and they result in different types of empathy.

The you that was in the shop of your parents, what was that kid really feeling then? Not in retrospect. Not now that you can see the outcome. During the moment of it. What we learn sometimes with hardship is resilience and self-reliance and all those good things. And occasionally what we also know below the surface, is that we are not worth anything unless we are working. That rest is laziness. It is disgraceful that one desires something without working to get it. Those are other lessons and they may be based on the same experience. I am not imposing this on you. I don't know you. Perhaps nothing of that was the case. But i think about how most part of human civilization inherit patterns. Not just consciously, like "my parents did X so i'll do X" but in the way our nervous system learns what normal feels like. What safety is like. What love feels like when it's delivered alongside expectation.

And then we bring up children out of that nervous system. Out of that experienced sense of what family is. I think you're doing it with real intention and love, that's obvious. But intention doesn't fully control outcome. Your children are not only taking in the lesson you are attempting to impart but all that surrounds the lesson. The feel of the manner in which it is presented. Whether they feel observed as they are moulded. Freedom without being noticed is nothing but being alone with better words.

I do not know what the correct answer is to this. I do not believe that anybody does. Parenting is nothing but this constant improvisation in which the stakes are colossal and the feedback loop is twenty years long. It is horrifying when you think of it too long.

I only think: observe them. Not because they are becoming independent. But whether they feel that home is where they can touch down when things go wrong. Perhaps that is more than anything.

[@ICON$]

Leaders vs Followers, Introverts vs Extroverts.

There are many kinds of personalities in the world. Some characters may even clash due to differences. But if we want to improve economically, we may need to change some parts of ourselves. People believe that the Doers are the ones who win the economic challenge. These are the ones who take the risks and just jump. They’re not afraid of change but rather crave it. They adapt well and they have a wide network.

Thinkers on the other hand are more rational and thinks about everything carefully. They want everything to make sense, be logical, and most of the time be perfect before they even make the step forward.

In today’s economy, are you a thinker or a doer? Which one is needed to survive the world?

One action is better than then 10000 thoughts without an action. For our economical growth we need people are innovative, who can produce values by there action this alone plays a vital role in the improvement or our economy (reduce Job scarcity by creating more job opportunities)

Like always say action speak louder than words

[bisdak40]

Do we really need to pick?

Both are needed for a great economy, and I think if there's understanding of both types of people, then it can become a better country. I do like people who think hard about what they will do. Professionalist. But it will depend on the situation.
There are times we badly need the Doers, too. Without even thinking it through, they just do it and accept every challenge in their way. Both are very important in society, and I think it should not be debated or ask on who we will pick. Again, situational.

I agree both are really important because before you do something you must think and to put that thinking into reality is you do something about it that is why both are important there is balance on both. you think on how to solve things especially if you are facing a problem you think for a good solution then you will act that solution that you have thought to solve it. that is why both are good.

[gwapako]

In today's economy, I consider myself a doer. I used to spend more time thinking and planning, but I realized that without action, nothing changes. Now, I choose to be proactive and take initiative. With the economy being unstable, I understand that I cannot rely on others alone. I need to act, adapt and work not just for myself but also for my family.

[AmaGold70]

Leaders vs Followers, Introverts vs Extroverts.

There are many kinds of personalities in the world. Some characters may even clash due to differences. But if we want to improve economically, we may need to change some parts of ourselves. People believe that the Doers are the ones who win the economic challenge. These are the ones who take the risks and just jump. They’re not afraid of change but rather crave it. They adapt well and they have a wide network.

Thinkers on the other hand are more rational and thinks about everything carefully. They want everything to make sense, be logical, and most of the time be perfect before they even make the step forward.

In today’s economy, are you a thinker or a doer? Which one is needed to survive the world?

If you are a good thinker, you should also be a doer to in other to survive the world. Is possible someone can become a thinker , but not a doer and in this case survival can become very hard, and if you are a doer without thinking very well, survival will equally be very hard. Therefore, is important you balance both qualities before you can make exploit. In life , it is good to put your knowledge to work, with this , you will be able to go far in life and achieve great things. When you watch round your environment or even the world, people are doing well in the economy, some are into technology and others are into entrepreneurship excelling in their various fields. They are good thinkers putting their knowledge to work.

[trendcoin]

Many people can’t control their emotions and are driven by them, so they live a mechanical life... Of course, thinking alone isn’t enough for economic success; we always need to take action, but we must be sure that the conclusions we reach are truly our own. I believe thinking is more important, but what’s even more important is being able to think with an objective perspective... For example, the markets are terrible today; maybe they will be even worse tomorrow. We shouldn’t act based on today’s thinking. I think the real problem is here: how many of us were able to wait with our money without acting on impulse, and how many of us spent our last bullet?

[Mr_Brilliant$]

I think in today's economy, one must be both a thinker and a doer. Thinkers provide robust designs and strategies that mitigate risks. Doers rapidly iterate and turn opportunities into concrete results. That's why i prioritize logic and data in decisions but plans with no action have limited value. The prototype must be quickly launched to the market, measured and then improved. Like a good engineer, i first consider the architecture and tests then set up automation and deliver results through continuous delivery. I think, no single approach is sufficient. The most reliable approach is to balance thought discipline with action speed...

Yeah a lot of people use to get stuck on one side..

Some people will overthink everything, having perfect plans but zero execution… while others will just rush in with no plans and end up learning the hard way..  it is good knowing when to slow down and think, and when to just move and figure things out on the go..

That balance you talked about is really needed... because thinking will give direction, while the action will give results… it will be difficult to win long term without both..