Reee: Vanishing CREATORS on the COLLECTIBLE Board: Is Toxic Behavior To Blame?

[nutildah]

howardsentell just deleted 22 posts in this thread he opened a while back. Here is the archived version of the thread for those who want to read it in full.

Among the posts deleted were those by members of the Collectibles community; many of whom rarely post about Reputational matters but felt compelled to speak out about howardsentell's disturbing behavior and/or hypocrisy.

This thread will serve as a non-moderated version of howardsentell's thread. Feel free to repost your deleted posts here if you think they have information that may be valuable to others before deciding to interact with this person.

Just a few of my posts he deleted, for posterity:

#1

There needs to be a change in behavior on the forum and we must address inappropriate conduct.

This is only your opinion, and inappropriate conduct gets discussed all the time, for far longer than you've been around. Many just like you have come and gone. People who think they are big and important, have an incident that cuts them down to size, and then spend their remaining posts fighting the system.

In hundreds of posts about how things need to change, you've failed to connect with more than a handful of people, and I'm guessing you're a customer of the few who are in agreement with you. If you want to gain actual credibility, start by practicing what you preach.

#2

Those who go against the main agenda will encounter hostility.

Is this not hostile behavior you're exhibiting?



You are pretty clearly threatening this person, even if they are just childish pussy threats. I honestly feel bad for anyone who has to put up with you. If you think this behavior is fine, you shouldn't be here, and you definitely shouldn't be telling others how to behave.

Moderators warning Alt Account

Having an alt account isn't against the rules, so the moderators won't do anything about it. For a guy who sure is big on rules, its odd that you've never been able to demonstrate a grasp of what they actually are. This is what I mean by practice what you preach.

#3

You know what you are doing is illegal. I will contact the authorities.

LOL. No, it is not. And no, you won't.

All you have is empty threats.

You don't think constant threats against users is a form of cyberbullying?

I would say you are one of the biggest hypocrites I've seen around here, but that's not true, this place attracts serious wackjobs all the time. Truth is you're a pretty mid wackjob.

The guy is doing his best Goebbles-level "Accuse the other of that you are guilty" mind game, trying to paint himself as a victim, all the while making threats against those who criticize him or point out his hypocrisy.

The forum traditionally has no tolerance for this type of individual. I imagine he'll see himself out shortly.

[anonymousminer]

Here are the important 2... the other one was just him being classless.

#1


#2

[yahoo62278]

I don't participate in the collectibles section so I opted to not comment in the thread created by howardsentell, but I am curious if he didn't realize that even if he deletes a post it is never really gone?

Had he just locked the thread he would have been better off as deleting so many replies only makes him look terrible and less trustworthy.

[2stout]

Yep, basically all posts deleted from those that disagreed with him, even those that were respectful.  Pure, unadulterated cancel culture with ulterior motives.  In essence that thread is now an echo chamber.

[Kazkaz27]

Honestly, fair game. Everyone who commented on his post did so knowing it was self moderated. I dont think he cares to appease those that are mad about it or seemingly against everything he says. I also think there are agendas to each person. For example I'm sure this thread will become all against Howard vs his thread.

The BS, going to be stated here is that his actions are “untrustworthy”. What's the point in that? Like we all know all posts are achieved. Him deleting makes zero difference. Creating this thread is more so to continue to bash Howard in all reality. Cancel culture is not Howard's thing nor is it a thing that can be accomplished here by deleting posts. Although, it can be accomplished with a MOB.

[2stout]

Honestly, fair game. Everyone who commented on his post did so knowing it was self moderated. I dont think he cares to appease those that are mad about it. I also think there are agendas to each person, it's not one sided.

I don't believe anyone is really mad or wants to be appeased.  It's really about rank hypocrisy and character flaws that were exposed, no need to move the goalposts to suggest otherwise.

[Kazkaz27]

Yes, I see a lot of hypocrisy here. It's not just Howard who at times shows flaws. Remind you he is new here compared to the decade, long members in power. He isn't a threat, he spends money and he gives. He hasn't sold anything or asked for loans, money or anything that could harm anyone here. More of a benefit than anything, regardless of some members not so nice opinions.

[nutildah]

Yes, I see a lot of hypocrisy here. It's not just Howard who at times shows flaws. Remind you he is new here compared to the decade, long members in power. He isn't a threat, he spends money and he gives. He hasn't sold anything or asked for loans, money or anything that could harm anyone here. More of a benefit than anything, regardless of some members not so nice opinions.

This doesn't have anything to do with the problem at hand, which is this guy continues to harass people for what seems to be a sinister motive. It was just petty vindictiveness at first but has now reached a whole new level of stupidity. If you want to start making things better, tell him to stop.

I once again warn people against doing business with howardsentell. Know that if you do so, or interact with them at all, you run the risk of being harassed both on forum and off.

[Kazkaz27]

This doesn't have anything to do with the problem at hand, which is this guy continues to harass people for what seems to be a sinister motive. It was just petty vindictiveness at first but has now reached a whole new level of stupidity. If you want to start making things better, tell him to stop.

I once again warn people against doing business with howardsentell. Know that if you do so, or interact with them at all, you run the risk of being harassed both on forum and off.

That would be great. Can you do the same and ask anonymousminer and DireWolfM14 to do the same? If we can sever those connections, agree to disagree together, avoid conflict or contact, give some grace/space, and leave each other alone, I’m sure we would have a more conducive community and relationships among each other.

Add Jolly to that list, according to his trust ratings he is a professional troll and it's obvious he is apart of the MOB against Howard.

[2stout]

This doesn't have anything to do with the problem at hand, which is this guy continues to harass people for what seems to be a sinister motive. It was just petty vindictiveness at first but has now reached a whole new level of stupidity. If you want to start making things better, tell him to stop.

I once again warn people against doing business with howardsentell. Know that if you do so, or interact with them at all, you run the risk of being harassed both on forum and off.

That would be great. Can you do the same and ask anonymousminer and DireWolfM14 to do the same? If we can sever those connections, agree to disagree together, avoid conflict or contact, give some grace/space, and leave each other alone, I’m sure we would have a more conducive community and relationships among each other.

You are deflecting and redirecting.  Please don't do that and stay on the topic at hand as it's giving attempting to insult ones intelligence.  Otherwise, even though free speech is welcomed here, it may be better for you to spew on the echo chamber thread as you will get more traction there as well as the support you are seeking.

[Kazkaz27]

You are deflecting and redirecting.  Please don't do that and stay on the topic at hand as it's giving attempting to insult ones intelligence.  Otherwise, even though free speech is welcomed here, it may be better for you to spew on the echo chamber thread as you will get more traction there as well as the support you are seeking.

2stout, with all due respect this thread is just a reverse echo chamber. Other side to the coin. Being in both chambers I think constitutes my openness to speak with opposing sides. I dont wish to make this go off topic. I want us to stop the slaughter between groups.

[nutildah]

2stout with all do respect this thread is just a reverse echo chamber. Other side to the coin. Being in both chambers I think constitutes my openness to speak with opposing sides. I dont wish to make this go off topic. I want us to stop the slaughter between groups.

With all due respect, stop with the bullshit. Nobody except Howard continues to contact people off-forum after they were told to stop. Nobody except Howard says shit like "I know where you live" and "see u soon." Nobody except Howard is constantly threatening to call law enforcement on their critics. Why you are defending this vile behavior is beyond me.

[Kazkaz27]

With all due respect, stop with the bullshit. Nobody except Howard continues to contact people off-forum after he was told to stop. Nobody except Howard says shit like "I know where you live" and "see u soon." Nobody except Howard is constantly threatening to call law enforcement on his critics. Why you are defending this vile behavior is beyond me.

You take that out of context, I'm really sure you are not fully aware. That was regarding a Reddit post which happened months ago. Something not even related to this forum. The only thing that tied it to this forum was that StackItUp was the Reddit user speaking with Howard. Funny thing was that Howard was contacted first. Howard joked around and said a couple things that can be taken different ways. Long story short, StackItUp made a reputation thread regarding Howard and the conversation they had off the forum. I know both Howard and StackItUp. They are now friends and their differences are solved, yet you still bring up that nonsense which was already resolved between the two effected parties months ago.

Howard feels bullied and attacked by you guys. Leave him alone and stop talking about him and he will more than likely go away.

I feel the same way about how you defend DireWolfM14’s behavior.

[nutildah]

You take that out of context, I'm really sure you are not fully aware.

I'm fully aware that Stack is also a psycho, and there's a good chance he said something that rubbed howard the wrong way. I would never deal with Stack either. That's no excuse for howard's behavior. Let's put that part aside: continuing to contact people after they've told you to stop is creepy, and threatening to call law enforcement because you don't like what someone has to say is just childish.

He also continues to purposefully misunderstand how the trust system and forum rules work in an effort to attack his critics...

There is no "whataboutism" you can produce about DW or AM that matches this level of Whack.

[Kazkaz27]

I'll do this for anyone who stops unjustly attacking members repuations and trolling, for every 6 month period that goes by I'll delete 1 red trust I gave to any user that stops attacking. My incentive. The reverse is that I will continue to apply red trusts to users who persist in such actions. I find that fair. The red trust I've given can be eliminated or changed but it depends solely on a users actions & behavior. The way that they can eliminate all or the last remaining red trust is simply refrain from the negative behavior, apologize, come to terms and agree to disagree. This offer does not account for red trust applied to users that have actually scammed members. No excuses for that.

[MoparMiningLLC]

howard constantly posts saying "stop contacting me Mopar" while sending me messages on multiple platforms. I have one on telegram where he said happy birthday (it was not even the month of my birthday) - I had also never communicated with him on telegram prior to that either.  He then also dm'd me here on the forums telling me to join his raffles - then posts complaining if I comment on any of his threads stating I am harassing him and he is going to report it to the police.


on his other thread (where he deleted the majority of my posts) he claimed i was threatening him - I was not. I simply stated that in some jurisdictions people are allowed to defend themselves if someone makes a verbal threat - if the one receiving the threat feels they may be at risk of harm.

[nutildah]

I'll do this for anyone who stops unjustly attacking members repuations and trolling, for every 6 month period that goes by I'll delete 1 red trust I gave to any user that stops attacking. My incentive. The reverse is that I will continue to apply red trusts to users who persist in such actions. I find that fair. The red trust I've given can be eliminated or changed but it depends solely on a users actions & behavior. The way that they can eliminate all or the last remaining red trust is simply refrain from the negative behavior, apologize, come to terms and agree to disagree. This offer does not account for red trust applied to users that have actually scammed members. No excuses for that.

I mean, you're not on DT so that's not really much of an offer. I'm not a Collectibles person (not physical anyway) so I don't have a lot more to say. But when I see Howard being an ass I'm gonna call him out on it. Same thing goes for you.

[Kazkaz27]

I mean, you're not on DT so that's not really much of an offer. I'm not a Collectibles person (not physical anyway) so I don't have a lot more to say. But when I see Howard being an ass I'm gonna call him out on it. Same thing goes for you.

Ditto, seems to go all the way around. Although, you won't do that to DireWolfM14 or those apart of the MOB when they are “being an ass”. Funny how members downplay the role of DT and their powers when I suggested they be held to HIGHER STANDARDS yet here you are implying my trust means little or nothing do to the fact I'm not DT. Seems contradictory and hypocritical.

[nutildah]

Funny how members downplay the role of DT and their powers when I suggested they be held to HIGHER STANDARDS yet here you are implying my trust means little or nothing do to the fact I'm not DT. Seems contradictory and hypocritical.

The two things don't have anything to do with each other. Once again, you're coming up with ridiculous whataboutisms to avoid having to acknowledge the actual root of both your problems and his.

[Kazkaz27]

The two things don't have anything to do with each other. Once again, you're coming up with ridiculous whataboutisms to avoid having to acknowledge the actual root of both your problems and his.

Well, happy to agree to disagree. I see a strong correlation.