Should beginners give up when facing challenges in the initial stage of the forum

[Zoomic]

Yes just like I'm facing right now, when many people join Bitcointalk for the first time, they usually face lot of challenges. They face challenges such as

• Challenge Trying to understand the forum rules.
• Challenge of how to avoid plagiarism
• Challenge of how to make a quality post
• And Challenge of learning how the ranking System work.

I honestly do not see a real challenge here.
Only one day is okay to understand the structure of the forum, it is simply just like any other online forums.
If you are a student or were a student, you should know that copying other people's work and passing them as yours is an intellectual theft and punishable. The forum didn't impose it. Although, Gen-z and social media generation wouldn't know it's a serious offence.
Reading only one pinned thread in matter will give you an ample knowledge about this.

Re: "SHOULD BEGINNERS GIVE UP WHILE FACING CHALLENGES IN THE INITIAL STAGE OF FORUM"

You don't need to capitalize your tittle, it is better in lower case, we can read it very well.

We were all beginners at one point in time, starting out with 0 posts and no knowledge about how the forum works. But you have to take your time and learn how things work.

Lack of patience is the problem of most newbies. Time is a teacher, stick around for a while and Op will understand everything.
I have been in the forum for a while, it was just yesterday that I discovered an interesting board "collectibles", just because of their recent reputation drama. Learning and discovering is unending.

[Fiasem20]

Now my question is
What do you think? Should beginners continue learning despite the difficulties,  or is it too challenging for most new comers?[/list]

Firstly,I would say as a newbie you have to readjust your perspective on how you think towards the forum,especially if it’s a wrong perspective.Most newbies think the forum is challenging to them because they’re finding it hard to rank up neglecting the fact that they need to improve the quality of their posts which would earn them the required merits to rank up.Every user on this forum started as a newbie,so if you could challenge yourself in putting more effort in your posts and adhering to the forum rules everything would be become unchallenging.Lastly,as a newbie to remain motivated on the forum,don’t feel attacked when corrected.

[Cricktor]

OP, why have you joined the forum and what is your objective here? Be honest.

If you see the forum as a knowledge treasure then you just need to hone your search skills and read, read, read. Nothing wrong to ask questions if you don't understand something, but try with some dedication to find answers to them yourself. It's more fulfilling to solve something yourself than to ask for spoon-feeding.

What is it that you seem to be in a hurry and chasing ghosts? Or do you chase something else? I could think of something, but I'd rather like to read it from yourself, instead of speculating.

None of your points are genuine challenges, frankly, unless you're mentally limited, have an impatience disorder or whatnot in similar directions which I don't think is the case at first glance.

So, what's the deal? Care to give us a small insight as to why you think you struggle with "forum life"?

I would suggest to carefully read (or print out so you don't loose sight) Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ and other sticky (pinned) topics for Newbies.

Other great topics to take time to ingest:
Newbies - Read before posting --- a lot of topics covered there, try to read and understand them all, the effort will pay out later
[Mega resources for newbies] Check here, find most of your need, before asking.
[Bitcointalk sticky threads] Newbies - read before starting.
Some important bitcointalk [GUIDE] for beginners.

[Hyphen(-)]

My little Motivation or Advise to Encourage new comers or beginners just like me, is That Giving up at early stage or giving up too early means missing the opportunity to learn about Bitcoin as well as cryptocurrency discussion and you will not have the knowledge that will be shared by Experienced members in the forum.

In my Opinion, New comers or beginners should not give up just because of the difficulties they are facing or challenges that comes with the initial stage instead,  beginners should see the challenges as part of the learning process.

In Addition to all I have said, to go far in the journey you need to be patient, you need to realise yourself.

Given up is never an option for beginners no matter how they criticize your post, we learn from the corrections and most of the criticism that will come from these forum members is to correct you and make you better, it is better to stay and learn than to give up and easily, we need to be very patient to achieve our goals in life and also in this forum.

As a beginner, you are not supposed to have started paying attention to critics, you just need to focus on yourself learn from others, and also learn from your mistakes, and you will grow fast and achieve your aim in the forum.

[Stepstowealth]

Now my question is
What do you think? Should beginners continue learning despite the difficulties,  or is it too challenging for most new comers?[/list]

If the forum is very challenging for new comers then we maybe would not have had old members in the forum because every old member in the forum started as a new member. Any new member in the forum who decides to quit because of how seemingly difficult the forum appears to be has made their choice and will reap the results of not having people who can encourage them to keep on investing or holding Bitcoin as its importance grows. Every new thing starts as difficult, and if you are new to the forum and have no experience being in a another forum asides this, you will struggle and that is normal.

[moneystery]

What do you think? Should beginners continue learning despite the difficulties,  or is it too challenging for most new comers?

At first it might be harder to familiarize yourself with this forum because everything might feel new, but remember that everyone is starting from zero here, no one can immediately understand the forum rules when they first come here, and other things about bitcoin, etc., of course they also have limited knowledge about all of that, even the legendary and reputable accounts also started from zero. But what makes them and I able to survive in this forum is the willingness to learn, understand, explore, and be willing to accept criticism-- it will definitely be harder at first, but over time if you do the things I mentioned above, you will definitely grow and start to understand the forum rules and start to understand everything better.

[Ziskinberg]

Challenges should never the reason to give up, but for us to be more motivated to succeed by pushing us beyond our comfort zone. This is one way of building our character in the forum, not as a weak and impulsive member, but a member with a strong drive and dedication to face every challenges that comes.

Now, imagine if everyone backs out and never face these challenges, I don't think our forum population will grow as much as we are seeing today.

Just learn one step at a time, you don't have to know everything. Just take your time, and just be patient and stay positive with all these challenges that the forum brings.

[nakamura12]

• Challenge Trying to understand the forum rules.
• Challenge of how to avoid plagiarism
• Challenge of how to make a quality post
• And Challenge of learning how the ranking System work.

Do you just call all these as challenges, to me I will only say that they are rules and guidelines that must be followed in order to ensure is much running of the forum, if you are being disciplined enough and have the intention of learning each day to improve yourself, then you shouldn't find all these as challenges, instead it way for you to adjust and adapt to the way the forum is being run.

I agree. It's not necessarily to call it challenges as it will naturally be followed when a person is really having the intention of doing it. Anyway, we know that old members also started from being a newbie until they become old members with knowledge learned throughout the years in crypto space. In the future, all these challenges will be a piece of cake when a person with intention of learning will be able to do it naturally especially making high quality posts.

[lovesmayfamilis]

You know everyone see life from different perspectives, what might be very simple for you may be the toughest thing someone has ever do in life so.

OP, I can wish you what you're talking about so pathetically: if you find being on the forum difficult, or following the rules on the forum, as something you experience as "the most difficult test in life," then let it be the biggest problem in your still very young life.

I wouldn't make things so complicated, because a forum is just a grain of everything that should be in your life, and of course, you shouldn't look at it as some kind of very complicated thing. You can study Bitcoin just by reading the forum if you are not ready to write anything. You don't have to participate in discussions, and no one will restrict your reading.
There is always guile here. Trials, difficulties, and other horror stories for beginners exist only when they come to the forum for profit, forgetting the real message of the forum, the study of Bitcoin and everything related to it.

Therefore, be simpler; do not idealize what is quite simple, but try to be natural, without exceeding or belittling your own personality.

[Dex_master25]

Now my question is
What do you think? Should beginners continue learning despite the difficulties,  or is it too challenging for most new comers?[/list]

You mentioned you are a student in your post, so if I should redirect this question to you, how do you continue to learn and be a better student at school despite the challenges and difficulties that you are faced with?
I doubt you have packed your bags and quit school. If you didn't do this, then why should it be difficult to try your best and put in the least effort into understanding how this forum works and get to contribute while learning the best from it?

[knowngunman]

You know everyone see life from different perspectives, what might be very simple for you may be the toughest thing someone has ever do in life so.

Yes you may be right if you said they are not a Challenge but them being a way for me to adjust and adapt to the way the forum is being run are what make them Difficult to me from the start.

But as I stated learning I'm improving.
But from my own perspective, I saw those things as a challenges as beginner.

This is not about having different perspectives, it's simple truth. What you mentioned in Op are not challenges, they are just rules that make things easier for you in the forum. If I should accept anything from that list as challenge, then it would be about making quality posts. Some people are naturally a bad writer while some find it difficult to express themselves in English probably because of their background. These sets of people normally find it hard to make a quality posts in the general board, hence, it becomes a challenge for them.

How the rank system work is just a guideline and it doesn't affect you whether you know it or not. You rank up automatically as soon as you reach the set requirements. That's a never challenge because you can choose to learn it or not. Plagiarism is not as well. It's a just a rule that stops you from taking credit for another person's work. What's hard in given a reference when you copy someone's else work? How do you find that challenging?

The forum is a learning environment and I can see how almost every replies on this thread are saying these are not challenges. Of course, every newbie face some challenges here one time or another but what you mentioned are not definitely a reasonable challenges for some one who's serious.

[Cookdata]

Firstly,I would say as a newbie you have to readjust your perspective on how you think towards the forum,especially if it’s a wrong perspective.Most newbies think the forum is challenging to them because they’re finding it hard to rank up neglecting the fact that they need to improve the quality of their posts which would earn them the required merits to rank up.Every user on this forum started as a newbie,so if you could challenge yourself in putting more effort in your posts and adhering to the forum rules everything would be become unchallenging.Lastly,as a newbie to remain motivated on the forum,don’t feel attacked when corrected.

I think this depend on who you are calling a newbie. Some people are newbie and they don't give a damn about hierarchy of the forum. There are some that just want to trade and make their money and goes on how to get the next client, some prefer to establish a reputation than the rank here, some newbies are alt of legendary but there is no ways to know until they reveal it to you. Some newbie just want to ask questions and go on with their life after getting a solution.

It's only a newbie that sees opportunities and values of the forum that cares about the hierarchy of the forum and when they don't understand the forum, they see it like they are been ignored and not given any attention. Now, I will like you to know that the way some alts disguised as newbies is the same way people act like newbie are been sideline because they want attention to be given to them. Not everything you see here should be taken seriously, just ignore some and move on.

[Sonia_123]

Challenges makes you to be strong, running away from challenges will only make you not to grow and face the reality of life , because this is where they cam get important information about Bitcoin and learn more about Bitcoin so that they will not mess up. 

The forum still remain the only place where genuine information and teaching about Bitcoin  is being  derived also answer on what you can do, also in bitcoin you don't run away from challenges, because they are always there and so one needs to face them instead of  ignoring rhem